RenHoek said:

Good for you Mayweather fans...


Mayweather is a known, accomplished woman beater and this is his son's account of the violence, congrats...

Why you're mixing morality with sports is beyond me.

Abdul said:

duccichucka said:

Dude, there isn't a boxer on this planet who doesn't work a jab. Get outta here with that "al-
most never" stuff; it just doesn't fly. Go look at Pacquiao's fights versus Marquez or even Chris
Algieri - he's throwing his right hand all the time! My point to you is that you are exaggerating
when it comes to what Manny throws - he punches with both of his hands just like everybody
else.

And if his shoulder wasn't injured, then something was wrong. Look at the punches thrown:
Mayweather threw 435 to Manny's 429! A counter-puncher should not throw more punches
than an offensive-minded fighter. Pacquiao only landed 81 punches in this fight but was
averaging 670+ punches per 36 minutes in his most recent fights. He threw 241 less punches
vs Mayweather than his recent bouts.

Mayweather reports that he was suffering from injuries as well. My point in mentioning Manny's
low output is not to offer a defense as to why he lost; I don't care that his shoulder was injured.
I raised this point to show you that he didn't throw many punches last night because he was
hurt, and not because he "almost never" uses his right hand, which is just simply ridiculous. By
the way, Compubox indicates Manny threw 193 jabs in this fight (45%), so he's gotta be using
his right hand more than "almost never."

1. Pacquiao doesn't work the jab, he depends on speed and reflexes to get to you, and in most cases it works

2.Trust me I've watched those fights plenty and in both he wasn't using his jab to set up his punches in either.He would fient with his right often in those bouts, especially against Algeri. It's common knowledge amongst the hardcore boxing fans that it's one of Pacquiao's flaws, his lack of a consistent jab to set up his attacks. He's more of an ambush fighter and in most of his fights, it's worked for him.

3.He was in against a puzzle named Mayweather he couldn't solve, his punches in bunches were reduced to 81 because of it. All Mayweather opponents throw less because of his sharpe counter punching, Manny was no different.

4. Compubox is B.S., no way he threw 193 jabs, LOL!!

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Dude, you said something so outrageous: "almost never." In the fight Saturday night, I
saw Manny Pacquiao not "almost never" use his right hand. Admit it: you're talking out of your
ass!

Compubox is hardly BS; it's a credible scoring system that is used by HBO, and I've never heard
anybody call into question its efficiency. You're simply rejecting Compubox's stats because it
flies in the face of your groundless claim that Manny Pacquiao "almost never" uses his right hand.

https://twitter.com/Compu...60/photo/1

Don't use the Compubox stat of Pacquiao landing 81 punches on one hand and reject the Compu
box stat of Pacquiao throwing 193 jabs on the other. You're being inconsistent.

I'm not arguing against your claim that Pacquiao ought to throw his jab more often. I accept your
claim that he's flawed in this regard. I reject your claim that he "almost never" uses his right
hand as if he fights with his right arm attached permanently to his side in fights. That's ridiculous.

Whether Pacquiao managed to land 81 punches because he simply couldn't figure out how to hit
Mayweather or that his shoulder was hurt doesn't mean anything to me. 1) Mayweather is the
master of defense and is the slickest boxer I've ever seen - Manny ran into the God of Defense
Saturday night. 2) Mayweather was injured too. Everybody knows his hands are brittle and that
he can't punch with explosive power because of this condition.

duccichucka said:

Dude, you said something so outrageous: "almost never." In the fight Saturday night, I
saw Manny Pacquiao not "almost never" use his right hand. Admit it: you're talking out of your
ass!

Compubox is hardly BS; it's a credible scoring system that is used by HBO, and I've never heard
anybody call into question its efficiency. You're simply rejecting Compubox's stats because it
flies in the face of your groundless claim that Manny Pacquiao "almost never" uses his right hand.

https://twitter.com/Compu...60/photo/1

Don't use the Compubox stat of Pacquiao landing 81 punches on one hand and reject the Compu
box stat of Pacquiao throwing 193 jabs on the other. You're being inconsistent.

I'm not arguing against your claim that Pacquiao ought to throw his jab more often. I accept your
claim that he's flawed in this regard. I reject your claim that he "almost never" uses his right
hand as if he fights with his right arm attached permanently to his side in fights. That's ridiculous.

