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Reply #1920 posted 08/19/18 4:13pm

SkipperLove

Well if Kirk left the pills with Prince and he mixed them wrong, he would be dead too but as a result of kirk leaving them with him. Prince told Kirk they weren't working when he took what was prescribed in the car.

Roby78 said:

I was checking back now and I saw that there are descriptions of the prescribed pills in kirk and not those prescribed in P. The dr. S said that those prescribed for P were used for abstinence to opioids and that if mixed together they could kill him. So Kirk took away with him the pills prescribed by the doctor for the astineza? Did I get it right? I mean a doctor prescribes the pills that can save his life or at least help him and you take them away? And you say you were his friend and kept him? I believe that P took those counterfeits, there was nothing else around. How else could he fight the pain if the only thing there was to PP were counterfeit pills while the legal ones were not there? And another thing .... from the photos the legal containers in the name of P are photographed on a glass table that is located at the north entrance ... What 'the day after Kirk also reported to PP? No sorry ... I can not ... How can I not get angry?

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Reply #1921 posted 08/20/18 10:44am

leec1

I am posting below a question that I had asked that was answered by disch because I have seen in several threads posters have mentioned that various files were redacted. The impression I have gotten from the posters wondering why files were omitted is that LE is keeping secrets....

This appeared in Prince Death Investigation: Part 10, Post No. 58

The information is being kept from the public due to following Minnesota statues.

Here are Minnesota statutes 13.82 and 13.37 (referenced next to the redacted file names). The statutes basically say that some info can remain non-public if certain private info about a person would be revealed in it.

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Many of the file names reference statute 13.37 2(a), which says:

"The following government data is classified as nonpublic data with regard to data not on individuals, pursuant to section 13.02, subdivision 9, and as private data with regard to data on individuals, pursuant to section 13.02, subdivision 12: Security information; trade secret information; sealed absentee ballots prior to opening by an election judge; sealed bids, including the number of bids received, prior to the opening of the bids; parking space leasing data; and labor relations information, provided that specific labor relations information which relates to a specific labor organization is classified as protected nonpublic data pursuant to section

leec1 said:

Do we know why there are so many redacted files as mentioned in Part 8?

When I looked at the list, I see that there are statues listed next to each file.

The link to these files is below.

https://cbsminnesota.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/itemized-data-withheld.pdf

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Reply #1922 posted 08/20/18 10:48am

leec1

SkipperLove said:

Well if Kirk left the pills with Prince and he mixed them wrong, he would be dead too but as a result of kirk leaving them with him. Prince told Kirk they weren't working when he took what was prescribed in the car.

Roby78 said:

I was checking back now and I saw that there are descriptions of the prescribed pills in kirk and not those prescribed in P. The dr. S said that those prescribed for P were used for abstinence to opioids and that if mixed together they could kill him. So Kirk took away with him the pills prescribed by the doctor for the astineza? Did I get it right? I mean a doctor prescribes the pills that can save his life or at least help him and you take them away? And you say you were his friend and kept him? I believe that P took those counterfeits, there was nothing else around. How else could he fight the pain if the only thing there was to PP were counterfeit pills while the legal ones were not there? And another thing .... from the photos the legal containers in the name of P are photographed on a glass table that is located at the north entrance ... What 'the day after Kirk also reported to PP? No sorry ... I can not ... How can I not get angry?

SkipperLove I cosgin your comments.

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Reply #1923 posted 08/20/18 11:03am

leec1

I just read a Forbes article that is entitled: What Really May Have Killed Prince.

This article is about loneliness.

Below is the link to the article and 2 pertinent paragraphs. I am not sure yet if I agree with this assessment.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/josephcoughlin/2018/08/16/what-may-have-really-killed-prince-why-we-should-care/#31f5e8db55ae

"We know it hurts to be alone, but it’s also harmful to us. Social isolation has an effect on mortality comparable to that of smoking fifteen cigarettes per day, according to eye-opening research conducted by psychologist Julianne Holt Lunstad and many fellow researchers. Prolonged loneliness, too, can trigger a destructive biological response, a product of our species’ deep social tendencies. The impacts are perhaps best characterized by AARP -- "loneliness can be lethal" but that lethality is certainly not limited to older people."

