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the Gold Experience era 9.26.1995 ![]() ![]() The Gold Experience is an album released by Prince (his stage name at that time being) on September 26, 1995. The album is considered by some fans to be the Purple Rain of the 1990s, due to the rock and roll feel, accessibility of the tracks, and Prince's own admission that the song, "Gold" would be the next "Purple Rain". Prince wanted to release The Gold Experience under the symbolic moniker in 1994, alongside Come, which was marketed as a "Prince" album of "old" material. Both albums contained material from Prince's musical production called Glam Slam Ulysses. The plan was to show the superior quality of the newer material as opposed to the older "Prince" material. Plans were thwarted by Warner Bros., which felt the market would be over-saturated with Prince material, and withheld the album. Prince was prompted to protest by appearing in public with the word "slave" written on his face and stating The Gold Experience's release date would be "never". ![]() Some songs originally intended for the album, such as "Interactive" and "Days of Wild", were removed by the time of the album's release. It has been alleged by some[who?] that "Days of Wild" was nixed by Warner Brothers at the request of some of the larger retail chains, because of its lyrical content. By the time the album actually was released in 1995, Prince's interest in it had passed, and he was working on songs for his 3-CD opus, Emancipation, which could be partially responsible for the album's lack of commercial success. Despite that, The Gold Experience garnered Prince his best reviews in nearly a decade. The Gold Experience produced three singles, each with an accompanying music video: "I Hate U", "The Most Beautiful Girl in the World", and "Gold". Additionally, a video for "Dolphin" was released prior to the release of the album. The singles enjoyed success on the R&B and pop charts, with the exception of "Gold". "P Control" was also intended to be released as a single, but was canceled because it did not receive enough airplay. It was, however, performed at the 1995 VH1 Fashion Rocks Awards. The song "Billy Jack Bitch" was speculated by many sources to have been written about a Minneapolis Star Tribune gossip columnist known as "CJ". Prince denied the song was about the columnist when CJ herself interviewed him. ![]() 1.)P Control" – 5:59 NPG Operator" – 0:12 2.)Endorphinmachine" – 4:07 3.)Shhh" – 7:18 4.)We March" (Prince, Nona Gaye) – 4:49 NPG Operator" – 0:18 5.)The Most Beautiful Girl in the World" – 4:25 6.)Dolphin" – 4:59 NPG Operator" – 0:20 7.)Now" – 4:30 NPG Operator" – 0:31 8.)319" – 3:05 NPG Operator" – 0:10 9.)Shy" – 5:04 10.)Billy Jack Bitch" (Michael B. Nelson, Prince) – 5:32 11a.)I Hate U" – 5:54 NPG Operator" – 0:45 12.)Gold" – 7:23– 6:08 ![]() [Edited 2/5/10 11:17am] | |
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I thought it was a good album, good era, good look. ![]() ![]() ![]() I do nothing professionally. I only do things for fun. johnart: Acrylic's old bras is where tits of all sizes go to frolic after they die. Tit Heaven. | |
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For me this was the crescendo of Prince fail, At this point I knew it was over, I realized the dumbing down of his music was not a fluke or phase but what he had become.
This is most overrated Prince album by far, (I would say only next to TRC, but only a small percentage of the most fervent fams actually think that one is any good.) This is another time when his music matched his appearance, in the 80 it was defiant controversial and original, here at this point he just looked, sounded and acted like an idiot. Can anyone really say the like think "We March" is not one of his all time worst? that "Now" "319" and all those god awfull NPG operator bits spread across the dam thing are not as bad or worse than anything on "Rave"? Sure its better than MplSound, but anything ever recorded is better than Msound. This is not a "rock" record, it is the sound of a genius dumbing his sound to try and pander to the kids listening to Milli Vanilli | |
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violetblues said: For me this was the crescendo of Prince fail, At this point I knew it was over, I realized the dumbing down of his music was not a fluke or phase but what he had become.
