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Reply #60 posted 05/05/15 4:13pm

HuMpThAnG

TD3 said:

duccichucka said:


That ain't boxing.

That's MMA. Sorry to inform you but dodging, dancing, juking, slipping punches, and being evasive
especially when your opponent is heavy handed is a part of boxing. Mayweather would be an
utter fool to stand toe-to-toe in the center of the ring with Pacquiao. People who want to see
athletes/boxers "duke it out" don't know how important defense is in boxing. Mayweather is a
boxer - he's not a fighter; there is a difference between the two.

Don't let what happens in the MMA cloud your perspective of what boxing is.

What did Oscar call it, the new American Way of Boxing, nail on head.

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[Edited 5/5/15 15:57pm]

now he's the one to talk after running from Trinidad in the last 3 rounds lol

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Reply #61 posted 05/05/15 5:48pm

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Ali, Ray Robinson, Ray Leonard, Pernel Whitaker (and his uncles), ect all fought a similar style to Mayweather. Why Mayweather get's hated on for doing the same thing others did berfore him is mind boggling.

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Reply #62 posted 05/05/15 6:28pm

Abdul

duccichucka said


Make up your mind.

Does he "almost never" his right hand, or does he "almost never" use his right hand to throw
jabs? Either way, I can easily find footage where your "almost never" claim goes right out of
the window. And again, proof that Pacquiao does utilize a jab is witnessed last Saturday night
when Compubox scored him throwing 193 jabs. I've given you proof of the credibilty of Compu-
box. You, on the other hand, have done nothing to back up your claims.


You're the one who said every fighter uses a jab to set up a power punch, I said not Pacquiao, you disagreed.

We just won't agree on this, you see things your way, I see things my way, no big deal.

[Edited 5/5/15 22:12pm]

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Reply #63 posted 05/05/15 9:48pm

Abdul

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Ali, Ray Robinson, Ray Leonard, Pernel Whitaker (and his uncles), ect all fought a similar style to Mayweather. Why Mayweather get's hated on for doing the same thing others did berfore him is mind boggling.

It seems like the hate picked up double once he called himself TBE, especially from the boxing historians.

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Reply #64 posted 05/05/15 10:14pm

Abdul

HuMpThAnG said:

TD3 said:

What did Oscar call it, the new American Way of Boxing, nail on head.

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[Edited 5/5/15 15:57pm]

now he's the one to talk after running from Trinidad in the last 3 rounds lol

LOL, that's the first thing I thought when I saw his tweet about the fight, he got some nerve.

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Reply #65 posted 05/05/15 11:08pm

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missfee said:

So you guys don't think a rematch is going to happen? Especially with all the money made? hmmm



Nah, he can go back to his political day job.

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Reply #66 posted 05/06/15 8:09am

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Chancellor said:

Very interesting that most of you enjoyed the fight...The Rich Folks that saw it up-close-&-personal say it wasn't all that and they want their money back...

You think?!? lol

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Reply #67 posted 05/06/15 8:19am

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This fight proved just how easy it is 2 dupe the public with Hype.

FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent.
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Reply #68 posted 05/06/15 8:21am

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duccichucka said:

TD3 said:


If you want to watch the art, the beauty, and yes sometimes brutal boxing... no-name boxers in the lower weight classes are the ticket. Two men get in the middle of the ring, stand toe to toe, and duke it out.


That ain't boxing.

That's MMA. Sorry to inform you but dodging, dancing, juking, slipping punches, and being evasive
especially when your opponent is heavy handed is a part of boxing. Mayweather would be an
utter fool to stand toe-to-toe in the center of the ring with Pacquiao. People who want to see
athletes/boxers "duke it out" don't know how important defense is in boxing. Mayweather is a
boxer - he's not a fighter; there is a difference between the two.

Don't let what happens in the MMA cloud your perspective of what boxing is.


I stongly agree with you right THERE^. Floyd Mayweather is NOT a great fighter because he has NEVER been a true fighter. He a point scorer and a conservative boxer.

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Reply #69 posted 05/06/15 8:22am

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TonyVanDam said:

duccichucka said:


That ain't boxing.

That's MMA. Sorry to inform you but dodging, dancing, juking, slipping punches, and being evasive
especially when your opponent is heavy handed is a part of boxing. Mayweather would be an
utter fool to stand toe-to-toe in the center of the ring with Pacquiao. People who want to see
athletes/boxers "duke it out" don't know how important defense is in boxing. Mayweather is a
boxer - he's not a fighter; there is a difference between the two.

