uPtoWnNY said:

phunkdaddy said:

Sixers fans have suffered long enough. It's time for some progression. If they don't use the 3rd pick on one of these top guards(Russell)I will just give up on this franchise.

Yes they have. Even Laker fans like me know that basketball is better when the traditional Atlantic Division powers -- PHI, NY, BOS -- are contenders.

This video says it all.

http://uproxx.com/dimemag/2015/06/heres-a-video-of-lebron-james-traveling-during-games/

phunkdaddy said:

Speaking of the draft I hope Philly doesn't pull some Harold Katz shit and shit the draft away. Sixers fans have suffered long enough. It's time for some progression. If they don't use the 3rd pick on one of these top guards(Russell)I will just give up on this franchise.

Philly will have a big say in what the Knicks do. Because of Embid's injury setback, rumor has them taking the Latvian kid Porzingis. That would leave Russell or Winslow to the Knicks - I'd love that.

Kevin Love opted out of his contract (what a shock, lol), and Georga Karl wants to trade Cousins. Talk about a hot mess in Sacramento.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--george-karl-pushing-for-kings-to-trade-demarcus-cousins-051748948.html

RJOrion said:

Knicks need Cauley-Stein...he'll be even better in the NBA and he was a stud in college...id take him over Okafor straight up...Okafor could be a glorified Jared Dullinger...similar body type and a horrible defender...Kaminsky killed him in the tournament...Knicks need a big man that can defend and play above the rim...Cauley Stein offensive game better than people think...he hardly had any touches at Kentucky with the Harrison twins and Booker and Towns...Winslow too small to play forward in the NBA...cant speak on Mudiay and Porzingis cause other than highlights i havent really seen them play against anyone real

Really? I keep hearing he's another Tyson Chandler.

uPtoWnNY said:

RJOrion said:

Knicks need Cauley-Stein...he'll be even better in the NBA and he was a stud in college...id take him over Okafor straight up...Okafor could be a glorified Jared Dullinger...similar body type and a horrible defender...Kaminsky killed him in the tournament...Knicks need a big man that can defend and play above the rim...Cauley Stein offensive game better than people think...he hardly had any touches at Kentucky with the Harrison twins and Booker and Towns...Winslow too small to play forward in the NBA...cant speak on Mudiay and Porzingis cause other than highlights i havent really seen them play against anyone real

Really? I keep hearing he's another Tyson Chandler.

he's already a much better ball handler, and more versatile around the rim offensively....Chandler can only score on putbacks and alleyoops...CaulyStein is faster end to end and obviously younger than Chandler who himself, helped the Knicks get a 54 win season....Phil never hould have traded him in the first place for Calderon (scrub)..they did that to dump salary and dump Felton, but they clearly missed his presence on the defensive end...CauleyStein will give them that, plus his offensive game is hidden and still growing...if not him, take Mudiay...his back-story and his cosigns (Larry Brown, Jay Bilas, etc) are intriguing...and the Knicks need an upper echelon point guard ...

Knicks drafted Frederic Weis Jr. Isiah Thomas would have made a smarter pick.

This franchise is cursed.

uPtoWnNY said:

Knicks drafted Frederic Weis Jr. Isiah Thomas would have made a smarter pick.

This franchise is cursed.

word...this boy better be Dirk Nowitzski Jr...he looks good in these highlights...but they mostly against air, or against little german and russian dudes...i woulda took Cauley Stein or Mudiay....i wanna be mad but the Knicks suck so bad, maybe this fool will be what they say he can...im not holding my breath on it... im sure Isaiah had been in Dolan's ear about who to pick.

[Edited 6/26/15 4:17am]

RJOrion said:

Knicks traded Hardaway Jr for Jerian Grant... good move...i like it alot...Grant can plant both guard positions and is about 6'6...Hardaway plays no D, cant pass, and he pouts when his shot aint falling

Jerian Grant is a good player. I feel yall on the Porzingis pick. I was so afraid Philly was

gonna draft him. He may turn out to be good but he definitely needs to get bigger. Philly couldn't afford to draft a guy that's not a sure thing. I'm still having Shawn Bradley nightmares. I'm

ecstatic Okafor fell to Philly. He wasn't a bad consolation prize after the Lakers took

DAngelo Russell.