"A tragic example of the universality of the problem is the death of Prince, a multimillionaire with millions of adoring fans. In 2016, the 57-year-old pop star died in his cavernous Paisley Park complex from an opioid overdose, to be discovered thirteen hours later by his paid staff. His dependence on painkillers, as is the case of many suffering Americans, seemed to come out of a deep, pervasive loneliness, which obsessed him. His worst fear, his friend Neal Karlen wrote, “was dying alone.”

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Reply #1924 posted 08/20/18 11:30am

CatB

leec1 said:

I just read a Forbes article that is entitled: What Really May Have Killed Prince.

This article is about loneliness.

Below is the link to the article and 2 pertinent paragraphs. I am not sure yet if I agree with this assessment.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/josephcoughlin/2018/08/16/what-may-have-really-killed-prince-why-we-should-care/#31f5e8db55ae

"We know it hurts to be alone, but it’s also harmful to us. Social isolation has an effect on mortality comparable to that of smoking fifteen cigarettes per day, according to eye-opening research conducted by psychologist Julianne Holt Lunstad and many fellow researchers. Prolonged loneliness, too, can trigger a destructive biological response, a product of our species’ deep social tendencies. The impacts are perhaps best characterized by AARP -- "loneliness can be lethal" but that lethality is certainly not limited to older people."

"A tragic example of the universality of the problem is the death of Prince, a multimillionaire with millions of adoring fans. In 2016, the 57-year-old pop star died in his cavernous Paisley Park complex from an opioid overdose, to be discovered thirteen hours later by his paid staff. His dependence on painkillers, as is the case of many suffering Americans, seemed to come out of a deep, pervasive loneliness, which obsessed him. His worst fear, his friend Neal Karlen wrote, “was dying alone.”



http://prince.org/msg/7/456105



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Reply #1925 posted 08/20/18 12:08pm

leec1

CatB said:

leec1 said:

I just read a Forbes article that is entitled: What Really May Have Killed Prince.

This article is about loneliness.

Below is the link to the article and 2 pertinent paragraphs. I am not sure yet if I agree with this assessment.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/josephcoughlin/2018/08/16/what-may-have-really-killed-prince-why-we-should-care/#31f5e8db55ae

"We know it hurts to be alone, but it’s also harmful to us. Social isolation has an effect on mortality comparable to that of smoking fifteen cigarettes per day, according to eye-opening research conducted by psychologist Julianne Holt Lunstad and many fellow researchers. Prolonged loneliness, too, can trigger a destructive biological response, a product of our species’ deep social tendencies. The impacts are perhaps best characterized by AARP -- "loneliness can be lethal" but that lethality is certainly not limited to older people."

"A tragic example of the universality of the problem is the death of Prince, a multimillionaire with millions of adoring fans. In 2016, the 57-year-old pop star died in his cavernous Paisley Park complex from an opioid overdose, to be discovered thirteen hours later by his paid staff. His dependence on painkillers, as is the case of many suffering Americans, seemed to come out of a deep, pervasive loneliness, which obsessed him. His worst fear, his friend Neal Karlen wrote, “was dying alone.”



http://prince.org/msg/7/456105



Sorry- I didn't realize this was already posted.

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Reply #1926 posted 08/20/18 12:30pm

Roby78

SkipperLove ha detto:

Beh, se Kirk avesse lasciato le pillole con Prince e le avesse mescolate male, sarebbe morto anche lui, ma a causa del kirk che li aveva lasciati con lui. Il principe disse a Kirk che non stavano lavorando quando prese quello che era stato prescritto in macchina.

