XxAxX said:

^^ personally, i think prince looks better WITH an afro, but he's looking pretty good up there. i thought graffitti bridge was his first movie?

You mean that ain't Prince in the red cap?!! Coulda sworn that was him.

purplethunder3121 said:

XxAxX said:

^^ personally, i think prince looks better WITH an afro, but he's looking pretty good up there. i thought graffitti bridge was his first movie?

You mean that ain't Prince in the red cap?!! Coulda sworn that was him.

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girlfriend, if you ask me prince can wear any color cap he likes. red, yellow, green blue - that man is GORgeous

purplethunder3121 said:

bonatoc said:

Which movie is it?

The wheel cracks me up.

Where you been, man? That's Up In Smoke with Cheech & Chong.

Thank you. Well, a lot of american movies do not cross the Atlantic Ocean.

Even though this one looks clearly like a possible international blockbuster.

bonatoc said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Where you been, man? That's Up In Smoke with Cheech & Chong.

Thank you. Well, a lot of american movies do not cross the Atlantic Ocean.

Even though this one looks clearly like a possible international blockbuster.

I don't know. The movie came out in 1978, but I didn't see it until the early 80s...

I suspect he was hardcore anti drugs up to the mid to late 1980s and then dabbled a bit in the late 80s and 90s, but I doubt it wnet beyond a puff or two and a e trip. It is more likely drug references in songs are either equating the feeling of high for being in love or elated and if he was describing band members. Even though the Purple Rain tour was no drugs for Prince, it was known that many roadies were doing cocaine and dope and there was heaps of it on the tour. Also Wendy and Lisa were drinking openly and I suspect that later bands and tours had more the same. Drugs everywhere except with Prince.

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My guess is all the game boys used and so did Greg and Wally (They look like a Black Silent Bob and Double J or whatever their name was). Those second coming shots, he does look high, the look on his face is very unPrincely and I either he had been toking or merely acting well.

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I am strongly anti drugs myself and come from a family who think Marijuana is more acceptable than smoking, my brother has been a regular marijuana user since he was 14 (Now 42) and smokes and drinks. He nearly died when he cycled home drunk and stoned 2 years ago, has mood swings, forgets stuff all the time and is addiqted to the weed. One of ex partners was a dope junkie too and he had the same issues. I tried marijuana when I was 16 (Half a joint) and 23 (A few puffs) but never liked it. I also inadvertently had some dope brownies (Baked brownies with marijuana) when I was 24 and they got me stoned. My real father was also a dope head and the drug made him irational. I am the only one in my larger family who does not smoke or do drugs (I regularly drink alcohol to a social level, not a drunk or an alcoholic). Yet all those potheads who are missing teeth, smell bad and forget shit all the time call me fat and other names. I have not lost a single tooth and have never been ruled by needing to find my next fix or hit. Also Marijuana is a much worse problem amongst Maori and the working/welfare class than whites or middle class and educated people, except hippies and the Green Party.

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Legalising dope is dumb and even fake cannabis is evil, it got many people hooked in NZ between 2010 and 2014 until banned last year which caused a near freak out, with sleazy fake marijuana (Some shit called Kronic that was common herbs that were flavoured with cannaboids, which are now considered a deadly drug like krokodil or yabba). Methamphetamine (P)is a seriously problem here and yabba and bath salts are catching on. Most of these users of these hard drugs started on marijuana and moved on to these deadlier drugs and they still use marijuana when there is nothing else. I would marijuana banned forever and all suppliers to be executed alive and users to be jailed forever, to get rid of this vermin off our streets.

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I would love Tobacco to go too, too many brown people here smoke and lower class, you can't even open your car window when driving as some fool is smoaking and the fumes travel, plus I am always finding ciggarette butts on my lawn. People awho smoke are addiqts as they now pay $20 for a pack of smokes here and sleazy Indian run dairies that use to sell synthetic cannabis will sell separate smoaks for $2 to 13 year Islander and Maori school children in the hood illegally.

