independent and unofficial
Prince fan community site
Wed 30th Jul 2014 2:13pm
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Prince: Music and More > The .org's official PRINCE ON THE TONIGHT SHOW thread
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 21 of 25 « First<16171819202122232425>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Reply #600 posted 03/27/09 7:47am

Genesia

avatar

purplecam said:

A lot of y'all in here are saying that tonight's going to be Bria's turn to perform and that may be the case but I wouldn't be shocked if Prince performs instead. I say that because he used 2 different bands to play the last couple of days, he has 1 more band, the John B and Rhonda S band and I can totally see him performing with them tonight. It would make sense because he has 3 bands for 3 shows tomorrow night and as much as he's promoting the albums, he's promoting Saturday Night's show too. I don't know what's in store but this seems very logical to see Prince perform one more time tonight. nod


Yeah...I can't really see him giving up tonight's slot to Bria. They booked him.
I mean if he did have sex he would break every rule Jehova's have regarding premarital sex so Prince is really just friends with them all anyway.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #601 posted 03/27/09 7:52am

Anxiety

Kim69 said:

Does anyone really care about what Paul Giamatti has to say?? confused


spoken like a true impatient prince fan. lol
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #602 posted 03/27/09 8:01am

UncleGrandpa

avatar

Last night's performance was his best so far, I love the stripped down five piece band, no frills, just skills. Mike, Sonny and the other guys, that would be the show to top on Saturday, Prince still has tricks up his sleeve. Sunday can't come soon enough.
Connie Springer
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #603 posted 03/27/09 8:07am

NuPwrSoul

WaterInYourBath said:

joshmos said:

I cant believe people like this. It just made me sad. Its over. He cant do it anymore. Sure, he plays the guitar amazingly well. He's a very very good musician,but its a tired uninspired song that goes nowhere.Same as last nights funk work out. He can write both those songs in his sleep. There is absloutely NO innovation, inventiveness or songcraft in these songs.

Do any of you remember when he wrote amazing SONGS???? Was it all just wendy &lisa? No.Because the songs were there before and a little bit after. But genius? No. Maybe during 80-87 but apart from a couple of really nice songs since, nothing has aproached the HEIGHTS of that period. Not even close. Especially these songs.

Dreamer sounds like Fury, but not as good and that wasnt all that. Its like people dont want to remember how groundbreaking and inventive he used to be. I have moved on.

This is the first time in 25 years i wont be getting the cd's on the day its released. Yes i will get them eventually. yes i do ant to hear it, and i hope i like some of it, but the spark is gone and the days of him being a giant to me are over. too bad. i thought he would grow with time, but instead he's gotten smaller. Much smaller.


I can definitely understand dissent, especially if the statements are levelheaded and logical. However, in this case, I feel your expectations are a bit too high. Do U ever wonder how it must feel, after composing thousands of individual songs for 30 years, to actually have to sit and try to create more? He could easily stop his career as a musician right now, and unlike many, have a completely consummate musical history. Realistically, after mastering nearly every genre, what is left for Prince to do at this point? Though he's ardent enough to continue so he can still perform live, I can imagine the songwriting process must be quite laborious for him now and ideas may be scarce. No matter how young he looks, that musical senescence comes with growing older as a human. That's why majority of his current work is still impressive to me, since I'm honestly shocked he can still conceive compositions at all at this stage in his life (although some songs may sound slightly unoriginal). shrug

When I hear a new Prince song like "Dreamer" now, and I like the arrangement, rhythm, melody, whatever, I really don't pay attention to its "tiredness" because at this point ultimately all of his new songs have the potential to sound "old" or recycled. That happens to almost all older accomplished songwriters (such as Smokey Robinson, James Brown, Stevie Wonder, etc). While I don't like triteness in his music (like in "...Another Like Me), I don't mind oldness since it may be impossible now for him to be "new."


