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Reply #120 posted 07/05/10 1:18pm

PicklesMcMilla
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Alexandernvrmind said:

Moonbeam said:

I was thinking the same thing! Bowie's looks a lot better, though. boxed

yep... it does

i gonna have to disagree prince's looks alot better to me

i dig the artist use of vibrant colors

those bugs eyes creep me out neutral lol

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Reply #121 posted 07/05/10 1:26pm

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CerpinTaxt said:

Looking at the difference between views and posts in this thread, I start to wonder if I'm not the only one just checking to see if it's leaked...

lurking

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Reply #122 posted 07/05/10 1:58pm

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dannyd5050 said:

CerpinTaxt said:

Looking at the difference between views and posts in this thread, I start to wonder if I'm not the only one just checking to see if it's leaked...

lurking

If it leaks, you won't have to check this thread, there'll be a million others saying so, or about the various tracks. lol

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Reply #123 posted 07/05/10 4:45pm

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SPOOKYGAS said:

Why would he come here again? Have U heard the shite that is considered worthy over here?

He is not Masculine enough for the people in control, they see him as a bit of a weirdo who last had an album in 91 or something.

Why would he come here? He only sells out shows in an instant to ravenous fans that are desperate to see him.

Not masculine enough? Are you living in Australia circa 1976? ...or are you in Adelaide? wink The 2010 version of Prince is about as threatening as Justin Bieber.

IMO, the main problem with Australian radio is the stagnant commercial American rubbish that it's filled with.

it ecapsulates a sad and very tragic event ya fukin rockat ahe an individual

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Reply #124 posted 07/05/10 9:01pm

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I havent actually been keeping up with this album... and i'm unfamiliar with the tracklisting.. so i'm wondering if this album and all of its content will be completely new for everyone? or has any songs been circulating.. live or whatever....?

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Reply #125 posted 07/06/10 12:12am

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Sdldawn said:

I havent actually been keeping up with this album... and i'm unfamiliar with the tracklisting.. so i'm wondering if this album and all of its content will be completely new for everyone? or has any songs been circulating.. live or whatever....?

Like most of his stuff lately, this is fresh from the studio and only about 2-3 songs will be played live because even Prince knows he ain't pullin' shit off anymore.

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Reply #126 posted 07/06/10 1:51am

TyphoonTip

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TyphoonTip said:

Why would he come here? He only sells out shows in an instant to ravenous fans that are desperate to see him.

Not masculine enough? Are you living in Australia circa 1976? ...or are you in Adelaide? wink The 2010 version of Prince is about as threatening as Justin Bieber.

IMO, the main problem with Australian radio is the stagnant commercial American rubbish that it's filled with.

it ecapsulates a sad and very tragic event ya fukin rockat ahe an individual

What? eek

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Reply #127 posted 07/06/10 3:06am

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cool

[Edited 7/6/10 3:07am]

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Reply #128 posted 07/06/10 5:52am

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Spinlight said:



Sdldawn said:


I havent actually been keeping up with this album... and i'm unfamiliar with the tracklisting.. so i'm wondering if this album and all of its content will be completely new for everyone? or has any songs been circulating.. live or whatever....?




Like most of his stuff lately, this is fresh from the studio and only about 2-3 songs will be played live because even Prince knows he ain't pullin' shit off anymore.


...so bedcause he never played Soft & Wet Elephants and Flowers Joy and Repitition or Fell U Up live does that mean that those were garbage too?
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Reply #129 posted 07/06/10 5:52am

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Sdldawn said:

I havent actually been keeping up with this album... and i'm unfamiliar with the tracklisting.. so i'm wondering if this album and all of its content will be completely new for everyone? or has any songs been circulating.. live or whatever....?

So far there have only been a few snippets in adverts. Other than that, it's all new.