Roby78 ha detto:

Stavo tornando indietro e ho visto che ci sono descrizioni delle pillole prescritte nel kirk e non quelle prescritte in P. Il dr. S disse che quelle prescritte per P erano usate per l'astinenza agli oppioidi e che se mescolate insieme potevano ucciderlo. Quindi Kirk portò via con sé le pillole prescritte dal medico per l'astineza? Ho capito bene? Intendo un medico che prescrive le pillole che possono salvargli la vita o almeno aiutarlo e tu le porti via? E tu dici che sei suo amico e lo hai tenuto? Credo che P abbia preso quelle contraffazioni, non c'era nient'altro in giro. In quale altro modo avrebbe potuto combattere il dolore se l'unica cosa che c'era in PP fossero pillole contraffatte mentre quelle legali non c'erano? E un'altra cosa .... dalle foto i contenitori legali in nome di P sono fotografati su un tavolo di vetro che si trova all'ingresso nord ... E 'il giorno dopo che anche Kirk ha riferito di PP? No scusa ... Non posso ... Come posso non arrabbiarmi?

I'm sorry but I do not agree. Dr.S explained to him how to take them so why should he mix them?On the fact that he said they were not working ... who tells us that kirk tells the truth?The dr. That morning he said that during the visit he gave P something to help him with the symptoms of the overdose he was having at the time, so if P actually said that sentence could also be related to what the doctor he had given him during the visit.But this does not answer why Kirk reported those pills to PP on 04/21.Then there's another thing that dr.S said that morning. He stated that after P left his study Phaedra called him asking for the visit and he told him how it was, then Phaedra asked him what he had prescribed to be able to report to the doctor that morning he would go to PP and he he told him to call him but then gave him the names of the medicines.So Phaedra knew what had happened in the study and what kind of test was doing P. I wonder, what if Phaedra then called P and managed to convince him somehow that he did not need those pills?Dr.S. did not violate P's privasy by reporting what had happened to Phaedra?

And anyway, the fact remains that P had no other pills to fight the pain of the illegal ones inside PP that night so he had no choice but to take those.

[Edited 8/20/18 12:39pm]

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Reply #1927 posted 08/20/18 12:53pm

Roby78

leec1 ha detto:

Sto postando sotto una domanda che ho chiesto a cui è stata data una risposta disch perché ho visto in diversi thread che i posters hanno menzionato che vari file sono stati redatti. L'impressione che ho ottenuto dai manifesti che mi chiedevo perché i file sono stati omessi è che LE sta mantenendo segreti ...

Questo è apparso in Prince Death Investigation: Part 10, Post No. 58

L'informazione viene mantenuta dal pubblico a causa delle seguenti statue del Minnesota.

Qui ci sono gli statuti del Minnesota 13.82 e 13.37 (a cui si fa riferimento accanto ai nomi dei file redatti). Gli statuti in pratica dicono che alcune informazioni possono rimanere non pubbliche se alcune informazioni private su una persona vengano rivelate in essa.

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Molti nomi di file fanno riferimento allo statuto 13.37 2 (a), che dice:

"I seguenti dati governativi sono classificati come dati non pubblici per quanto riguarda i dati non su individui, ai sensi della sezione 13.02, sottodivisione 9 , e come dati privati ​​relativi ai dati sui singoli, ai sensi della sezione 13.02, sottodivisione 12 : Informazioni sulla sicurezza; informazioni, voti sigillati assenti prima dell'apertura da parte di un giudice elettorale, offerte sigillate, compreso il numero di offerte ricevute, prima dell'apertura delle offerte, dati sul parcheggio e dati sulle relazioni sindacali, a condizione che le informazioni specifiche relative alle relazioni sindacali riguardino una specifica organizzazione del lavoro è classificata come dati protetti non pubblici ai sensi della sezione

leec1 ha detto:

Sappiamo perché ci sono così tanti file redatti come menzionato nella Parte 8?

Quando ho guardato la lista, vedo che ci sono statue elencate accanto a ciascun file.

