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Prince.org exclusive: Ultimate Chaos And Disorder PRINCE VS. WB: THE FANS LOST
Part 5: Chaos and disorder By Scififilmnerd The creation of Chaos And Disorder ![]() ![]() ![]() “He’s always making an album and he’ll put it away,” Mayte told Uptown in July 1995. “He got how many albums? He has got about five or six that are done now and people are asking, “hey, what about this? Is this the next one?” But you never know.” Chaos And Disorder tracks ![]() Other Chaos And Disorder tracks known to be in existence at the time was the title track and Right The Wrong, which were recorded on the same day in October 1993 and had been included on the first configuration of The Gold Album. The song Chaos And Disorder had evolved from a live extension of Peach, which ![]() Except for Empty Room, all of the tracks had been recorded with members of The New Power Generation. The NPG Hornz played on Right The Wrong. ![]() Track list unknown but includes: Chaos And Disorder, I Like It There, The Same December, Right The Wrong, Zannalee & Empty Room Possible Chaos And Disorder tracks With Chaos And Disorder apparently being the guitar rock album that Come ended up not being, another likely candidate for inclusion on Chaos And Disorder was Calhoun Square, which was recorded 15 June 1993 and of which an edit was made around this time. Chaos And Disorder appeared to have been a compilation of songs that didn’t make Come or The Gold Experience. As such, Interactive, What’s My Name, Strays Of The World, It’s About That Walk, Hide The Bone, Somebody’s Somebody, Ripopgodazippa and New World could theoretically have been included on it. (Acknowledge Me was included on NPG: Exodus at the time of the sequencing, and Listen 2 The Rhythm had been given to Mayte as The Rhythm Of Your ![]() Of course, the compilation could also have included tracks that have never been released or bootlegged and remain unknown to fans. By 22 December 1994, ![]() ![]() 1. The Same December (3:24) 2. 18 & Over (4:16) 3. Zannalee (2:51) 4. Empty Room (3:22) 44 seconds of Zannalee, recorded 14 June 1993, were released on The Undertaker home video in March 1995, previewing the full version of the song on Chaos And Disorder. To celebrate the video release, ![]() Free the slave On 22 December 1995, Paisley Park issued a press release that said: “ ![]() ![]() Another regime change had occurred at Warner Bros.: Danny Goldberg was out after just one year as Chairman and Vice Chairman Russ Thyret assumed the top job. Thyret had little appetite for dealing with ![]() In early 1996, negotiations began between Warner Bros. and ![]() ![]() ![]() The devolution of Chaos And Disorder Before disbanding The New Power Generation 8 March 1996, ![]() ![]() It is possible that Into The Light and I Will were originally recorded earlier and may even have been included on the original Chaos And Disorder configuration, as they, like What It Is… from 1994, seem to have been inspired by Betty Eadie’s book Embraced By The Light. In the liner notes by Jim Walsh for The Gold Experience it says that ![]() “I don’t read many books,” ![]() Rosie Gaines also added lead vocal to I Rock, Therefore I Am, which sounded like an outtake from the 1992 ![]() In late March/early April 1996, ![]() Finally, ![]() ![]() 1. Chaos And Disorder (4:20) 2. I Like It There (3:15) 3. Dinner With Delores (2:46) 4. The Same December (3:24) 5. Right The Wrong (4:39) 6. Zannalee (2:43) 7. I Rock, Therefore I Am (6:15) 8. Into The Light (2:46) 9. I Will (3:36) 10. Dig U Better Dead (4:00) 11. Had U (1:26) Release of Chaos And Disorder On 26 April 1996, ![]() ![]() ![]() Dinner With Delores was chosen as the first single and ![]() ![]() 1. Dinner With Delores (2:46) 2. Had U (1:26) 3. Right The Wrong (4:39) On 8 July 1996, a live performance of Dinner With Delores was broadcast on CBS’ The Late Show With David Letterman. It had been taped about a week earlier, 2 July 1996. ![]() ![]() ![]() Chaos And Disorder fared miserably on the charts, reaching only number 26 on the Billboard Album Chart and failing to enter the R&B Chart. It became ![]() Critical reaction Most critics lambasted Chaos And Disorder. “Tucked