RIP sad
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Reply #130 posted 07/06/10 6:02am

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only 3 more days and still no leak? how does he manage to keep such a tight lid on it?

incredible. i hate it, but i have to applaud him for it too lol

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #131 posted 07/06/10 6:28am

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IstenSzek said:

only 3 more days and still no leak? how does he manage to keep such a tight lid on it?

incredible. i hate it, but i have to applaud him for it too lol

There will B no leak cause there will B no album!

lol

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Reply #132 posted 07/06/10 6:44am

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love2thenines2003 said:

IstenSzek said:

only 3 more days and still no leak? how does he manage to keep such a tight lid on it?

incredible. i hate it, but i have to applaud him for it too lol

There will B no leak cause there will B no album!

lol

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Reply #133 posted 07/06/10 8:02am

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I still can't believe there isn't even an announcement for a US release date. Either we aren't getting it (is he made at the US?) or we'll have to pay for it (which fans would be fine with) but MONTHS later. Not happy, Prince. disbelief

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Reply #134 posted 07/06/10 8:14am

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Who's loving the snippets of "Compassion," "Beginning Endlessly," and "Lavaux," from the Mirror website?!

"Compassion" is definitely going for that "Controversy" album sound. I hear slight traces of "Sexuality," "Ronnie Talk 2 Russia," and maybe "Jack U Off," but with a stronger 80s pop kind of melody...i.e. "Cosmic Day."

Featured lyrics:

"The zero point approaches and the fields around u drop. Thoughts become reality and it feels like time has stopped. When all that's on the radio is electromagnetic pop. Fastidio teeth gnash (ha...just writing what it sounds like. anyone have an idea?). Compassion..."

This was Jake's review of "Compassion":

"Same vein as Dance 4 Me, has the same type of keyboard sounds as Hot Summer, the ladies sound good - the "you need compassion, compassion" part of Cause and Effect mirrors the chorus of this song as far as delivery/vocal effects"

Pretty much wrong on all counts. This is nothing like "Dance 4 Me," not the same keys as "Hot Summer," and the chorus isn't "U need compassion," from what I can hear.

"Beginning Endlessly" has a unique sort of tempo and is built on heavy synths and synth-bass. Sounds like it has potential.

Featured lyrics:

"Never mind the bird feed, honey. Just tell me your name. U won't have it long if I get my way in this game. My reputation precedes me. Call it 'claim 2 fame'...."

Jakes review of "Beginning Endlessly":

"Lolita part 2, fat synths, cool dual vocals in each headphone."

His description is maybe slightly less completely wrong here. Both songs are synth-heavy, and both contain lyrics of Prince spitting his game at some girl. Judging from the sample, that's where the comparisons end. I don't hear any "dual vocals in each headphone."

"Lavaux" is my favorite of the snippets. I like the chord progressions and the feel-good kind of vibe. Production-wise, it definitely fits in with "Beginning Endlessly." It's heavy on synths and ultra-tight rhythm guitar. However, the synths sound nothing like "1999," as the German reviewer pointed out. They do sound like "Beginning Endlessly" synths tho. The talk of vineyards and gardens and mountains kind of take me back to Prince's mid-late 80s lyrics.

Featured lyrics:

"Take me 2 the vineyards of Lavaux. I wanna see the mountains...where the gardens grow. Life back home depresses me. Just another form of slavery. The cost of freedom is anything but free. I don't care if they're all covered with snow. I don't care if the road is narrow. If it is...I know (?? Not sure what this part is) It was always meant 2 b. Still in love I must believe, whatever path I choose will lead me home...lead me home. Lavaux. Take me 2 the streets of Portugal..."

Jake's review of "Lavaux":

"Synth sounds just like 1999, lyrics are cheesy and bad, the tempo picks up with some handclaps and finger snaps."

Again, the synths do NOT sound like 1999. I don't find the lyrics cheesy, personally, but of course that's subjective. Also, I hear no hand claps and finger snaps in this snippet. If I had to wager, I'd say Jake is full of shit. Sorry.

Judging from the snippets, I feel like the album sounds promising. I'm still wondering if the snippet from the "Fergie" video really is Prince. Judging from the German review, it seems like the only song it could be is "Sticky Like Glue." I guess we'll find out.