Il link a questi file è sotto.

https://cbsminnesota.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/itemized-data-withheld.pdf

What? are you saying that about 13.37, P's death had to do with something governmental or that maybe it was part of a union?Oh my God I could expect this and more ^^The fact remains that I do not see how the 13.37 can have a connection with P

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Reply #1928 posted 08/20/18 1:11pm

leec1

Roby78 said:

leec1 ha detto:

Sto postando sotto una domanda che ho chiesto a cui è stata data una risposta disch perché ho visto in diversi thread che i posters hanno menzionato che vari file sono stati redatti. L'impressione che ho ottenuto dai manifesti che mi chiedevo perché i file sono stati omessi è che LE sta mantenendo segreti ...

Questo è apparso in Prince Death Investigation: Part 10, Post No. 58

L'informazione viene mantenuta dal pubblico a causa delle seguenti statue del Minnesota.

Qui ci sono gli statuti del Minnesota 13.82 e 13.37 (a cui si fa riferimento accanto ai nomi dei file redatti). Gli statuti in pratica dicono che alcune informazioni possono rimanere non pubbliche se alcune informazioni private su una persona vengano rivelate in essa.

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Molti nomi di file fanno riferimento allo statuto 13.37 2 (a), che dice:

"I seguenti dati governativi sono classificati come dati non pubblici per quanto riguarda i dati non su individui, ai sensi della sezione 13.02, sottodivisione 9 , e come dati privati ​​relativi ai dati sui singoli, ai sensi della sezione 13.02, sottodivisione 12 : Informazioni sulla sicurezza; informazioni, voti sigillati assenti prima dell'apertura da parte di un giudice elettorale, offerte sigillate, compreso il numero di offerte ricevute, prima dell'apertura delle offerte, dati sul parcheggio e dati sulle relazioni sindacali, a condizione che le informazioni specifiche relative alle relazioni sindacali riguardino una specifica organizzazione del lavoro è classificata come dati protetti non pubblici ai sensi della sezione

What? are you saying that about 13.37, P's death had to do with something governmental or that maybe it was part of a union?Oh my God I could expect this and more ^^The fact remains that I do not see how the 13.37 can have a connection with P

No, what you have stated about 13.37 is just one part of the statue.

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Reply #1929 posted 08/21/18 8:52am

Angele

Is there a link to Kirk Johnson's statement? I just read Judith Hills and I'd like to read Kirk's statement.

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Reply #1930 posted 08/21/18 10:37am

PennyPurple

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Angele said:

Is there a link to Kirk Johnson's statement? I just read Judith Hills and I'd like to read Kirk's statement.

It's all in the court documents. The links are thru out Parts 1 - 12 on the 12 threads.

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Reply #1931 posted 08/22/18 4:02am

1Sasha

I get the impression that, for most people who are on prince.org, the how and the why of his passing don't matter anymore. The Revolution still draws crowds, but it feels like he is fading away. Maybe it's just me, but I would still like to know what happened. Maybe we'll never know.

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Reply #1932 posted 08/22/18 4:16am

Lovejunky

1Sasha said:

I get the impression that, for most people who are on prince.org, the how and the why of his passing don't matter anymore. The Revolution still draws crowds, but it feels like he is fading away. Maybe it's just me, but I would still like to know what happened. Maybe we'll never know.

We wont unless there is a Death Bed Confession

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Reply #1933 posted 08/22/18 4:33am

rogifan

1Sasha said:

I get the impression that, for most people who are on prince.org, the how and the why of his passing don't matter anymore. The Revolution still draws crowds, but it feels like he is fading away. Maybe it's just me, but I would still like to know what happened. Maybe we'll never know.


The only one that can tell you that is no longer here. He’s not fading away. Nobody is forgetting him. No longer dwelling on his passing and what led up to it is a healthy thing IMO. Focus on the man and his music, not his death.
Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #1934 posted 08/22/18 4:38am

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Well rumors are swirling around that he committed suicide and the suicide letters were on his computer and those were some of the documents that were released. Then there is also another rumor that a fan stopped by to see Tyka and Tyka spilled the beans to this person and let it slip that it was suicide.


