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Reply #60 posted 06/24/09 9:35am

Jeffiner

You couldn't make Purple Rain better.. it is what it is, the flaws are part of it's charm. It wasn't meant to be Shawshank Redemption, it's a film about the music, and captures and mirrors the club scene, and era perfectly...
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Reply #61 posted 06/24/09 9:36am

Jeffiner

pricy503 said:

Add a scene with Electric Intercourse in it.


Well, ok... I'd agree with THAT! lol and seeing more of Brown Mark... wink
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Reply #62 posted 06/24/09 9:39am

OldFriends4Sal
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NastradumasKid said:

Dayclear said:

Why mess with perfection?



There's nothing perfect about it that's why.



Perfect movies tend to be boring

Any Star Wars fans?
Jedi Master Yoda in SW:the Empire Strikes Back was a puppet
Jedi Master Yoda in SW: the Phantom Menace was a digital character(?)
and the fans hated the 2nd one, he was too real. so they went back to the puppet

For me the more digitally mastered and high grade tech the less interesting the movies can be,
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Reply #63 posted 06/24/09 9:40am

DesireeNevermi
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why do you always think there's somebody else? cry
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Reply #64 posted 06/24/09 9:41am

DesireeNevermi
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I'm the only star in this town! pimp
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Reply #65 posted 06/24/09 9:42am

OldFriends4Sal
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NouveauDance said:

Probably not too much. It's pretty concise, expanding any side plots like the dynamic of the band or Jill's interest in The Kid might've just slowed down the pace of the movie.



I agree, added the Jill Jones:Wendesday piece might have been enough to explain, and we would have gotten another song

What you said is good because some of the best movies make you want more or ask questions about the characters
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Reply #66 posted 06/24/09 9:45am

MantuaPharoah

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1. The dad should have shot Prince first, and then turned the gun on himself.

2. Tony M. was just an extra dancing in the club. He should have had a rap scene.

3. Jill Jones should have beaten Apollonia's ass and gotten the lead. Jill Jones 6.

4. In an effort for political correctness, Morris should have called Prince a "long haired same-sex oriented homo sapien", rather than a long-haired faggot.

5. Apollonia should have stabbed Prince after he slapped her.
The public is squeezin' you kiddo. You'd better kick ass on your next album or else!
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Reply #67 posted 06/24/09 9:45am

Graycap23

1984 perfection.
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Reply #68 posted 06/24/09 9:48am

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MantuaPharoah said:

1. The dad should have shot Prince first, and then turned the gun on himself.

2. Tony M. was just an extra dancing in the club. He should have had a rap scene.

3. Jill Jones should have beaten Apollonia's ass and gotten the lead. Jill Jones 6.

4. In an effort for political correctness, Morris should have called Prince a "long haired same-sex oriented homo sapien", rather than a long-haired faggot.

5. Apollonia should have stabbed Prince after he slapped her.



doh! biggrin
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Reply #69 posted 06/24/09 9:48am

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NastradumasKid said:Bad Acting
Editing errors
Geographical errors
Plot Holes
You Name it.

In my opinion, here's what would make PR better:

1) The rushing into a relationship between Prince & Apollonia it's just weird.

Why, it's not 2009 with online dating. It's young love, who hasn't been struck by someones beauty or talent and went after them. That's passion...That's what's explain in the song Electric Intercourse

2) Am I the only one who was going WTF when the police had a chalk drawing of Prince's father's body despite the fact that he was still alive after he shot himself.

I didn't question it, because it was a 'violent' crime, the man could have died

3) Needed a better director.

Perfect director, he understood Prince's UPTOWN/EROTIC CITY vision
"They're exaggerations or minimizations developed to fit a story that never happened, yet, in a strange way, a story that is their reality.

To me, Prince & the Times entire thing is visual. The microcosm they've developed 4 themselves was a movie begging to be made."

There's music... that means there's night, there's bars, there are alley's. All of a sudden, a story begins to emerge."

-Albert Magnoli

4) Better editing job- There were some very obivious editing flaws in this move that you can that the movie was never quite finished

Yeah just a bit, but I didn't have time looking for that, to much color and music happening ... Dude we were living Purple Rain... exciting year

5) As I said before, I am the only one who thought it was fucked up that Prince dedicated the song Purple Rain to his mentally unstabled, abusive father?

NO, why not? It's a song about troubled relationships, and he obviously loves his parents

6) Get rid of the theme of slapping people.
There's more I could say but I rather here it from someone else.
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Reply #70 posted 06/24/09 9:50am

NastradumasKid

MantuaPharoah said:

1. The dad should have shot Prince first, and then turned the gun on himself.

2. Tony M. was just an extra dancing in the club. He should have had a rap scene.

3. Jill Jones should have beaten Apollonia's ass and gotten the lead. Jill Jones 6.

4. In an effort for political correctness, Morris should have called Prince a "long haired same-sex oriented homo sapien", rather than a long-haired faggot.