Whether Pacquiao managed to land 81 punches because he simply couldn't figure out how to hit
Mayweather or that his shoulder was hurt doesn't mean anything to me. 1) Mayweather is the
master of defense and is the slickest boxer I've ever seen - Manny ran into the God of Defense
Saturday night. 2) Mayweather was injured too. Everybody knows his hands are brittle and that
he can't punch with explosive power because of this condition.

Compubox has been proven to be BS, the most accurate form of punch counting is in the olympics and even that isn't 100%. 193 jabs my ass!

I already broke down to you what he does with his right when he throws it, go back and read

Abdul said:

duccichucka said:

Dude, you said something so outrageous: "almost never." In the fight Saturday night, I
saw Manny Pacquiao not "almost never" use his right hand. Admit it: you're talking out of your
ass!

Compubox is hardly BS; it's a credible scoring system that is used by HBO, and I've never heard
anybody call into question its efficiency. You're simply rejecting Compubox's stats because it
flies in the face of your groundless claim that Manny Pacquiao "almost never" uses his right hand.

https://twitter.com/Compu...60/photo/1

Don't use the Compubox stat of Pacquiao landing 81 punches on one hand and reject the Compu
box stat of Pacquiao throwing 193 jabs on the other. You're being inconsistent.

I'm not arguing against your claim that Pacquiao ought to throw his jab more often. I accept your
claim that he's flawed in this regard. I reject your claim that he "almost never" uses his right
hand as if he fights with his right arm attached permanently to his side in fights. That's ridiculous.

Whether Pacquiao managed to land 81 punches because he simply couldn't figure out how to hit
Mayweather or that his shoulder was hurt doesn't mean anything to me. 1) Mayweather is the
master of defense and is the slickest boxer I've ever seen - Manny ran into the God of Defense
Saturday night. 2) Mayweather was injured too. Everybody knows his hands are brittle and that
he can't punch with explosive power because of this condition.

Compubox has been proven to be BS, the most accurate form of punch counting is in the olympics and even that isn't 100%. 193 jabs my ass!

I already broke down to you what he does with his right when he throws it, go back and read

Like I said, you're discrediting Compubox only because it serves to go against your hare-brained
idea that Manny Pacquiao "almost never" throws his right hand.

Compubox is credible - proof.

Look at this quick Youtube video of Pacquiao knocking dudes out - he's throwing his right hand!
He doesn't "almost never" use his right hand; like I said, that's just fucking exaggeration on your
part, dude.

Manny throwing the right!

I had no dog in the fight and had my plate full saturday with work, the NFL Draft, playoff basketball all week,

and attending a music festival later in the day so I had no desire to rush anywhere

and watch it. Maybe I'll watch it next weekend on HBO. There was a lot of hype and personal feelings.

Facebook was full of hate from Mayweather haters to the point of some using the N word. Seriously?

Neither one of these cats putting a damn dime in anyone's pocket to the point of cowards hiding

behind their computer and resorting to racism.

duccichucka said:

Abdul said:

Compubox has been proven to be BS, the most accurate form of punch counting is in the olympics and even that isn't 100%. 193 jabs my ass!

I already broke down to you what he does with his right when he throws it, go back and read

Like I said, you're discrediting Compubox only because it serves to go against your hare-brained
idea that Manny Pacquiao "almost never" throws his right hand.

Compubox is credible - proof.

Look at this quick Youtube video of Pacquiao knocking dudes out - he's throwing his right hand!
He doesn't "almost never" use his right hand; like I said, that's just fucking exaggeration on your
part, dude.

Almost never is the key word here, what did I say he does when he throws his right? Hooks and Straights, NOT JABS!!

phunkdaddy said:

I had no dog in the fight and had my plate full saturday with work, the NFL Draft, playoff basketball all week,

and attending a music festival later in the day so I had no desire to rush anywhere

and watch it. Maybe I'll watch it next weekend on HBO. There was a lot of hype and personal feelings.

Facebook was full of hate from Mayweather haters to the point of some using the N word. Seriously?

Neither one of these cats putting a damn dime in anyone's pocket to the point of cowards hiding

behind their computer and resorting to racism.

Yeah I saw all that too, it was damn near a funeral on ESPN after the fight, LOL!!!

http://deadspin.com/heres...1701548806

Very interesting that most of you enjoyed the fight...The Rich Folks that saw it up-close-&-personal say it wasn't all that and they want their money back...