Personally I don't think any of the above is true, but that's what is being talked about.

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Reply #1935 posted 08/22/18 5:06am

CatB

PennyPurple said:

Well rumors are swirling around that he committed suicide and the suicide letters were on his computer and those were some of the documents that were released. Then there is also another rumor that a fan stopped by to see Tyka and Tyka spilled the beans to this person and let it slip that it was suicide.


Personally I don't think any of the above is true, but that's what is being talked about.



Didn't Tyka say that Prince knew he was terminal (with I don't know what) and "knew for 2 years that he was gonna die"? I know that doesn't exclude the possibility of suicide but I take everything she says with a grain of salt. Friends of mine who visited PP or even applied for jobs and who have met her said that she charges fans 200 - 300 dollars for photos with her. That tells me a lot about her credibility and integrity. Like pupa1 said, Tyka wasn't around and not important in his world.


"Time is space spent with U"
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Reply #1936 posted 08/22/18 5:25am

PennyPurple

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CatB said:

PennyPurple said:

Well rumors are swirling around that he committed suicide and the suicide letters were on his computer and those were some of the documents that were released. Then there is also another rumor that a fan stopped by to see Tyka and Tyka spilled the beans to this person and let it slip that it was suicide.


Personally I don't think any of the above is true, but that's what is being talked about.



Didn't Tyka say that Prince knew he was terminal (with I don't know what) and "knew for 2 years that he was gonna die"? I know that doesn't exclude the possibility of suicide but I take everything she says with a grain of salt. Friends of mine who visited PP or even applied for jobs and who have met her said that she charges fans 200 - 300 dollars for photos with her. That tells me a lot about her credibility and integrity. Like pupa1 said, Tyka wasn't around and not important in his world.


Yeah, I don't put a lot of stock in it. If that were they case then why are they suing Walgreens and the hospital?

Charging money to take a pic with her? eek

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Reply #1937 posted 08/22/18 5:46am

CatB

PennyPurple said:



CatB said:




PennyPurple said:


Well rumors are swirling around that he committed suicide and the suicide letters were on his computer and those were some of the documents that were released. Then there is also another rumor that a fan stopped by to see Tyka and Tyka spilled the beans to this person and let it slip that it was suicide.



Personally I don't think any of the above is true, but that's what is being talked about.





Didn't Tyka say that Prince knew he was terminal (with I don't know what) and "knew for 2 years that he was gonna die"? I know that doesn't exclude the possibility of suicide but I take everything she says with a grain of salt. Friends of mine who visited PP or even applied for jobs and who have met her said that she charges fans 200 - 300 dollars for photos with her. That tells me a lot about her credibility and integrity. Like pupa1 said, Tyka wasn't around and not important in his world.




Yeah, I don't put a lot of stock in it. If that were they case then why are they suing Walgreens and the hospital?


Charging money to take a pic with her? eek



That's what many have told me 2 years ago. Some of them get really worked up when someone only mentions her name. I've never asked for details what happened exactly that they're all so angry but I was shocked when they told me about her charging people for photos with her.
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Reply #1938 posted 08/22/18 6:19am

Krystalkisses

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I just saw this on Apollonia's Instagram. It is interesting how both she and Manuela have eluded to secrets being kept surrounding all of this.

https://www.instagram.com...xkv1edbwgy
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Reply #1939 posted 08/22/18 6:46am

PennyPurple

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Krystalkisses said:

I just saw this on Apollonia's Instagram. It is interesting how both she and Manuela have eluded to secrets being kept surrounding all of this. https://www.instagram.com...xkv1edbwgy

Yeah well, she's been saying this for 2 years, but has still stayed silent. Again, just fueling the flames to keep the fans in emotional turmoil.

I hold no stock in anything she has to say. She's just as bad as the rest of them especially if she knows what happened and has stayed silent.