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Reply #135 posted 07/06/10 8:32am

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Keep in mind that a lot of Prince songs change drastically throughout the song
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Reply #136 posted 07/06/10 9:33am

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IstenSzek said:

only 3 more days and still no leak? how does he manage to keep such a tight lid on it?

incredible. i hate it, but i have to applaud him for it too lol

http://torrentfreak.com/prince-primes-pirates-for-huge-download-fest-with-20ten-100706/

Prince Primes Pirates For Huge Download Fest With 20Ten

Written by enigmax on July 06, 2010

Pint-sized popstar Prince will be giving his latest album away for free in a UK newspaper this week. Declaring the Internet “completely over”, iTunes nor any other online store will get access to his music. “Computers and digital gadgets are no good,” he declared in an interview, just as millions of file-sharers line up to use their hopeless number crunchers to suck his latest offering down the pipes.

2010This week will see the release of Prince’s new album. The ten-song offering which kicks off with a track called ‘Compassion’ will not be available in bricks and mortar record stores.

In an interview with the UK’s Daily Mirror tabloid – which will be giving the album away for free in a covermount promotion this week – Prince explains why the likes of iTunes and other digital music stores won’t be getting the track either.

“The internet’s completely over. I don’t see why I should give my new music to iTunes or anyone else. They won’t pay me an advance for it and then they get angry when they can’t get it,” he explained.

“The internet’s like MTV. At one time MTV was hip and suddenly it became outdated. Anyway, all these computers and digital gadgets are no good. They just fill your head with numbers and that can’t be good for you,” he added.

While the album is also set to be given away with other newspapers, such as Het Nieuwsblad and De Gentenaar in Belgium and Rolling Stone magazine in Germany, contrary to claims by Prince, 20Ten will also be available for free via thousands of Internet outlets.

Sometime soon, probably before the planned release date of July 10th, 20Ten will be all over BitTorrent, Gnutella, dozens of one-click hosters, Usenet and file-sharing blogs worldwide and not one of them will have paid Prince the kind of advance he expects but didn’t receive from iTunes and other digital stores. With nowhere else but from a newspaper in limited numbers to get the album, Prince fans will turn to the web in their millions.

At this point in the final paragraphs one would normally sum up the news. “Prince is crazy for slamming the Internet and digital devices” or maybe “Prince is a hero for giving his music away” but in this case it’s quite difficult.

“I really believe in finding new ways to distribute my music,” he told The Mirror and strangely, by completely shunning the Internet with the release of 20Ten, what Prince has done is given this “outdated” network a golden opportunity to distribute his music on a scale worthy of an artist of his stature.

So where can people download this album right now? Well, it seems, absolutely nowhere. Despite the fact that almost 100% of albums leak weeks before their planned release date, 20Ten remains stubbornly offline with just 4 days to go.

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Reply #137 posted 07/06/10 10:13am

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ARRRGGHHHH!

I CAN'T WAIT!!!!

BEEN REPLAYING 3121 AND PLANET EARTH!!!!

NEED

NEW

MUSIC

NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Reply #138 posted 07/06/10 10:16am

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violetblues said:

novabrkr said:

[img:$uid]http://www.blogcdn.com/www.aolradioblog.com/media/2010/06/princeartworkcd200.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://i20.tinypic.com/i59fes.jpg[/img:$uid]

hmmm

As someone who works in the arts, i was curious and looked up the artist responsible for the Bowie cover. I was shocked to find out it was by Rex Ray, an artist who's work I love.

Bowie is an art connoisseur and had become acquainted with Ray and asked him if he knew an illustrator to come up with an anime character for the album. Ray asked to be given a shot for the project and the cover is the result.

It has to be pointed out that Rex Ray is mostly known for his gorgeous "abstract" work and that maybe he should stick to that. lol This cover clearly demonstrates he is completly out of his element. Bowie as an art connoisseur should know how amateurish that cover turned out. But who knows, maybe that was the intent but i doubt it. More likely he did not want to hurt Ray's feeling especially afer he volunteered to do it.

Rex Ray also designed Wendy & Lisa's beautiful "White Flags" cover art, you can clearly see where his strength as an artist lies. lol






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I think both covers are incredible. I like the abstract look, and can not wait to get my cd. With Prince's 20Ten cover, it appears like it is saying that Prince is still a work in progress, since the hand is present with the pen in hand. Hmmmm... maybe?