This is most overrated Prince album by far, (I would say only next to TRC, but only a small percentage of the most fervent fams actually think that one is any good.) This is another time when his music matched his appearance, in the 80 it was defiant controversial and original, here at this point he just looked, sounded and acted like an idiot. Can anyone really say the like think "We March" is not one of his all time worst? that "Now" "319" and all those god awfull NPG operator bits spread across the dam thing are not as bad or worse than anything on "Rave"? Sure its better than MplSound, but anything ever recorded is better than Msound. This is not a "rock" record, it is the sound of a genius dumbing his sound to try and pander to the kids listening to Milli Vanilli I couldn't disagree with this statement more. The Gold Experience bubbles with energy and guts. I adore every part of it. I think it's definitely his best album since 1988. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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This is a nice article. I Love this album although I can admit that some of the lyrics are racy.
The song, "Gold," is beautifully charming. I really appreciate this side of Prince. Prince has a way of writing beautiful songs about the soul. ![]() "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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prince.org exclusive: Ultimate Gold Experience
![]() Part 3: All that glitters ain’t Gold By Scififilmnerd The making of gold After having completed his best tour in years, the Act II tour of Europe 26 July – 7 September 1993, ![]() On 20 September 1993, ![]() 319 has been said by former ![]() ![]() While ![]() ![]() ![]() Eligible bachelor seeks TMBGITW On a trip to Paris, 10-22 November 1993, ![]() By now, ![]() ![]() ![]() On 10 December 1993, ![]() It encouraged all interested to send videos and/or pictures to Paisley Park. The material sent in response to the advertisement was utilized in the video for The Most Beautiful Girl In The World, which was shot 22 January 1994, and on the single cover. The end of the Paisley Park era On 1 February 1994, Warner Bros. and Paisley Park Enterprises announced that they were terminating the Paisley Park Records label, a joint venture between ![]() ![]() ![]() To replace the Paisley Park Records label as an outlet for side projects, ![]() Supposedly, a senior Warner Bros. executive told ![]() ![]() In early 1994, ![]() ![]() ![]() 1. The Most Beautiful Girl In The World (Edit) (4:07) 2. Love 4 1 Another (3:43) ![]() Track list unknown, but 7-tracks including Come and The Most Beautiful Girl In The World One gold February Love 4 1 Another was inspired by the 17 January 1994 earthquake in Los Angeles. It was renamed New World when it was finally released on Emancipation in 1996. From 20 January and well into February 1994, ![]() The first known configuration of Gold, which like the Black Album was to be identified by its cover color, started out with two Come tracks: ![]() 1. Come (4:49) 2. Endorphin Machine (3:51) 3. Hide The Bone 4. Chaos And Disorder (4:13) 5. Listen 2 The Rhythm 6. Now 7. Right The Wrong (4:42) 8. Acknowledge Me 9. Ripopgodazippa 10. The Most Beautiful Girl In The World 11. 