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Reply #1940 posted 08/22/18 7:00am

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PennyPurple said:



Krystalkisses said:


I just saw this on Apollonia's Instagram. It is interesting how both she and Manuela have eluded to secrets being kept surrounding all of this. https://www.instagram.com...xkv1edbwgy

Yeah well, she's been saying this for 2 years, but has still stayed silent. Again, just fueling the flames to keep the fans in emotional turmoil.


I hold no stock in anything she has to say. She's just as bad as the rest of them especially if she knows what happened and has stayed silent.



All the cryptic messages are frustrating for sure , however scrolling down the comments she says flat out Prince was murdered. Honestly, I do find that hard to believe, I can't imagine anyone wanting Prince dead. If she really believes this she needs to go to the police or should have when the investigation was going on, that is a pretty serious statement.
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Reply #1941 posted 08/22/18 7:11am

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PennyPurple said:

Krystalkisses said:

I just saw this on Apollonia's Instagram. It is interesting how both she and Manuela have eluded to secrets being kept surrounding all of this. https://www.instagram.com...xkv1edbwgy

Yeah well, she's been saying this for 2 years, but has still stayed silent. Again, just fueling the flames to keep the fans in emotional turmoil.

I hold no stock in anything she has to say. She's just as bad as the rest of them especially if she knows what happened and has stayed silent.

Exactly. This is like Tyka when she said she knows the truth but she's gonna write about in her book. And I remember LR giving me shit for saying that the only thing she's interested in is money. If you know what happened, JUST SAY IT. And it is so funny, Apples calls people vultures and what is she doing when she's writing a book? We all know this is going to be about her and him ( I mean, she can write a book it's her story with him, I don't mind them writing books, really, I don't give a shit) but don't call others out and then do the same. lol

Apples, you are a vulture too, you keep saying that stuff for 2 years now, but you never said what happened. And didn't she also say the truth will come out in her book as well? neutral .

Tyka had the chance to say it all in that Radio Interview, it was live, there was no one who could've twisted her words, but she said it's going to be in her book. She said that again. And still some people believed her crap, I may not be the smartest person on earth but even I know a money grabber when I see one. And Tyka is one.

Seriously the people who know anything should just come out and tell it. Do you know it was suicide? Then go ahead and say it. Do you know who bought them pills for him and can you actually back it up? Then just say it! Don't half ass it and then cash in. That's disgusting and gives us the impression that they never loved Prince.

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Reply #1942 posted 08/22/18 12:07pm

PennyPurple

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ThatWhiteDude said:

PennyPurple said:

Yeah well, she's been saying this for 2 years, but has still stayed silent. Again, just fueling the flames to keep the fans in emotional turmoil.

I hold no stock in anything she has to say. She's just as bad as the rest of them especially if she knows what happened and has stayed silent.

Exactly. This is like Tyka when she said she knows the truth but she's gonna write about in her book. And I remember LR giving me shit for saying that the only thing she's interested in is money. If you know what happened, JUST SAY IT. And it is so funny, Apples calls people vultures and what is she doing when she's writing a book? We all know this is going to be about her and him ( I mean, she can write a book it's her story with him, I don't mind them writing books, really, I don't give a shit) but don't call others out and then do the same. lol

Apples, you are a vulture too, you keep saying that stuff for 2 years now, but you never said what happened. And didn't she also say the truth will come out in her book as well? neutral .

Tyka had the chance to say it all in that Radio Interview, it was live, there was no one who could've twisted her words, but she said it's going to be in her book. She said that again. And still some people believed her crap, I may not be the smartest person on earth but even I know a money grabber when I see one. And Tyka is one.

Seriously the people who know anything should just come out and tell it. Do you know it was suicide? Then go ahead and say it. Do you know who bought them pills for him and can you actually back it up? Then just say it! Don't half ass it and then cash in. That's disgusting and gives us the impression that they never loved Prince.

I agree with you. It's all about the $$

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Reply #1943 posted 08/22/18 12:36pm

Roby78

ThatWhiteDude said:

PennyPurple said:

Yeah well, she's been saying this for 2 years, but has still stayed silent. Again, just fueling the flames to keep the fans in emotional turmoil.

