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Reply #90 posted 09/09/14 8:12am

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Shyra said:

I guess my eyes are bad or something or the video is poor quality because I don't see the actual punch, just her falling down. BUT, the way he dragged her limp body off the elevator and then appeared to dump and kick her speaks to his violence. Who was the guy who appeared while Rice was standing over her body after he dragged her off the elevator, and what was being said? In any event, she needs counseling for marrying the fool after this type of attack. And who's to say he's not continuing to kick her ass as a result of losing his career? She's claiming to stand by her man, but how much more is she willing to take to save face?

I wonder what Whoopi has to say because she opined that a woman deserves to be attacked if she attacks first a la Solonage and JZ.

Looks like he slap/punched her twice. Once when they got in, he makes contact on her face, she got pissed and went to hit him back arms swinging, he blocks a hit then he swipes her on the lower jaw- lightning fast, and her head follows the force of the movement. Hair just swings up and she hits the floor.

I think that is what I saw. It was quick. The way he treats her slumped body is disgusting, he may kill her in time IMHO.

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Reply #91 posted 09/09/14 8:14am

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RodeoSchro said:

Janay Rice released a statement. It's sad on pretty much every level possible:

"I woke up this morning feeling like I had a horrible nightmare, feeling like I'm mourning the death of my closest friend. But to have to accept the fact that it's reality is a nightmare in itself. No one knows the pain that the media & unwanted [opinions] from the public has caused my family. To make us relive a moment in our lives that we regret every day is a horrible thing. To take something away from the man I love that he has worked his ass of for all his life just to gain ratings is horrific. THIS IS OUR LIFE! What don't you all get. If your intentions were to hurt us, embarrass us, make us feel alone, take all happiness away, you've succeeded on so many levels. Just know we will continue to grow & show the world what real love is! Ravensnation we love you!"



sigh Classic battered women's syndrome.... translation: "I need my man to keep his job because I don't want him to be home to take more frustrations out on me, I need for him to stay busy PLEASE!"

She needs therapy just as much as he does.

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Reply #92 posted 09/09/14 8:23am

RodeoSchro

paintedlady said:

Shyra said:

I guess my eyes are bad or something or the video is poor quality because I don't see the actual punch, just her falling down. BUT, the way he dragged her limp body off the elevator and then appeared to dump and kick her speaks to his violence. Who was the guy who appeared while Rice was standing over her body after he dragged her off the elevator, and what was being said? In any event, she needs counseling for marrying the fool after this type of attack. And who's to say he's not continuing to kick her ass as a result of losing his career? She's claiming to stand by her man, but how much more is she willing to take to save face?

I wonder what Whoopi has to say because she opined that a woman deserves to be attacked if she attacks first a la Solonage and JZ.

Looks like he slap/punched her twice. Once when they got in, he makes contact on her face, she got pissed and went to hit him back arms swinging, he blocks a hit then he swipes her on the lower jaw- lightning fast, and her head follows the force of the movement. Hair just swings up and she hits the floor.

I think that is what I saw. It was quick. The way he treats her slumped body is disgusting, he may kill her in time IMHO.



There is a higher-definition video (that I haven't seen yet) in which it appears she spits on him. But that's the only detail different than your description, and it's certainly no justification for Rice to hit her.

The video also has sound, and allegedly the guy who walks up says "She drunk?" and then "No cops". Ray Rice never says a word.

And you are right - Ray Rice proves what a total, giant pussy and piece of shit he is by the way he treats his then-fiancee's unconscious body.

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Reply #93 posted 09/09/14 8:25am

RodeoSchro

By the way - it's been deleted but on May 24th the Baltimore Ravens tweeted out "Janay Rice says she deeply regrets the role she played the night of the incident."

Un-fucking-believable. If you want to see a screenshot of the actual tweet, go here. It's below the videos:

http://deadspin.com/heres...1631864196

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Reply #94 posted 09/09/14 8:26am

Shyra

paintedlady said:

RodeoSchro said:

Janay Rice released a statement. It's sad on pretty much every level possible:

"I woke up this morning feeling like I had a horrible nightmare, feeling like I'm mourning the death of my closest friend. But to have to accept the fact that it's reality is a nightmare in itself. No one knows the pain that the media & unwanted [opinions] from the public has caused my family. To make us relive a moment in our lives that we regret every day is a horrible thing. To take something away from the man I love that he has worked his ass of for all his life just to gain ratings is horrific. THIS IS OUR LIFE! What don't you all get. If your intentions were to hurt us, embarrass us, make us feel alone, take all happiness away, you've succeeded on so many levels. Just know we will continue to grow & show the world what real love is! Ravensnation we love you!"



sigh Classic battered women's syndrome.... translation: "I need my man to keep his job because I don't want him to be home to take more frustrations out on me, I need for him to stay busy PLEASE!"