319 12. Shy (5:04) 13. Billy Jack Bitch 14. eye Hate U 15. Gold (7:38) This configuration was the source of the Outtakes 1993-‘94 bootleg, which appeared in 2004. Judging from the six tracks that got bootlegged, there were no NPG Operator segues on this configuration. The person who had the six tracks was supposedly not happy about sharing them, which may explain why fans are still waiting for the rest of this configuration to appear. In February 1994, ![]() The studly Brian Gallagher of The NPG Hornz recorded a saxophone version, Brian’s Mix. Release of The Most Beautiful Girl In The World On 13 February 1994, ![]() Tevin Campbell attended the show and legend has it that Campbell told ![]() ![]() The day after, on 14 February 1994, The Most Beautiful Girl In The World was released as the first single by ![]() ![]() ![]() 1. The Most Beautiful Girl In The World (Edit) (4:07) 2. Beautiful (Edit) (3:57) ![]() 1. The Most Beautiful Girl In The World (Edit) (4:07) 2. Beautiful (Edit) (3:57) 3. Beautiful (Extended Club Version) (6:25) 4. Beautiful Beats (3:28) The single became a huge world-wide success. It reached number three on the Billboard Pop Chart and number two on the R&B Chart. ![]() Box Talk 777 The largest TV and radio network in Holland, Radio Veronica, began broadcasting unreleased ![]() ![]() 1. Interactive (with NPG Operator) (2:25) 2. NPG Operator/Days Of Wild (4:03) 3. The Beautiful Experience Medley (10:32) 4. NPG Operator/Now (4:46) 5. Acknowledge Me (5:28) 6. 319 (3:21) 7. Pheromone (4:36) – including lines that would end up in Poem The Beautiful Experience Medley was of the remix versions of The Most Beautiful Girl In The World that would be released on The Beautiful Experience EP 17 May 1994. Pheromone was a Come track. Subsequent broadcasts of the tape followed in several other European countries. Meanwhile, ![]() ![]() Supposedly this meant that ![]() Ripped off at The Dawn The Beautiful Experience TV movie premiered on the British Sky One TV channel on 3 April 1994 followed by broadcasts in many other countries. Nona Gaye starred as a woman who decides to spend a Saturday night on ![]() Then she falls asleep and dreams of more songs for her money, like so many real-life fans, who has been similarly ripped off at ![]() The Jam was the kind of song where, if you had to go to the bathroom or order a pizza like the character in the movie, this was the time to do it, but the rest of the songs were first rate, particularly Acknowlegde Me. It had a cool dance video starring Mayte and sexy choreographer Jamie King and was slated to be the follow-up single to The Most Beautiful Girl In The World, if such a thing had been possible. Meanwhile, ![]() The lyrics for What It Is… were printed in Uptown #13: What It Is… To know the Way, We go the Way We do the Way The way we do The things we do. It’s all there in front of you, But if you try too hard to see it, You’ll only become Confused I am me, And you are you, As you can see; But when you do The things that you can do, You will find the Way, And the Way will follow you. The one and only Gold review In April 1994, ![]() ![]() 1. Strength 2. Ripopgodazippa 3. Interactive 4. Space 5. Endorphin Machine 6. Days Of Wild 7. Now 8. Angie (The Rolling Stones) 9. 319 10. The Jam (Graham Central Station) 11. Gold This configuration included segues, like the tagline “all respect to Larry Graham” before The Jam and a bit of the Coca Cola theme before Gold, as well as three tracks from Come, which seemed strange because he also made an individual configuration of Come in April. ![]() ![]() ![]() Alan Light continued: “His album covers used to include the phrase “May U live 2 see the dawn.” This album opens with the words “Welcome 2 the dawn.” (…) “We talked earlier about the title track to The Gold Album, which members of his entourage were raving about but he didn't play for me. He said then that he's worried about playing some of the new songs because the bootleggers will have them out on the market before he will.” Despite this reservation, ![]() A rehearsal at the Canal+ studios in Paris, 6 May 1994, included instrumental performances of 319, Shy, Billy Jack Bitch and Acknowledge Me by The NPG before ![]() Gold becomes The Gold Experience ![]() ![]() Then he went back home and transformed Gold into The Gold Experience. Billy Jack Bitch and eye Hate U were edited for length and Gold had the NPG Operator added in the process. The cover was printed in Uptown #21. ![]() 1. NPG Operator (0:11) 2. Interactive (3:03) 3. NPG Operator (0:05) 4. Days Of Wild (3:46) 5. NPG Operator (0:17) 6. The Most Beautiful Girl In The World (4:25) 7. NPG Operator (0:20) 8. Now (4:30) 9. Acknowledge Me (5:27) 10. Ripopgodazippa (4:39) 11. NPG Operator (0:17) 12. 