Chancellor said:

Very interesting that most of you enjoyed the fight...The Rich Folks that saw it up-close-&-personal say it wasn't all that and they want their money back...

No shade to you but I could care less what the "rich folks" think. It wasn't the best fight I've seen but shucks after years of lack luster fighting events, I have to say that the fight lived up to the hype. The only thing that would had satisfied folks is if a knock out would have occurred, which to us real boxing fans, knew all too well that that wasn't going to happen.

missfee said:

Chancellor said:

Very interesting that most of you enjoyed the fight...The Rich Folks that saw it up-close-&-personal say it wasn't all that and they want their money back...

No shade to you but I could care less what the "rich folks" think. It wasn't the best fight I've seen but shucks after years of lack luster fighting events, I have to say that the fight lived up to the hype. The only thing that would had satisfied folks is if a knock out would have occurred, which to us real boxing fans, knew all too well that that wasn't going to happen.

and Floyd had the opportunity to either do damage in the 11th and 12th...

Pacquiao could face disciplinary action for shoulder

LAS VEGAS (AP) — Manny Pacquiao could face disciplinary action from Nevada boxing officials for failing to disclose a shoulder injury before his fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Nevada Athletic Commission chairman Francisco Aguilar said Monday that the state attorney general's office will look at why Pacquiao checked ''no'' a day before the fight on a commission questionnaire asking if he had a shoulder injury.

''We will gather all the facts and follow the circumstances,'' Aguilar said. ''At some point we will have some discussion. As a licensee of the commission you want to make sure fighters are giving you up-to-date information.''

Pacquiao could face a possible fine or suspension for not answering the question accurately on a form he filled out just before Friday's weigh-in. He would go on to lose a unanimous decision to Mayweather in the richest fight ever.

Meanwhile, orthopedic surgeon Dr. Neal ElAttrache told ESPN.com that Pacquiao will undergo surgery later this week to repair a ''significant tear'' in his rotator cuff. ElAttrache examined Pacquiao on Monday at his Kerlan Jobe Orthopedics office in Los Angeles.

Pacquiao's promoter put out a statement on behalf of the fighter late Monday afternoon saying that the injury was disclosed to the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, which approved the use of an anti-inflammatory shot for the fight. But USADA was only a third party to the fight, charged only with testing the fighters for banned substances in training and the night of the bout.

''We had no medical information, no MRIs, no documents,'' said Travis Tygart, who heads the USADA. ''It was not an anti-doping issue. The real question is why his camp checked `no' on the disclosure. Either they made a terrible mistake to not follow the rules or they were trying not to give information to the other side. I'm not sure there's a middle ground.''

Tygart said his agency, which was hired by promoters to oversee drug testing for the bout, was contacted April 7 asking about the use of various substances and whether they were allowed under anti-doping rules. He said there was another call 10 days later asking about using a different substance, again for what the USADA was told was an unspecified shoulder problem.

A little more than two hours before the fight, Pacquiao's corner asked Nevada regulators if he could be given a shot of Toradol, an anti-inflammatory. Aguilar denied it, saying the commission had no previous indication there was an injury and could not allow a shot in fairness to the Mayweather camp.

''Our job is to protect the health and safety of fighters and the integrity of the sport,'' Aguilar said. ''We expect our fighters to be forthright.''

Pacquiao said after the fight that his shoulder had improved and he was hopeful of fighting with the shot. He said it didn't bother him until the fourth round, when he hit Mayweather with a big left hand and went after him with a series of punches.

Pacquiao's trainer, Freddie Roach, said the shoulder was getting better by the day in training camp.

''We thought at one time we'd postpone the fight, but as the weeks went on it was getting better and I was happy with his performance,'' Roach said. ''I thought the progress was good enough.''

Nevada Athletic Commission executive director Bob Bennett said Pacquiao filled out the form himself and understood the questions. A copy of the form was posted earlier on the True.Ink website, signed by both Pacquiao and his manager, Michael Koncz.

''It's not just the fact he didn't fill out the question completely, it was that he wasn't honest and they didn't tell us a month ago when he had the shoulder injury,'' Bennett said. ''They're not obligated to, but two hours before the fight they wanted a shot that's a pain killer in essence. That put us in a very precarious position.''

In the statement released by Pacquiao's camp, they said Pacquiao decided to proceed with the fight even without the shot.