5. Apollonia should have stabbed Prince after he slapped her.



lol That's crazy. Apollonia stabbing Prince? That would be very fucked up. lol
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Reply #71 posted 06/24/09 9:53am

NastradumasKid

OldFriends4Sale said:

NastradumasKid said:Bad Acting
Editing errors
Geographical errors
Plot Holes
You Name it.

In my opinion, here's what would make PR better:

1) The rushing into a relationship between Prince & Apollonia it's just weird.

Why, it's not 2009 with online dating. It's young love, who hasn't been struck by someones beauty or talent and went after them. That's passion...That's what's explain in the song Electric Intercourse

2) Am I the only one who was going WTF when the police had a chalk drawing of Prince's father's body despite the fact that he was still alive after he shot himself.

I didn't question it, because it was a 'violent' crime, the man could have died

3) Needed a better director.

Perfect director, he understood Prince's UPTOWN/EROTIC CITY vision
"They're exaggerations or minimizations developed to fit a story that never happened, yet, in a strange way, a story that is their reality.

To me, Prince & the Times entire thing is visual. The microcosm they've developed 4 themselves was a movie begging to be made."

There's music... that means there's night, there's bars, there are alley's. All of a sudden, a story begins to emerge."

-Albert Magnoli

4) Better editing job- There were some very obivious editing flaws in this move that you can that the movie was never quite finished

Yeah just a bit, but I didn't have time looking for that, to much color and music happening ... Dude we were living Purple Rain... exciting year

5) As I said before, I am the only one who thought it was fucked up that Prince dedicated the song Purple Rain to his mentally unstabled, abusive father?

NO, why not? It's a song about troubled relationships, and he obviously loves his parents

6) Get rid of the theme of slapping people.
There's more I could say but I rather here it from someone else.


Don't agree, but that's cool.
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Reply #72 posted 06/24/09 9:56am

Jeffiner

MantuaPharoah said:

1. The dad should have shot Prince first, and then turned the gun on himself.

2. Tony M. was just an extra dancing in the club. He should have had a rap scene.

3. Jill Jones should have beaten Apollonia's ass and gotten the lead. Jill Jones 6.

4. In an effort for political correctness, Morris should have called Prince a "long haired same-sex oriented homo sapien", rather than a long-haired faggot.

5. Apollonia should have stabbed Prince after he slapped her.


lol If you watch the 20th Anniversary disc, Prince wanted ALL that and MORE, apparently he'd have had just about everyone killed off..! Not sure if that included himself though.. hmmm
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Reply #73 posted 06/24/09 9:59am

NastradumasKid

Jeffiner said:

MantuaPharoah said:

1. The dad should have shot Prince first, and then turned the gun on himself.

2. Tony M. was just an extra dancing in the club. He should have had a rap scene.

3. Jill Jones should have beaten Apollonia's ass and gotten the lead. Jill Jones 6.

4. In an effort for political correctness, Morris should have called Prince a "long haired same-sex oriented homo sapien", rather than a long-haired faggot.

5. Apollonia should have stabbed Prince after he slapped her.


lol If you watch the 20th Anniversary disc, Prince wanted ALL that and MORE, apparently he'd have had just about everyone killed off..! Not sure if that included himself though.. hmmm



Wait a minute? eyepop He wanted his parents, Apollonia, Jerome, and Morris to die? DAMN... confused
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Reply #74 posted 06/24/09 10:00am

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NastradumasKid said:

Jeffiner said:


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lol If you watch the 20th Anniversary disc, Prince wanted ALL that and MORE, apparently he'd have had just about everyone killed off..! Not sure if that included himself though.. hmmm



Wait a minute? eyepop He wanted his parents, Apollonia, Jerome, and Morris to die? DAMN... confused



cuz he violent! johnwoo
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Reply #75 posted 06/24/09 10:04am

NastradumasKid

DesireeNevermind said:

NastradumasKid said:




Wait a minute? eyepop He wanted his parents, Apollonia, Jerome, and Morris to die? DAMN... confused



cuz he violent! johnwoo


Apollonia- Raped and stabbed to death

Dad- Hung himself

Mom- Beaten to death

Morris- Hit by a car

Jerome- Went to Prison and became someone's bitch and died of AIDS

J/K
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Reply #76 posted 06/24/09 10:08am

Jeffiner

NastradumasKid said:

DesireeNevermind said:




cuz he violent! johnwoo


Apollonia- Raped and stabbed to death

Dad- Hung himself

Mom- Beaten to death

Morris- Hit by a car

Jerome- Went to Prison and became someone's bitch and died of AIDS

J/K


lol nod except for Jerome, he needed him for UTCM wink
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Reply #77 posted 06/24/09 10:12am

NastradumasKid

Jeffiner said:

NastradumasKid said:



Apollonia- Raped and stabbed to death

Dad- Hung himself

Mom- Beaten to death

Morris- Hit by a car

Jerome- Went to Prison and became someone's bitch and died of AIDS

J/K


lol nod except for Jerome, he needed him for UTCM wink


You're right, he needs to live.
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Reply #78 posted 06/24/09 10:16am

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therat said:

make them all take more acting lessons and cut out that "What do yooooou dream about" line or make her say it better. Also cast a black woman to play his mother.