I thought that was brilliantly stated.
"That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #604 posted 03/27/09 8:07am

BanishedBrian

That was a solid performance. Definitely a step up from the prior night.
No Candy 4 Me
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #605 posted 03/27/09 8:17am

dlp45

avatar

please Prince, no more harmonica.
DJ Dave Paul
The Prince and Michael Experience
website - www.bombhiphop.com/PvsM.html
blog - http://bombhiphop.wordpress.com
twitter - http://twitter.com/bombhiphop
email - princevsmichael@gmail.com
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #606 posted 03/27/09 8:28am

Alexandernvrmi
nd

avatar

japanrocks said:

Alexandernvrmind said:




Lord this place is just odd sometimes eek


yeah, but when you make fun of Cora it is clear u know nothing about drummers

check out the SHHHH! performance on Lotusflw3r.com if u do not believe


no one made fun of her.. no one said she wasn't a good drummer... no one said that the perfromance of Old School sucked or was even bad (well I didn't).

We did say it was kind of flat compared to the studio version. Which is just nuts! We then even fleshed it out more and said that perhaps it was a problem duplicating the lin drum to live drums and not Cora at all. Did you follow the conversation at all... or picked and choosed what you want to respond to?

Of course shes a good drummer
Dance... Let me see you dance
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #607 posted 03/27/09 8:34am

Alexandernvrmi
nd

avatar

joshmos said:

I cant believe people like this. It just made me sad. Its over. He cant do it anymore. Sure, he plays the guitar amazingly well. He's a very very good musician,but its a tired uninspired song that goes nowhere.Same as last nights funk work out. He can write both those songs in his sleep. There is absloutely NO innovation, inventiveness or songcraft in these songs.

Do any of you remember when he wrote amazing SONGS???? Was it all just wendy &lisa? No.Because the songs were there before and a little bit after. But genius? No. Maybe during 80-87 but apart from a couple of really nice songs since, nothing has aproached the HEIGHTS of that period. Not even close. Especially these songs.

Dreamer sounds like Fury, but not as good and that wasnt all that. Its like people dont want to remember how groundbreaking and inventive he used to be. I have moved on.

This is the first time in 25 years i wont be getting the cd's on the day its released. Yes i will get them eventually. yes i do ant to hear it, and i hope i like some of it, but the spark is gone and the days of him being a giant to me are over. too bad. i thought he would grow with time, but instead he's gotten smaller. Much smaller.


another person that wants Prince to be Prince as he was at 25. Don't get the CDs but you will be missing out. Let Prince be what he is now... hes 50 pick and enjoy the songs that you like now and appreciate it. How many 50 year old musicians look and sound like he did last night? Enjoy him why he is still here. People keep throwing around this word inspired and they want him to be innovative. Stop it

It just gets tired after a while
Dance... Let me see you dance
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #608 posted 03/27/09 8:38am

Ifsixwuz9

avatar

Loved the "Dreamer" performance. Very cool. thumbs up!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I'll play it first and tell you what it is later.
-Miles Davis-
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #609 posted 03/27/09 8:39am

Alexandernvrmi
nd

avatar

tricky99 said:

Alexandernvrmind said:



definately gotta disagree there.... Old School didn't translate well last night from the studio version. I couldn't put my finger on it and many of us were discussing it all day... because the studio verison of that song is sick.

Gotta agree with Murph here! By the way I'm not saying last night sucked I'm saying given the grove of the studio cut I was taken aback by its flatness performed live...
[Edited 3/26/09 23:05pm]


See Alex that may be the problem. U and Murph are comparing it to the studio cut. That's apples and oranges. I have yet to hera the albums so it was new to my ears. I thought it kicked major ass. The second time I watched it was even better. We all have opinions but damn Prince is scrutinzed with a microscope.

Sometimes we should try to not over-analysis and just enjoy the moment. I think a whole lot of u would be happier if u didn't try judge each beat and lick and phrase that Prince produces. U got the rest of your life to do that. ENJOY THE MOMENT PEOPLE.


I know what you mean.. sometimes we do over analyze.. but I think Murph and I enjoyed the performnace we just thought something was missing. Maybe when you actually here the studio version you will relate even more and we can kick it
[Edited 3/27/09 8:44am]
Dance... Let me see you dance
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #610 posted 03/27/09 8:50am

Nothinbutjoy

avatar

Genesia said:

purplecam said:

A lot of y'all in here are saying that tonight's going to be Bria's turn to perform and that may be the case but I wouldn't be shocked if Prince performs instead. I say that because he used 2 different bands to play the last couple of days, he has 1 more band, the John B and Rhonda S band and I can totally see him performing with them tonight. It would make sense because he has 3 bands for 3 shows tomorrow night and as much as he's promoting the albums, he's promoting Saturday Night's show too. I don't know what's in store but this seems very logical to see Prince perform one more time tonight. nod


Yeah...I can't really see him giving up tonight's slot to Bria. They booked him.



