As I stated, what other player has been suspened indefinitely 4 this?
None. I don't attribute this to his rave though. I attributes it to societies changing view of domestic viiolence and public figuresbgetting passes...also, the nfl's attempt to control The PR in regards to this. I've seen many a black man spend time in jail for this and Ray's spent none and likely won't. I'm sure he's not the first man to loose his job(temporarily here...it likely won't b a lifelong ban) cuz of domestic violence. Lifelong bans seemed reserved for gamblers and game fixers. Some seasons were given to DUI'ers War machine isn't black...but he's gonna get time and he's lost his way to make a living as well. I don't think it hit the tv media heavily cuz it was properly(IMO) address by his employers and was hunted down by the police after he went on the lamb. Plus homegirlbis a raunch porn star(filthy nasty and I like her...lots) and would b hard to cover heavily in the media cuz of the general publics perception of porn stars...espicially raunchy ones who get slapped any go ATM regularly. He's not black and was treated harshly and appropriately. Rays black and was treated nicely(relatively). I know that blacks get harsh scentencing terms in our judicial system as well as in the public. I attribute all this media attention to the NFL's idiocy. The NFL trying to play ignorant while covering it up is mentioned as much, if not more than ray punching his wife is mentioned. Sometimes ray is mentioned only to get to the gooddell story. Legally, rays getting off where many a black man would be in jail. Is his punishment about race cuz he's getting off?
I wish u were correct but I've been in these shoes for 50 years. I know better.
You didn't answer any of my questions. It's hard to admit when you get schooled, right? Anyway, go back and read the thread that YOU started about the Jewish influence on Prince's music/Purple Rain/career and how that thread turned into a discussion about Family Name and Jewish control of the entertainment industry. Thanks and let's just agree to disagree at this point because you didn't even bother to acknowledge anything that I wrote in the previous post because the truth hurts. Now, run along and get your Ben Carson jersey before it's too late. Be sure to cheer for him loudly when he has his next medical breakthrough discovery.
F Hmmmm suspect
Admit what Seventeen days?
You have a problem. You have race problem. Are you SERIOUS??? Are you seriously upset about a general post about that Jewish post. Those were NOT my words. I just post something I saw on the web. I don't even think I had a response to it. AND IT WASN'T EVEN A SERIOUS POST!!!! ARE YOU SERIOUSLY pulling up some old thread about PURPLE RAIN an those Jewish people in the group? SERIOUSLY?
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You don't deserve for me to answer questions.
You have race issue boo boo.
Just because someone doesnt' agree with you doesn't mean they have race issues.
Unless u actually bother 2 read my post, I won't bother to respond.
As I stated, what other player has been suspened indefinitely 4 this?
None. I don't attribute this to his rave though. I attributes it to societies changing view of domestic viiolence and public figuresbgetting passes...also, the nfl's attempt to control The PR in regards to this. I've seen many a black man spend time in jail for this and Ray's spent none and likely won't. I'm sure he's not the first man to loose his job(temporarily here...it likely won't b a lifelong ban) cuz of domestic violence. Lifelong bans seemed reserved for gamblers and game fixers. Some seasons were given to DUI'ers War machine isn't black...but he's gonna get time and he's lost his way to make a living as well. I don't think it hit the tv media heavily cuz it was properly(IMO) address by his employers and was hunted down by the police after he went on the lamb. Plus homegirlbis a raunch porn star(filthy nasty and I like her...lots) and would b hard to cover heavily in the media cuz of the general publics perception of porn stars...espicially raunchy ones who get slapped any go ATM regularly. He's not black and was treated harshly and appropriately. Rays black and was treated nicely(relatively). I know that blacks get harsh scentencing terms in our judicial system as well as in the public. I attribute all this media attention to the NFL's idiocy. The NFL trying to play ignorant while covering it up is mentioned as much, if not more than ray punching his wife is mentioned. Sometimes ray is mentioned only to get to the gooddell story. Legally, rays getting off where many a black man would be in jail. Is his punishment about race cuz he's getting off?
I wish u were correct but I've been in these shoes for 50 years. I know better.
Well I suppose I can attribute having to wake up at 3:30 am instead 7am to go to work to race in america. [Edited 9/11/14 17:26pm]
Graycap23 said: Well I suppose I can attribute having to wake up at 3:30 am instead 7am to go to work to race in america. [Edited 9/11/14 17:26pm]
That is called the rat..............race.