I hold no stock in anything she has to say. She's just as bad as the rest of them especially if she knows what happened and has stayed silent.

Exactly. This is like Tyka when she said she knows the truth but she's gonna write about in her book. And I remember LR giving me shit for saying that the only thing she's interested in is money. If you know what happened, JUST SAY IT. And it is so funny, Apples calls people vultures and what is she doing when she's writing a book? We all know this is going to be about her and him ( I mean, she can write a book it's her story with him, I don't mind them writing books, really, I don't give a shit) but don't call others out and then do the same. lol

Apples, you are a vulture too, you keep saying that stuff for 2 years now, but you never said what happened. And didn't she also say the truth will come out in her book as well? neutral .

Tyka had the chance to say it all in that Radio Interview, it was live, there was no one who could've twisted her words, but she said it's going to be in her book. She said that again. And still some people believed her crap, I may not be the smartest person on earth but even I know a money grabber when I see one. And Tyka is one.

Seriously the people who know anything should just come out and tell it. Do you know it was suicide? Then go ahead and say it. Do you know who bought them pills for him and can you actually back it up? Then just say it! Don't half ass it and then cash in. That's disgusting and gives us the impression that they never loved Prince.

thumbs up!

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Reply #1944 posted 08/22/18 4:05pm

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PennyPurple said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

Exactly. This is like Tyka when she said she knows the truth but she's gonna write about in her book. And I remember LR giving me shit for saying that the only thing she's interested in is money. If you know what happened, JUST SAY IT. And it is so funny, Apples calls people vultures and what is she doing when she's writing a book? We all know this is going to be about her and him ( I mean, she can write a book it's her story with him, I don't mind them writing books, really, I don't give a shit) but don't call others out and then do the same. lol

Apples, you are a vulture too, you keep saying that stuff for 2 years now, but you never said what happened. And didn't she also say the truth will come out in her book as well? neutral .

Tyka had the chance to say it all in that Radio Interview, it was live, there was no one who could've twisted her words, but she said it's going to be in her book. She said that again. And still some people believed her crap, I may not be the smartest person on earth but even I know a money grabber when I see one. And Tyka is one.

Seriously the people who know anything should just come out and tell it. Do you know it was suicide? Then go ahead and say it. Do you know who bought them pills for him and can you actually back it up? Then just say it! Don't half ass it and then cash in. That's disgusting and gives us the impression that they never loved Prince.

I agree with you. It's all about the $$

Great post, White Dude, well said...

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Reply #1945 posted 08/22/18 5:31pm

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PennyPurple said:

I agree with you. It's all about the $$

Great post, White Dude, well said...

I don't get why one person "in the know" does not have the courage to come forward. Can the Estate sue someone for talking? Can an estate sue?

I think the "party-line" is that they are protecting his privacy and legacy. I think it is tied to money.

They may feel that a suicide will affect P's popularity and therefore diminish his bankability, (and their $$)

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Reply #1946 posted 08/22/18 6:31pm

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peggyon said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Great post, White Dude, well said...

I don't get why one person "in the know" does not have the courage to come forward. Can the Estate sue someone for talking? Can an estate sue?

I think the "party-line" is that they are protecting his privacy and legacy. I think it is tied to money.

They may feel that a suicide will affect P's popularity and therefore diminish his bankability, (and their $$)

None of those people who claim to be in the 'inner circle' 'in the know' or 'in his bed' know ANY more than what can be discerned from reading this thread in its entirety. Every angle and possibility,including some hysterically extreme cray ''theories' have been aired and what we are left with is that this much-loved musical genius struggled with addiction, is dead of an overdose; pushed loving people away from him his whole life, foolishly left no will, sadly left no mate or children, and the joy and depth of feeling his music has and will generate will outlast each and every one of us...thank God.

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Reply #1947 posted 08/22/18 6:47pm

Menes

Bodhitheblackdog said:

peggyon said:

I don't get why one person "in the know" does not have the courage to come forward. Can the Estate sue someone for talking? Can an estate sue?