In very recent years, he has shown that he is quite capable of sharing his stage.

rose
Photoshop kills natural beauty
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #611 posted 03/27/09 8:52am

jamaicanbob

LOVED that performance. I loved that it was pretty much him on a stage with nothin much extra. I haven't listened to the entirety of the cds yet, but this song is BY FAR my favorite so far.

I'm bout ready to send this link to my dad, and he hates Prince haha. Great song choice to perform and great performance!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #612 posted 03/27/09 9:03am

squirrelgrease

avatar

Wow. Tickle my balls and call me Wilma, Dreamer was awesome.
If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #613 posted 03/27/09 9:10am

TwiliteKid

avatar

NuPwrSoul said:

WaterInYourBath said:



I can definitely understand dissent, especially if the statements are levelheaded and logical. However, in this case, I feel your expectations are a bit too high. Do U ever wonder how it must feel, after composing thousands of individual songs for 30 years, to actually have to sit and try to create more? He could easily stop his career as a musician right now, and unlike many, have a completely consummate musical history. Realistically, after mastering nearly every genre, what is left for Prince to do at this point? Though he's ardent enough to continue so he can still perform live, I can imagine the songwriting process must be quite laborious for him now and ideas may be scarce. No matter how young he looks, that musical senescence comes with growing older as a human. That's why majority of his current work is still impressive to me, since I'm honestly shocked he can still conceive compositions at all at this stage in his life (although some songs may sound slightly unoriginal). shrug

When I hear a new Prince song like "Dreamer" now, and I like the arrangement, rhythm, melody, whatever, I really don't pay attention to its "tiredness" because at this point ultimately all of his new songs have the potential to sound "old" or recycled. That happens to almost all older accomplished songwriters (such as Smokey Robinson, James Brown, Stevie Wonder, etc). While I don't like triteness in his music (like in "...Another Like Me), I don't mind oldness since it may be impossible now for him to be "new."


I thought that was brilliantly stated.



Indeed, dead on. As much as I would love it to be otherwise, Prince just isn't going to surprise us again.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #614 posted 03/27/09 9:13am

DesireeNevermi
nd

So much better than Wednesday's gig...pretty much as I expected. He seemed more at ease too. Harmonica dude tho whofarted but he got some moves I will give him that. I just can't feel anybody elses' harmonica xcept Stevie's. sigh
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #615 posted 03/27/09 9:13am

contrapposto

avatar

squirrelgrease said:

Wow. Tickle my balls and call me Wilma, Dreamer was awesome.


lol
bunny2 heart
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #616 posted 03/27/09 9:19am

geeque

Are we talking about the same Prince here, cause I don't know what some of you are talking about. I find this part of his career to be the strongest ever. From what I've seen so far, the pop ditties are being replaced with full on rock and roll.

Haven't heard the full albums yet as I'm in the wilds of British Columbia, Canada with no high speed and no Target in sight. This stupid distribution system is making me crazy, just put the music on itunes and I'll go to the internet cafe in town.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #617 posted 03/27/09 9:22am

marrakech

jamaicanbob said:

LOVED that performance. I loved that it was pretty much him on a stage with nothin much extra. I haven't listened to the entirety of the cds yet, but this song is BY FAR my favorite so far.

I'm bout ready to send this link to my dad, and he hates Prince haha. Great song choice to perform and great performance!

i agree, it was a nice change up to have "just him" and the band behind him. Lovin the butterscotch and how he just walked up and handed the guy the guitar, while it was still on! That was too funny....people looking at each other like "what the @#%&* did I just get hit with!" Time to wake up Ya'll! cool
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #618 posted 03/27/09 9:37am

joelmarable

BanishedBrian said:

NDRU said:

I think the performance was good, and he seemed into it, but the song itself was no better than any number of songs he's done since Come On that have no melody/hook.