Lemme guess, his anthem waking up in the morning is the following. Man, what a rude thing to say to insist that blacks are lazy. See waking up at 3:30 a.m. anthem below. Warning, offensive language used. Just look at these hard working black men who are/were probably fans of Ray Rice, another hard working black man, just like Prince and Morgan Freeman, Mike Will Made It, etc.
I don't know how or why this issue veered off from domestic violence into a fucking RACE thread, but it's not cool. Not one bit.
FIRST & FOREMOST, Rice is a public figure. An Pro-athlete who doesn't get paid millions of dollars a year to JUST catch a ball, but rather for being a part of a pro sports organization, whose name (& Jersey #) is recognized by MILLIONS of people, and who IS SUPPOSED TO BE A POSITIVE ROLE MODEL FOR OUR YOUTH!!! Has anyone taken that into account?
SMDMFH
If you are a pro athlete, making gazillions of dollars, then behave like someone of your status in life. Plain & simple. You have no problem knocking out your girl behind closed doors? Then move on. Keep going. There's thousands of other athletes itching to take your spot.
If Rice were NOT a public figure...no one would be talking about it here. NO ONE. Has nothing to do with race and everything to do with the organization that he REPRESENTS.
By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory!
Your reaction is: U can give your opinions on the situation, but others are limited 2 your interpretation.
Is that correct?
[Edited 9/11/14 18:48pm]
I assume you are responding to me...
My reaction is: Utter disbelief that anyone would have an issue with Rice being fired and subject to criticism regardless of his skin color, one way or the other.
THAT is my reaction. That is my shock and disbelief.
Dude clocked his girl out COLD. That was my daughter, I'd be waiting for him with a machete in hand.
How this can be considered a "race" issue is completely beyond me. I don't for ONE FRACTION OF A SECOND think that anything woud have gone down ANY different if that had been Johnny Manziel or Victor Cruz dragging his knocked-out girl across the cold hard floor.
By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory!
No wonder people are leaving this place in droves.
I'm blown away. Really, truly blown away.
You know what...carry on. Disregard my posts. Just my old, delusional self spewing nonsense.
Don't pay attention to the man behind the green curtain.
MODS: Can we move this thread where it belongs now - to P&R - so I can go back to posting about flowers & butteflies please?
How convenient that you skipped over 10 pages of comments that I have written to harpoon this thread because I wrote the word fascism. Geez. If you don't agree then don't agree with someone but to say that this thread has jumped the shark is ridiculous. Ray Rice is a black man so did you honestly think that race wasn't going to be brought up at some point? Geez. Nobody is saying domestic violence doesn't happen in all cultures but some of you insist on being blind in this regard so have at it.
Am I the only one who is noticing that during this Steelers Ravens game that they keep putting the camera on young female fans in the audience? Seems like a PR stunt to make it seem that female fans haven't been ticked off by this. There are also reports of fans, including women, wearing Rice's jersey saying that if you hit someone you "deserve" to get hit back. Wow.
No wonder people are leaving this place in droves.
I'm blown away. Really, truly blown away.
You know what...carry on. Disregard my posts. Just my old, delusional self spewing nonsense.
Don't pay attention to the man behind the green curtain.
MODS: Can we move this thread where it belongs now - to P&R - so I can go back to posting about flowers & butteflies please?
How convenient that you skipped over 10 pages of comments that I have written to harpoon this thread because I wrote the word fascism. Geez. If you don't agree then don't agree with someone but to say that this thread has jumped the shark is ridiculous. Ray Rice is a black man so did you honestly think that race wasn't going to be brought up at some point? Geez. Nobody is saying domestic violence doesn't happen in all cultures but some of you insist on being blind in this regard so have at it.
You posted it. It is ridiculous.
I didn't skip through all of it, my mind just went numb when I started seeing the insinuations being made that the punishment was a result of his skin color.
I'm sorry, but I am angry because some people AREN'T.
There were ALOT of well-made comments made about this before race started to get thrown around. BobGeorge posted a VERY valid & well-written response, summarily dismissed "Because I Said So."
Yes, it jumped the shark.
By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory!