Still talking about it, eh?

Well, at least pass the joint.

Adorecream, I'm glad for you if you manage to go through your life
without the help of substances.

But may I advise you to read a little Bukowsky, one of these days?

It's not about alcohol or drug proselytism.
It's about lucidity. And the power of imagination.

Most of us "drug-takers", have a clear view on how the system in place is totally fucked up.
When you're at the start of your life and you realize your only opportunity the world is going to give you is to be either a rich rat, or a poor rat, or even worse, an average rat,
the most brilliant amongst us say : "fuck this rat race".

Minorities problems and issues do not arise from drugs.
Minorities take drugs because it's the cheapest and quickest way to escape.
They know they're fucked, it does not require a history book or a math lesson
to understand it, it's just daily episode after daily episode.
Give them a decent surrounding, treat them with respect,
give them equal chances (ha! Good one!) and they would use
drugs for recreational purposes only. Maybe they wouldn't use it at all.

But the world is not a friendly place. It's not the smurfs village.
And the machine that crunches every inch of personality and originality
is not about to stop.
Facebook and Reality TV are legal drugs, giving the average Joe
the illusion that he has talent too, that his life matters,
that one day he's going to make it big, even if he is a dumb fuck.
It's capitalism pumping, as usual, cleverly disguised as "personality affirmation".
The constant displeasing with yourself is what they're after,
and your position in the social pyramid doesn't matter.

What's left to do but to take parallel paths,
and see this whole farse through a colored prism?
It's not just escaping, it's subtler.
It's a way to reassure ourselves that there is more than meets the eye,
a confirmation that we still have our minds and imagination.
The substances are just a way to access it.
I'll be glad to live in a tribe of monks or gurus that can access it by sheer will,
but even today's praised wisdom of the native americans
included pot, and it was used to make peace.

Pot is also pretty effective against depression.
If depression is still there after a period of drug intake,
blame the neighbourhood, the environment, not the drugs.

As Macca put it, if "the love you take is equal to the love you make",
so it goes with drugs.
If all you have to bring to the table is a spirit filled with fear, small hate and discourage,
the drugs will only emphasize it.

Don't underestimate the liberating effect it has on the mind.
I wouldn't recommend LSD or any other powerful drug to the most of us,
because we all are a byproduct of the 20th century madness.
Most of all can't take it, it's just too strong a product.
But hey, The Beatles survived LSD, and so did Steve Jobs, and others.
And it did not alter their brains or creativity.
That tells you something.

People that claim they are sane, and the world is fine as it is,
and they don't need anything whatsoever to go by,
like a window opened on something else than reality
and which doesn't involve Hollywood from time to time,
those are the ones I'm suspicious about.

Whatever their drug of choice, it sure must be a shameful one.
Because everyone has one.

So Tell me, Adorecream, what's your daily sugar intake?

Or are you really tripping on P's boots only?

[Edited 11/9/15 19:33pm]

Adorecream said:

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. I would marijuana banned forever and all suppliers to be executed alive and users to be jailed forever, to get rid of this vermin off our streets.

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I would love Tobacco to go too

Yes, i would love that too, that is something is needed. Not just punish the suppliers but the users too. If the government has to execute half of the country it's ok (well that's a little too far)

bonatoc said:

Still talking about it, eh?

Well, at least pass the joint.

Adorecream, I'm glad for you if you manage to go through your life
without the help of substances.

But may I advise you to read a little Bukowsky, one of these days?

It's not about alcohol or drug proselytism.
It's about lucidity. And the power of imagination.

Most of us "drug-takers", have a clear view on how the system in place is totally fucked up.
When you're at the start of your life and you realize your only opportunity the world is going to give you is to be either a rich rat, or a poor rat, or even worse, an average rat,
the most brilliant amongst us say : "fuck this rat race".

