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Thread started 06/23/09 12:17pm

NastradumasKid

PURPLE RAIN, HOW WOULD YOU HAVE MADE IT BETTER? NSFW

Yeah, Yeah, I know some simpleton is gonna say "This movie was awesome and you need to stfu Blah, Blah, Blah"

Whatever, rolleyes lol

Even though I love this movie to death, even I admit it could have went a better direction and you know it.



Bad Acting
Editing errors
Geographical errors
Plot Holes
You Name it. wink

In my opinion, here's what would make PR better:

1) The rushing into a relationship between Prince & Apollonia it's just weird.

2) Am I the only one who was going WTF when the police had a chalk drawing of Prince's father's body despite the fact that he was still alive after he shot himself.

3) Needed a better director.

4) Better editing job- There were some very obivious editing flaws in this move that you can that the movie was never quite finished

5) As I said before, I am the only one who thought it was fucked up that Prince dedicated the song Purple Rain to his mentally unstabled, abusive father?

6) Get rid of the theme of slapping people.
There's more I could say but I rather here it from someone else.
[Edited 6/23/09 12:54pm]
[Edited 6/24/09 12:15pm]
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Reply #1 posted 06/23/09 12:36pm

endymion

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Slightly more Appollonia Boobage thumbs up!
[Edited 6/23/09 12:36pm]
What you don't remember never happened
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Reply #2 posted 06/23/09 12:39pm

nyse

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not cut out the fight scene....
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Reply #3 posted 06/23/09 12:42pm

NastradumasKid

endymion said:

Slightly more Appollonia Boobage thumbs up!
[Edited 6/23/09 12:36pm]



How about no Apollonia altogether? thumbs up!
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Reply #4 posted 06/23/09 12:42pm

NastradumasKid

nyse said:

not cut out the fight scene....



doh! i forgot about that.
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Reply #5 posted 06/23/09 12:45pm

shonenjoe

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I think this movie is moderately endearing for its flaws.

Its barely a "good" movie.

Pros:
Fun to watch
Musical performances kick ass and (most importantly) benefit the story.
Some decent camera work.

Cons:
The plot is almost incoherent.
Sub-plots aren't developed.
Acting and dialogue's pretty bad.
Editing is rough.

How to make it better?
Develop all of the characters more effectively. Vanity > Apollonia. Really make the competition of the bands focus more defined. Maybe make it a little shorter.
Re-write it, while retaining the great performances.
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Reply #6 posted 06/23/09 12:48pm

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the barn scene should had been in the movie, Prince and Apollonia having sex,

otherwise it's very enjoyable movie,

I LOVE it..... love2
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Reply #7 posted 06/23/09 12:53pm

NastradumasKid

thedance said:

the barn scene should had been in the movie, Prince and Apollonia having sex,

otherwise it's very enjoyable movie,

I LOVE it..... love2


Should have kept the original script.

I remember reading the ORIGINAL script of Purple Rain it was alot darker, but also better then the final one. However, I didn't like the "rape scene", that was a little too extreme. confused
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Reply #8 posted 06/23/09 1:04pm

NouveauDance

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Probably not too much. It's pretty concise, expanding any side plots like the dynamic of the band or Jill's interest in The Kid might've just slowed down the pace of the movie.
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Reply #9 posted 06/23/09 1:06pm

NastradumasKid

NouveauDance said:

Probably not too much. It's pretty concise, expanding any side plots like the dynamic of the band or Jill's interest in The Kid might've just slowed down the pace of the movie.


True, but they could have replace those undeveloped subplot with those and that would have been good.
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Reply #10 posted 06/23/09 1:07pm

Imago

acid
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Reply #11 posted 06/23/09 1:08pm

NastradumasKid

Imago said:

acid


lol

Imago be serious. hmph!

Anyway, the film itself look like someone was on drugs came up with it.
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Reply #12 posted 06/23/09 1:18pm

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I think it's hilarious that a song that Prince wrote from a little snip of instrumental music and apparently never rehearsed with the band can be so perfectly stunning, complete with harmony vocals and everything. Now THAT's improvisation lol
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Reply #13 posted 06/23/09 1:36pm

NastradumasKid

NoVideo said:

I think it's hilarious that a song that Prince wrote from a little snip of instrumental music and apparently never rehearsed with the band can be so perfectly stunning, complete with harmony vocals and everything. Now THAT's improvisation lol



I love how he was "practicing" the song on the piano. rolleyes lol
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Reply #14 posted 06/23/09 2:46pm

Lovesymbol2

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someone with a better wig and a more realistic look alike to prince on the scene at lake minnetonka when the stuntman does the donut burnout
[Edited 6/23/09 14:47pm]
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Reply #15 posted 06/23/09 2:51pm

NastradumasKid

Lovesymbol2 said:

someone with a better wig and a more realistic look alike to prince on the scene at lake minnetonka when the stuntman does the donut burnout
[Edited 6/23/09 14:47pm]



Stunt double? hmm There was a fucking stunt double?! What the hell, I don't remember seeing that.
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Reply #16 posted 06/23/09 2:57pm

PurpleMedley12
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NastradumasKid said:

thedance said:

the barn scene should had been in the movie, Prince and Apollonia having sex,

otherwise it's very enjoyable movie,

I LOVE it..... love2


Should have kept the original script.

I remember reading the ORIGINAL script of Purple Rain it was alot darker, but also better then the final one. However, I didn't like the "rape scene", that was a little too extreme. confused

He lashes out suddenly, SMASHES it from
her grip. She SCREAMS wildly, SLAPS him
hard across the face. He stands shocked
a moment, his rage surging within him,
smashing through every safety valve he's
acquired in his life. He BACKHANDS her
savagely across the jaw.

She hits the ground like a rag doll. He
looks at her curiously, bends over her -
- she sucker-punches him with everything
she's got! He SCREAMS in rage and grabs
her hands as they flail about his face.
He squeezes her fingers back while the
tears stream down her cheeks and her
mouth forms a silent "ow"! She bares
her teeth angrily and he sucks at her
mouth, biting and kissing her in a fever
pitch.

She kicks at him violently, hot tears
streaming down her cheeks. He jams his
leg between hers, rubs it firmly against
her bottom. She struggles helplessly
against him as he covers her breasts,
her stomach, her thighs with his lips.
Quick breaths escape from her -- her
breathing begins to race...

He snaps her panties in two, pulls them
from between her legs. She spreads
herself as he releases his pants. She
squeezes his buttocks, pulls him toward
her -- but Prince resists her coldly,
regards her with contempt. Suddenly he
flips her onto her stomach, forces her
to stand painfully on her knees. He
rubs his hand between her buttocks, then
thrusts into her painfully, driving
himself to the very depths of her...

...but she stifles a cry, arches her
back, and meets his thrusts fiercely,
moving quicker and quicker, banging her
buttocks against his thighs again and
again. She's drawing from him now,
turning the humiliation around,
obtaining all that she needs and
desires. He's powerless -- her thrusts
set the pace. She rises, Prince still
inside her and tugs on him rapidly,
causing him to ejaculate suddenly,
drawing from him a sharp and sudden
cry...

She moves away, draws her coat tightly
about her, fixes him with a contemptuous
look--

omg .....ya think?
[Edited 6/23/09 14:58pm]
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Reply #17 posted 06/23/09 3:04pm

therat

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make them all take more acting lessons and cut out that "What do yooooou dream about" line or make her say it better. Also cast a black woman to play his mother.
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Reply #18 posted 06/23/09 3:26pm

NastradumasKid

PurpleMedley122 said:

NastradumasKid said:



Should have kept the original script.

I remember reading the ORIGINAL script of Purple Rain it was alot darker, but also better then the final one. However, I didn't like the "rape scene", that was a little too extreme. confused

He lashes out suddenly, SMASHES it from
her grip. She SCREAMS wildly, SLAPS him
hard across the face. He stands shocked
a moment, his rage surging within him,
smashing through every safety valve he's
acquired in his life. He BACKHANDS her
savagely across the jaw.

She hits the ground like a rag doll. He
looks at her curiously, bends over her -
- she sucker-punches him with everything
she's got! He SCREAMS in rage and grabs
her hands as they flail about his face.
He squeezes her fingers back while the
tears stream down her cheeks and her
mouth forms a silent "ow"! She bares
her teeth angrily and he sucks at her
mouth, biting and kissing her in a fever
pitch.

She kicks at him violently, hot tears
streaming down her cheeks. He jams his
leg between hers, rubs it firmly against
her bottom. She struggles helplessly
against him as he covers her breasts,
her stomach, her thighs with his lips.
Quick breaths escape from her -- her
breathing begins to race...

He snaps her panties in two, pulls them
from between her legs. She spreads
herself as he releases his pants. She
squeezes his buttocks, pulls him toward
her -- but Prince resists her coldly,
regards her with contempt. Suddenly he
flips her onto her stomach, forces her
to stand painfully on her knees. He
rubs his hand between her buttocks, then
thrusts into her painfully, driving
himself to the very depths of her...

