sandraparke said:

Hope he speaks too. It has to be a Bria track

laurarichardson said:

"B.S." Really. LOL. Well, I was little and wasn't a member here back then. Besides, except for a few songs, the jazz of TRC and that era wasn't anything new musically anyway, just like "Dreamer" isn't now. I bet whatever negativity U are referring to is similar to the statements I initially opposed in this thread, with people not enjoying him sounding "old hat," or sounding like someone else.

Since I've been here, I've read people applauding unique songs Price has done recently (2004-present), for example, "The Word." But I guess I shouldn't generalize his audience and believe most would appreciate him creating new and completely original musical sounds (which TRC does not really exemplify), 'cause the processes of hearing and understanding his music are relative within his fans.

laurarichardson said:

I'm pretty sure the poster was referring to the Old School Company performance the other night.... not Dreamer from last night

WaterInYourBath said:

Actually, there was a lot of very positive reaction to TRC on the org when it came out. Many fawned over it, including many people described as "haterz" by the "fams". (I remember the day of the download release, WellBeyond going on and on about how great Blackwell's drumming was, and pretty much everyone agreeing.)

Most of the criticism that there was centered on the perceived non-inclusiveness of the religious references, overuse of the Bob George voice, and belief by some that there was misogyny (and even racism) in the lyrics. That stuff made the ablum a bit of a lightning rod.

Xpectation wasn't so well received, but then again, it wasn't particularly musically creative IMO (especially with Xenophobia not included).

C-NOTE OTOH had a lot of positive reactions. Same with bits of ONA studio and N.E.W.S..

Many people on this site will give him props when he breaks the mold musically.
[Edited 3/27/09 15:33pm]

redflag said:

bowie.

If you want to remember it that way go ahead. I remember one person posting that they would be embarrass to ride down the street and have people hear the music coming out of their car. Really mean post about the music as well as the lyrical content.

laurarichardson said:

Yes, I remember TRC being almost universally trashed here on the org when it was first released. Some liked it, a few looked past the lyrics and enjoyed the music but the vast majority seemed to have a very active dislike for the album.

laurarichardson said:

Yes, I remember TRC being almost universally trashed here on the org when it was first released. Some liked it, a few looked past the lyrics and enjoyed the music but the vast majority seemed to have a very active dislike for the album.

BanishedBrian said:

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"Actually, there was a lot of very positive reaction to TRC on the org when it came out"

If you want to remember it that way go ahead. I remember one person posting that they would be embarrass to ride down the street and have people hear the music coming out of their car. Really mean post about the music as well as the lyrical content.

In five years you will get people who hated this project moning about how they wish P would do something like "LotusFlower" again.

No one knows what the like or want to hear from project to the next. This is the reason I will go out Sunday and get the CD and make my own decision.

Anxiety said:

An interesting parallel, but honesly, when was the last time Bowie did something surprising? I'd guess that was "Outside" (1995, Bowie at the age of 48) and "Earthling" (1997, Bowie at the age of 50). Many people dislike "Earthling" and the Drum'n'Bass stuff, so the last innovative (!) Bowie record pleasing a majority of his fans seems to be "Outside" to me - and that album is 14 years old! I mean, I love "Heathen", but I don't think it will get an innovation award...

Like I said, TRC was a lightning rod project from day 1 for the reasons I mentioned, but there was always a large contingent that liked it from the day the download became available. That's because a lot of his long-time fans appreciate it when he does risk-taking projects, while others are looking for something with more of a pop feel.
To say that most of the people who praise TRC today hated it back then is disingenuous. There are some who have come around, but most of the fans of that project have always like it.

BanishedBrian said:

That's not true at all, I don't hate it because of any of that, some of us that dislike it have the most diverse collection , and actively seek out risk taking music.

TRC to "me" is just too stupid lyrically, the compositions are lazy 70's jazz-like fusion cartoons.
The "production" that some TRC lovers exalt contains that dopey awkward narrative in the most annoying voice I can imagine, that's not good production.
I can go on and on, but want to say it just makes me laugh whenever people that do like it, say it like they are avant guard Prince fans or something, but in reality, not too worldly about music and all that is out there and think Prince invented bad 70's fusion jazz with bad lyrics and dopey production..

I respect your opinion violetblues...however, not many musicians like Prince and his band members pour so much into a ballad structured cd. To really enjoy the cd...I believe you have to feel the imagery "The Rainbow Children," has.
The other thing that I believe...Is that if you don't love-it...U can't possibly get the message. The cd...is like an anchor that attempts to ground Heaven on Earth...and it does pull it down here.

Seeds of spiritual truth are hidden everywhere in that cd. Watch them grow...Prince knows that TRC is way ahead of it's time.

Ok....Prince won me back with Dreamer on the second night. Even if it did sound Lenny Kravitzesque....amazing guitar work. just amazing. Physically, he actually looked "prettier" last night than he has in a long while.

BlackAdder7 said:

He broke out the lashes!!!! The only man that can rock lashes...probably extensions....they looked hot!!!

what is this thread about again?

Okay, so...was anyone at tonight's taping? Please tell me it ain't Bria...

Prince mentions AIG in the Tonight Show performance.

Of course I've heard about AIG and the bailout here and there in the news. I really don't pay attention, though.

So, what is AIG? Are they going to now put a hit out on Prince since he said that?

Most people don't remember this, but Al-Qeada really did put out a hit on Eminem when he mockingly portrayed Osama bin Laden in one of his music videos.

jtfolden said:

And I still hate the dam thing!

Like I said, TRC was a lightning rod project from day 1 for the reasons I mentioned, but there was always a large contingent that liked it from the day the download became available.

That's because a lot of his long-time fans appreciate it when he does risk-taking projects, while others are looking for something with more of a pop feel.

nevermind.
[Edited 3/27/09 19:35pm]

laurarichardson said:

Yes, I remember TRC being almost universally trashed here on the org when it was first released. Some liked it, a few looked past the lyrics and enjoyed the music but the vast majority seemed to have a very active dislike for the album.