319 (3:19) 13. NPG Operator (0:09) 14. Shy (5:03) 15. Billy Jack Bitch (5:31) 16. eye Hate U (5:53) 17. NPG Operator (0:44) 18. Gold (7:22) On 17 May 1994, The Beautiful Experience EP was released. It peaked at number 92 on the Pop Chart and number 29 on the R&B Chart. ![]() 1. Beautiful (5:55) 2. Staxowax (5:14) 3. Mustang Mix (6:19) 4. Flutestramental (3:35) 5. Sexy Staxophone And Guitar (3:54) 6. Mustang Instrumental (3:23) 7. The Most Beautiful Girl In The World (4:37) A US promo CD and 12” release contained Staxowax, Mustang Mix, Brian’s Mix, Beautiful and Original Mix. The Love Experience ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The Love Sign war While ![]() ![]() ![]() “I said, OK, listen, there are people shooting and killing each other in the ‘hood,” ![]() Regardless, The Love Sign video premiered on BET 27 June 1994, and 12 July 1994 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() But ![]() Changing the experience In September 1994, ![]() ![]() The verbal agreement was never formalized into writing, however, and, in the end, ![]() During September and October 1994 ![]() Finally, he included two Come tracks, Endorphinmachine and Dolphin. Both were updated before inclusion. ![]() 1. P. Control (5:59) 2. NPG Operator (0:12) 3. Endorphinmachine (4:07) 4. Shhh! (7:18) 5. We March (?) 6. NPG Operator (0:05) 7. Days Of Wild (3:46) 9. NPG Operator (0:18) 10. The Most Beautiful Girl In The World (4:25) 11. Dolphin (4:59) 12. NPG Operator (0:20) 13. Now (4:30) 14. NPG Operator (0:14) 15. 319 (3:19) 16. NPG Operator (0:10) 17. Shy (5:04) 18. Billy Jack Bitch (5:32) 19. eye Hate U (5:54) 20. NPG Operator (0:45) 21. Gold (7:23) Black instead of Gold On 13 October 1994, a press release by ![]() ![]() ![]() The flyers included the new track listing for The Gold Experience. Still, less than two weeks later, 25 October 1994, ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The discussions coincided with a turnover in Warner Bros.’ top management, with Lenny Waronker and Mo Ostin leaving the record company, which restricted their power to make deals. Still, they were able to rescue the Black Album from the original three-album deal. ![]() The Black Album was released 22 November 1994. ![]() Warner Bros.’ slave ![]() ![]() Meanwhile, Danny Goldberg, former manager of Nirvana, was appointed chairman of Warner Bros. Records. While there was little basis for assuming that Goldberg would be easier to deal with, the shift in regimes offered the potential of a fresh start. In early 1995, ![]() ![]() On 12 February 1995, it was confirmed that there would be ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The Ultimate Live Experience? On 1 March 1995, ![]() On BBC TV’s The Sunday Show, 5 March 1995, there was a transmission of ![]() ![]() Some critics bemoaned the lack of hits being played at the shows and ![]() ![]() At the first show in London, 3 March 1995, ![]() “Since the last time I’ve seen you,” he continued, “I made seven albums, what do you think about that? Contrary to rumor it’s all good.” Those seven albums were probably Come, The Gold Experience, The New Power Generation: Exodus, Madhouse: 24, Mayte: Latino Barbie Doll, Heart and Chaos And Disorder. The Remix Experiences On 12 May 1995, ![]() ![]() ![]() Although Goldberg had not committed to any specific timetable for releasing the new albums, ![]() Before turning The Gold Experience over to Warner Bros., ![]() ![]() 1. P. Control (5:59) 2. NPG Operator (0:12) 3. Endorphinmachine (4:07) 4. Shhh! (7:18) 5. We March (4:49) 6. NPG Operator (0:18) 7. The Most Beautiful Girl In The World (4:25) 8. Dolphin (4:59) 9. NPG Operator (0:20) 10. Now (4:30) 11. NPG Operator (0:31) 12. 