Too perfect acting would have spoiled especially since they(everyone but the mother & father) were not actors

I liked the line ... I don't think I'm mistaken but that was the original title Prince wanted when writing in his purple notebook. DREAMs



Where do U come from?
New Orleans
What are U doing here?
I heard about the club, and thought I'd try my luck
You're in the business?
Well... I'm a Singer
Oh
1st Avenue is really famous
A lot of bands make it after playing there
It must be exciting
Is that what turns you on?
What do you mean?
Making It
It would be nice 4 a change
It's all I dream about
And U?
What do U dream about?



Why did they have to cast a black woman? I think the interracial marriage somehow worked. And I don't think people focused on the race as much as they would have if both parents were 'black' it would have come across as too stereotypical..
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Reply #79 posted 06/24/09 10:17am

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JEROME SAID...

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Reply #80 posted 06/24/09 10:27am

toy4him

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DesireeNevermind said:

why do you always think there's somebody else? cry


That has to be the oddest sequence in moviedom, just after the hook "Beautiful Ones. The Kid unlocks his motorcycle and Apollonia is there in the shadows waiting. The Kid smiles coyly, he knew she'd be there, and he has "something to show her (love that line by the way). After a few lines the following is said:
Apollonia: "Why do you always think there's someone else?"
The Kid: "Well let's start with the fact that you came to the club with Morris and you're leaving with me."
Apollonia: "Oh yeah, I forgot that part, thanks for reminding me." "What's your name again?"
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Reply #81 posted 06/24/09 10:29am

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NastradumasKid said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

NastradumasKid said:Bad Acting
Editing errors
Geographical errors
Plot Holes
You Name it.

In my opinion, here's what would make PR better:

1) The rushing into a relationship between Prince & Apollonia it's just weird.

Why, it's not 2009 with online dating. It's young love, who hasn't been struck by someones beauty or talent and went after them. That's passion...That's what's explain in the song Electric Intercourse

2) Am I the only one who was going WTF when the police had a chalk drawing of Prince's father's body despite the fact that he was still alive after he shot himself.

I didn't question it, because it was a 'violent' crime, the man could have died

3) Needed a better director.

Perfect director, he understood Prince's UPTOWN/EROTIC CITY vision

"They're exaggerations or minimizations developed to fit a story that never happened, yet, in a strange way, a story that is their reality.
To me, Prince & the Times entire thing is visual. The microcosm they've developed 4 themselves was a movie begging to be made."
There's music... that means there's night, there's bars, there are alley's. All of a sudden, a story begins to emerge."

-Albert Magnoli

4) Better editing job- There were some very obivious editing flaws in this move that you can that the movie was never quite finished

Yeah just a bit, but I didn't have time looking for that, to much color and music happening ... Dude we were living Purple Rain... exciting year

5) As I said before, I am the only one who thought it was fucked up that Prince dedicated the song Purple Rain to his mentally unstabled, abusive father?

NO, why not? It's a song about troubled relationships, and he obviously loves his parents

6) Get rid of the theme of slapping people.
There's more I could say but I rather here it from someone else.


Don't agree, but that's cool.


You just want someone to agree with U huh? lol

People fall in love or lust at first site all the time... this is a Rock movie it just adds to the passion, and it's not a drama, we don't have all day to watch it develope

someone else said something about the purpose for the tape, that's real life stuff kiddo,

well of course you don't, (you don't agree that I agree that editing could have been a bit better?

I don't understand some of your issues, especially dedicating Purple Rain to his father, even though it's meant to go to his band:W&L more specifically, Apollonia and his dad & mom, Purple Rain is about troubled relationships and healing
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Reply #82 posted 06/24/09 10:29am

NastradumasKid

OldFriends4Sale said:

therat said:

make them all take more acting lessons and cut out that "What do yooooou dream about" line or make her say it better. Also cast a black woman to play his mother.



Too perfect acting would have spoiled especially since they(everyone but the mother & father) were not actors

I liked the line ... I don't think I'm mistaken but that was the original title Prince wanted when writing in his purple notebook. DREAMs



Where do U come from?
New Orleans
What are U doing here?
I heard about the club, and thought I'd try my luck
You're in the business?
Well... I'm a Singer
Oh
1st Avenue is really famous
A lot of bands make it after playing there
It must be exciting
Is that what turns you on?
What do you mean?
Making It
It would be nice 4 a change
It's all I dream about
And U?
What do U dream about?