Fuck Phil Jackson, fuck his stupid triangle and fuck the Knicks.

30 years of front office ineptitude....I'm done.....

uPtoWnNY said:

Knicks drafted Frederic Weis Jr. Isiah Thomas would have made a smarter pick.

This franchise is cursed.

I think this guy can play. Major skill set as well.

Graycap23 said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Knicks drafted Frederic Weis Jr. Isiah Thomas would have made a smarter pick.

This franchise is cursed.

I think this guy can play. Major skill set as well.

Carmelo doesn't have 2-3 years for this cat to develop.

RJOrion said:

the 13 minute Kristaps Porzingis Highlights on youtube make him look like Pau Gasol mixed with KevinDurant type range and shooting ability...but thats him playing against little eastern europeans...im worried that once he plays against grown ass NBA men, he might be Shawn Bradley Jr....Grant was a real nice pickup though...dude was 1rst team allamerican, and was a stud in the tournament

This guy has some skills.

I understand why Phil drafted this guy.

There will be a lot of people eating their words on this pick.

[Edited 6/26/15 8:14am]

Being a Knick fan is like being Sonny Corleone at that toll booth.

Graycap23 said:

RJOrion said:

the 13 minute Kristaps Porzingis Highlights on youtube make him look like Pau Gasol mixed with KevinDurant type range and shooting ability...but thats him playing against little eastern europeans...im worried that once he plays against grown ass NBA men, he might be Shawn Bradley Jr....Grant was a real nice pickup though...dude was 1rst team allamerican, and was a stud in the tournament

This guy has some skills.

I understand why Phil drafted this guy.

There will be a lot of people eating their words on this pick.

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I hope so, because if Justice Winslow becomes a player, and Porzingas does not, the Knicks will rue the day.

namepeace said:

Graycap23 said:

This guy has some skills.

I understand why Phil drafted this guy.

There will be a lot of people eating their words on this pick.

[Edited 6/26/15 8:14am]

I hope so, because if Justice Winslow becomes a player, and Porzingas does not, the Knicks will rue the day.

Draft = Roulette

Graycap23 said:

namepeace said:

I hope so, because if Justice Winslow becomes a player, and Porzingas does not, the Knicks will rue the day.

Draft = Roulette

All the same . . ..

namepeace said:

Graycap23 said:

Draft = Roulette

All the same . . ..

Agreed.

Okafor is a stiff on the defensive end...Kaminsky ate him up in the tournament and he wasnt the only one...Okafor gonna get exposed on D in the NBA...

RJOrion said:

Okafor is a stiff on the defensive end...Kaminsky ate him up in the tournament and he wasnt the only one...Okafor gonna get exposed on D in the NBA...

He has time to refine that part of his game. Brett Brown will teach him to be better

on that end.

Graycap23 said:

namepeace said:

I hope so, because if Justice Winslow becomes a player, and Porzingas does not, the Knicks will rue the day.

Draft = Roulette

But you don't draft a project at #4. Let's see Frederic Weis Jr do his thing against grown ass men.

uPtoWnNY said:

Graycap23 said:

Draft = Roulette

But you don't draft a project at #4. Let's see Frederic Weis Jr do his thing against grown ass men.

U do if he has a BIG upside.

Graycap23 said:

uPtoWnNY said:

But you don't draft a project at #4. Let's see Frederic Weis Jr do his thing against grown ass men.

U do if he has a BIG upside.

With the NBA Draft, it seems like ANY pick outside of the top 3 is a crapshoot. So teams at 4 have really difficult choices to make, and will get killed on the back end if the final choice causes them to miss out on player picked afterwards who happens to hit.

Most scouts are saying the Knicks made the right choice at 4. But the right choice might still be a bust.