319 (3:05) 13. NPG Operator (0:10) 14. Shy (5:04) 15. Billy Jack Bitch (5:32) 16. eye Hate U (5:54) 17. NPG Operator (0:45) 18. Gold (7:23) While Eric Leeds had done a new version of Brian’s Mix, Beautiful Girl, which had been released on the Get Wild single in Europe, and a Quiet Night Mix of eye Hate U, ![]() ![]() Track list unknown, but includes remixes of eye Hate U and Pussy Control ![]() ![]() Track list unknown, but recorded live at Glam Slam Miami, Florida, 7 June 1995 Prior to 8 July 1995 ![]() ![]() 1. P. Control (Club Mix) (Edit) (3:04) 2. Shhh! (Edit) (3:54) 3. N.P.G.: Get Wild (In The House Mix) (Edit) (2:14)* 4. eye Hate U (Remix) (3:28)* - combines eye Hate U (Quiet Night Mix) & eye Hate U (Extended Remix) 5. 319 (Edit) (1:28) 6. Shy (Edit) (2:22) 7. Billy Jack Bitch (Remix Edit) (2:31) 8. Madhouse: Sonny T. Segue (Edit) (0:28) 9. Madhouse: Rootie Kazootie (Edit) (2:37) 10. Chatounette Controle (2:24) 11. P. Control (Control Tempo Edit) (1:23) - the outro of P. Control (House Mix) 12. The NPG Orchestra: Kamasutra Overture #5 (0:43) – later renamed Serotonin 13. N.P.G.: Free The Music (Edit) (1:44) 14. Segue (0:49) – remix of NPG Operator preceding TMBGITW on The Gold Experience 15. Gold (Edit) (3:39) What happened to Days Of Wild? In mid-July 1995 ![]() She revealed that ![]() During the rest of 1995, ![]() In their September 1995 issue, Esquire Gentleman printed an interview with ![]() This came as a big surprise to people at Warner Bros. No one knew about it and ![]() ![]() 1. eye Hate U (7” Edit w/o Guitar) (3:50) 2. eye Hate U (Album Edit) (4:26) 3. eye Hate U (Quiet Night Mix By Eric Leeds) (3:55) 4. eye Hate U (Extended Remix) (6:17) 5. eye Hate U (Album Version) (5:58) – without NPG Operator On the day of the eye Hate U single release, 12 September 1995, ![]() Release of The Gold Experience Warner Bros. claimed that the release of The Gold Experience had been rescheduled twice because ![]() ![]() Although fans would have preferred to get the May 1994 configuration with Interactive, Acknowledge Me and Ripopgodazippa, The Gold Experience was still a pretty good release despite its impact being diluted by its much delayed release. With ![]() The title of Pussy Control had been changed to P. Control to avoid controversy from retailers who may have refused to sell the album with the word “pussy” printed on the packaging, but the record’s commercial performance still ended up being considered disastrous: Only 530.000 units were sold in the United States, with the album reaching number 6 on the Pop Chart and number 2 on the R&B chart. Critics generally approved of The Gold Experience, calling it ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Danny Kelly of Q was a little less enthusiastic: “After a succession of breathtaking albums in the '80s, his output has been characterized by aimlessness.” He concluded that The Gold Experience “is still no Purple Rain, Around The World In A Day or Sign ‘O’ The Times, but the gem-to-lint ratio is altogether healthier.” The final Gold tracks On 25 November 1995, ![]() ![]() 1. Gold (Edit) (4:43) 2. Rock And Roll Is Alive! (And It Lives In Minneapolis) (4:34) 3. eye Hate U (Extended Remix) (6:17) In early December 1995, a cassette with the remixes of P. Control was handed out for free to the audience at a Paisley Park concert. A