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Thread started 01/10/17 5:03am

rogifan

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Why all the dislike for Shelby J.?

I came across some old org threads (from before I was posting here) and there seemed to be a real dislike for Shelby J. I don't get it. The woman has an amazing voice and she obviously was playing the role Prince wanted her to play in his band. From what I can tell she's never been anything but respectful of Prince and had great love for him (like a brother). She never sold her story to the tabloids or tried to cash in on her relationship with him. Is it just because people didn't like "clap your hands stomp your feet" chants? Seriously? lol

http://prince.org/msg/12/349445

http://prince.org/msg/5/357022

http://prince.org/msg/5/362550

http://prince.org/msg/5/365218

http://prince.org/msg/5/415965
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Reply #1 posted 01/10/17 5:06am

rogifan

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Just a couple things Shelby posted on FB last year.

http://prince.org/msg/7/426100
Hey yal🙏🏾
I've been quiet cuz I needed Time.
But on my flight home from Minneapolis while looking out at the clouds....this came to me and I had to write💜

Time 2 go.....
As I look out my window seat
Minneapolis flashbacks come to me,
Rehearsals, parties, hangin & more...
U let me Into your Heart & it's U I Adore.
Though Ur gone from this Physical realm,
Your Spirit Lingers On,
So Funny, So Gifted, So Giving, So Strong.

Thank u Prince for the Journey, the Love & the Lessons,
U were more than my Partna', U were My Blessing💗
Sunday's service gave my heart a hug as U knew it would, I Feel a New Peace and that is Good.
I will Honor U in death as I did In this Life,
I'll Do NOTHING to tarnish that Beautiful Light.
I dropped by Paisley.....it wasn't the same,
But I found comfort in the mementos that bore your likeness & name.
U were loved by SO many... Every Color, Every Creed, U touched their Souls and planted MANY Seeds.
So Sleep well my Sweet Prince as I start a Chapter that is New,
A lil scary, but I can hear ..."Wheels up Shel....We Got Work to Do"

U chose ME for this ride, 2 be Right by YOUR side, My mentor...my Guide.... Can't wait 2 C U on the Other Side🤗💜
We sang this together & now it REALLY rings TRUE,
NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING....Compares 2 U 💗

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Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #2 posted 01/10/17 5:17am

luvgirl

I don't know much about Shelby J, but so far, I haven't heard anything disrespectfully said or done by her. It seemed as if she really respected Prince. That was a beautiful poem.
I just want you here, I just want you near me baby, cause I'm scared I'll cry, I love you like crazy.
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Reply #3 posted 01/10/17 9:19am

paxandlux

rogifan said:

I came across some old org threads (from before I was posting here) and there seemed to be a real dislike for Shelby J. I don't get it. The woman has an amazing voice and she obviously was playing the role Prince wanted her to play in his band. From what I can tell she's never been anything but respectful of Prince and had great love for him (like a brother). She never sold her story to the tabloids or tried to cash in on her relationship with him. Is it just because people didn't like "clap your hands stomp your feet" chants? Seriously? lol http://prince.org/msg/12/349445 http://prince.org/msg/5/357022 http://prince.org/msg/5/362550 http://prince.org/msg/5/365218 http://prince.org/msg/5/415965

people need something to bitch about. i never thought needed a hype man/woman but i've never had aproblem with shelby. she seems to have a sweet "southern girl" spirit.

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Reply #4 posted 01/10/17 9:24am

MoDrawersMoDra
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I absolutely LOVE Shelby...

Swear you don't miss the organ grinder grinding on you every day.
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Reply #5 posted 01/10/17 9:36am

MrNelson7

Shelby has an amazing voice, presence, and personality. I think she wears her heart on her sleeve.

Some people just gotta bitch.

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Reply #6 posted 01/10/17 9:51am

MrNelson7

Also, when I actually skim those threads, there seem to be a lot more Shelby supporters than not.

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Reply #7 posted 01/10/17 11:45am

OldFriends4Sal
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Shelby is the female Larry Graham,

You hear the groans as soon as she opens her mouth, people were slitting there wrists when she was singing Angels.

http://prince.org/msg/12/349445

#0

Shelby is always spoiling Prince's magic... i'm starting to miss Tony M

http://prince.org/msg/5/357022

#0

When I see her in a pic I feel like breaking something,

http://prince.org/msg/5/362550

#1

When I travel over 2000 miles to see Prince I wanna prince Buzz Not a Shelby Hangover!

http://prince.org/msg/5/365218

#3

How will we ever know when to put our hands up if she truly is gone?

#27

She's talented, but people got tired of putting their hands up.

http://prince.org/msg/5/415965

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.