''As Manny has said multiple times, he makes no excuses,'' the statement read. ''Manny gave it his best.''

The Associated Press

There was no way I was ponying-up any coins or anyone else in my house to see that fight... for some obvious reasons Ren posted

Those I know who saw the fight said, It was boring and uneventful. Most of those folks bitched about not getting their money worth. Oh well. What Oscar De La Hoya graciously called, "American Style": "I'm just not into the boxing, running style." Its the norm these days for over hype top tier titled fights to be nothing but boxers taking they're cut and "running."

If you want to watch the art, the beauty, and yes sometimes brutal boxing... no-name boxers in the lower weight classes are the ticket. Two men get in the middle of the ring, stand toe to toe, and duke it out.


This is when I miss former oger Timmy because we had a few debates about Mayweather ducking Pacquiao, 5 years plus. How old are these guys now middle / late 30's? I think in Pacquiao's prime, Mayweather had doubts if he could whip Pac... yeah I said it. Congrats, you've contribute to the retirement fund of May & Pac.

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Revolution said:

For those close rounds I always give to the aggressor. Money ran all night.

TD3 said:

I think in Pacquiao's prime, Mayweather had doubts if he could whip Pac...

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trust me,

he was glad that fight was over

So you guys don't think a rematch is going to happen? Especially with all the money made?

missfee said:

So you guys don't think a rematch is going to happen? Especially with all the money made?

I'm not sure why anyone would pay $ 2 see that again.

Abdul said:

duccichucka said:

Like I said, you're discrediting Compubox only because it serves to go against your hare-brained
idea that Manny Pacquiao "almost never" throws his right hand.

Compubox is credible - proof.

Look at this quick Youtube video of Pacquiao knocking dudes out - he's throwing his right hand!
He doesn't "almost never" use his right hand; like I said, that's just fucking exaggeration on your
part, dude.

Almost never is the key word here, what did I say he does when he throws his right? Hooks and Straights, NOT JABS!!

But Abdul also said:

Manny almost never uses his right, he's VERY left hand dominant, Floyd figured that out early and took advantge of it.

Make up your mind.

Does he "almost never" his right hand, or does he "almost never" use his right hand to throw
jabs? Either way, I can easily find footage where your "almost never" claim goes right out of
the window. And again, proof that Pacquiao does utilize a jab is witnessed last Saturday night
when Compubox scored him throwing 193 jabs. I've given you proof of the credibilty of Compu-
box. You, on the other hand, have done nothing to back up your claims.

Just waiting for you to say "Well, I think I actually mis-spoke. Pacquiao does use his right hand;
even to jab sometimes. I just wish he would use it more often" and then I'd be out of your life.
Until then, I can't have you in this thread spreading such egregious misinformation about the

sweet science.

Chancellor said:

Very interesting that most of you enjoyed the fight...The Rich Folks that saw it up-close-&-personal say it wasn't all that and they want their money back...

I didn't enjoy it at all. It was boring as fuck and just reinforced my piracy when it comes to
Mayweather boxing matches.

TD3 said:

If you want to watch the art, the beauty, and yes sometimes brutal boxing... no-name boxers in the lower weight classes are the ticket. Two men get in the middle of the ring, stand toe to toe, and duke it out.

That ain't boxing.

That's MMA. Sorry to inform you but dodging, dancing, juking, slipping punches, and being evasive
especially when your opponent is heavy handed is a part of boxing. Mayweather would be an
utter fool to stand toe-to-toe in the center of the ring with Pacquiao. People who want to see
athletes/boxers "duke it out" don't know how important defense is in boxing. Mayweather is a
boxer - he's not a fighter; there is a difference between the two.

Don't let what happens in the MMA cloud your perspective of what boxing is.

missfee said:

So you guys don't think a rematch is going to happen? Especially with all the money made?

Reports are that Stephen A. Smith received a text from Mayweather indicating that when Pacquiao
has fully healed from his surgery, he's willing to stage a rematch.

Yet, the results will be the same. Mayweather is just too much of a defensive minded fighter to let
Pacquiao destroy him with that left hand. Instead, he'll dance, evade, slip, duck, and dodge Manny
all night while effectively counter-punching him. In the end, he'll out point Pacquiao and mutha-
fuckahs will be out $200 this time for what will be a boring ass fight like all of Mayweather's fights
have been since he fought De La Hoya; you're crazy if you don't think Arum and Mayweather won't
up the ante the second time around.

duccichucka said:

TD3 said:

If you want to watch the art, the beauty, and yes sometimes brutal boxing... no-name boxers in the lower weight classes are the ticket. Two men get in the middle of the ring, stand toe to toe, and duke it out.

