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Thread started 05/02/15 10:57pm

Abdul

Mayweather vs. Pacquiao

Floyd showed tonight why he's the best of this era, he imposed his will on Manny and forced him to fight his fight.

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Reply #1 posted 05/02/15 11:05pm

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Good fight. I had it closer, 115-113 for mayweather. About 4 or 5 rounds could have gone either way. Pac worked best when he jumped in and threw haymakers. That's the only way to beat him.
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Reply #2 posted 05/02/15 11:07pm

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For those close rounds I always give to the aggressor. Money ran all night.
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Reply #3 posted 05/02/15 11:16pm

Abdul

Revolution said:

For those close rounds I always give to the aggressor. Money ran all night.

Lateral movement is part of boxing, Manny's always had trouble with fighters who use movement, he lacks the boxing IQ to beat a guy like Mayweather

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Reply #4 posted 05/02/15 11:41pm

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Mayweather made him look silly; Dr. of the Sweet Science.

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Suge Knight is one happy mothafucka right now!

Make it so, Number One...
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Reply #5 posted 05/02/15 11:51pm

Abdul

Now at the post fight press conference, Manny, his trainer Freddie Roach, and his promoter Bob Arum are saying that Manny injured his right shoulder in training camp and that's why he didn't throw alot of punches like he normally does....... BULLSHIT!!! LMAO!!!

Manny almost never uses his right, he's VERY left hand dominant, Floyd figured that out early and took advantge of it.

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Reply #6 posted 05/03/15 12:15am

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I watched the fight because of all the hype and excitement but honestly I know nothing about boxing. Would you say this was an exciting fight? It actually seemed a bit slow at times. Also Mayweather must be a much smoother boxer than I expected. It didn't seem like he threw as many punches as what they tallied in the end. Some how Manny looked like he threw more punches. I was entertained over all any way.
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Reply #7 posted 05/03/15 12:20am

Abdul

dancerella said:

I watched the fight because of all the hype and excitement but honestly I know nothing about boxing. Would you say this was an exciting fight? It actually seemed a bit slow at times. Also Mayweather must be a much smoother boxer than I expected. It didn't seem like he threw as many punches as what they tallied in the end. Some how Manny looked like he threw more punches. I was entertained over all any way.

For me it was very exciting, for me the best fights are the ones where you have contrasting styles and this one was that and then some.

I'm biased though, boxing is my favorite sport, I'm a boxing geek, lol!!

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Reply #8 posted 05/03/15 3:15am

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Stayed up until 5am here in the UK and totally wasn't worth it.

Anyone else think Manny was never up for it? Taking selfies on the way to the ring? With the money agreed between the wife beater Floyd and Manny regardless of the outcome it wouldn't surprise me if they knew this would only be n exhibition fight.
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Reply #9 posted 05/03/15 7:04am

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Manny almost never uses his right, he's VERY left hand dominant, Floyd figured that out early and took advantge of it.


This doesn't make any sense, Abdul.

Pacquiao is a southpaw who uses his right hand to jab with. He then delivers the left hand,
which is his stronger hand, for its devastating effect. To say that he "almost never uses his
right hand" is actually insane as he probably uses his right hand more than his left! Most boxers,
if not all, utilize the weaker hand as the jab which is the most thrown punch during a match.

Anyways, I streamed the fight online (piracy) as I learned years ago that Mayweather fights are
not worth their purchasing. He's a boring boxer. That being said, he outpointed Manny, who is
blaming his ineffectiveness on a bad shoulder. Well, guess what? Mayweather reported that he
was injured too!

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Reply #10 posted 05/03/15 7:07am

duccichucka

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For those close rounds I always give to the aggressor.


Me too.

That being said, Mayweather won the fight. Pacquiao wasn't throwing punches and was
clearly not right. But Mayweather doesn't run; he's a defensive counter-puncher which
means he's not going to press his opponent offensively. He waits to see what you throw
first and then he answers.

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Reply #11 posted 05/03/15 10:37am

dancerella

Abdul said:



dancerella said:


I watched the fight because of all the hype and excitement but honestly I know nothing about boxing. Would you say this was an exciting fight? It actually seemed a bit slow at times. Also Mayweather must be a much smoother boxer than I expected. It didn't seem like he threw as many punches as what they tallied in the end. Some how Manny looked like he threw more punches. I was entertained over all any way.


For me it was very exciting, for me the best fights are the ones where you have contrasting styles and this one was that and then some.



I'm biased though, boxing is my favorite sport, I'm a boxing geek, lol!!




Interesting...It seems Oscar De La Hoya wasn't too impressed either. Saying it was lacking excitement but to each his own. I was definitely entertained.
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Reply #12 posted 05/03/15 12:24pm

Abdul

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This doesn't make any sense, Abdul.