She needs therapy just as much as he does.


I agree, and she's probably thinking about all the lost income and high living she's going to have to forfeit. Like someone else said, let's see how long the marriage lasts when the money runs out. I believe it's all about the benjamins anyway. No amount of money would make me stay after an asskicking like that. If anything, I'd sue his ass for divorce and take ERRYTHANG!

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Reply #95 posted 09/09/14 9:00am

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He should never be allowed to play in the NFL again. Plus, his teammates need to beat the living shit out of him.

No man hits a woman. EVER (absolute life-threatening situations excluded, and this certainly wasn't one).

Any man that hits a woman is not a man at all. He's nothing but a pussy.

1st line I agree with

2nd line I partially agree/disagree on. the first sentence is not realistic. the 2nd sentence brings up the question, how do you know that it's an absolute life-threatening situation? All it takes is for someone to get hit, slip and fall and break their kneck...

Yes this Ray Rice situation is pure domestic violence.

[Edited 9/9/14 9:34am]

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Reply #96 posted 09/09/14 9:02am

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paintedlady said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Wonder how long the marriage will last now that those NFL checks aren't coming in?

I don't think its about the money...

many women stay in abusive relationships to brokeasses all the time. The man has POWER over her, he is in her head and has manipulated her to PROTECT him.... even when he beats her up because he wore her down to the core.

This is WHY she married him... this is why she never called the police... this is why he will continue to whoop her ass at his own whim.



being a child of an abused mother, I see the mental abuse that goes on long before the punch and these women often feel isolated and alone. She will protec him, and stay with him because she thinks it will help her from getting the next beating.



She needs friends like me... [img:$uid]http://i216.pho.../img:$uid]

Very truthful words there. It's a mental problem way before it becomes physical.

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Reply #97 posted 09/09/14 9:26am

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As a men said this morining on Espen. The question should be asked, why did Rice continue to hit his now wife... not necessarily why she stayed. Again, who knocked the shit out of whom? Because if that's the case are all people who are beaten, killed, lynched, raped, shot, tortured, or exterminated, are they some how culpable in their own demise? For all this talk about this young woman's motives, has anyone bothered to question the motives of the Ravens, NFL, Roger Goodell, the District Attorney of Baltimore and the public? Time and time again we've put winning at all cost above doing the right thing. Violence against women is excused and tolerated... violence against the old, the young and/or the marginalized are accepted. It's my understanding AP news has the full length video of Rice beating and spitting on this young woman, now his wife.

Thanks for the info. I might or might not watch the full video on AP but I'm curious unfortunately. Okay, so this is the case for the DA of Baltimore and not Atlantic City? I was wondering about the jurisdictional stuff because it actually happened in AC but of course the DA in AC could always punt to the DA in Baltimore I suppose.

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Reply #98 posted 09/09/14 9:27am

SeventeenDayze

RodeoSchro said:

Janay Rice released a statement. It's sad on pretty much every level possible:

"I woke up this morning feeling like I had a horrible nightmare, feeling like I'm mourning the death of my closest friend. But to have to accept the fact that it's reality is a nightmare in itself. No one knows the pain that the media & unwanted [opinions] from the public has caused my family. To make us relive a moment in our lives that we regret every day is a horrible thing. To take something away from the man I love that he has worked his ass of for all his life just to gain ratings is horrific. THIS IS OUR LIFE! What don't you all get. If your intentions were to hurt us, embarrass us, make us feel alone, take all happiness away, you've succeeded on so many levels. Just know we will continue to grow & show the world what real love is! Ravensnation we love you!"

This is pretty messed up...

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Reply #99 posted 09/09/14 9:30am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

2nd line I partially agree/disagree on. the first sentance is not realistic. the 2nd sentence brings up the question, how do you know that it's an absolute life-threatening situation? All it takes is for someone to get hit, slip and fall and break their kneck...