Minorities problems and issues do not arise from drugs.
Minorities take drugs because it's the cheapest and quickest way to escape.
They know they're fucked, it does not require a history book or a math lesson
to understand it, it's just daily episode after daily episode.
Give them a decent surrounding, treat them with respect,
give them equal chances (ha! Good one!) and they would use
drugs for recreational purposes only. Maybe they wouldn't use it at all.

But the world is not a friendly place. It's not the smurfs village.
And the machine that crunches every inch of personality and originality
is not about to stop.
Facebook and Reality TV are legal drugs, giving the average Joe
the illusion that he has talent too, that his life matters,
that one day he's going to make it big, even if he is a dumb fuck.
It's capitalism pumping, as usual, cleverly disguised as "personality affirmation".
The constant displeasing with yourself is what they're after,
and your position in the social pyramid doesn't matter.

What's left to do but to take parallel paths,
and see this whole farse through a colored prism?
It's not just escaping, it's subtler.
It's a way to reassure ourselves that there is more than meets the eye,
a confirmation that we still have our minds and imagination.
The substances are just a way to access it.
I'll be glad to live in a tribe of monks or gurus that can access it by sheer will,
but even today's praised wisdom of the native americans
included pot, and it was used to make peace.

Pot is also pretty effective against depression.
If depression is still there after a period of drug intake,
blame the neighbourhood, the environment, not the drugs.

As Macca put it, if "the love you take is equal to the love you make",
so it goes with drugs.
If all you have to bring to the table is a spirit filled with fear, small hate and discourage,
the drugs will only emphasize it.

Don't underestimate the liberating effect it has on the mind.
I wouldn't recommend LSD or any other powerful drug to the most of us,
because we all are a byproduct of the 20th century madness.
Most of all can't take it, it's just too strong a product.
But hey, The Beatles survived LSD, and so did Steve Jobs, and others.
And it did not alter their brains or creativity.
That tells you something.

People that claim they are sane, and the world is fine as it is,
and they don't need anything whatsoever to go by,
like a window opened on something else than reality
and which doesn't involve Hollywood from time to time,
those are the ones I'm suspicious about.

Whatever their drug of choice, it sure must be a shameful one.
Because everyone has one.

So Tell me, Adorecream, what's your daily sugar intake?

Or are you really tripping on P's boots only?

[Edited 11/9/15 19:33pm]

So.one can't deal with this world if don't take some substance to give you some peace of mind, some kid of scape? and if someone says "i don't use any" then is lying?

bonatoc said:

Still talking about it, eh?

Well, at least pass the joint.

Adorecream, I'm glad for you if you manage to go through your life
without the help of substances.

But may I advise you to read a little Bukowsky, one of these days?

It's not about alcohol or drug proselytism.
It's about lucidity. And the power of imagination.

Most of us "drug-takers", have a clear view on how the system in place is totally fucked up.
When you're at the start of your life and you realize your only opportunity the world is going to give you is to be either a rich rat, or a poor rat, or even worse, an average rat,
the most brilliant amongst us say : "fuck this rat race".

Minorities problems and issues do not arise from drugs.
Minorities take drugs because it's the cheapest and quickest way to escape.
They know they're fucked, it does not require a history book or a math lesson
to understand it, it's just daily episode after daily episode.
Give them a decent surrounding, treat them with respect,
give them equal chances (ha! Good one!) and they would use
drugs for recreational purposes only. Maybe they wouldn't use it at all.

But the world is not a friendly place. It's not the smurfs village.
And the machine that crunches every inch of personality and originality
is not about to stop.
Facebook and Reality TV are legal drugs, giving the average Joe
the illusion that he has talent too, that his life matters,
that one day he's going to make it big, even if he is a dumb fuck.
It's capitalism pumping, as usual, cleverly disguised as "personality affirmation".
The constant displeasing with yourself is what they're after,
and your position in the social pyramid doesn't matter.