version of P. Control (Club Mix) with a different beginning than the version on the cassette was released on the 1998 Crystal Ball collection. ![]() 1. House Mix (5:47) 2. Club Mix (6:02) Around November 1995, ![]() ![]() 1. Mustang Mix ´96 (4:25) 2. The Most Beautiful Girl In The World (4:37) In early 1996, ![]() On 27 January 1996, VH-1 broadcast the premiere of Love 4 One Another, a TV movie resembling The Beautiful Experience TV film with dramatic scenes interspersed between live performances and videos. Love 4 One Another included videos for Gold and Rock ‘n’ Roll Is Alive! (And It Lives In Minneapolis), as well as live performances of Days Of Wild and The Jam filmed at a concert at Paisley Park 28 October 1995. The film caused quite a stir amongst ![]() ![]() In 2005, a live version of We March recorded at Paisley Park 22 October 1995 became available as a download from ![]() Thanks to: Virgo, BorisFishpaw, Gavin H., JediMaster, Groovement, Neversin and Hamsterhuey Sources: Julie Baumgold: Glitter Slave, Esquire Gentleman, Fall 1995 David Cavanagh: Sign Here…, Q, 1995 Axel Engelhardt: Child Of The Sun – an interview with Mayte, Uptown #21 Alex Hahn: Possessed – The Rise And Fall Of ![]() Liz Jones: Purple Reign – The Artist Formerly Known As ![]() Harold Lewis with David Irving: Everybody Wants 2 Sell What’s Already Been Sold, Uptown #20 ![]() Andy Richardson: My Name Isn’t ![]() Scififilmnerd: More evidence of COME 1993: http://prince.org/msg/7/105603 TTMAN: The original Come album configuration: http://prince.org/msg/7/141904 Uptown Presents Days Of Wild – A Documentary Of ![]() ![]() Part 1: The Come(back) album that never happened: http://prince.org/msg/7/317254 Part 2: No records allowed, only videos: http://prince.org/msg/7/317534 Part 4: Slave to the system: http://prince.org/msg/5/319042 Part 5: Chaos and disorder: http://prince.org/msg/7/319752 Appendix 1: List of unreleased ![]() Appendix 2: List of unreleased Associated Artists album configurations: http://prince.org/msg/5/319895 Appendix 3: List of chronological ![]() | |
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Probably his last really good album. This one still sounds good today. Perhaps a little overcompressed (everything is nowadays) and loud but it goes with the overall energy of the album.
Would have preferred he kept "Interactive" and the original mix of Endorphinemachine but there was a lot of effort put into this. | |
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The only good song from that period is 'SHY' | |
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My personal favorite part of his whole musical career | |
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its 1 of my favorite prince albums and time.
on this he was wild again and thats what i'm missing lately the wild prince | |
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12. 3. 1995 tv VH-1 Fashion & MusicAwards
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February 14. 1996
Park Avenue United Methodist Church Minneapolis Wedding Prince & Mayte Jannell Garcia anyone else other wedding photos? | |
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OldFriends4Sale said: 12. 3. 1995 tv VH-1 Fashion & MusicAwards
P Control (House Mix) ![]() 2 more: ![]() ![]() Prince 4Ever. ![]() | |
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Incredible era! One of his best albums for sure, even the artwork is fantastic! Should get a Warner cash-in re-release remaster or something. ![]() | |
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Moonbeam said: violetblues said: For me this was the crescendo of Prince fail, At this point I knew it was over, I realized the dumbing down of his music was not a fluke or phase but what he had become.