Don't let what happens in the MMA cloud your perspective of what boxing is.


I stongly agree with you right THERE^. Floyd Mayweather is NOT a great fighter because he has NEVER been a true fighter. He a point scorer and a conservative boxer.

4 those that have EVER stepped into an actual ring.

Rule number 1: AVOID getting hit as much as POSSIBLE.

Rule number 2: See rule number 1

FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent.
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Reply #70 posted 05/06/15 8:27am

TonyVanDam

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Graycap23 said:

This fight proved just how easy it is 2 dupe the public with Hype.

Pro Boxing has never been the same since the generation tha gave us Tyson/Holyfield/Lewis left the sport.

These days, sport fans with blood thrist satisfied from watching MMA. At least in that sport, there will always be potential KOs.

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Reply #71 posted 05/06/15 8:33am

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Graycap23 said:

TonyVanDam said:


I stongly agree with you right THERE^. Floyd Mayweather is NOT a great fighter because he has NEVER been a true fighter. He a point scorer and a conservative boxer.


4 those that have EVER stepped into an actual ring.

Rule number 1: AVOID getting hit as much as POSSIBLE.

Rule number 2: See rule number 1


But does a boxing match have to end via split decisons? Whatever happen to setting up your opponent for a KO punch?

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Reply #72 posted 05/06/15 8:56am

V10LETBLUES

Graycap23 said:



TonyVanDam said:




duccichucka said:




That ain't boxing.

That's MMA. Sorry to inform you but dodging, dancing, juking, slipping punches, and being evasive
especially when your opponent is heavy handed is a part of boxing. Mayweather would be an
utter fool to stand toe-to-toe in the center of the ring with Pacquiao. People who want to see
athletes/boxers "duke it out" don't know how important defense is in boxing. Mayweather is a
boxer - he's not a fighter; there is a difference between the two.

Don't let what happens in the MMA cloud your perspective of what boxing is.




I stongly agree with you right THERE^. Floyd Mayweather is NOT a great fighter because he has NEVER been a true fighter. He a point scorer and a conservative boxer.



4 those that have EVER stepped into an actual ring.


Rule number 1: AVOID getting hit as much as POSSIBLE.


Rule number 2: See rule number 1



Pretty much. That some wanted blood and don't feel you hit your money's worth, just speaks to how depraved society has always been. How many folks paid lots of money to sit on their ass and watch people beat the crap out of each other? ...I mean besides me.
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Reply #73 posted 05/06/15 9:36am

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TonyVanDam said:

Graycap23 said:


4 those that have EVER stepped into an actual ring.

Rule number 1: AVOID getting hit as much as POSSIBLE.

Rule number 2: See rule number 1


But does a boxing match have to end via split decisons? Whatever happen to setting up your opponent for a KO punch?

Having spent considerable time in the ring, I'd suggest that Mayweather had ZERO intentions of a KO. He didn't through a single combination, hook or uppercut during that fight although there were several chances 2 do so. There nothing more than a steady diet of jabs and right crosses.

FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent.
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Reply #74 posted 05/06/15 10:02am

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As I predicted.....:

Pacquiao reportedly also interested in rematch with Mayweather

by FOX Sports,
1 hour ago

A day after Floyd Mayweather Jr. reportedly offered Manny Pacquiao a rematch to their much-hyped bout, Pacquiao also appears interested.

Top Rank promoter Bob Arum told ESPN on Wednesday that Pacquiao would be up for a second fight with Mayweather, who won by unanimous decision Saturday.

Mayweather told ESPN on Tuesday that he "will fight him in a year after his surgery."

After the fight, Pacquiao was diagnosed with a torn right rotator cuff injury, which requires surgery and an expected 9-12 month recovery period. Pacquiao complained about a shoulder injury in post-fight interviews.

Though the fighters appear willing for a rematch, Arum warned that there could be many hurdles outside the ring.

"I think we now know what the pitfalls were," Arum told ESPN. "And, ultimately, with all the aggravation and trouble, look at the pot of gold that we both produced. I think there will probably be less aggravation in a rematch. We understand each other better now. There's a real possibility it could work even better."

Arum added that it's best for Mayweather to wait for Pacquiao in a potential bout in April, when the MGM Grand in Las Vegas plans to open a new 20,000-seat arena, instead of fighting someone else in September.

"I think the wisest course of action is for Floyd to wait," Arum said.

[Edited 5/6/15 10:20am]

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Reply #75 posted 05/06/15 10:48am

HuMpThAnG

Graycap23 said:

TonyVanDam said:


But does a boxing match have to end via split decisons? Whatever happen to setting up your opponent for a KO punch?