What's left to do but to take parallel paths,
and see this whole farse through a colored prism?
It's not just escaping, it's subtler.
It's a way to reassure ourselves that there is more than meets the eye,
a confirmation that we still have our minds and imagination.
The substances are just a way to access it.
I'll be glad to live in a tribe of monks or gurus that can access it by sheer will,
but even today's praised wisdom of the native americans
included pot, and it was used to make peace.

Pot is also pretty effective against depression.
If depression is still there after a period of drug intake,
blame the neighbourhood, the environment, not the drugs.

As Macca put it, if "the love you take is equal to the love you make",
so it goes with drugs.
If all you have to bring to the table is a spirit filled with fear, small hate and discourage,
the drugs will only emphasize it.

Don't underestimate the liberating effect it has on the mind.
I wouldn't recommend LSD or any other powerful drug to the most of us,
because we all are a byproduct of the 20th century madness.
Most of all can't take it, it's just too strong a product.
But hey, The Beatles survived LSD, and so did Steve Jobs, and others.
And it did not alter their brains or creativity.
That tells you something.

People that claim they are sane, and the world is fine as it is,
and they don't need anything whatsoever to go by,
like a window opened on something else than reality
and which doesn't involve Hollywood from time to time,
those are the ones I'm suspicious about.

Whatever their drug of choice, it sure must be a shameful one.
Because everyone has one.

So Tell me, Adorecream, what's your daily sugar intake?

Or are you really tripping on P's boots only?

[Edited 11/9/15 19:33pm]

Oh boo hoo hippie! Go hug a tree!

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Told me stuff I already know, well considering I am 40 and have every single adult tooth left and all still healthy, I am not worried about sugar intake. I live in New Zealand not America.

Steve Jobs died in his early 50s, he hardly survived, all but 2 beatles are alive, drugs kill and hugs thrill.

should be in the Prince forum

kpowers said:

'Does Prince smoke weed?'

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I think he does.

Ticket pricing suggests so.

^ stop that

NorthC said:

A big to Bonatoc! I always love reading your posts. (Well, except the ones about Prince's piano tour.)

That's only because I use Shift+Caps a lot

Actually this one is just pure, or rather poor, Bukowsky kinda quoting.

I'm just mad about the "Piano Man" Tour because I fear the ticket price is going to leave me out of it. Of course I would love to attend. But I'm not seventeen anymore, "rent's due, cousin".

Adorecream said:

Oh boo hoo hippie! Go hug a tree!

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Told me stuff I already know, well considering I am 40 and have every single adult tooth left and all still healthy, I am not worried about sugar intake. I live in New Zealand not America.

Steve Jobs died in his early 50s, he hardly survived, all but 2 beatles are alive, drugs kill and hugs thrill.

Some of us are blessed with the faculty of having their inner child recallable at will.
Some of us need a little help.

Again, I would love to live in a world where people are happy enough with their surroundings or themselves, and do not need YouPr0n, a bottle, a joint or a needle in the worst cases.
Some need power, some need food, some need to have sex constantly, it seems there is an addiction for every human being.

I'm happy that you stay out of this. Your personal history with it moved me.
I guess I was trying to explain how this works for people who use it.
I understand that it appears as a weakness, and it is, in many ways.

But in the proper conditions, there's something to be gained, it's hard to explain.
Sorry if this last phrase smells of proselytism (or rather, pot).

214 said:

So.one can't deal with this world if don't take some substance to give you some peace of mind, some kid of scape? and if someone says "i don't use any" then is lying?

Absolutely not.

Like I replied to Adorecream, you're kinda lucky.
You have natural abilities, and I mean it.

Bukowsky is less tolerant, and states that you have to be crazy to be satisfied
with the world as it is.
He may have a point, that's all I'm saying.

214 said:

Mindflux said:

Hey - you could always move to Syria and join IS, then live out your dream of executing people who don't fit in with your view of the world. Problem is, they'd probably decapitate you first for the same reason. Still, fundamentally you do belong. Seriously, what an armchair fascist! Espousing such extremist crap from the comfort of your home - would love to see if you had the balls to go and start saying this kind of stuff in the real world.