...but she stifles a cry, arches her
back, and meets his thrusts fiercely,
moving quicker and quicker, banging her
buttocks against his thighs again and
again. She's drawing from him now,
turning the humiliation around,
obtaining all that she needs and
desires. He's powerless -- her thrusts
set the pace. She rises, Prince still
inside her and tugs on him rapidly,
causing him to ejaculate suddenly,
drawing from him a sharp and sudden
cry...

She moves away, draws her coat tightly
about her, fixes him with a contemptuous
look--

omg .....ya think?
[Edited 6/23/09 14:58pm]


omg disbelief anal rape.
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Reply #19 posted 06/23/09 3:26pm

NastradumasKid

therat said:

make them all take more acting lessons and cut out that "What do yooooou dream about" line or make her say it better. Also cast a black woman to play his mother.



eek I hate that line so much it's so lame.
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Reply #20 posted 06/23/09 3:30pm

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Lovesymbol2 said:

someone with a better wig and a more realistic look alike to prince on the scene at lake minnetonka when the stuntman does the donut burnout
[Edited 6/23/09 14:47pm]

On the wig topic...Appolonia gets out of the water, her hair is wet...voila! Now it's dry and curly on the bike!
[Edited 6/23/09 15:31pm]
If it breaks when it bends, U better not put it in!
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Reply #21 posted 06/23/09 3:33pm

NastradumasKid

benjaminira said:

Lovesymbol2 said:

someone with a better wig and a more realistic look alike to prince on the scene at lake minnetonka when the stuntman does the donut burnout
[Edited 6/23/09 14:47pm]

On the wig topic...Apoloonia gets out of the water, her hair is wet...voila! Now it's dry and curly on the bike!



falloff One of the many editing flaws in this movie. Another thing, No use of lines with double means like "Don't get my seat all wet"..... and then getting a kiss for that WTF?
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Reply #22 posted 06/23/09 4:19pm

Huggiebear

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Many things could improve it

Vanity should have stayed on, she would have been better than Apples and think the lovemaking would have been much more explosive.
Get Billy out of that dodgy ass Track Suit and hideous glasses (They were tacky by 1984, the outfit is more 1977 than 1984)
Given Morris even more sassafras and independence (I'm the only star in this town)
Make Prince a bit easier going with the Revolution, especially Mark, that cat just got treated like shit in the movie.
Made both of the Kids parents black instead of just one, what was he thinking, what ever happened to I am black and proud.
Got rid of the campy motorcycle
Made movie longer, perhaps Daddy could have died.
Filmed more scnes in the daytime, its just about all night, you think they live in Norway in December.

Finally Hire a cast of professional actors
So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time
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Reply #23 posted 06/23/09 4:32pm

DesireeNevermi
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NastradumasKid said:

Yeah, Yeah, I know some simpleton is gonna say "This movie was awesome and you need to stfu Blah, Blah, Blah"

Whatever, rolleyes lol

Even though I love this movie to death, even I admit it could have went a better direction and you know it.



Bad Acting
Editing errors
Geographical errors
Plot Holes
You Name it. wink

In my opinion, here's what would make PR better:

1) The rushing into a relationship between Prince & Apollonia it's just weird.

2) Am I the only one who was going WTF when the police had a chalk drawing of Prince's father's body despite the fact that he was still alive after he shot himself.

3) Needed a better director.

4) Better editing job- There were some very obivious editing flaws in this move that you can that the movie was never quite finished

5) As I said before, I am the only one who thought it was fucked up that Prince dedicated the song Purple Rain to his mentally unstabled, abusive father?

6) Get rid of the theme of slapping people.
There's more I could say but I rather here it from someone else.
[Edited 6/23/09 12:54pm]



falloff


1) its the 80s, easy love is pretty much the norm

2) they had to do chalk drawing cuz of the nature of the crime and the uncertainty of whether he'd live or die.


you wanna talk fucked up?

1) the cop who patted the Kid on the knee. His hand was bigger than Princey's whole leg. lol

2) Apples don't got money for a cab and can barely pay her rent but she gonna buy the kid that fancy ass guitar rolleyes save yo money Ho


3) that body double on the bike had me rolling. falloff so obvious


4) Susan and Mark never talked. NOT ONCE!


5) I always wondered if it hurt that girl to get thrown in the dumpster. hmmm she hit it kinda hard.