Pacquiao is a southpaw who uses his right hand to jab with. He then delivers the left hand,
which is his stronger hand, for its devastating effect. To say that he "almost never uses his
right hand" is actually insane as he probably uses his right hand more than his left! Most boxers,
if not all, utilize the weaker hand as the jab which is the most thrown punch during a match.

Your describing a normal southpaw which Pacquiao ain't, he sets nothing up with a jab, it's one of the problems he had with Mayweather last night. Manny at times will throw a right hook, straight to set up his left which has been effective because he normally has the hand speed advantage, but not last night.

It's one of the big deals they make about Freddie Roach being his trainer, teaching him to use his right hand more, but he still barely uses it for nothing more then I described.

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Reply #13 posted 05/03/15 12:35pm

kpowers

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Was rooting for Pacquiao but had a feeling Mayweather would win

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Reply #14 posted 05/03/15 1:06pm

duccichucka

Abdul said:

duccichucka said:


This doesn't make any sense, Abdul.

Pacquiao is a southpaw who uses his right hand to jab with. He then delivers the left hand,
which is his stronger hand, for its devastating effect. To say that he "almost never uses his
right hand" is actually insane as he probably uses his right hand more than his left! Most boxers,
if not all, utilize the weaker hand as the jab which is the most thrown punch during a match.

Your describing a normal southpaw which Pacquiao ain't, he sets nothing up with a jab, it's one of the problems he had with Mayweather last night. Manny at times will throw a right hook, straight to set up his left which has been effective because he normally has the hand speed advantage, but not last night.

It's one of the big deals they make about Freddie Roach being his trainer, teaching him to use his right hand more, but he still barely uses it for nothing more then I described.


There's no way that you can watch a Manny Pacquiao fight and see him "almost never" use his
right hand. That's just ridiculous. Every fighter in boxing uses a jab to set up their power
punch, which in this case is Pacquiao's left hand. Manny does not go into any fight and throws
one punch. He throws combinations on top of the jab.

So, I'm not describing a normal southpaw. I'm describing every single boxer! They all use both
hands. No boxer in history "almost never" uses one hand, whether it be an orthodox fighter or
a southpaw or some hybrid. Your post made it seem like Pacquiao fights with one hand being
utterly useless and unused - that's not the case. He doesn't "almost never" use his right hand;
he uses both hands like 100% of boxers do.

Last night, Pacquiao couldn't throw the right hand as much as he needed to because he had a
shoulder injury.


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Reply #15 posted 05/03/15 2:17pm

Abdul

duccichucka said:


There's no way that you can watch a Manny Pacquiao fight and see him "almost never" use his
right hand. That's just ridiculous. Every fighter in boxing uses a jab to set up their power
punch, which in this case is Pacquiao's left hand. Manny does not go into any fight and throws
one punch. He throws combinations on top of the jab.

So, I'm not describing a normal southpaw. I'm describing every single boxer! They all use both
hands. No boxer in history "almost never" uses one hand, whether it be an orthodox fighter or
a southpaw or some hybrid. Your post made it seem like Pacquiao fights with one hand being
utterly useless and unused - that's not the case. He doesn't "almost never" use his right hand;
he uses both hands like 100% of boxers do.

Last night, Pacquiao couldn't throw the right hand as much as he needed to because he had a
shoulder injury.


Pacquiao isn't every fighter, he doesn't use a jab to set up power punches, like I said it's always hooks, straights and when that doesn't work he lunges forward. Anybody that's watches enough Pacquiao fights sees this, knows this.

Yeah his shoulder was injured......BULLSHIT! LMAO! I guess his shoulder is injured every fight then... lol!

[Edited 5/3/15 14:18pm]

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Reply #16 posted 05/03/15 3:14pm

duccichucka

Abdul said:

duccichucka said:


There's no way that you can watch a Manny Pacquiao fight and see him "almost never" use his
right hand. That's just ridiculous. Every fighter in boxing uses a jab to set up their power
punch, which in this case is Pacquiao's left hand. Manny does not go into any fight and throws
one punch. He throws combinations on top of the jab.

So, I'm not describing a normal southpaw. I'm describing every single boxer! They all use both
hands. No boxer in history "almost never" uses one hand, whether it be an orthodox fighter or
a southpaw or some hybrid. Your post made it seem like Pacquiao fights with one hand being
utterly useless and unused - that's not the case. He doesn't "almost never" use his right hand;
he uses both hands like 100% of boxers do.

Last night, Pacquiao couldn't throw the right hand as much as he needed to because he had a
shoulder injury.


Pacquiao isn't every fighter, he doesn't use a jab to set up power punches, like I said it's always hooks, straights and when that doesn't work he lunges forward. Anybody that's watches enough Pacquiao fights sees this, knows this.

Yeah his shoulder was injured......BULLSHIT! LMAO! I guess his shoulder is injured every fight then... lol!

[Edited 5/3/15 14:18pm]


Dude, there isn't a boxer on this planet who doesn't work a jab. Get outta here with that "al-
most never" stuff; it just doesn't fly. Go look at Pacquiao's fights versus Marquez or even Chris
Algieri - he's throwing his right hand all the time! My point to you is that you are exaggerating
when it comes to what Manny throws - he punches with both of his hands just like everybody
else.

And if his shoulder wasn't injured, then something was wrong. Look at the punches thrown:
Mayweather threw 435 to Manny's 429! A counter-puncher should not throw more punches
than an offensive-minded fighter. Pacquiao only landed 81 punches in this fight but was
averaging 670+ punches per 36 minutes in his most recent fights. He threw 241 less punches
vs Mayweather than his recent bouts.

Mayweather reports that he was suffering from injuries as well. My point in mentioning Manny's
low output is not to offer a defense as to why he lost; I don't care that his shoulder was injured.
I raised this point to show you that he didn't throw many punches last night because he was
hurt, and not because he "almost never" uses his right hand, which is just simply ridiculous. By
the way, Compubox indicates Manny threw 193 jabs in this fight (45%), so he's gotta be using
his right hand more than "almost never."


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Reply #17 posted 05/03/15 3:23pm

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Too much headlocking, hugging, and running from Mayweather. He's a freaking coward mad
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Reply #18 posted 05/03/15 3:36pm

duccichucka

funkycat00 said:

Too much headlocking, hugging, and running from Mayweather. He's a freaking coward mad


He's not a coward; at least in the ring.

See, this is the opinion of someone who really doesn't watch boxing. Manny Pacquiao is a heavy
handed puncher who on a good day is an excellent knock out artist and fighter. Floyd Mayweather
is a defense minded boxer (he's not a fighter - there's a difference) who relies upon his speed
and intellect to out point his opponents. Mayweather does not look for knock-outs. He takes
full advantage of the pointing system.

He avoided Pacquiao's power and refrained from remaining stationary and flat footed as he could
not survive an outright fight in the middle of the ring. Pacquiao is quoted as saying something along
the lines of "I could have hit him more if he stood still longer." Um, Mayweather isn't going to stand
still and let you knock him out! I don't understand why more boxers don't figure out how to neu-
tralize Mayweather's shoulder roll. And the head locking and hugging is a tactic employed by all
boxers when they are tired or getting the short end of an exchange. It's viable technique taught
in boxing 101.

Mayweather, a documented wife beater, may be a coward outside of the ring. But inside, he's just
really savvy. It would have been insane for him to get into a drawn out exchange of fisticuffs with
Pacquiao.

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Reply #19 posted 05/03/15 3:36pm

Revolution

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funkycat00 said:

Too much headlocking, hugging, and running from Mayweather. He's a freaking coward mad


Lol. I wouldn't say that, but the only thing that he has is God given quickness. He is not a strong puncher. He is very beatable when u bum rush him. Pac was winning with that strategy but gave up on it.
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Reply #20 posted 05/03/15 5:36pm

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funkycat00 said:

Too much headlocking, hugging, and running from Mayweather. He's a freaking coward mad

I swear I thought I was watching a wrestling match.

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Reply #21 posted 05/03/15 7:02pm

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Good for you Mayweather fans...


Mayweather is a known, accomplished woman beater and this is his son's account of the violence, congrats...

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Reply #22 posted 05/03/15 8:21pm

Abdul

duccichucka said:

Abdul said:

Pacquiao isn't every fighter, he doesn't use a jab to set up power punches, like I said it's always hooks, straights and when that doesn't work he lunges forward. Anybody that's watches enough Pacquiao fights sees this, knows this.

Yeah his shoulder was injured......BULLSHIT! LMAO! I guess his shoulder is injured every fight then... lol!

[Edited 5/3/15 14:18pm]


Dude, there isn't a boxer on this planet who doesn't work a jab. Get outta here with that "al-
most never" stuff; it just doesn't fly. Go look at Pacquiao's fights versus Marquez or even Chris
Algieri - he's throwing his right hand all the time! My point to you is that you are exaggerating
when it comes to what Manny throws - he punches with both of his hands just like everybody
else.

And if his shoulder wasn't injured, then something was wrong. Look at the punches thrown:
Mayweather threw 435 to Manny's 429! A counter-puncher should not throw more punches
than an offensive-minded fighter. Pacquiao only landed 81 punches in this fight but was
averaging 670+ punches per 36 minutes in his most recent fights. He threw 241 less punches
vs Mayweather than his recent bouts.

Mayweather reports that he was suffering from injuries as well. My point in mentioning Manny's
low output is not to offer a defense as to why he lost; I don't care that his shoulder was injured.
I raised this point to show you that he didn't throw many punches last night because he was
hurt, and not because he "almost never" uses his right hand, which is just simply ridiculous. By
the way, Compubox indicates Manny threw 193 jabs in this fight (45%), so he's gotta be using
his right hand more than "almost never."


1. Pacquiao doesn't work the jab, he depends on speed and reflexes to get to you, and in most cases it works

2.Trust me I've watched those fights plenty and in both he wasn't using his jab to set up his punches in either.He would fient with his right often in those bouts, especially against Algeri. It's common knowledge amongst the hardcore boxing fans that it's one of Pacquiao's flaws, his lack of a consistent jab to set up his attacks. He's more of an ambush fighter and in most of his fights, it's worked for him.

3.He was in against a puzzle named Mayweather he couldn't solve, his punches in bunches were reduced to 81 because of it. All Mayweather opponents throw less because of his sharpe counter punching, Manny was no different.

4. Compubox is B.S., no way he threw 193 jabs, LOL!!

[Edited 5/3/15 21:11pm]

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Reply #23 posted 05/03/15 8:51pm

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funkycat00 said:

Too much headlocking, hugging, and running from Mayweather. He's a freaking coward mad

Yes, but I could watch pacman all day long.
He's love ly


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Reply #24 posted 05/04/15 3:24am

Rebeljuice

I thought the fight was pretty dull. Not what I expected. At the end of 12 rounds neither fighter was particularly hurt. It was more a game of chess than a boxing match. I was expecting at least one of them to come out bruised and battered, with both fighters exhausted and on their last legs. They could have both gone into the gym for a workout after that fight.

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Rebeljuice said:

I thought the fight was pretty dull. Not what I expected. At the end of 12 rounds neither fighter was particularly hurt. It was more a game of chess than a boxing match. I was expecting at least one of them to come out bruised and battered, with both fighters exhausted and on their last legs. They could have both gone into the gym for a workout after that fight.

This isn't Rocky! lol

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Reply #26 posted 05/04/15 5:02am

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For what it was worth, I thought it was a decent fight. I would had been highly pissed if it would have ended early with a knockout. I was rooting for Pacquiao but of course the expected happened instead. Even though Pacquiao didn't land many punches that he threw, I feel that there were a few that shook up Floyd a little. The only way Pacquiao could have won that fight was to have knocked Floyd out cold. I had to chuckle when Pacquiao said at the end of the fight that he though he had won. Really? lol

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Reply #27 posted 05/04/15 8:19am

V10LETBLUES

The fight itself was ok. Major props for Mayweather who is about to exit the sport and not get hurt. Pacquio needed to thank him for that. They made big money expoliting stupid people wanted to see minorities beat the crap put of each other isntead of the other way around. Nice! Way to change it up.

I was at a party and was ready for a good fight, but like going to SeaWorld and expecting the animals to perform for your amusement, I gotta say there was guilt and hypocrisy exposed. We ate Grinders and drank lots of beer too. lol

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V10LETBLUES said:

The fight itself was ok. Major props for Mayweather who is about to exit the sport and not get hurt. Pacquio needed to thank him for that. They made big money expoliting stupid people wanted to see minorities beat the crap put of each other isntead of the other way around. Nice! Way to change it up.

I was at a party and was ready for a good fight, but like going to SeaWorld and expecting the animals to perform for your amusement, I gotta say there was guilt and hypocrisy exposed. We ate Grinders and drank lots of beer too. lol



You make it sound like Floyd and Manny were forced into a life of boxing... rolleyes
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Reply #29 posted 05/04/15 12:42pm

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DaveT said:

V10LETBLUES said:

The fight itself was ok. Major props for Mayweather who is about to exit the sport and not get hurt. Pacquio needed to thank him for that. They made big money expoliting stupid people wanted to see minorities beat the crap put of each other isntead of the other way around. Nice! Way to change it up.

I was at a party and was ready for a good fight, but like going to SeaWorld and expecting the animals to perform for your amusement, I gotta say there was guilt and hypocrisy exposed. We ate Grinders and drank lots of beer too. lol



You make it sound like Floyd and Manny were forced into a life of boxing... rolleyes


Im merely giving props to Mayweather. His last fight is in September and he is not too far gone to see that boxing his last fights without further injuring himself with a guaranteed payout was the way to go. He ended the fight with dignity and poise praising Manny along the way.
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