inside the cover of his latest platter is a warning that the LP was “originally intended 4 private use only”,” wrote Jim Farber of NY Daily News. “Translation: “Songs this junky should've never made it out of the studio. But since I can't stand my record company, and I couldn't care less about my fans, I put them out anyway - the better to give Warners one last reason to be sorry they ever crossed me.”” “Chaos & Disorder appears to be an uninspired collection of warmed-over jams, sketches, snatches and leftovers,” wrote Jim Walsh in St. Paul Pioneer Press. “Has there ever been a more forgettable Prince single than Dinner With Delores? (…) But the biggest mystery is why would an artist so proud, and so fiercely competitive and trailblazing, release such a mediocre work?” “Chaos and Disorder is a vault-clearing throw-together meant to fulfill a contract,” said Entertainment Weekly. “No longer content to wallow in a persecution complex, ![]() “Maybe he was just saving the good stuff for his new three-disc set, Emancipation,” pondered Rolling Stone Online. “If so, the die-hard fans got hosed. And they’re not the ones who made him a slave.” On the positive side, some reviewers concluded that “for a slapped-together throwaway, it’s not bad” (Minneapolis Star-Tribune), “these are hardly the throwaway outtakes some artists use to wrap up a contract” (The News-Leader, Springfield, MO) and “you’d do well to remember that the worst throwaway crap from TAFKAP outshines the vast majority of other current artists’ most inspired efforts.” (Rebecca Eisenberg, Addicted To Noise.) The final Chaos And Disorder tracks There was no second single release from Chaos And Disorder, but ![]() In 1998, ![]() ![]() ![]() In 2007, Prince performed Calhoun Square, Chaos And Disorder, I Like It There and Empty Room at a memorable rock aftershow in London, 29 August. In 2009, Prince reunited with NPG members Sonny Thompson and Michael Bland for a legendary rock concert in Los Angeles, 28 March. They performed Chaos And Disorder, I Like It There and Empty Room, not to mention the classic Peach from Come, taking the audience back to happier times – for the fans, if not for Prince. Of course, Prince changed the lyrics to Chaos And Disorder, singing “your world” instead of “my world”, suggesting that there’s no chaos and disorder in his life anymore. Thanks to: Virgo Sources: Axel Engelhardt: Child Of The Sun – an interview with Mayte, Uptown #21 Alex Hahn: Possessed – The Rise And Fall Of Prince KAB: 1993-1996, contract filler and justifying C&D…..: http://prince.org/msg/7/159658 Steve Malins: Cradle To Slave/Tome Alone, Vox, May/June 1995 Prince In Print: http://princetext.tripod.com/ Uptown Presents Days Of Wild – A Documentary Of Prince/ ![]() Part 1: The Come(back) album that never happened: http://prince.org/msg/7/317254 Part 2: No records allowed, only videos: http://prince.org/msg/7/317534 Part 3: All that glitters ain’t Gold: http://prince.org/msg/7/318315" target="_blank"> http://prince.org/msg/7/318315 Part 4: Slave to the system: http://prince.org/msg/5/319042 Part 6: Free at last!: http://prince.org/msg/7/342786 Appendix 1: List of unreleased Prince album configurations: http://prince.org/msg/7/319757 Appendix 2: List of unreleased Associated Artists album configurations: http://prince.org/msg/5/319895 Appendix 3: List of chronological Prince recordings: http://prince.org/msg/7/320445 [Edited 8/26/10 8:26am] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |
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CHRONOLOGICAL CHAOS AND DISORDER RECORDINGS