Having spent considerable time in the ring, I'd suggest that Mayweather had ZERO intentions of a KO. He didn't through a single combination, hook or uppercut during that fight although there were several chances 2 do so. There nothing more than a steady diet of jabs and right crosses.

He really had a chance to finish Manny nod

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Reply #76 posted 05/06/15 11:20am

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HuMpThAnG said:

Graycap23 said:

Having spent considerable time in the ring, I'd suggest that Mayweather had ZERO intentions of a KO. He didn't through a single combination, hook or uppercut during that fight although there were several chances 2 do so. There nothing more than a steady diet of jabs and right crosses.

He really had a chance to finish Manny nod

I'd say he had at least 9 rounds where a series of the above ends that fight early.

There was no intent.

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Reply #77 posted 05/06/15 12:15pm

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You don't go looking for a KO but if it comes, get it. It never came. May last KO was in 11. Before that, 07.
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Reply #78 posted 05/06/15 12:37pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

You don't go looking for a KO but if it comes, get it. It never came. May last KO was in 11. Before that, 07.

KO isn't his game so i get that. my point is, he was not even trying 2 do anything beside play defense. Great 4 him.......not so much 4 the viewing fan. Fans don't understand that.

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Reply #79 posted 05/07/15 2:21pm

duccichucka

Abdul said:

duccichucka said


Make up your mind.

Does he "almost never" his right hand, or does he "almost never" use his right hand to throw
jabs? Either way, I can easily find footage where your "almost never" claim goes right out of
the window. And again, proof that Pacquiao does utilize a jab is witnessed last Saturday night
when Compubox scored him throwing 193 jabs. I've given you proof of the credibilty of Compu-
box. You, on the other hand, have done nothing to back up your claims.


You're the one who said every fighter uses a jab to set up a power punch, I said not Pacquiao, you disagreed.

We just won't agree on this, you see things your way, I see things my way, no big deal.

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Pacquiao uses his right hand jab to set up his power punches. You claimed that Manny "almost
never" uses his right hand, which is just fucking absurd.

More video of Manny using his jab (right hand) to set himself up:



You're talking outta yer arsehole, Abdul!

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Reply #80 posted 05/07/15 2:24pm

duccichucka

TonyVanDam said:

duccichucka said:


That ain't boxing.

That's MMA. Sorry to inform you but dodging, dancing, juking, slipping punches, and being evasive
especially when your opponent is heavy handed is a part of boxing. Mayweather would be an
utter fool to stand toe-to-toe in the center of the ring with Pacquiao. People who want to see
athletes/boxers "duke it out" don't know how important defense is in boxing. Mayweather is a
boxer - he's not a fighter; there is a difference between the two.

Don't let what happens in the MMA cloud your perspective of what boxing is.


I stongly agree with you right THERE^. Floyd Mayweather is NOT a great fighter because he has NEVER been a true fighter. He a point scorer and a conservative boxer.


I agree with you too.

Mayweather takes full advantage of boxing's scoring system. He's not a brawler or a fighter, but
he's a great boxer. And great boxers are those who use defense and know how to strategize
and make adjustments to win. Mayweather will never be exciting because he's not going to go
toe-to-toe with his opponent as he does not possess punching power.

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Reply #81 posted 05/07/15 2:25pm

duccichucka

Graycap23 said:

TonyVanDam said:


I stongly agree with you right THERE^. Floyd Mayweather is NOT a great fighter because he has NEVER been a true fighter. He a point scorer and a conservative boxer.

4 those that have EVER stepped into an actual ring.

Rule number 1: AVOID getting hit as much as POSSIBLE.

Rule number 2: See rule number 1


Agreed.

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Reply #82 posted 05/07/15 9:16pm

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duccichucka said:

TonyVanDam said:


I stongly agree with you right THERE^. Floyd Mayweather is NOT a great fighter because he has NEVER been a true fighter. He a point scorer and a conservative boxer.


I agree with you too.

Mayweather takes full advantage of boxing's scoring system. He's not a brawler or a fighter, but
he's a great boxer. And great boxers are those who use defense and know how to strategize
and make adjustments to win. Mayweather will never be exciting because he's not going to go
toe-to-toe with his opponent as he does not possess punching power.

Have you not seen the Pretty Boy Floyd version of Maywather? A very differnt fighter than the Money Mayweather version.

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Reply #83 posted 05/08/15 10:03am

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The fight was free in Mexico, which is where I was.

I got what I paid for, LOL.

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