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How narrow a worldview is that?

For decades the house of Saoud does very similar things to what ISIS/ISIL/whatever does/did/will do.

ISIS is sponsoired by the USA so choose carefully.

When the petrodollar breaks down, within a decade from now, then the turmoil will really start.

thedance said:

udo said:

bonatoc said:

Which movie is it?

The wheel cracks me up.

Looks like a scene from their movie "Up in Smoke". I think it´s their first movie. I have most of them but I´m too lazy to look it up now.

There´s one Cheech and Chong movie that was shot and takes place in Amsterdam, and the first version of it had Prince´s "Delirious" off of the 1999 album in one scene. Interestingly, there is a second version of that movie that does no longer contain the song Delirious but they used a similar sounding song called Twisted instead.

I guess Prince´s team did not want Cheech and Chong to use that song, and I am not even sure if they even used it legally.

trc1 said:

bonatoc said:

214 said:

So.one can't deal with this world if don't take some substance to give you some peace of mind, some kid of scape? and if someone says "i don't use any" then is lying?

Absolutely not.

Like I replied to Adorecream, you're kinda lucky.
You have natural abilities, and I mean it.

Bukowsky is less tolerant, and states that you have to be crazy to be satisfied
with the world as it is.
He may have a point, that's all I'm saying.

Natural abilities? what are you talkin about? i got certain addiction too but not that kind of addiction to drugs or some alike. We all have our demons, just manage or deal with them in different ways.

Mindflux said:

214 said:

Yes, i would love that too, that is something is needed. Not just punish the suppliers but the users too. If the government has to execute half of the country it's ok (well that's a little too far)

Hey - you could always move to Syria and join IS, then live out your dream of executing people who don't fit in with your view of the world. Problem is, they'd probably decapitate you first for the same reason. Still, fundamentally you do belong. Seriously, what an armchair fascist! Espousing such extremist crap from the comfort of your home - would love to see if you had the balls to go and start saying this kind of stuff in the real world.

What i mean is the punishment must be harder for criminals, users in jail for some little time but criminals, well...

bonatoc said:

Adorecream said:

Oh boo hoo hippie! Go hug a tree!

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Told me stuff I already know, well considering I am 40 and have every single adult tooth left and all still healthy, I am not worried about sugar intake. I live in New Zealand not America.

Steve Jobs died in his early 50s, he hardly survived, all but 2 beatles are alive, drugs kill and hugs thrill.

Some of us are blessed with the faculty of having their inner child recallable at will.
Some of us need a little help.

Again, I would love to live in a world where people are happy enough with their surroundings or themselves, and do not need YouPr0n, a bottle, a joint or a needle in the worst cases.
Some need power, some need food, some need to have sex constantly, it seems there is an addiction for every human being.

I'm happy that you stay out of this. Your personal history with it moved me.
I guess I was trying to explain how this works for people who use it.
I understand that it appears as a weakness, and it is, in many ways.

But in the proper conditions, there's something to be gained, it's hard to explain.
Sorry if this last phrase smells of proselytism (or rather, pot).

I admire your response, you are a mellow guy and alright with me.

I guess my overreaction is based on those experiences and it jaundices my opinion, especially when I love a lot of music that was composed by marijuana users, possibly under the influence.

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After I wrote that psycho response about drugs and hippies, I realised I was listening and digging a Jimi Hendrix song, I love Jimi Hendrix music and realise he was the biggest druggie of the lot. And my weakness for anything Beatle related and after (John Lennon, Wings, Harrison), they were the power of marijuana and music = hypocrisy for me!

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So I change my position to I am not into drugs, but don't mind if you just smoke some dope every now and then, or in my culture we call it dack, weed, electric puha or marley.

[Edited 11/13/15 8:34am]

Adorecream said: