morningsong said:

Trainer wins.

Fauxie said:

I can't be arsed to do anything at the moment that will get in the way of my work time and make me feel bad either by my not working out as much as I'd like or not doing as much work.

So all I do is hammer curls, bicep curls, shoulder press and squats with free weights one day and then an ab roller thing, push-ups and calf raises the next. I take a rest day about every 6 or 7 days. I need to do some cardio, but at the moment I just take shorts walks. Still a bit jittery sometimes from anxiety I got with shingles a couple of months ago.

I eat whatever I want, which tends to be chicken (fried or grilled), steak, bacon, eggs (10-15 a week, mostly fried), cheese, dark chocolate, squid, mussels, canned tuna, peanuts, sunflower seeds, occasional rice or noodles, and veggies (carrots, broccoli, kale, cabbage, mushrooms and tomatoes mostly). I don't really eat pasta, potatoes, bread, much rice or noodles, so low carbs, and very little sugar. I (well, my wife) fry with butter or the fat from bacon where possible. Crap oil, one assumes, for bought Thai food. I hardly ever drink alcohol and never have soft drinks. 99% of the time I drink water or loose green tea (maybe a litre a day). The latter has definitely helped me lose fat around the trunk area.

I'm very light right now (75 kg/165 lb) for my height (193 cm/almost 6 ft 4), but I'm quite happy with how things are going. I need to put a little bit on my legs. My ideal weight would be about 85 kg, but I'd be very happy anywhere over 80 kg.

This was me 6 months ago. I'm (even) skinnier now, but better defined. No gut now at all.

[Edited 6/13/15 22:42pm]

You call THAT a "gut"???

PurpleJedi said:

Fauxie said:

I can't be arsed to do anything at the moment that will get in the way of my work time and make me feel bad either by my not working out as much as I'd like or not doing as much work.

So all I do is hammer curls, bicep curls, shoulder press and squats with free weights one day and then an ab roller thing, push-ups and calf raises the next. I take a rest day about every 6 or 7 days. I need to do some cardio, but at the moment I just take shorts walks. Still a bit jittery sometimes from anxiety I got with shingles a couple of months ago.

I eat whatever I want, which tends to be chicken (fried or grilled), steak, bacon, eggs (10-15 a week, mostly fried), cheese, dark chocolate, squid, mussels, canned tuna, peanuts, sunflower seeds, occasional rice or noodles, and veggies (carrots, broccoli, kale, cabbage, mushrooms and tomatoes mostly). I don't really eat pasta, potatoes, bread, much rice or noodles, so low carbs, and very little sugar. I (well, my wife) fry with butter or the fat from bacon where possible. Crap oil, one assumes, for bought Thai food. I hardly ever drink alcohol and never have soft drinks. 99% of the time I drink water or loose green tea (maybe a litre a day). The latter has definitely helped me lose fat around the trunk area.

I'm very light right now (75 kg/165 lb) for my height (193 cm/almost 6 ft 4), but I'm quite happy with how things are going. I need to put a little bit on my legs. My ideal weight would be about 85 kg, but I'd be very happy anywhere over 80 kg.

This was me 6 months ago. I'm (even) skinnier now, but better defined. No gut now at all.

[Edited 6/13/15 22:42pm]

You call THAT a "gut"???

The little round bit in the middle there.

Fauxie said:

I can't be arsed to do anything at the moment that will get in the way of my work time and make me feel bad either by my not working out as much as I'd like or not doing as much work.

So all I do is hammer curls, bicep curls, shoulder press and squats with free weights one day and then an ab roller thing, push-ups and calf raises the next. I take a rest day about every 6 or 7 days. I need to do some cardio, but at the moment I just take shorts walks. Still a bit jittery sometimes from anxiety I got with shingles a couple of months ago.

I eat whatever I want, which tends to be chicken (fried or grilled), steak, bacon, eggs (10-15 a week, mostly fried), cheese, dark chocolate, squid, mussels, canned tuna, peanuts, sunflower seeds, occasional rice or noodles, and veggies (carrots, broccoli, kale, cabbage, mushrooms and tomatoes mostly). I don't really eat pasta, potatoes, bread, much rice or noodles, so low carbs, and very little sugar. I (well, my wife) fry with butter or the fat from bacon where possible. Crap oil, one assumes, for bought Thai food. I hardly ever drink alcohol and never have soft drinks. 99% of the time I drink water or loose green tea (maybe a litre a day). The latter has definitely helped me lose fat around the trunk area.

I'm very light right now (75 kg/165 lb) for my height (193 cm/almost 6 ft 4), but I'm quite happy with how things are going. I need to put a little bit on my legs. My ideal weight would be about 85 kg, but I'd be very happy anywhere over 80 kg.

This was me 6 months ago. I'm (even) skinnier now, but better defined. No gut now at all.

[Edited 6/13/15 22:42pm]

Certainly the best dietary intake and advice I've seen on this thread. You certainly won't lose weight by eating carbs such as bread, rice and pasta that's for sure yet alone beer. I'm also sorry to say you won't be losing weight by eating fruit. I am trying to go non to low carb as far as my diet is concerned. This means trying to eat protein (white meats and fish with vegetables). A typical day looks like this for me

Breakfast: A protein shake or eggs with green tea

Snack: 20g of nuts

Lunch: Salad with chicken

Snack: 20g nuts or an egg or two

Dinner: Chicken or fish with green veggies

I also take the following supplements: Omega 3, Multivitamins, Fibre powder, L-Leucine powder, BCAAs (before, during, after workouts), Magnesium. All readily available on I-Herb or as such.

I've cut out milk which is hard being a Brit as I like a drop with a cup of tea. If I have a hot beverage it's green tea now or an Americano as a treat. Caffeine has sadly had to go to. Next step is beer which is hard as most of my friends are drinkers at the weekend.

In terms of exercise, I hit the gym and have an alternative ABA and BAB routine. It's really simple with a few weight exercises. I also try to jog 2-3km after lifting for cardio. I think the problem and lack of motivation I see is that it's easy to get overawed if you've never been in a gym before. You don't know where to start or what weight. As such, I recommend looking at ths website for a beginners weight training program.... www.aworkoutroutine.com

I'm also training for my 2nd Dan taekwondo black belt test in November which involves sparring and breaking wood so I need to be in shape for that. I'm overweight weighing in at about 72kg at a height of about 5ft 7. I've neglected my body for too long and I feel like I'm getting back into the shape of my life.

JDInteractive said:

Fauxie said:

I can't be arsed to do anything at the moment that will get in the way of my work time and make me feel bad either by my not working out as much as I'd like or not doing as much work.

So all I do is hammer curls, bicep curls, shoulder press and squats with free weights one day and then an ab roller thing, push-ups and calf raises the next. I take a rest day about every 6 or 7 days. I need to do some cardio, but at the moment I just take shorts walks. Still a bit jittery sometimes from anxiety I got with shingles a couple of months ago.

I eat whatever I want, which tends to be chicken (fried or grilled), steak, bacon, eggs (10-15 a week, mostly fried), cheese, dark chocolate, squid, mussels, canned tuna, peanuts, sunflower seeds, occasional rice or noodles, and veggies (carrots, broccoli, kale, cabbage, mushrooms and tomatoes mostly). I don't really eat pasta, potatoes, bread, much rice or noodles, so low carbs, and very little sugar. I (well, my wife) fry with butter or the fat from bacon where possible. Crap oil, one assumes, for bought Thai food. I hardly ever drink alcohol and never have soft drinks. 99% of the time I drink water or loose green tea (maybe a litre a day). The latter has definitely helped me lose fat around the trunk area.

I'm very light right now (75 kg/165 lb) for my height (193 cm/almost 6 ft 4), but I'm quite happy with how things are going. I need to put a little bit on my legs. My ideal weight would be about 85 kg, but I'd be very happy anywhere over 80 kg.

This was me 6 months ago. I'm (even) skinnier now, but better defined. No gut now at all.

[Edited 6/13/15 22:42pm]

Certainly the best dietary intake and advice I've seen on this thread. You certainly won't lose weight by eating carbs such as bread, rice and pasta that's for sure yet alone beer. I'm also sorry to say you won't be losing weight by eating fruit. I am trying to go non to low carb as far as my diet is concerned. This means trying to eat protein (white meats and fish with vegetables). A typical day looks like this for me

Breakfast: A protein shake or eggs with green tea

Snack: 20g of nuts

Lunch: Salad with chicken

Snack: 20g nuts or an egg or two

Dinner: Chicken or fish with green veggies

I also take the following supplements: Omega 3, Multivitamins, Fibre powder, L-Leucine powder, BCAAs (before, during, after workouts), Magnesium. All readily available on I-Herb or as such.

I've cut out milk which is hard being a Brit as I like a drop with a cup of tea. If I have a hot beverage it's green tea now or an Americano as a treat. Caffeine has sadly had to go to. Next step is beer which is hard as most of my friends are drinkers at the weekend.

In terms of exercise, I hit the gym and have an alternative ABA and BAB routine. It's really simple with a few weight exercises. I also try to jog 2-3km after lifting for cardio. I think the problem and lack of motivation I see is that it's easy to get overawed if you've never been in a gym before. You don't know where to start or what weight. As such, I recommend looking at ths website for a beginners weight training program.... www.aworkoutroutine.com

I'm also training for my 2nd Dan taekwondo black belt test in November which involves sparring and breaking wood so I need to be in shape for that. I'm overweight weighing in at about 72kg at a height of about 5ft 7. I've neglected my body for too long and I feel like I'm getting back into the shape of my life.

Your diet looks pretty similar to mine. I had 3 fried eggs for breakfast this morning, a few handfuls of sunflower seeds mid-morning, then sweet and sour chicken Thai style (not thick and gloopy sauce) for lunch, without rice. I just get Thai food from the market and skip the rice, which gives me quite a lot of veggies usually. I'll have some more sunflower seeds in a bit, maybe some of my wife's grilled chicken to snack on, and then tonight I'll have a big salad with loads of different stuff in it, with a can of tuna dumped on top. I used to take protein powder and all sorts (glutamine, creatine, BCAAs etc.) but stopped. The protein made me feel bloated. The supps were just too expensive and not worth it for my very modest (skinny) frame and my commitment/goals. I've simplified everything and I'm happy with the balance. I don't want to put too much into it, but I want to be slim and have a little strength and generally feel healthy. I had a couple of beers a few days ago and really enjoyed them, but I'm glad I found some strength where alcohol is concerned and changed my habits from a few years ago when I drank several bottles of beer several times a week.

I'd feel overawed at the gym, I must confess. It's been years since I went to one anything like regularly. I much prefer doing free weights at home, although it's definitely a convenience thing too. I do work, odd little things around the house or whatever between sets, and that's how I fit it in and don't feel dread or unease about working out instead of working or doing other stuff I feel I should be doing. I look forward to working out now and never find it a chore anymore, which means everything! I don't put too much into it all, but what I do do, I do fully (not skipping workouts, not eating junk or 'cheating', because I've just picked up good habits). Short workouts, but I always do them without fail. Good food every day without fail. It's what I was always trying to get to, so I'm happy now.

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[Edited 6/19/15 0:02am]

y'all can thank me later

y'all can thank me later

KingBAD said:

y'all can thank me later

Ever notice that some of the most successful contest-eaters are actually skinny?

PurpleJedi said:

KingBAD said:

y'all can thank me later

Ever notice that some of the most successful contest-eaters are actually skinny?

didn't i say "YOU CAN THANK ME LATER"???

PurpleJedi said:

Revolution said:

I've started walking daily for my half hour lunch. Without changing my diet, I have noticed a difference. I read an article that was trying to determine whether diet or excercise was most important when trying to lose weight. If u could only do one. Diet was the winner. Excercise comes into play when u are trying to maintain ur weight loss, along with diet. I work two jobs, so time is crucial for me, however, I need to step up my workouts.

that's good! me, i need to do the same

i have been doing some aerobic dance about 3x's a week.

>>>>>>>> <<<<<<<< i'm finally back in control of my food intake.

so now to resume the walking back on a daily schedule.

via ur inspirational "step up" words.

Seems like my body has settled into a new "normal" weight.

For the longest time I used to weigh 160lbs.

Then I balloned up to 185 and I went through my initial "fitness" phase about 3 years ago (you may recall) and I actually went down to like 170. I even fit into a 32-inch waist pair of pants.

Then I recently ballooned up again. Went to the doctor and I hit over 190lbs for the first time ever. So I joined a gym, started eating better, drinking lots of water, cutting down on sugar & red meat, etc.

Before going to MPLS, I weighed 192lbs.

Now, after a month of solid working out, eating better (smaller portions even) I weighed myself this morning..193.4lbs!!!!!

thekidsgirl said:

Perhaps you've put on some muscle from all the work outs? Don't get discouraged

That's what I'm telling myself.


But in all honesty, for my height and bodyframe, I think I should be around 170.

MMA fighters my height (with 0% bodyfat) are around 140/150lbs.

I'm not discouraged as much as I am pissed off.

PurpleJedi said:

Every now & then, we need one of these threads don't you think?

So...I'm one of those people who are always jumping on the "getting in shape" bandwagon, only to fall off (sometimes almost immediately).

You may recall a few years back I was "seriously working out", but then as often happens to many folks...the lack of noticeable results completely deflated me and 2 years later, I'm at the heaviest that I've ever been.

So. Once again. Here I go.

you got my cheers

and thanks for starting this thread.

i joined in on this a coupla weeks ago. so glad i did. right now i'm keeping my stats and my weight goal under raps.

so anyway,

i had a real urge to fix something to eat just a few ago although i did not feel hungry, i just really enjoy the taste of my cooking, via from my texas born mom.

however i jumped the unecessary food intake hurdle and settled for some apple cider (1/2 cup) poured into my blender with about 7 cubs of ice.

the crushed ice rises to the top of my cup. (i use a straw so's to take my time drinking the cider). then when the ice cold cider is gone, i just pour my spring water over the ice that is left.

my food urge left.

so once again, thx.

PurpleJedi

PurpleJedi said:

thekidsgirl said:

Perhaps you've put on some muscle from all the work outs? Don't get discouraged

That's what I'm telling myself.


But in all honesty, for my height and bodyframe, I think I should be around 170.

MMA fighters my height (with 0% bodyfat) are around 140/150lbs.

I'm not discouraged as much as I am pissed off.

exercise is pretty much useless for weight loss, exercising simply makes you hungrier

do it only for strength and feeling good

to build muscle you need a calorie surplus, a calorie deficit will cause you to lose muscle

cut the sugar and refined carbs completely, do short bursts of cardio ie. sprints, lift heavy weights but low reps

EAT FAT and PROTEIN for calorie surplus

PurpleJedi said:

thekidsgirl said:

Perhaps you've put on some muscle from all the work outs? Don't get discouraged

That's what I'm telling myself.


But in all honesty, for my height and bodyframe, I think I should be around 170.

MMA fighters my height (with 0% bodyfat) are around 140/150lbs.

I'm not discouraged as much as I am pissed off.

oh hey. don't be hard on yourself. i've seen your pics - you carry whatever extra weight you have really well. you're a cutie pie

XxAxX said:

PurpleJedi said:

That's what I'm telling myself.


But in all honesty, for my height and bodyframe, I think I should be around 170.

MMA fighters my height (with 0% bodyfat) are around 140/150lbs.

I'm not discouraged as much as I am pissed off.

oh hey. don't be hard on yourself. i've seen your pics - you carry whatever extra weight you have really well. you're a cutie pie

He sure is.

PurpleJedi said:

thekidsgirl said:

Perhaps you've put on some muscle from all the work outs? Don't get discouraged

That's what I'm telling myself.


But in all honesty, for my height and bodyframe, I think I should be around 170.

MMA fighters my height (with 0% bodyfat) are around 140/150lbs.

I'm not discouraged as much as I am pissed off.

Like what everybody else has said, don't get discouraged. This has happened to me too, the hard workouts, eating right and it seeming like it's not paying off once you get on the scale....however, just keep on doing what you are doing. I honestly believe, in the beginning, your body tries to hold on to what it's used to, so when we start working out, its sort of...laughing at us in a way...but when you keep it up, then its forced to change. The thing that works for me is not getting on the scale as much. Shift your motivation to focusing more on getting stronger and waking up feeling great with energy as opposed to how many pounds lost for the week. It's a mental game type of thing. Keep believing in yourself that you will get the body that you want and have faith that it will come all in due time and not overnight.

Your thread has motivated me about getting real about working out seriously again. I'm thinking hard about switching my gym membership from my workplace to one near my home so that I'm able to workout during the week and go to Zumba or Insanity classes on the weekends in the mornings. Do you realize how many people you motivated with this one little thread?

[Edited 6/24/15 4:57am]

If you completely cut out sugar you will be surpised at how much weight you will lose, and how much better you feel....after the shock of no sugar leaves your body. I don't agree with the diet that was posted here. Limit your fruits/carbs and stop eating pasta. There are sooo many unbelievable foodie blogs out there. I suggest doing the Whole 30 diet. Lots of great results.

As for motivation...only you can work on that. Don't give yourself an option of not working out. You'd be surprised what you can do when you HAVE to do it.

Good luck!

JoeTyler said:

PROGRAM FOR 2-3 MONTHS

DIET

a) fruit for breakfast, juice and some bread-toasts, that's all

b) rice or pasta, fish or seitan with dried fruit and/or lettuce/tomatoes should be all you need for dinner; replacing cow meat for seitan is recommended

c) lunch should be barebones; some fish+toasts+water is recommended

d) drink lots of water, by lots I mean lots

e) forget about sweets, hamburgers, hot dogs, pork, fried chicken, sodas etc.

+

EXERCISE

a) focus on running; at least 30-45 min four times a week

b) sit-ups and push-ups are your DAILY friends

c) doing lift-ups is healthy for the body even if you're not interested in bulky biceps

d) if you have access to a pool or to a beach, by all means go there and swim, your body will benefit from it, mightly

--

and one last thing, if this is about losing the fat first and then getting toned later, you MUST endure pain, you must feel HUNGRY (not necessarily WEAK- B-I-G difference-), otherwise you're doing it wrong

[Edited 6/9/15 7:53am]

Why cut out pork? Fried chicken? I eat that four or five times a week. My most regular breakfast is 3 fried eggs and some bacon and/or sausages and I'm at my lowest BF% since I was a teenager, under 10%. Not liking the bread, pasta and rice there. My wife cut down her rice significantly and she's at her lowest weight in over 10 years. One of her regular customers in her shop followed her lead and lost 3 kg in a month by doing that alone. Regular white rice is non-food, just starchy, bloating crap. Fruit more than once a day is almost certainly going to mean too much sugar, no? Better to go with more veggie, imho.

Fauxie said:

okay, okay, i've lost 3lbs since my last post. the food addiction thingy i was going thru has finally subsided.

and i've got my laptop set up on plastic stackable crates so i can stand while in use.