In other words, instead of naming this one Old School Company, perhaps he should have just called in The Work Part VIII because that's about how many times we've heard the same basic formula now.

naw bro the work is built around chicken scratch guitar.old school is keyboard drivin they sound nothing alike.u dont know yo funk.u probably cant dance eithercan
stickman
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #619 posted 03/27/09 9:45am

shockadelica77
7

avatar

jdcxc said:

"Ol Skool Company" was definitely a mess and came a bit undone towards the end. The whole band setup setup was all over the place and distracting. I know the 3 background singers & drunk harmonica dude are supposed to bring energy and give off a party vibe, but it just didn't do it for me. The whole thing felt a bit contrived, down to P's trying-to-sound-young-and-hip-slang thrown into the lyrics or ad libbed. For the record, I haven't heard the album version yet, so my first impression of the song wasn't all that great. Based on reviews, I'm keeping my hopes up.

Have you ever been to a George Clinton/Parliament-Funkadelic concert? Sometimes messiness adds to the funk.


Unfortunately, I'm old enough to say that I have. Parliament shows were a scene..a spectacle. This, my friend, was nothing of the sort. It just wasn't working for me, what can I say?
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #620 posted 03/27/09 9:51am

RosesRred

avatar

He rocked like no other, I just watched it on television
and first I thought he was wearing jeans, I was about to scream
becauseI think he looks great in jeans but back to the
performance which I enjoyed
a lot, my son(15) watched it too and he loves to see him
play the guitar.
He always acts like he doesn't like Prince
but he was the one that stayed up Wednesday night waiting
to see him perform,
he is slowly coming to the other side, when Prince gave
that man that guitar, my son gave Prince lots of cool points
for doing that, cool
I think Prince's performance tonight will really have
him hooked and that's
when he will know that he can't deny that Prince is
one bad performer of our time.


cloud9

bad meaning good/great wink
----------------------------------

Listen to SPEECH from Arrested Development take you
Around the World in A Day..www.MUSICALSAFARI.COM

*never give Up.♥
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #621 posted 03/27/09 10:00am

Poplife88

avatar

Paris9748430 said:

MAN, I hope he goes on tour!!!

That song kicks ASS Live!!!

You can't ever go wrong with Prince, Sonny T, and Michael B.

Prince, PLEASE come to Chicago and play that song!!!


That's what I am talkin about...gotta see that one in person. I like the show the night before, but he blew the doors off with Dreamer. One of the best things I have seen/heard from him. cool cool cool headbang
We're gonna need a bigger boat
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #622 posted 03/27/09 10:16am

NaughtyKitty

avatar

Dont know if anybody saw this, sorry if its already been posted in this thread...found this over at TMZ.com:

Prince Indian Gives Guitar to TMZ Staffer
Posted Mar 27th 2009 11:42AM by TMZ Staff

Hey everybody, Daniel from TMZ here. So last night Prince gave me his guitar ... and then some guy took it back.



I was lucky enough to sit front row during a taping of "The Tonight Show." I was there for one reason, and one reason only -- to see Prince. After suffering through Paul Giamatti and Emma Roberts, Prince came on and performed "Dreamer."

As the song was winding down, Prince took off his guitar and walked out into the crowd -- I had no idea what he was doing. He walked right up to me and just simply handed me his guitar and walked away. I stood there stunned for about 20 seconds while my friend Trent went nuts. We both kinda strummed the guitar before I turned around and held it up to the crowd triumphantly.

After another 30 seconds or so, someone came around and retrieved the guitar. Now, I was all excited about this whole thing -- calling and texting everyone I can think of. But when I came to work today, everyone said the same thing -- PRINCE OWES YOU A GUITAR. I believe Harvey's quote was, "You're a schmuck for giving it back."

So here's the question, does Prince owe me a guitar?

http://www.tmz.com/2009/0...z-staffer/

And then there's also a poll question that says "Is that guitar mine?" YES or NO. So far 84% have responded with YES lol
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #623 posted 03/27/09 10:34am

thebeautifulon
es777

avatar

loved both performances cant wait to see tonights performance
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #624 posted 03/27/09 10:46am

LondonStyle

avatar

squirrelgrease said:

Wow. Tickle my balls and call me Wilma, Dreamer was awesome.


Wilma.... biggrin


Prince Rocks....he ripped that sh*t up ! biggrin
Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
James Brown & Michael Jackson RIP, your music still lives with us!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #625 posted 03/27/09 10:47am

syrinx7

CocoRock said:

Gohi said:


What does him saying that have anything to do with whether he voted or not? Shaddup.

Seeing as we Americans live in a democracy wherein people VOTE to elect their leaders, I'd say it has alot to do with him (a NON voter by choice) saying that.

It's like he wants to claim victory for something he had nothing to with. So no, I won't "shaddup". thumbs up!


You got my vote on that, CocoRock...and I actually liked the song and the performance, but I do have a hard time reconciling that statement with other statements that he has made regarding politics, politicians and voting. In fact, didn't he say in an interview that Obama was "just like the rest of them"?
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #626 posted 03/27/09 10:47am

funkii

avatar

please don't bring that tmz gossip rubbish in this thread also sad

on the + side
i only just saw dreamer a few hours ago
as i'm from australia and don't get jay leno in my household
that was crazy
the man did me proud
i'm even sure my mates that dislike prince would dig that
i'd put money on it..but i don't bet haha

some are saying his music isn't what it was
and that they are leaving or giving up?
well leave already
don't try ruin our party

i'm here till the day i die
You saw the apple
hanging on the tree,
But missed the orchid
in your gaze
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #627 posted 03/27/09 10:48am

murph

Alexandernvrmind said:

tricky99 said:



See Alex that may be the problem. U and Murph are comparing it to the studio cut. That's apples and oranges. I have yet to hera the albums so it was new to my ears. I thought it kicked major ass. The second time I watched it was even better. We all have opinions but damn Prince is scrutinzed with a microscope.

Sometimes we should try to not over-analysis and just enjoy the moment. I think a whole lot of u would be happier if u didn't try judge each beat and lick and phrase that Prince produces. U got the rest of your life to do that. ENJOY THE MOMENT PEOPLE.


I know what you mean.. sometimes we do over analyze.. but I think Murph and I enjoyed the performnace we just thought something was missing. Maybe when you actually here the studio version you will relate even more and we can kick it
[Edited 3/27/09 8:44am]


Indeed...we are saying that we like the song (at least I like the production on the record; but not the lyrics which are kinda pedestrian...)...But "Dreamer" was a homerun all the way....

Overall, Prince has done well with these two albums...The old man gets some props...For real...
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #628 posted 03/27/09 11:03am

BanishedBrian

joelmarable said:

BanishedBrian said:


In other words, instead of naming this one Old School Company, perhaps he should have just called in The Work Part VIII because that's about how many times we've heard the same basic formula now.

naw bro the work is built around chicken scratch guitar.old school is keyboard drivin they sound nothing alike.u dont know yo funk.u probably cant dance eithercan

The songs may have different instrumentation, but they're all the same general vibe. It's Prince still attempting to impress all of his 70s idols with the same watered down funk, rambling on about the same topics (think Musicology). The songs have no energy or melody.

Perhaps the studio version will impress me more. And even though I called it The Work Part VIII, I actually like The Work -- it's more the boring Musicology tip that puts me to sleep, and OSC live doesn't wake me up.
No Candy 4 Me
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #629 posted 03/27/09 11:05am

syrinx7

CocoRock said:

Gohi said:


He's not claiming victory... he's stating a fact brah.

He sure sounds proud to me.

And let's not be fooled into thinking that just because there's a Halfrican American sitting at the big desk in the Oval Office, the White House is NOT Black. Far from it.

Prince should just stop tyrna make any social commentary altogether. He inevitably winds up sounding even more out of touch than he really is.


Well, my kids are half black and half white-when they fill out forms that ask the question they can't check off white and there is no space for "halfrican" (which I find offensive, BTW).

What I thought was interesting was that anyone with a name like Barack Hussein Obama would even get elected as opposed to anyone with names like Johnson, Smith, Jackson, Kerry, Clinton, etc. whether black or white.

I don't think Prince (or anyone) should stop making social commentary really. I also read Alexnevermind's post re: this issue and it made a lot of sense.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 21 of 25 « First<16171819202122232425>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Prince: Music and More > The .org's official PRINCE ON THE TONIGHT SHOW thread