Agree. And I don't buy the idea that a 'real man' should just stand there and be the victim of an unprovoked attack (like Jay-Z). It's wrong regardless who's doing it.

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Reply #100 posted 09/09/14 9:35am

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paintedlady said:

RodeoSchro said:

Janay Rice released a statement. It's sad on pretty much every level possible:

"I woke up this morning feeling like I had a horrible nightmare, feeling like I'm mourning the death of my closest friend. But to have to accept the fact that it's reality is a nightmare in itself. No one knows the pain that the media & unwanted [opinions] from the public has caused my family. To make us relive a moment in our lives that we regret every day is a horrible thing. To take something away from the man I love that he has worked his ass of for all his life just to gain ratings is horrific. THIS IS OUR LIFE! What don't you all get. If your intentions were to hurt us, embarrass us, make us feel alone, take all happiness away, you've succeeded on so many levels. Just know we will continue to grow & show the world what real love is! Ravensnation we love you!"



sigh Classic battered women's syndrome.... translation: "I need my man to keep his job because I don't want him to be home to take more frustrations out on me, I need for him to stay busy PLEASE!"

She needs therapy just as much as he does.



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Reply #101 posted 09/09/14 10:29am

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paintedlady said:

RodeoSchro said:

Janay Rice released a statement. It's sad on pretty much every level possible:

"I woke up this morning feeling like I had a horrible nightmare, feeling like I'm mourning the death of my closest friend. But to have to accept the fact that it's reality is a nightmare in itself. No one knows the pain that the media & unwanted [opinions] from the public has caused my family. To make us relive a moment in our lives that we regret every day is a horrible thing. To take something away from the man I love that he has worked his ass of for all his life just to gain ratings is horrific. THIS IS OUR LIFE! What don't you all get. If your intentions were to hurt us, embarrass us, make us feel alone, take all happiness away, you've succeeded on so many levels. Just know we will continue to grow & show the world what real love is! Ravensnation we love you!"



sigh Classic battered women's syndrome.... translation: "I need my man to keep his job because I don't want him to be home to take more frustrations out on me, I need for him to stay busy PLEASE!"

She needs therapy just as much as he does.

True. And this is where ideals of the woman needing the man to provide for her and archaic ideals come into play. Independant Woman or Dependant Woman. A lot of that thinking and the ideals are definately taught from woman 2 women, thru media, thru what they see in the home etc

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Reply #102 posted 09/09/14 10:54am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

paintedlady said:



sigh Classic battered women's syndrome.... translation: "I need my man to keep his job because I don't want him to be home to take more frustrations out on me, I need for him to stay busy PLEASE!"

She needs therapy just as much as he does.

True. And this is where ideals of the woman needing the man to provide for her and archaic ideals come into play. Independant Woman or Dependant Woman. A lot of that thinking and the ideals are definately taught from woman 2 women, thru media, thru what they see in the home etc

I'm sure her family is pressuring her to stay with him because he's loaded. It's the old "take one for the team" mentality at its worst, unfortunately.

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Reply #103 posted 09/09/14 11:45am

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how many times have i been hit by a woman,more than id like to remember. she married him they deserve ea other.

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Reply #104 posted 09/09/14 12:34pm

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RodeoSchro said:

Janay Rice released a statement. It's sad on pretty much every level possible:

"I woke up this morning feeling like I had a horrible nightmare, feeling like I'm mourning the death of my closest friend. But to have to accept the fact that it's reality is a nightmare in itself. No one knows the pain that the media & unwanted [opinions] from the public has caused my family. To make us relive a moment in our lives that we regret every day is a horrible thing. To take something away from the man I love that he has worked his ass of for all his life just to gain ratings is horrific. THIS IS OUR LIFE! What don't you all get. If your intentions were to hurt us, embarrass us, make us feel alone, take all happiness away, you've succeeded on so many levels. Just know we will continue to grow & show the world what real love is! Ravensnation we love you!"

ray-rice-press-conference-wife-aggravated-assault1is she so desparate for the $$$$good life?

imo, she should be glad and relieved that her tormentor has been exposed.

many victims of domestic violence think that if they stay with their abuser things will change and the violence will stop.

look how long tina turner stayed with ike. sometimes the victim of abuse thinks they are at fault in that they cause the abuser to go off and beat the crap out of them. so not true.

i've encountered two women that were victims of domestic violence. one stayed and is doing well.

the other remained in the violent situation.

the one who stayed is now in a mental institution and will never be normal again, because during one of the abusers rants he grabbed her around the neck and slammed her hard against a wall.

the impact of his slamming her against the wall caused her head and neck severe nerve damage which resulted in impairing her cognitive abilities.

well, anyway due to her inability to function as a mother and home keeper, the courts awarded the abuser full custody of the children and house, (with no regard to the history of abuse-because she never went to the police).

the victim roamed the streets in a homeless state and was finally committed to a state mental facility.

i say, if you or anyone you know is a victim of domestic violence. REPORT, REPORT, REPORT it to the police and get the abuser the hell out!

i'm glad tmz released the video. i hope sister-girl lands on her feet and gets out of her delusional state of mind.

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Reply #105 posted 09/09/14 12:47pm

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RodeoSchro said:

Janay Rice released a statement. It's sad on pretty much every level possible:

"I woke up this morning feeling like I had a horrible nightmare, feeling like I'm mourning the death of my closest friend. But to have to accept the fact that it's reality is a nightmare in itself. No one knows the pain that the media & unwanted [opinions] from the public has caused my family. To make us relive a moment in our lives that we regret every day is a horrible thing. To take something away from the man I love that he has worked his ass of for all his life just to gain ratings is horrific. THIS IS OUR LIFE! What don't you all get. If your intentions were to hurt us, embarrass us, make us feel alone, take all happiness away, you've succeeded on so many levels. Just know we will continue to grow & show the world what real love is! Ravensnation we love you!"

sigh Beyond sad

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Reply #106 posted 09/09/14 1:29pm

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paintedlady said:

RodeoSchro said:

Janay Rice released a statement. It's sad on pretty much every level possible:

"I woke up this morning feeling like I had a horrible nightmare, feeling like I'm mourning the death of my closest friend. But to have to accept the fact that it's reality is a nightmare in itself. No one knows the pain that the media & unwanted [opinions] from the public has caused my family. To make us relive a moment in our lives that we regret every day is a horrible thing. To take something away from the man I love that he has worked his ass of for all his life just to gain ratings is horrific. THIS IS OUR LIFE! What don't you all get. If your intentions were to hurt us, embarrass us, make us feel alone, take all happiness away, you've succeeded on so many levels. Just know we will continue to grow & show the world what real love is! Ravensnation we love you!"



sigh Classic battered women's syndrome.... translation: "I need my man to keep his job because I don't want him to be home to take more frustrations out on me, I need for him to stay busy PLEASE!"

She needs therapy just as much as he does.

Maybe it is. I remember a course I took which dealt in domestic violence when I was trying to become a forensic examiner, the stories that US Marshall would tell of what women would do to maintain living within that life, from all walks of life, rich, poor, educated, uneducated, lawyers, doctors, fast food workers, house cleaners, it didn't matter, their minds were so twisted and they'd jump through all kinds of reasoning hoops to justify the behavior. It was heartwrenching. A lot of times the women needed rescuing from themselves first.

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Reply #107 posted 09/09/14 2:53pm

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RodeoSchro said:

Janay Rice released a statement. It's sad on pretty much every level possible:

"I woke up this morning feeling like I had a horrible nightmare, feeling like I'm mourning the death of my closest friend. But to have to accept the fact that it's reality is a nightmare in itself. No one knows the pain that the media & unwanted [opinions] from the public has caused my family. To make us relive a moment in our lives that we regret every day is a horrible thing. To take something away from the man I love that he has worked his ass of for all his life just to gain ratings is horrific. THIS IS OUR LIFE! What don't you all get. If your intentions were to hurt us, embarrass us, make us feel alone, take all happiness away, you've succeeded on so many levels.Just know we will continue to grow & show the world what real love is! Ravensnation we love you!"



No dear Janay. You and your husband are responsible for y'all demise.
Have you ever stopped to think that if you and your husband didn't have
an ignorant public fight where you could have died we wouldn't be talking about
you as a money hungry enabler or your husband as an ex football player?
stfu
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #108 posted 09/09/14 3:00pm

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uPtoWnNY said:



OldFriends4Sale said:



2nd line I partially agree/disagree on. the first sentance is not realistic. the 2nd sentence brings up the question, how do you know that it's an absolute life-threatening situation? All it takes is for someone to get hit, slip and fall and break their kneck...





Agree. And I don't buy the idea that a 'real man' should just stand there and be the victim of an unprovoked attack (like Jay-Z). It's wrong regardless who's doing it.

[Edited 9/9/14 9:35am]



I get where you coming from Uptown but it wasn't warranted in this case. Anything short
of a woman using brute force with an object or with intent to injure a man is inexcusable imo.
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Reply #109 posted 09/09/14 3:54pm

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Graycap23 said:

America has it's priorities mixed up.

Rice should never be allowed 2 play in the NFL agains but:

1. A privately owned bank know as the Federal Reserve Bank should be allowed 2 rob the US citizens blind to the tune of billions $ per day

2. Politians should be allowed to sell it's citizens to highest bidder at the State and Federal level on a regular basis.

3. Racism, sexism, and ageism is rampant around the World.

4. The exploitation of woman and children are at an all time high.

5. The US is involved in several wars around the Globe including supporting the nonsense over in Isreal.

I could go on for days.................but I won't.


I agree with all 5 of your points. But you forgot about "classism". It's not an official word in the American English dictionary, but it needs to be. The issue of class (especially rich VS. poor) can never be overlooked.

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Reply #110 posted 09/09/14 4:03pm

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lrn36 said:

CynicKill said:

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We both agree it's not a black thing in terms of domestic abuse. My point was that since these two are celebrities, now they have to stand for a whole lot more because of this animal known as media. So while it has nothing to do with race and we would all be offended no matter the perpetrator, the fact is he, along with Chris Brown and OJ Simpson, will be the convenient face of domestic abuse. The prospect of another race doesn't even have to be entertained. They should all know better instead of acting like they were born yesterday.

MMA fighter War Machine did this to his girlfriend Christy Mack and it had little media coverage.


I knew about weeks ago from TYT. Christy Mack resigned from the adult entertainment industry soon after.

And that damn War Machine is an evil son of a bitch. Him and Christy weren't even in a relationship anymore and he wanted to beat her up because she moved on in her personal life with a new boyfriend. Never mind jail, War Machine need to be throw in the sinkhole. disbelief

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Reply #111 posted 09/09/14 4:07pm

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TonyVanDam said:

Graycap23 said:

America has it's priorities mixed up.

Rice should never be allowed 2 play in the NFL agains but:

1. A privately owned bank know as the Federal Reserve Bank should be allowed 2 rob the US citizens blind to the tune of billions $ per day

2. Politians should be allowed to sell it's citizens to highest bidder at the State and Federal level on a regular basis.

3. Racism, sexism, and ageism is rampant around the World.

4. The exploitation of woman and children are at an all time high.

5. The US is involved in several wars around the Globe including supporting the nonsense over in Isreal.

I could go on for days.................but I won't.


I agree with all 5 of your points. But you forgot about "classism". It's not an official word in the American English dictionary, but it needs to be. The issue of class (especially rich VS. poor) can never be overlooked.

Hey, let's get all up in arms about a private matter that has NOTHING 2 do with us as individuals.

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Reply #112 posted 09/09/14 4:12pm

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RodeoSchro said:

Janay Rice released a statement. It's sad on pretty much every level possible:

"I woke up this morning feeling like I had a horrible nightmare, feeling like I'm mourning the death of my closest friend. But to have to accept the fact that it's reality is a nightmare in itself. No one knows the pain that the media & unwanted [opinions] from the public has caused my family. To make us relive a moment in our lives that we regret every day is a horrible thing. To take something away from the man I love that he has worked his ass of for all his life just to gain ratings is horrific. THIS IS OUR LIFE! What don't you all get. If your intentions were to hurt us, embarrass us, make us feel alone, take all happiness away, you've succeeded on so many levels. Just know we will continue to grow & show the world what real love is! Ravensnation we love you!"

THIS is one question that I have for Mrs. Janay Rice:

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Reply #113 posted 09/09/14 4:13pm

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People are surprised she is defending him? she married him and she wants to get paid... so that should not shock anyone.

But only a filthy scum would punch a woman like that so she had to know what he was... so her words mean nothing.

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Reply #114 posted 09/09/14 4:25pm

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Something seriously wrong with this broad. I don't know if she's staying for the money, for the attention or simply because of a low sense of self-worth. But, when a man physically attacks a woman the way he attacked her, I don't care how much you claim (think) you love him, he don't love you and obviously, he's sufferring from very low self-esteem and has severe anger/mental issues. They both need help.

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Reply #115 posted 09/09/14 4:27pm

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Graycap23 said:

TonyVanDam said:


I agree with all 5 of your points. But you forgot about "classism". It's not an official word in the American English dictionary, but it needs to be. The issue of class (especially rich VS. poor) can never be overlooked.

Hey, let's get all up in arms about a private matter than has NOTHING 2 do with us as individuals.

This is Age of Social Media! The words "private" & "privacy" means nothing. The Patriot Act makes it OK for the NSA and TMZ to get any audio and/or video recordings that they want. Everyone can use the cameras within their mobile phones and record anything and upload it on YouTube & Dailymotion as much as they please (barring setbacks by Google of course).



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Reply #116 posted 09/09/14 4:29pm

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Don't watch the Ray Rice video. Don't ask why Janay Palmer married him. Ask why anyone would blame a victim

That we feel entitled to images of a woman being abused speaks volumes not only about the man who battered her, but about us

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ray rice janay rice presserJanay Rice, sitting next to her husband Ray, at a press conference in which they explained that he wasn’t perfect. Photograph: Patrick Semansky/AP

Early Monday morning, TMZ released a “cleaned up” video of Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice beating Janay Palmer, his then-fiancée and current wife, in the elevator of an Atlantic City casino. The footage shows Rice, the 206lb (95kg) NFL star, delivering a blow to Palmer that slams her against the elevator railing – that knocks her unconscious. He then drags her body, limp and unresponsive, out of the elevator with a shocking lack of apparent concern.

After investigating the accusations against Rice – to which the Baltimore Ravens running back pleaded not guilty and en...on program for first-time offenders to avoid a trial – NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell handed him a paltry two-game suspension in July. Thousands of people, far and wide, called into question the ...s judgment for such a featherweight punishment of an act so violent.

Now, within a matter of hours following the release of the tape, as those questions ratcheted up, the Ravens have terminated Rice’s contract. Strangely but not surprisingly, scrutiny has also increased around the woman’s behavior – the woman who, by the looks of that very tape, was brutalized.

That we feel entitled (and excited) to access gut-wrenching images of a woman being abused – to be entranced by the looks of domestic violence – speaks volumes not only about the man who battered her, but also about we who gaze in parasitic rapture. We click and consume, comment and carry on. What are we saying about ourselves when we place (black) women’s pain under a microscope only to better consume the full kaleidoscope of their suffering?

This broadcasting of victims’ most vulnerable moments as sites for public commentary is not new. Indeed, victims of abuse have always been forced to recount their traumas to audiences more intent on policing their victimhood than finding justice. With YouTube and TMZ and all the rest, victim blaming extends far past simply being shunned by your immediate community – it means having your most horrific memories go viral without your consent. It means having millions of people virtually dissect your wounds, not to heal them but to decide if your injuries were bad enough for everyone to feel bad for you.

Black women are often systematically excluded from both the category of “woman” and that of “victim”. Our pain, these days as ever, can never be pure enough.

When Chris Brown assaulted Rihanna in 2009, images of her bruised face surfaced and spread across the web. Despite the female pop star’s wishes that the photos not be publicized, they were used by everyone from feminist advocates trying to make a point about Brown’s violence to someone promoting the male pop st... in Sweden. People couldn’t turn away; there was something addictive about her visible agony, both as misery porn and an all-purpose rhetorical tool.

We viciously ingest every vivid detail of women’s victimization, line our stomachs with their blood and tell ourselves we’re watching because we want people to be “educated”. If only people could see enough black eyes, bloodied faces and broken ribs, the theory goes. Then they would know the truth, we tell ourselves. Only then would they care.

But that deluded fetishization is every bit as untrue as it is exploitative. In reproducing victims’ trauma over and over, we only expose them to more harm. Throughout this six-week public ordeal, Janay Palmer’s pain has been minimalized, her judgment called into question. “Why did she marry him after he beat her?” reverberates around the web and in our minds, an accusation masquerading as a concern. When victims reveal their experiences (or have their experiences revealed by someone else), viewers reach for pre-packaged answers, rather than listen to victims themselves.

It is easier to believe that a woman “provoked” catastrophic violence from a supposedly otherwise peaceful man than it is to come to terms with the fact that a well-liked public figure is abusive. It is easier to conceive Palmer as an accomplice in her own beating than it is to realize that almost half of black women killed by their partners were killed as they tried to leave.

The official Baltimore Ravens account tweeted this earlier in the summer:

That is evidence of how far we will go to avoid demanding accountability from perpetrators as we continue to watch their victims bleed for us. That is the most perverse of pleasures, the hollow indulgence of someone else’s pain. We are wedded to our own numbing ignorance, to the slow venom that silences victims and emboldens abusers. It is comforting to think you could never be a victim, that you are better or smarter or more innocent than that wayward woman who “should’ve known”.

But in a world in which one in four women is the victim of intimate partner violence and black women are disproportionately targeted, this victim blaming is not just irresponsible; it is lethal. Black women are punished when attempting to defend themselves: 94% of black female homicide victims are killed by people they know and 64% of those victims are wives, ex-wives or girlfriends of their killers. Who will support victims when abuse is not recorded and pre-packaged solely for our consumption but subtle and drawn out, or when the state itself commits violence?

If we viewed victims as more than a link to be tweeted, more than statistics to be reported to a broken criminal justice system, we would have to grapple with their complex humanity. We would have to offer meaningful solutions to violence, holistic responses to trauma, and accountability for abusers whom we may love. We would have to do more than just watch.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/08/ray-rice-domestic-violence-video-janay-palmer-victim-blaming

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Reply #117 posted 09/09/14 4:30pm

CynicKill

Janay Rice is kinda right though. They are obviously trying to get past it yet a "horrified" public won't let it go. What she really got right was that the concern is not genuine. It's just an exploitative news cycle meant to embarrass, demean and profit off of. Once these stories blow up like this it just becomes entertainment. And guess what; domestic violence won't stop in fact it will only seem like it's getting worse, but by that time the public and media will grow too bored to notice, meanwhile tearing a family and lives apart.

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Reply #118 posted 09/09/14 4:33pm

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kitbradley said:

Something seriously wrong with this broad. I don't know if she's staying for the money, for the attention or simply because of a low sense of self-worth. But, when a man physically attacks a woman the way he attacked her, I don't care how much you claim (think) you love him, he don't love you and obviously, he's sufferring from very low self-esteem and has severe anger/mental issues. They both need help.

Bingo. nod And also, she didn't want to spend the rest of her life "Waiting To Exhale". rolleyes

You know how some of my black sistas (especially the dark-skinned ones) complain about a "good black man" is hard to find especially if white women, Latina women, transgender women and even some gay/bi men are taking most of the best "good black men" away.

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Reply #119 posted 09/09/14 4:45pm

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CynicKill said:

I should probably watch the video before commenting but I'm reluctant. What I will say is I wish these black athletes would get it together. Now we have another black face to be the representative for domestic abuse in the media.



This isn't a black thing, despite the race-baiting that Graycap is attempting.

It wouldn't matter what color the man is. When you see the video, you will understand that the reaction most have would be the same no matter what color the man.

On top of how bad the punch was (and it was really bad), Rice's reaction appears to be "Oh man. Why did she have to go and ruin my day by getting herself knocked out?" We can't hear anything Rice says, but he doesn't appear very concerned about picking his wife off the floor.

He's allegedly an NFL running back, and he isn't strong enough to pick a woman up? Yeah, right. He could, he just didn't care to. Hell, at one point he kicks her legs out of the way, trying to get the elevator door to close. The pussy wouldn't even bend over and pick her up. What a total pussy Ray Rice is.

It's a very disturbing and disgusting video.

that's my reaction, too. all the way around, people should keep their hands to themselves. i think that solange was WAY out of line to be kicking at, or spitting at, jay-z. but good for him for realizing that there is an unequal power balance there, and he knew that he could have really done her damage if he had smacked her. (if i were him, though, i don't think i could be around solange anymore. i could be civil but that's about it.) in this case, it's not just that rice must have known that even if she was trying to slap him, he should not have gone in on her b/c of the damage he knew he could do to her, it's that he seems so very, very unremorseful and contemptuous of her. really, you DRAG the mother of your child out of the elevator?

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