That ain't boxing.

That's MMA. Sorry to inform you but dodging, dancing, juking, slipping punches, and being evasive
especially when your opponent is heavy handed is a part of boxing. Mayweather would be an
utter fool to stand toe-to-toe in the center of the ring with Pacquiao. People who want to see
athletes/boxers "duke it out" don't know how important defense is in boxing. Mayweather is a
boxer - he's not a fighter; there is a difference between the two.

Don't let what happens in the MMA cloud your perspective of what boxing is.

have to agree

too many fighters have either brain damage or a speech slur from taking unneccessary blows..

HuMpThAnG said:

duccichucka said:

That ain't boxing.

That's MMA. Sorry to inform you but dodging, dancing, juking, slipping punches, and being evasive
especially when your opponent is heavy handed is a part of boxing. Mayweather would be an
utter fool to stand toe-to-toe in the center of the ring with Pacquiao. People who want to see
athletes/boxers "duke it out" don't know how important defense is in boxing. Mayweather is a
boxer - he's not a fighter; there is a difference between the two.

Don't let what happens in the MMA cloud your perspective of what boxing is.

have to agree

too many fighters have either brain damage or a speech slur from taking unneccessary blows..

Right.

Boxing is referred to as the "sweet science" because there really is an emphasis on tactical
precision, skill, and strategy. Sure, two boxers standing in the middle of the ring throwing
knock out blows is definitely entertaining.

But they usually end up with dementia pugilistica and suffer significant brain damage like you
suggest. Besides, if you wanna see brutality in order to satiate your natural proclivity for blood
sport, then watch the MMA!

duccichucka said:

HuMpThAnG said:

have to agree

too many fighters have either brain damage or a speech slur from taking unneccessary blows..

Right.

Boxing is referred to as the "sweet science" because there really is an emphasis on tactical
precision, skill, and strategy. Sure, two boxers standing in the middle of the ring throwing
knock out blows is definitely entertaining.

But they usually end up with dementia pugilistica and suffer significant brain damage like you
suggest. Besides, if you wanna see brutality in order to satiate your natural proclivity for blood
sport, then watch the MMA!

Not sure if its true or not, but I read that boxing is far worse than MMA for this sort of thing, as its the accumulation of blows that causes the problems, rather than the quick KO's....and in boxing fighters take a greater number of blows to the head over a career than an MMA fighter does. Be interesting to see if that's true...

duccichucka said:

TD3 said:

If you want to watch the art, the beauty, and yes sometimes brutal boxing... no-name boxers in the lower weight classes are the ticket. Two men get in the middle of the ring, stand toe to toe, and duke it out.

That ain't boxing.

That's MMA. Sorry to inform you but dodging, dancing, juking, slipping punches, and being evasive
especially when your opponent is heavy handed is a part of boxing. Mayweather would be an
utter fool to stand toe-to-toe in the center of the ring with Pacquiao. People who want to see
athletes/boxers "duke it out" don't know how important defense is in boxing. Mayweather is a
boxer - he's not a fighter; there is a difference between the two.

Don't let what happens in the MMA cloud your perspective of what boxing is.

That is boxing..

While your standing in the middle of the right your counter punching, dancing, bobbing and weaving. No walking around the damn ring like you are doing the," four corners". I don't know what you've watched but Ali made have hung out on the ropes -which in the long run cost him and his brain dearly- but he and others didn't walk around. At some point those men had to put their chins on the line and stand up and out punch the other guy... not run walk but throw punches. Most instances those win came about with having to knock the other guy out. Mike Tyson didn't run or walk around the ring, he stalked your ass around ring. How many knock out victories does Mayweather have?

Let say something else about the 5 plus years of running away from Pacuiao'. Back in the day you had to fight the top contenders, you could pick our choose or avoid someone until he or you were close to middle-age. If didn't fight the top guys- in most instance within the calendar year - you lost your BELT.

My perspective nor isn't clouded at all...maybe you have watch enough boxing What did Oscar call it, the new American Way of Boxing, nail on head.