That was a funny read and trip down memory lane

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
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Reply #8 posted 01/10/17 11:49am

OldFriends4Sal
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my funny bone is overactive today

reading those were really funny

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
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Reply #9 posted 01/10/17 1:03pm

EmmaMcG

rogifan said:

I came across some old org threads (from before I was posting here) and there seemed to be a real dislike for Shelby J. I don't get it. The woman has an amazing voice and she obviously was playing the role Prince wanted her to play in his band. From what I can tell she's never been anything but respectful of Prince and had great love for him (like a brother). She never sold her story to the tabloids or tried to cash in on her relationship with him. Is it just because people didn't like "clap your hands stomp your feet" chants? Seriously? lol

http://prince.org/msg/12/349445

http://prince.org/msg/5/357022

http://prince.org/msg/5/362550

http://prince.org/msg/5/365218

http://prince.org/msg/5/415965


I don't know her personally so I can't judge whether I like her or not. But I CAN judge her input on Prince's songs and performances and I don't like her involvement in either. A very big factor in that is her near constant yelling of "put your hands up" and her other "catchphrases". She was unnecessary. The band are there, playing some really cool, funky grooves, then she comes along and ruins it with her annoying voice.
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Reply #10 posted 01/10/17 3:11pm

rogifan

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EmmaMcG said:

rogifan said:

I came across some old org threads (from before I was posting here) and there seemed to be a real dislike for Shelby J. I don't get it. The woman has an amazing voice and she obviously was playing the role Prince wanted her to play in his band. From what I can tell she's never been anything but respectful of Prince and had great love for him (like a brother). She never sold her story to the tabloids or tried to cash in on her relationship with him. Is it just because people didn't like "clap your hands stomp your feet" chants? Seriously? lol

http://prince.org/msg/12/349445

http://prince.org/msg/5/357022

http://prince.org/msg/5/362550

http://prince.org/msg/5/365218

http://prince.org/msg/5/415965


I don't know her personally so I can't judge whether I like her or not. But I CAN judge her input on Prince's songs and performances and I don't like her involvement in either. A very big factor in that is her near constant yelling of "put your hands up" and her other "catchphrases". She was unnecessary. The band are there, playing some really cool, funky grooves, then she comes along and ruins it with her annoying voice.

Well obviously Prince didn't agree. wink
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Reply #11 posted 01/10/17 3:38pm

EmmaMcG

rogifan said:

EmmaMcG said:



I don't know her personally so I can't judge whether I like her or not. But I CAN judge her input on Prince's songs and performances and I don't like her involvement in either. A very big factor in that is her near constant yelling of "put your hands up" and her other "catchphrases". She was unnecessary. The band are there, playing some really cool, funky grooves, then she comes along and ruins it with her annoying voice.

Well obviously Prince didn't agree. wink


No, obviously not. Though this is the same man who also had Tony M in a similar role before so make of that what you will. Maybe he felt her input was a necessary part of the show? Maybe he liked it? Or maybe he just got on with her on a personal level and that clouded his judgement on what she was bringing to the table. Who knows? The reason for her appearances at his shows are not important though. What's important, and relevant, to what you asked is the reason for many fans dislike of her. I can't speak for everyone but for me, I felt she was an unnecessary part of the show that actually detracted from the overall experience with her annoying chanting.
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Reply #12 posted 01/10/17 4:56pm

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I wasn't mad at her, I was mad at Prince for having her sing so much. He barely let Rosie do shit and she was much better.

He loved women so much he thought they should sing his songs. He really did hate men.

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Reply #13 posted 01/10/17 5:08pm

Purplestar88

I don't why. She seems like sweet person and not about the drama and negativity. Prince seem to adore her and connect with her.

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Reply #14 posted 01/10/17 5:59pm

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rogifan said:

I came across some old org threads (from before I was posting here) and there seemed to be a real dislike for Shelby J. I don't get it. The woman has an amazing voice and she obviously was playing the role Prince wanted her to play in his band. From what I can tell she's never been anything but respectful of Prince and had great love for him (like a brother). She never sold her story to the tabloids or tried to cash in on her relationship with him. Is it just because people didn't like "clap your hands stomp your feet" chants? Seriously? lol http://prince.org/msg/12/349445 http://prince.org/msg/5/357022 http://prince.org/msg/5/362550 http://prince.org/msg/5/365218 http://prince.org/msg/5/415965



You found those, huh?


I have nothing to say.