Fauxie said:

JoeTyler said:

PROGRAM FOR 2-3 MONTHS

DIET

a) fruit for breakfast, juice and some bread-toasts, that's all

b) rice or pasta, fish or seitan with dried fruit and/or lettuce/tomatoes should be all you need for dinner; replacing cow meat for seitan is recommended

c) lunch should be barebones; some fish+toasts+water is recommended

d) drink lots of water, by lots I mean lots

e) forget about sweets, hamburgers, hot dogs, pork, fried chicken, sodas etc.

+

EXERCISE

a) focus on running; at least 30-45 min four times a week

b) sit-ups and push-ups are your DAILY friends

c) doing lift-ups is healthy for the body even if you're not interested in bulky biceps

d) if you have access to a pool or to a beach, by all means go there and swim, your body will benefit from it, mightly

--

and one last thing, if this is about losing the fat first and then getting toned later, you MUST endure pain, you must feel HUNGRY (not necessarily WEAK- B-I-G difference-), otherwise you're doing it wrong

[Edited 6/9/15 7:53am]

Why cut out pork? Fried chicken? I eat that four or five times a week. My most regular breakfast is 3 fried eggs and some bacon and/or sausages and I'm at my lowest BF% since I was a teenager, under 10%. Not liking the bread, pasta and rice there. My wife cut down her rice significantly and she's at her lowest weight in over 10 years. One of her regular customers in her shop followed her lead and lost 3 kg in a month by doing that alone. Regular white rice is non-food, just starchy, bloating crap. Fruit more than once a day is almost certainly going to mean too much sugar, no? Better to go with more veggie, imho.

it's the JT method; the necessary energy to do exercise, simple as that, gasoline for the body, which has to be burned; of course, you won't get results if you eat all that but still sit your ass down on a sofa

pork is fat for the arteries and fried chicken is nasty and gross and criminal

JoeTyler said:

JoeTyler said:

Fauxie said:

Why cut out pork? Fried chicken? I eat that four or five times a week. My most regular breakfast is 3 fried eggs and some bacon and/or sausages and I'm at my lowest BF% since I was a teenager, under 10%. Not liking the bread, pasta and rice there. My wife cut down her rice significantly and she's at her lowest weight in over 10 years. One of her regular customers in her shop followed her lead and lost 3 kg in a month by doing that alone. Regular white rice is non-food, just starchy, bloating crap. Fruit more than once a day is almost certainly going to mean too much sugar, no? Better to go with more veggie, imho.

it's the JT method; the necessary energy to do exercise, simple as that, gasoline for the body, which has to be burned; of course, you won't get results if you eat all that but still sit your ass down on a sofa

pork is fat for the arteries and fried chicken is nasty and gross and criminal

Bacon is everything, so shut up.

ZombieKitten said:

Fauxie said:

Why cut out pork? Fried chicken? I eat that four or five times a week. My most regular breakfast is 3 fried eggs and some bacon and/or sausages and I'm at my lowest BF% since I was a teenager, under 10%. Not liking the bread, pasta and rice there. My wife cut down her rice significantly and she's at her lowest weight in over 10 years. One of her regular customers in her shop followed her lead and lost 3 kg in a month by doing that alone. Regular white rice is non-food, just starchy, bloating crap. Fruit more than once a day is almost certainly going to mean too much sugar, no? Better to go with more veggie, imho.

There's my favourite (well, only) nutrition guru!

I want to eat fried eggs and bacon for breakfast every day for 2 months (I mean, maybe scrambled on Sunday, with the odd mushroom or tomato too) when I go back to the UK. I have a super-duper non-stick pan and don't plan to use any oil or fat for the eggs, and of course bacon rashers (I love that word) release their own lubricating juices once you start frying those bad boys (see, they want to be fried!). Do you see me having any issues with that? I will also, like last time, have a handful of blueberries and/or raspberries each morning too.