6) the music during the end credits was all choppy. WTF?

i can think of more...give me a minute LOL
[Edited 6/23/09 16:33pm]
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Reply #24 posted 06/23/09 4:38pm

rudedog

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NastradumasKid said:



1) The rushing into a relationship between Prince & Apollonia it's just weird.



What relationship? They saw each other, fucked, she gave him a guitar and then he slapped her. I really wouldn't call that a relationship.

I've had many o' relationships that were whirl-wind romances, though we liked the slapping lol oh and I never got a guitar, but I got an HD TV and a trip to Vegas and stay at Mandalay Bay! Anyways, point is, it can happen smile
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Reply #25 posted 06/23/09 4:43pm

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rudedog said:

NastradumasKid said:



1) The rushing into a relationship between Prince & Apollonia it's just weird.



What relationship? They saw each other, fucked, she gave him a guitar and then he slapped her. I really wouldn't call that a relationship.


I've had many o' relationships that were whirl-wind romances, though we liked the slapping lol oh and I never got a guitar, but I got an HD TV and a trip to Vegas and stay at Mandalay Bay! Anyways, point is, it can happen smile



spit I believe there was some conversating in between the fucking and slapping. and he gave her some cheap jewelry too. and a bath in the begining. dirty bath water but still a bath.
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Reply #26 posted 06/23/09 4:47pm

NastradumasKid

Huggiebear said:

Many things could improve it

Vanity should have stayed on, she would have been better than Apples and think the lovemaking would have been much more explosive.
Get Billy out of that dodgy ass Track Suit and hideous glasses (They were tacky by 1984, the outfit is more 1977 than 1984)
Given Morris even more sassafras and independence (I'm the only star in this town)
Make Prince a bit easier going with the Revolution, especially Mark, that cat just got treated like shit in the movie.
Made both of the Kids parents black instead of just one, what was he thinking, what ever happened to I am black and proud.
Got rid of the campy motorcycle
Made movie longer, perhaps Daddy could have died.
Filmed more scnes in the daytime, its just about all night, you think they live in Norway in December.

Finally Hire a cast of professional actors


yeah, why was his mom italtian anyway? Like you, i was seriuosly hoping they did that long before the movie was over.

BTW, how about not making prince turn in to a schizo? That's so tacky and creepy.
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Reply #27 posted 06/23/09 4:50pm

NastradumasKid

DesireeNevermind said:

NastradumasKid said:

Yeah, Yeah, I know some simpleton is gonna say "This movie was awesome and you need to stfu Blah, Blah, Blah"

Whatever, rolleyes lol

Even though I love this movie to death, even I admit it could have went a better direction and you know it.



Bad Acting
Editing errors
Geographical errors
Plot Holes
You Name it. wink

In my opinion, here's what would make PR better:

1) The rushing into a relationship between Prince & Apollonia it's just weird.

2) Am I the only one who was going WTF when the police had a chalk drawing of Prince's father's body despite the fact that he was still alive after he shot himself.

3) Needed a better director.

4) Better editing job- There were some very obivious editing flaws in this move that you can that the movie was never quite finished

5) As I said before, I am the only one who thought it was fucked up that Prince dedicated the song Purple Rain to his mentally unstabled, abusive father?

6) Get rid of the theme of slapping people.
There's more I could say but I rather here it from someone else.
[Edited 6/23/09 12:54pm]



falloff


1) its the 80s, easy love is pretty much the norm

2) they had to do chalk drawing cuz of the nature of the crime and the uncertainty of whether he'd live or die.


you wanna talk fucked up?

1) the cop who patted the Kid on the knee. His hand was bigger than Princey's whole leg. lol

2) Apples don't got money for a cab and can barely pay her rent but she gonna buy the kid that fancy ass guitar rolleyes save yo money Ho


3) that body double on the bike had me rolling. falloff so obvious


4) Susan and Mark never talked. NOT ONCE!


5) I always wondered if it hurt that girl to get thrown in the dumpster. hmmm she hit it kinda hard.

6) the music during the end credits was all choppy. WTF?

i can think of more...give me a minute LOL
[Edited 6/23/09 16:33pm]


Cheap Tramp! lol
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Reply #28 posted 06/23/09 4:50pm

DesireeNevermi
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come out and admit on film that lisa and wendy was girlfriends


cover up lisa's saggy tits. man she was just a hangin'. how low can u go.



given Jesse some more lines



given Dez a second spot on stage



showed more of Big Chick. His presence alone was impressive. biggrin
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Reply #29 posted 06/23/09 4:52pm

pricy503

Add a scene with Electric Intercourse in it.
nice guy.
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