“Do I dare Disturb the universe?”
― T.S. Eliot

“Only by acceptance of the past, can you alter it”
― T.S. Eliot
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Reply #15 posted 01/10/17 6:12pm

luvgirl

OldFriends4Sale said:


#18



Shelby is the female Larry Graham,


You hear the groans as soon as she opens her mouth, people were slitting there wrists when she was singing Angels.


http://prince.org/msg/12/349445




#0


Shelby is always spoiling Prince's magic... i'm starting to miss Tony M


http://prince.org/msg/5/357022



#0


When I see her in a pic I feel like breaking something,


http://prince.org/msg/5/362550



#1


When I travel over 2000 miles to see Prince I wanna prince Buzz Not a Shelby Hangover!


http://prince.org/msg/5/365218



#3


How will we ever know when to put our hands up if she truly is gone?


#27


She's talented, but people got tired of putting their hands up.


http://prince.org/msg/5/415965


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.


That was a funny read and trip down memory lane




Wow! Brutal... You sure have to have some thick skin to be in front lines of the online community. Whew! eek
[Edited 1/10/17 18:22pm]
I just want you here, I just want you near me baby, cause I'm scared I'll cry, I love you like crazy.
~RIP~
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Reply #16 posted 01/10/17 7:39pm

TheKid94

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I'm seeing her on Thursday!
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Reply #17 posted 01/10/17 8:18pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

I wasn't mad at her, I was mad at Prince for having her sing so much. He barely let Rosie do shit and she was much better.

He loved women so much he thought they should sing his songs. He really did hate men.

It was not about her I agree. It was more so Prince fault for letting her sing too much on tour. Especially on the Indigo Nights disc. Was a little much.

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Reply #18 posted 01/10/17 10:18pm

UncleJam

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She's cool, but I agree...Prince turned the show over to her waaaay too often.

Make it so, Number One...
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Reply #19 posted 01/10/17 10:29pm

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Wow, didn't realize people had an issue with her. She seems like a lovely person and can sing like nobody's business. I was just admiring her, Liv, and Elisa singing in the first Montreux 2013 show earlier today.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #20 posted 01/11/17 12:24am

rogifan

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luvgirl said:

OldFriends4Sale said:


#18



Shelby is the female Larry Graham,


You hear the groans as soon as she opens her mouth, people were slitting there wrists when she was singing Angels.


http://prince.org/msg/12/349445




#0


Shelby is always spoiling Prince's magic... i'm starting to miss Tony M


http://prince.org/msg/5/357022



#0


When I see her in a pic I feel like breaking something,


http://prince.org/msg/5/362550



#1


When I travel over 2000 miles to see Prince I wanna prince Buzz Not a Shelby Hangover!


http://prince.org/msg/5/365218



#3


How will we ever know when to put our hands up if she truly is gone?


#27


She's talented, but people got tired of putting their hands up.


http://prince.org/msg/5/415965


.


.


That was a funny read and trip down memory lane




Wow! Brutal... You sure have to have some thick skin to be in front lines of the online community. Whew! eek
[Edited 1/10/17 18:22pm]

it's easy to be cruel on the internet. These people would never say this stuff to her face.
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Reply #21 posted 01/11/17 12:32am

rogifan

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Mumio said:

Wow, didn't realize people had an issue with her. She seems like a lovely person and can sing like nobody's business. I was just admiring her, Liv, and Elisa singing in the first Montreux 2013 show earlier today.


I read a story on Facebook of someone who toured Paisley Park. It was around the time of the official tribute concert. Shelby happened to be at Paisley the day they did the tour. When they came to the part with the super bowl video Shelby was there talking about how this was her first big gig with Prince. Someone started getting very emotional. Shelby went over and put her arm around them to comfort them in that moment. I thought that was very touching.
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Reply #22 posted 01/11/17 9:33am

Latin

OldFriends4Sale said:


#18



Shelby is the female Larry Graham,


You hear the groans as soon as she opens her mouth, people were slitting there wrists when she was singing Angels.


http://prince.org/msg/12/349445




#0


Shelby is always spoiling Prince's magic... i'm starting to miss Tony M


http://prince.org/msg/5/357022



#0


When I see her in a pic I feel like breaking something,


http://prince.org/msg/5/362550



#1


When I travel over 2000 miles to see Prince I wanna prince Buzz Not a Shelby Hangover!


http://prince.org/msg/5/365218



#3


How will we ever know when to put our hands up if she truly is gone?


#27


She's talented, but people got tired of putting their hands up.


http://prince.org/msg/5/415965


.


.