* = released version Eden Prairie Warehouse, late July – mid August 1985 Empty Room #1 (4/8) – recorded live with The Revolution ![]() Empty Room #2 (2:03) Come & Glam-O-Rama (later “Glam Slam Ulysses”), May 1993 Zannalee #1 (2:51) The Paisley Park Power Trio: The Undertaker, Paisley Park, 14 June 1993 Zannalee (Prelude) (0:44) Paisley Park, 15 June 1993 Calhoun Square #1 (4:46)* Guillome Tell Studios, Paris, 2 September 1993 It’s About That Walk #1 Paisley Park, mid to late October 1993 Chaos And Disorder #1 (4:13) – recorded on the same day as Right The Wrong #1 (4:42) – segues with Acknowledge Me Guillome Tell, Paris, 10-22 November 1993 It’s About That Walk #2 (4:26)* - possibly identical with #1 Chaos And Disorder, November - December 1994 The Same December (3:24)* - pre 8/11 Empty Room #3 (3:22) – possibly identical with #1 I Like It There #1 (3:15)* Calhoun Square #2 (4:28) – edit of #1 ![]() Sarah #1 (2:50) – with The NPG Hornz Into The Light (2:46)* - with The NPG Hornz, background vocals: Rosie Gaines I Will (3:36)* - with The NPG Hornz, background vocals: Rosie Gaines One Of Us #2 (5:19)* - tentative placing Chaos And Disorder & The Vault, March 1996 – delivered to W.B. 26/4-‘96 Sarah #2 (2:52)* Chaos And Disorder #2 (4:20)* – background vocals: Rosie Gaines Right The Wrong #2 (4:39)* Zannalee #2 (2:43)* - tentative placing I Rock, Therefore I Am (6:15)* – with the NPG Hornz, lead vocal: Rosie Gaines, rap: Scrap D & Steppa Ranks Dig U Better Dead (4:00)* - background vocals: Rosie Gaines Had U (1:26)* The Paisley Park Power Trio: Chaos And Disorder, South Beach Studios, Miami, late March – early April 1996 Chaos And Disorder #3 – with Sonny Thompson & Michael Bland I Like It There #2 - with Sonny Thompson & Michael Bland Dinner With Delores (2:46)* Right The Wrong #3 C-NOTE, October-November 2002 Empty Room #4 (4:01)* ![]() [Edited 9/30/09 7:36am] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |
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I love these. All the hard work you do on these Ultimate threads is greatly appreciated. | |
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The "Gold Tour Video Experience" Also had a video for Pussy Control | |
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purpledoveuk said: The "Gold Tour Video Experience" Also had a video for Pussy Control
I know, but I don't recall it being shown in full...? ![]() And it wasn't shown in sequence with the ones I've mentioned. ![]() [Edited 9/25/09 6:25am] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |
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Naturally, I made a collection of the Chaos And Disorder tracks that I can stand listening to:
Ultimate Chaos And Disorder: 1. Chaos And Disorder (4:13) 2. I Like It There (3:15) – from Chaos And Disorder 3. Dinner With Delores (2:46) – from Chaos And Disorder 4. The Same December (3:24) – from Chaos And Disorder 5. Right The Wrong (4:42) 6. Zannalee (2:51) 7. Empty Room (3:22) 8. Somebody’s Somebody (4:43) – from Emancipation 9. New World (3:43) – from Emancipation 10. Sarah (2:53) – from The Vault… Old Friends 4 Sale 11. Into The Light (2:46) – from Chaos And Disorder 12. I Will (3:36) – from Chaos And Disorder 13. It’s About That Walk (4:26) – from The Vault… Old Friends 4 Sale 14. Calhoun Square (4:46) – from Crystal Ball Live: 15. Chaos And Disorder (4:05) – Los Angeles, 28/3-09 16. I Like It There (3:24) – Los Angeles, 28/3-09 17. Zannalee (2:34) – Paisley Park, 26/8-95 18. Empty Room (4:49) – Los Angeles, 28/3-09 19. Calhoun Square (6:16) – London, 29/8-07 20. Empty Room (2002 Rehearsal) (4:01) – from C-NOTE ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |
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one of my top 5 favourite Prince albums. Thanks SciFi! | |
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These 6 songs are good - or even great, imo:
1. Chaos And Disorder (4:20) 2. I Like It There (3:15) 3. Dinner With Delores (2:46) 4. The Same December (3:24) 5. Right The Wrong (4:39) 6. Zannalee (2:43) 7. I Rock, Therefore I Am (6:15) 8. Into The Light (2:46) 9. I Will (3:36) 10. Dig U Better Dead (4:00) 11. Had U (1:26) the rest of the songs are average, or forgettable... ![]() the cover artwork had a "Fuck you" attitude towards WB, didn't it...? ![]() ![]() ^ A real ugly front cover pic, the 1999 vinyl album with the eye label smashed to pieces. But I like those videos to Dinner With Delores and The Same December, those songs should have been minor hits. Zannalee could have been a hit too, imo. [Edited 9/25/09 6:57am] [Edited 9/25/09 6:57am] Prince 4Ever. ![]() | |
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thank u so much! I like video for The Same December. I Like it there is boring, very boring and Dinner with Delores ...hmmm beautiful Prince but stupid storyline.