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HuMpThAnG said:

duccichucka said:

That ain't boxing.

That's MMA. Sorry to inform you but dodging, dancing, juking, slipping punches, and being evasive
especially when your opponent is heavy handed is a part of boxing. Mayweather would be an
utter fool to stand toe-to-toe in the center of the ring with Pacquiao. People who want to see
athletes/boxers "duke it out" don't know how important defense is in boxing. Mayweather is a
boxer - he's not a fighter; there is a difference between the two.

Don't let what happens in the MMA cloud your perspective of what boxing is.

have to agree

too many fighters have either brain damage or a speech slur from taking unneccessary blows..

That's part of the sport it ain't meant for punks. Its like playing football in the NFL, it isn't flag football. You have choices... can't dea with itl do something else for a living.

TD3 said:

duccichucka said:

That ain't boxing.

That's MMA. Sorry to inform you but dodging, dancing, juking, slipping punches, and being evasive
especially when your opponent is heavy handed is a part of boxing. Mayweather would be an
utter fool to stand toe-to-toe in the center of the ring with Pacquiao. People who want to see
athletes/boxers "duke it out" don't know how important defense is in boxing. Mayweather is a
boxer - he's not a fighter; there is a difference between the two.

Don't let what happens in the MMA cloud your perspective of what boxing is.

That is boxing..

While your standing in the middle of the right your counter punching, dancing, bobbing and weaving. No walking around the damn ring like you are doing the," four corners". I don't know what you've watched but Ali made have hung out on the ropes -which in the long run cost him and his brain dearly- but he and others didn't walk around. At some point those men had to put their chins on the line and stand up and out punch the other guy... not run walk but throw punches. Most instances those win came about with having to knock the other guy out. Mike Tyson didn't run or walk around the ring, he stalked your ass around court. How many knock out victories does Mayweather have?

Let say something else about the 5 plus years of running away from Pacuiao'. Back in the day you had to fight the top contenders, you could pick our choose or avoid someone until he or you were close to middle-age. If didn't fight the top guys- in most instance within the calendar year - you lost your BELT.

My perspective nor isn't clouded at all...maybe you have watch enough boxing What did Oscar call it, the new American Way of Boxing, nail on head.

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No, two guys standing in the middle of the ring trading haymakers and beating each other to a
pulp with no defense involved is fighting, not boxing. Sure, it is a part of boxing, but you said:

If you want to watch the art, the beauty, and yes sometimes brutal boxing... no-name boxers in the
lower weight classes are the ticket. Two men get in the middle of the ring, stand toe to toe, and duke
it out.

...and there's nothing artful or beautiful about two guys beating each other to death. And rarely
will you see a boxing match where you have two guys just stand in the middle of the ring and
"duke it out." It doesn't happen too often. There's a distinction between a boxer (Floyd May-
weather) and a fighter (Manny Pacquiao, for the most part). Mayweather is a better boxer; Man-
ny is a better fighter. Manny's style of boxing (fighting) is more exciting. Mayweather's style of
fighting (boxing) is boring. Mayweather will never allow himself to stand in the middle of the ring
and "duke it out" especially if he's pitted against a fighter who is heavy-handed. Mayweather
does not possess the first requirement needed to be a fighter, which is natural punching power,
so he's going to rely on his speed and defense, which makes for a boring fight. Your post made
it seem as if you're unaccustomed to boxing and Mayweather's boxing style, which is why we're
having this discussion....

People who watched the fight Saturday night and are complaining about Mayweather's
evasiveness do not understand boxing or how Mayweather boxes. Again, if you want to ooh
and aah over two guys duking it out, go watch MMA. A boxing match leaves room for ring
generalship, evasiveness, elusiveness, slipping punches, and dancing. MMA does not reward
such an approach.

TD3 said:

HuMpThAnG said:

have to agree

too many fighters have either brain damage or a speech slur from taking unneccessary blows..

That's part of the sport it ain't meant for punks. Its like playing football in the NFL, it isn't flag football. You have choices... can't dea with itl do something else for a living.

Dude, masculinity is not tied into how eager or willing you are to get hit in the head during a
boxing match. I remember reading a quote by Jerry Rice who said that he ran fast during foot-
ball games because he was afraid of getting tackled.

Fuck that "punk" shit; the key to success in boxing (and in the NFL) is to not get hit.