This is most overrated Prince album by far, (I would say only next to TRC, but only a small percentage of the most fervent fams actually think that one is any good.) This is another time when his music matched his appearance, in the 80 it was defiant controversial and original, here at this point he just looked, sounded and acted like an idiot. Can anyone really say the like think "We March" is not one of his all time worst? that "Now" "319" and all those god awfull NPG operator bits spread across the dam thing are not as bad or worse than anything on "Rave"? Sure its better than MplSound, but anything ever recorded is better than Msound. This is not a "rock" record, it is the sound of a genius dumbing his sound to try and pander to the kids listening to Milli Vanilli I couldn't disagree with this statement more. The Gold Experience bubbles with energy and guts. I adore every part of it. I think it's definitely his best album since 1988. Here, here. There's a freshness and raw energy to The Gold Experience that every album after Lovesexy lacked. He was at a creative rebirth in 1994. [Edited 2/14/10 3:27am] 3121... Don't U Wanna Come? | |
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vivid said: The only good song from that period is 'SHY'
Gotta love these type of hyperboles. | |
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Not quite the album it could/should have been -- for me, it never quite did justice to the material he'd showcased on the Beautiful Experience TV special -- but still an exciting record of what seems to have been his greatest 'purple patch' of the 90s. The concert he put on at Wembley Arena in early 1995, with all the new material turned out live, was electrifying - and closing the show with Gold (at that time, a brand new song) was sublime! "Not everything that is faced can be changed; but nothing can be changed until it is faced." - James Baldwin | |
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This album showed, great as it was, the poor sequencing and lack of "sight" of making a cohesive album, whether it was Prince, the WB people fighting him, but if you take all the tracks from COME/GOLD/CHAOS which were all complete at this time and throw in the ones that got shelved and then appeared on Crystal Ball, any fan can put together a few cohesive albums better than the executives making the calls. I love this era of Prince, because there was so much music, and videos flying under the radar, bootlegs, whatever you wanna call it, he was the one circulating all of it, had he been able to market all these things that got lost, he would have some amazing output in the big picture, instead of looking like a crazy person to most of the world by changing his name and writing slave on his face "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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I agree with your statement in regards to the albums but with the statement that Prince looked like a fool with the protest I humbly disagree.
Whoever told Prince that he couldn't make another hit was the fool. He took a stand on an issue and 15 years later he is still standing on that principle. We ,the fans, can sit back and debate the outcome but he's still highly regarded among his peers and is in the Hall Of Fame. Lastly. The "suit" that told Prince that he would never have another hit may be the reason why he has not had one. In the past 15 years of bullshit music I can think of at least 10 Prince songs from that period that could have been hit material. The music biz is full of non music people deciding daily what is and what "ain't" hits. [Edited 2/14/10 10:35am] | |
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We can blindly blame a corporation "suit" for the lack of "hits" but the fact of the matter is WB promoted that stuff as much as Prince let it be.
Prince still had clout but was quickly burning it up with these type of records. By the time this record came out it sounded corny as hell (to me at least) If people didnt want to buy any of the supposed "hits" on it, how can you blame the "suits", they dont care what people buy they just want to make a buck like everyone else. 1995 was a year music was moving away from cornball new jack type stuff and more towards earthier grunge and rap, and here was prince covered in glitter sparklies and sprinkles (literally!) still 5 years behind the curve with this cringeworthy slop with Vanessa Bartholomew segues and all. MAYBE if you look at all the material produced as a whole from this era we can say their was something there, BUT what was actually released to the public in 1995 is a sad sad mess. [Edited 2/14/10 12:20pm] | |
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violetblues said: For me this was the crescendo of Prince fail, At this point I knew it was over, I realized the dumbing down of his music was not a fluke or phase but what he had become.