and what's about cd? I like Rosie's voice in songs, but rap NO NO NO! If U're lookin' 4 somebody, who'll turn your bad day into one long night of fun, look no further
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I think 'I Like It There' video was shot late 95/early 96 as the golden statues in the video were the ones from Glam Slam LA which closed late 95. 3121... Don't U Wanna Come? | |
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rlittler81 said: I think 'I Like It There' video was shot late 95/early 96 as the golden statues in the video were the ones from Glam Slam LA which closed late 95.
late 95? I think 1996 ![]() If U're lookin' 4 somebody, who'll turn your bad day into one long night of fun, look no further
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rlittler81 said: I think 'I Like It There' video was shot late 95/early 96 as the golden statues in the video were the ones from Glam Slam LA which closed late 95.
Didn't they have those golden statues in November 1994? I don't know. I've never been there. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |
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A general observation:
Prince really appeared very 'restless' in that period (1993 - 1995). The everchanging tracklists of the Come, The Gold Experience and Chaos and Disorders albums, the delay of the official release of the Gold Experience, the dispute with WB, quite some turmoil going on there... | |
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I have been absent from these threads because of a deadline I have to make, I will make my cameo very soon to contribute. The early 90s was absolutely an exciting time to be a Prince fan. C&D comes very close to making my top 5 ![]() 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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LaAmi said: rlittler81 said: I think 'I Like It There' video was shot late 95/early 96 as the golden statues in the video were the ones from Glam Slam LA which closed late 95.
late 95? I think 1996 ![]() Glam Slam LA closed 20th August 1995 according to the vault. 3121... Don't U Wanna Come? | |
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From NPG Issue #1
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scififilmnerd said: In 2007, Prince performed Calhoun Square, Chaos And Disorder, I Like It There and Empty Room at a memorable rock aftershow in London, 29 August. In 2009, Prince reunited with NPG members Sonny Thompson and Michael Bland for a legendary rock concert in Los Angeles, 28 March. They performed Chaos And Disorder, I Like It There and Empty Room, not to mention the classic Peach from Come, taking the audience back to happier times – for the fans, if not for Prince.
As good as the London rock show is, I still think the L.A. one is better simply because with Michael B. and Sonny T. playing, it's like... the real deal. Like, they play on the original recordings. And frankly, I haven't cared about any NPG line-up since the REAL NPG was disbanded in 1996. ![]() Is that just me? Please discuss. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |
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Thanks for the info. I love Chaos. What album are you doing next? Emancipation? | |
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German "t.a.f.k.a.p." promo of Chaos And Disorder.
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nice job, as always. Had this album been fleshed out w/ the tracks that ended up on The Vault, and treated seriously as a major release, it might have done well. There are a few really stellar tracks, especially The Same December and Into The Light/I Will (which I always segue together as one track.) * * *
Prince's Classic Finally Expanded The Deluxe 'Purple Rain' Reissue http://www.popmatters.com...n-reissue/ | |
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From Uptown #23 via The Dawn website
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ah... there it is! really nice to have the chapter closed, I never noticed on the front that that was a 1999 record that got smashed! I'm going to listen to C&D right away. Thanks for all your efforts! | |
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Fantastic as ever SciFi
C&D still one of my favourite albums - despite it's flaws - just wish we knew more about earlier configurations.. I've looked a few old magazines for info - just stratched the surface really but..in The Continental issue #14 published in June 1996 it states that Prince in an interview in El Pais, circa Dec 1994 gave the journalist a copy of a cassette containing Dolphin and Dinner with Delores, saying he liked the songs and wanted to release them as a single??? How true this is - I couldn't say?? Also, the acoustic album Heart - is it not logical to assume that this transformed itself into The Truth? We know album names and configurations can change many times before their release??? | |
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purpleworld said: What album are you doing next? Emancipation?