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Reply #139 posted 07/06/10 10:18am

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dannyd5050 said:

IstenSzek said:

only 3 more days and still no leak? how does he manage to keep such a tight lid on it?

incredible. i hate it, but i have to applaud him for it too lol

http://torrentfreak.com/prince-primes-pirates-for-huge-download-fest-with-20ten-100706/

While the comments he made were incredibly dumb, the comments on this article are hilariously butt hurt over someone insulting their interwebz.

Still, it's impressive the album hasn't leaked yet.

I still play pokemon. I play warcraft. And I'm awesome.
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Reply #140 posted 07/06/10 10:54am

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Wow, the snippets sound totally pandering retro. And I'm loving every minute of it.

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Reply #141 posted 07/06/10 11:09am

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Hmm.. not liking the vocals/lyrics on those snippets at all. He is performing each of them in an almost identical fashion. Like lifeless bad rhyming. IMHO!

And the music sounds like Prince medley from 20 years ago.

Fingers crossed the full tracks play out better.

neutral

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Reply #142 posted 07/06/10 11:20am

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Spinlight said:

Like most of his stuff lately, this is fresh from the studio and only about 2-3 songs will be played live because even Prince knows he ain't pullin' shit off anymore.

...so bedcause he never played Soft & Wet Elephants and Flowers Joy and Repitition or Fell U Up live does that mean that those were garbage too?

lol, He did perform those live.

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Reply #143 posted 07/06/10 11:33am

Sdldawn

the snippits sound pretty good. I hope he keeps a consistent production value to all of them.. and if he chooses to spread his "word".. I hope its cryptic so we can at least enjoy the lyrics. From each snippit the production seems to have a consistent sound and fullness about them. I think that is what made his early music so "repeatable"... they had a simplistic idea that left our minds wanting more.. if he can achieve it in the new album i'd say it will be great.. however, looking at his last albums there hasn't been a consitent album in a long time.. (3121 would probably be the closest)...

we shall see.

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Reply #144 posted 07/06/10 11:34am

violetblues

Rorywan said:

Hmm.. not liking the vocals/lyrics on those snippets at all. He is performing each of them in an almost identical fashion. Like lifeless bad rhyming. IMHO!

And the music sounds like Prince medley from 20 years ago.

Fingers crossed the full tracks play out better.

neutral

Completely agree. The sound of the music does sound like his classic 80's sound, a lot more than MplSound. Maybe too much.

"Compassion" sounds like a cross between "Lets Pretend We're Married" and "Lets go Crazy"

Lavaux sound just like The Pointers "Automatic" for some reason.

I do like "Beginning Endlessly", it sounds the most original.

But the vocals, delivery and lyrics sound awful. Just terrible.

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Reply #145 posted 07/06/10 11:39am

Sdldawn

what bothers me about the album as a whole is potentially hearing something close to "Hot Summer" and "Cause and Effect".. I didn't see them listed on the new album.. but I hope nothing is even close to those.. I couldn't even get through them..

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Reply #146 posted 07/06/10 12:45pm

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anyone amused by the irony that he says the internet is dead but there is no release date for the US, meaning fans in the US will have to...well ya'll know.

From the samples I might buy it, but I am not going to wait for it.

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Reply #147 posted 07/06/10 12:57pm

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Exactly, what does he expect U.S. fans to do? I actually have a copy being sent to me but I will be looking for this on Saturday razz

And buy an official copy whenever it is released here but I sure in the hell am not gonna wait for an official U.S. release!!

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Reply #148 posted 07/06/10 1:09pm

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I found this tracklisting somewhere on the internet. Looks like maybe an earlier configuration of the album?

1.Eye Came 2 Get funky
2.Hot Summer
3.SometimesNever
4.Play The Game
5.Fight 4 Ur Love
6.Alicia
7.Footprints
8.If Eye Could…
9.Cold
10.20Ten


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Reply #149 posted 07/06/10 1:16pm

Klyph

Ok, in March 2010 The Mirror's circulation was around 1.2 million. The cost of the paper is 45 pence (from what I can gather) which is about 70 cents U.S. Does anyone know what the increase in circulation was for The Mail on Sunday (which had a 2.2 million circulation in '08) when Planet Earth was released? I'm just trying to figure out how much money Prince could have logically made/make.

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