This is most overrated Prince album by far, (I would say only next to TRC, but only a small percentage of the most fervent fams actually think that one is any good.) This is another time when his music matched his appearance, in the 80 it was defiant controversial and original, here at this point he just looked, sounded and acted like an idiot. Can anyone really say the like think "We March" is not one of his all time worst? that "Now" "319" and all those god awfull NPG operator bits spread across the dam thing are not as bad or worse than anything on "Rave"? Sure its better than MplSound, but anything ever recorded is better than Msound. This is not a "rock" record, it is the sound of a genius dumbing his sound to try and pander to the kids listening to Milli Vanilli I actually agree with this. I think the reason this album is rated so highly amongst the diehards is because it was the last record he did which displayed his more open-minded, liberal beliefs before veering off and becoming a religious fanatic. The overtly sexual content and brash lyrics remind people of post-PR Prince. The actual songwriting is fairly poor. P Control is sheer novelty, We March and Now are complete throwaway NKOTB boyband dross. The title cut is merely a cynical and contrived attempt at creating a stadium rock anthem. Like much of his early 90s work, the whole record has aged horribly. Save for about three tracks it's difficult to listen to any of this record in 2010 without cringing. I've never understood the fans who hail this as a classic. To my ears songs like Joint 2 Joint, Face Down, New World, TGRES, I Love U But I Don't Trust U Anymore, Strange But True sound far sophisticated and inspired in comparison. [Edited 2/16/10 7:33am] | |
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violetblues said: novabrkr said: How about acknowledging the simple fact that many people consider this period to be one of his best? We certainly don't have to agree with you that it was a "sad sad mess", especially when you make such statements as music moving "towards Grunge" in 1995. Grunge was already more or less OVER in 1995.
The elements of grunge and earthier rock and rap music were still there by the end of 1999 lets not rewrite music history. That some fervent fams take to something is a whole other story. I totally agree. When The Gold Experience hit the street, I thought it was a pretty weak album, considering what came before it and what the radio was playing at the moment. Yeah, grunge was "over" (or assimilated into mainstream, take a pick) by the time The Gold Experience came out, but the musical landscape that it entered (and the records in the charts at that time) sounded far more geniunely "heavy" on guitar and anger and every record was made to sound raw. I mean, this was the year Garbage made it big, a POP band if ever, and they sounded far more urgent and unpolished than Gold Experience. Sonic Youth had a hit record, and Smashing Pumpkins had that 2xLP set and were selling like a pop act. I mean look here and tell me that rock was out. The Gold Experience is a GREAT f+cking album .. but at the time, it sounded years behind the curve. [Edited 2/16/10 7:06am] | |
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MattyJam said: violetblues said: For me this was the crescendo of Prince fail, At this point I knew it was over, I realized the dumbing down of his music was not a fluke or phase but what he had become.
This is most overrated Prince album by far, (I would say only next to TRC, but only a small percentage of the most fervent fams actually think that one is any good.) This is another time when his music matched his appearance, in the 80 it was defiant controversial and original, here at this point he just looked, sounded and acted like an idiot. Can anyone really say the like think "We March" is not one of his all time worst? that "Now" "319" and all those god awfull NPG operator bits spread across the dam thing are not as bad or worse than anything on "Rave"? Sure its better than MplSound, but anything ever recorded is better than Msound. This is not a "rock" record, it is the sound of a genius dumbing his sound to try and pander to the kids listening to Milli Vanilli I actually agree with this. I think the reason this album is rated so highly amongst the diehards is because it was the last record he did which displayed his more open-minded, liberal beliefs before veering off and becoming a religious fanatic. The overtly sexual content and brash lyrics remind people of post-PR Prince. The actual songwriting is fairly poor. P Control is sheer novelty, We March and Now are complete throwaway NKOTB boyband dross. The title cut is merely a cynical and contrived attempt at creating a stadium rock anthem. Like much of his early 90s work, the whole record has aged horribly. Save for about three tracks it's difficult to listen to any of this record in 2010 without cringing. I've never understood the fans who hail this as a classic. To my ears songs like Joint 2 Joint, Face Down, New World, TGRES, I Love U But I Don't Trust U Anymore, Strange But True sound far sophisticated and inspired in comparison.[Edited 2/16/10 7:33am] I agree with this part of your statement but there are many here who will tell you that the songs listed are bullshit and throwaway as well. Sad thing is that many great songs in the 1990's are thought of in that manner simply because they were not so called hits. | |
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