Why did they have to cast a black woman? I think the interracial marriage somehow worked. And I don't think people focused on the race as much as they would have if both parents were 'black' it would have come across as too stereotypical..



confused To me it wouldn't be stereotypical.
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Reply #83 posted 06/24/09 10:32am

shonenjoe

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what exactly even happens in the end?

do the time lose the slot? who "won"?

jill's character makes little/no sense

The theme of Prince acting like his father is neat.
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Reply #84 posted 06/24/09 10:33am

NastradumasKid

OldFriends4Sale said:

NastradumasKid said:



Don't agree, but that's cool.


You just want someone to agree with U huh? lol

People fall in love or lust at first site all the time... this is a Rock movie it just adds to the passion, and it's not a drama, we don't have all day to watch it develope

someone else said something about the purpose for the tape, that's real life stuff kiddo,

well of course you don't, (you don't agree that I agree that editing could have been a bit better?

I don't understand some of your issues, especially dedicating Purple Rain to his father, even though it's meant to go to his band:W&L more specifically, Apollonia and his dad & mom, Purple Rain is about troubled relationships and healing



I understand what you were trying to emphasize and that's fine, you don't have to agree with. I was just saying that your opinions on this movie fine with me whether you agree with me or not son.
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Reply #85 posted 06/24/09 10:34am

OldFriends4Sal
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Why did they have to cast a black woman? I think the interracial marriage somehow worked. And I don't think people focused on the race as much as they would have if both parents were 'black' it would have come across as too stereotypical..[/quote]


confused To me it wouldn't be stereotypical.[/quote]


Why?? give a reason not just a response

I say it would because that is a very common idea in media of black relationships, to this day there are shows that always show the 'black' couples as fighting cheating not working: ER, Girlfriends etc etc

I just think it would have been even more a distraction for an audience that was seriously mixed white black and everyone else, to see 2 black spouses beating each other
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Reply #86 posted 06/24/09 10:37am

OldFriends4Sal
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NastradumasKid said:

OldFriends4Sale said:



You just want someone to agree with U huh? lol

People fall in love or lust at first site all the time... this is a Rock movie it just adds to the passion, and it's not a drama, we don't have all day to watch it develope

someone else said something about the purpose for the tape, that's real life stuff kiddo,

well of course you don't, (you don't agree that I agree that editing could have been a bit better?

I don't understand some of your issues, especially dedicating Purple Rain to his father, even though it's meant to go to his band:W&L more specifically, Apollonia and his dad & mom, Purple Rain is about troubled relationships and healing



I understand what you were trying to emphasize and that's fine, you don't have to agree with. I was just saying that your opinions on this movie fine with me whether you agree with me or not son.



lol you probably are older than me, but by your responses to the movie I don't think you were around in the 80's?

I just turned 37 June 5th
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Reply #87 posted 06/24/09 10:38am

NastradumasKid

toy4him said:

DesireeNevermind said:

why do you always think there's somebody else? cry


That has to be the oddest sequence in moviedom, just after the hook "Beautiful Ones. The Kid unlocks his motorcycle and Apollonia is there in the shadows waiting. The Kid smiles coyly, he knew she'd be there, and he has "something to show her (love that line by the way). After a few lines the following is said:
Apollonia: "Why do you always think there's someone else?"
The Kid: "Well let's start with the fact that you came to the club with Morris and you're leaving with me."
Apollonia: "Oh yeah, I forgot that part, thanks for reminding me." "What's your name again?"


It was like, okay now we're going out. confused Sheesh that was weird already is very controlling. BTW, lol that was funny.
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Reply #88 posted 06/24/09 10:40am

Rinluv

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Jeffiner said:

pricy503 said:

Add a scene with Electric Intercourse in it.


Well, ok... I'd agree with THAT! lol and seeing more of Brown Mark... wink
[Edited 6/24/09 9:37am]

yeah, what up up with that. My brotha didn't have no lines.
Some people think I'm kinda cute
But that don't compute when it comes 2 Y-O-U.
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Reply #89 posted 06/24/09 10:41am

NastradumasKid

OldFriends4Sale said:

NastradumasKid said:




I understand what you were trying to emphasize and that's fine, you don't have to agree with. I was just saying that your opinions on this movie fine with me whether you agree with me or not son.



lol you probably are older than me, but by your responses to the movie I don't think you were around in the 80's?

I just turned 37 June 5th


lol I'm even 20 let alone 19 but I'll be 18 in the end of June. BTW, "Son" is NY slang.
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