I have no plans for further articles at this time. Sorry. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |
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KAB said: in The Continental issue #14 published in June 1996 it states that Prince in an interview in El Pais, circa Dec 1994 gave the journalist a copy of a cassette containing Dolphin and Dinner with Delores, saying he liked the songs and wanted to release them as a single??? How true this is - I couldn't say??
In that interview, the Spanish journalist is allowed to listen to Dolphin and Gold. (I think I've told you this before...?) ![]() KAB said: Also, the acoustic album Heart - is it not logical to assume that this transformed itself into The Truth?
I think so, too. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |
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I've said this before but Chaos And Disorder was the first Prince album I bought and it will always be special to me for that reason. It was great to learn a bit more about it's development and the changes that it went through before it was eventually released. I really like "Dinner With Delores" so I'm glad that the album was tinkered with but it really could have been a killer rock album if Prince had incorporated all of his best stray rock tracks from the '93-'96 era and released them as an album. If you drop tracks like "I Rock, Therefore I Am" and "Dig U Better Dead" and include songs like "Empty Room," "Da Bang" and "Calhoun Square" I think you would end up with his best ever rock album. | |
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rialb said: it really could have been a killer rock album if Prince had incorporated all of his best stray rock tracks from the '93-'96 era and released them as an album. If you drop tracks like "I Rock, Therefore I Am" and "Dig U Better Dead" and include songs like "Empty Room," "Da Bang" and "Calhoun Square" I think you would end up with his best ever rock album.
I agree, but Da Bang is an Emancipation era track. It was recorded after the completion of Chaos And Disorder, in Los Angeles somewhere between 20-27 May 1996. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |
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scififilmnerd said: Release of Chaos And Disorder On 26 April 1996, ![]() ![]() ![]() Critical reaction Most critics lambasted Chaos And Disorder. “Tucked inside the cover of his latest platter is a warning that the LP was “originally intended 4 private use only”,” wrote Jim Farber of NY Daily News. “Translation: “Songs this junky should've never made it out of the studio. But since I can't stand my record company, and I couldn't care less about my fans, I put them out anyway - the better to give Warners one last reason to be sorry they ever crossed me.”” “Chaos & Disorder appears to be an uninspired collection of warmed-over jams, sketches, snatches and leftovers,” wrote Jim Walsh in St. Paul Pioneer Press. “Has there ever been a more forgettable Prince single than Dinner With Delores? (…) But the biggest mystery is why would an artist so proud, and so fiercely competitive and trailblazing, release such a mediocre work?” “Chaos and Disorder is a vault-clearing throw-together meant to fulfill a contract,” said Entertainment Weekly. “No longer content to wallow in a persecution complex, ![]() “Maybe he was just saving the good stuff for his new three-disc set, Emancipation,” pondered Rolling Stone Online. “If so, the die-hard fans got hosed. And they’re not the ones who made him a slave.” On the positive side, some reviewers concluded that “for a slapped-together throwaway, it’s not bad” (Minneapolis Star-Tribune), “these are hardly the throwaway outtakes some artists use to wrap up a contract” (The News-Leader, Springfield, MO) and “you’d do well to remember that the worst throwaway crap from TAFKAP outshines the vast majority of other current artists’ most inspired efforts.” (Rebecca Eisenberg, Addicted To Noise.) I never understood the vehemence directed at Chaos And Disorder. I can see how after The Gold Experience that people would be disappointed and I also acknowledge that the album is hardly full of hit singles but is it really "garbage?" For me, the first side "Chaos And Disorder"-"Zannalee" is terrific. Side two does lose a little steam but tracks like "Into The Light/I Will" and "Had U" are pretty good and even the lesser tracks ("I Rock, Therefore I Am" and "Dig U Better Dead") have some redeeming qualities. I guess if you are not a fan of Prince's rock music I can understand why you would not like this album but for me, as a huge fan of Prince's rock music, I love it. | |
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