I think the "party-line" is that they are protecting his privacy and legacy. I think it is tied to money.

They may feel that a suicide will affect P's popularity and therefore diminish his bankability, (and their $$)

None of those people who claim to be in the 'inner circle' 'in the know' or 'in his bed' know ANY more than what can be discerned from reading this thread in its entirety. Every angle and possibility,including some hysterically extreme cray ''theories' have been aired and what we are left with is that this much-loved musical genius struggled with addiction, is dead of an overdose; pushed loving people away from him his whole life, foolishly left no will, sadly left no mate or children, and the joy and depth of feeling his music has and will generate will outlast each and every one of us...thank God.

Hiya love,

On the elouqent points made...

let's review why anyone connected to Prince would want him dead.

Tyka - This is not an option. She talks too much, was filled with envy and hate , never really had her moment( because Prince had all of it at such a young age) and is a recovering addict.

Prince knew all of this about her. He would never trust her with such a deeply held secret. She would be calling in for checks every single day if she had that information about him when he was alive.

Kirk- Though entirely connected to everything wrong about the time line, This was still his gravy train. Having him overdose in order to gain anything was/is fruitless. However , there is one corn in this bushel , which may boil down to control. It's easier to control a person like Prince if you provide the things he wants, regardless of how bad it may have turned out. This is a very strong possibility to me, (albeit not intentional). He knew the streets.

Meron- Not an option. She probably passed an ESL test just a few years ago. She's so not in this picture.

Judith. This was merely "company" A lady of the curtain providing services beyond "singing". She has no reason to revoke such "benefits".

To me, Prince went way outside of his own comfort zone to get everything just the way he wanted. Meaning, trusting those who he really didn't know as well as he did the others above.

My two centavos.

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Reply #1948 posted 08/22/18 7:04pm

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Menes said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

None of those people who claim to be in the 'inner circle' 'in the know' or 'in his bed' know ANY more than what can be discerned from reading this thread in its entirety. Every angle and possibility,including some hysterically extreme cray ''theories' have been aired and what we are left with is that this much-loved musical genius struggled with addiction, is dead of an overdose; pushed loving people away from him his whole life, foolishly left no will, sadly left no mate or children, and the joy and depth of feeling his music has and will generate will outlast each and every one of us...thank God.

Hiya love,

On the elouqent points made...

let's review why anyone connected to Prince would want him dead.

Tyka - This is not an option. She talks too much, was filled with envy and hate , never really had her moment( because Prince had all of it at such a young age) and is a recovering addict.

Prince knew all of this about her. He would never trust her with such a deeply held secret. She would be calling in for checks every single day if she had that information about him when he was alive.

Kirk- Though entirely connected to everything wrong about the time line, This was still his gravy train. Having him overdose in order to gain anything was/is fruitless. However , there is one corn in this bushel , which may boil down to control. It's easier to control a person like Prince if you provide the things he wants, regardless of how bad it may have turned out. This is a very strong possibility to me, (albeit not intentional). He knew the streets.

Meron- Not an option. She probably passed an ESL test just a few years ago. She's so not in this picture.

Judith. This was merely "company" A lady of the curtain providing services beyond "singing". She has no reason to revoke such "benefits".

To me, Prince went way outside of his own comfort zone to get everything just the way he wanted. Meaning, trusting those who he really didn't know as well as he did the others above.

My two centavos.

Good Points Menes & Welcome Back!


Why do you think he went way out of his comfort zone, this time? After all these years, why this time?

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Reply #1949 posted 08/22/18 7:35pm

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PennyPurple said:

Well rumors are swirling around that he committed suicide and the suicide letters were on his computer and those were some of the documents that were released. Then there is also another rumor that a fan stopped by to see Tyka and Tyka spilled the beans to this person and let it slip that it was suicide.



Personally I don't think any of the above is true, but that's what is being talked about.


Someone on the other site who heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend. She’s feeling something out so she can swoop in and go rat on a FB Page is what I hear. Apparently done that before.
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