That was a funny read and trip down memory lane




Wow. Whatever happened to the spirit of "Love4oneanother"?
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Reply #23 posted 01/11/17 11:32am

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Latin said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

#18

Shelby is the female Larry Graham,

You hear the groans as soon as she opens her mouth, people were slitting there wrists when she was singing Angels.

http://prince.org/msg/12/349445

#0

Shelby is always spoiling Prince's magic... i'm starting to miss Tony M

http://prince.org/msg/5/357022

#0

When I see her in a pic I feel like breaking something,

http://prince.org/msg/5/362550

#1

When I travel over 2000 miles to see Prince I wanna prince Buzz Not a Shelby Hangover!

http://prince.org/msg/5/365218

#3

How will we ever know when to put our hands up if she truly is gone?

#27

She's talented, but people got tired of putting their hands up.

http://prince.org/msg/5/415965

.

.

That was a funny read and trip down memory lane

Wow. Whatever happened to the spirit of "Love4oneanother"?

Prince fans, and I assume fans of any musician, will always be particular to what other musical elements add to their musical scene. I don't think people hated Shelby, they just had like or dislike on how her vocal expression meshed with their experience.

That goes for anything. No one has to love anything and everything an artist does of course.

A lot of that is just Org people poking fun in their way

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
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Reply #24 posted 01/11/17 11:47am

Latin

OldFriends4Sale said:



Latin said:


OldFriends4Sale said:


#18



Shelby is the female Larry Graham,


You hear the groans as soon as she opens her mouth, people were slitting there wrists when she was singing Angels.


http://prince.org/msg/12/349445




#0


Shelby is always spoiling Prince's magic... i'm starting to miss Tony M


http://prince.org/msg/5/357022



#0


When I see her in a pic I feel like breaking something,


http://prince.org/msg/5/362550



#1


When I travel over 2000 miles to see Prince I wanna prince Buzz Not a Shelby Hangover!


http://prince.org/msg/5/365218



#3


How will we ever know when to put our hands up if she truly is gone?


#27


She's talented, but people got tired of putting their hands up.


http://prince.org/msg/5/415965


.


.


That was a funny read and trip down memory lane




Wow. Whatever happened to the spirit of "Love4oneanother"?


Prince fans, and I assume fans of any musician, will always be particular to what other musical elements add to their musical scene. I don't think people hated Shelby, they just had like or dislike on how her vocal expression meshed with their experience.



That goes for anything. No one has to love anything and everything an artist does of course.



That is why similar harsh comments & mockery are also made on other threads about Sheila E., Wendy & Lisa, Mayte, etc.

It's unfortunate, but it is what it is.
[Edited 1/11/17 15:22pm]
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Reply #25 posted 01/11/17 12:04pm

Latin

rogifan said:

Mumio said:

Wow, didn't realize people had an issue with her. She seems like a lovely person and can sing like nobody's business. I was just admiring her, Liv, and Elisa singing in the first Montreux 2013 show earlier today.


I read a story on Facebook of someone who toured Paisley Park. It was around the time of the official tribute concert. Shelby happened to be at Paisley the day they did the tour. When they came to the part with the super bowl video Shelby was there talking about how this was her first big gig with Prince. Someone started getting very emotional. Shelby went over and put her arm around them to comfort them in that moment. I thought that was very touching.

Yes, that was very sweet of Shelby.
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Reply #26 posted 01/11/17 1:48pm

FlyOnTheWall

It's sometimes hard to understand why some people are so mean-spirited. But I guess that's just the world we live in. It makes me very sad sometimes.

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Reply #27 posted 01/11/17 5:13pm

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rogifan said:

I came across some old org threads (from before I was posting here) and there seemed to be a real dislike for Shelby J. I don't get it. The woman has an amazing voice and she obviously was playing the role Prince wanted her to play in his band. From what I can tell she's never been anything but respectful of Prince and had great love for him (like a brother). She never sold her story to the tabloids or tried to cash in on her relationship with him. Is it just because people didn't like "clap your hands stomp your feet" chants? Seriously? lol

http://prince.org/msg/12/349445

http://prince.org/msg/5/357022

http://prince.org/msg/5/362550

http://prince.org/msg/5/365218

http://prince.org/msg/5/415965


I completely agree! She is not only an amazing singer but a beautiful person!
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Reply #28 posted 01/11/17 8:23pm

Latin

TheKid94 said:

I'm seeing her on Thursday!

Wow. You are very fortunate. Please post about your experience. Thanks.
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Reply #29 posted 01/12/17 12:20am

dance4me3121

I like Shelby's voice a lot.I also like her performance she did with Prince on the George Lopez show.But I can see how some would get annoyed at her by constant "clap your hands ,stomp your feet" chants.She's from North Carolina like I am.For some reason I think she's the sole reason why Prince took his "Welcome 2 America " tour to the Carolinas .If true im grateful to her for that
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