How convenient that you skipped over 10 pages of comments that I have written to harpoon this thread because I wrote the word fascism. Geez. If you don't agree then don't agree with someone but to say that this thread has jumped the shark is ridiculous. Ray Rice is a black man so did you honestly think that race wasn't going to be brought up at some point? Geez. Nobody is saying domestic violence doesn't happen in all cultures but some of you insist on being blind in this regard so have at it.
You posted it. It is ridiculous.
I didn't skip through all of it, my mind just went numb when I started seeing the insinuations being made that the punishment was a result of his skin color.
I'm sorry, but I am angry because some people AREN'T.
There were ALOT of well-made comments made about this before race started to get thrown around. BobGeorge posted a VERY valid & well-written response, summarily dismissed "Because I Said So."
Yes, it jumped the shark.
Who exactly said that this punishment was about his color? Which post number was it?
Your reaction is: U can give your opinions on the situation, but others are limited 2 your interpretation.
Is that correct?
[Edited 9/11/14 18:48pm]
I assume you are responding to me...
My reaction is: Utter disbelief that anyone would have an issue with Rice being fired and subject to criticism regardless of his skin color, one way or the other.
THAT is my reaction. That is my shock and disbelief.
Dude clocked his girl out COLD. That was my daughter, I'd be waiting for him with a machete in hand.
How this can be considered a "race" issue is completely beyond me. I don't for ONE FRACTION OF A SECOND think that anything woud have gone down ANY different if that had been Johnny Manziel or Victor Cruz dragging his knocked-out girl across the cold hard floor.
Who had issue with Rice? He is a jackass who got what he deserved.
I didn't skip through all of it, my mind just went numb when I started seeing the insinuations being made that the punishment was a result of his skin color.
I'm sorry, but I am angry because some people AREN'T.
There were ALOT of well-made comments made about this before race started to get thrown around. BobGeorge posted a VERY valid & well-written response, summarily dismissed "Because I Said So."
Yes, it jumped the shark.
Who exactly said that this punishment was about his color? Which post number was it?
Folks just can't seem 2 comprehend what they read. My stating that the brothers always get harsher punishments has been turned into the nonsense we are reading in this thread. SMH.
My reaction is: Utter disbelief that anyone would have an issue with Rice being fired and subject to criticism regardless of his skin color, one way or the other.
THAT is my reaction. That is my shock and disbelief.
Dude clocked his girl out COLD. That was my daughter, I'd be waiting for him with a machete in hand.
How this can be considered a "race" issue is completely beyond me. I don't for ONE FRACTION OF A SECOND think that anything woud have gone down ANY different if that had been Johnny Manziel or Victor Cruz dragging his knocked-out girl across the cold hard floor.
Who had issue with Rice? He is a jackass who got what he deserved.
Who had the issue with Rice? I'll wait.
You won't have to wait very long. In fact, if you recall, you are the one that turned this into a race-baiting discussion.
Graycap 23 said:
Interesting that he should be banned for life but folks with known "isms" can simply carry on with thier lives and careers. Dude is a 100% chump for beating a woman and should be punished but it seems a bit harsh 2 effectively end his career.
Reminds me of the Vick situation yet there are folks around the world killing animals every single day of the week for sport. None of those folks are in prison. It would be great 2 see a bit of common sense when it comes 2 handing out punishment for everyone across the board. It seems that the brothers ALWAYS take the hardest hit.
Of course..........we all know race has nothing 2 do with his punishment. If that is your stance, show me another player and any other sport banned for this same action. I'll wait.
Who exactly said that this punishment was about his color? Which post number was it?
Folks just can't seem 2 comprehend what they read. My stating that the brothers always get harsher punishments has been turned into the nonsense we are reading in this thread. SMH.
I guess if you'd ended it there, you might have a point. But you didn't, did you?
Graycap23 said: Of course..........we all know race has nothing 2 do with his punishment. If that is your stance, show me another player and any other sport banned for this same action. I'll wait.
this thread that was intentionally derailed with race baiting. It's about the event and domestic violence itself and has nothing to do with race. Domestic violence happens in all races in all socio-economic groups.
This thread will not be going over to p&r, it's not a race discussion topic. You want to discuss race, create a thread over in p&r.
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this thread that was intentionally derailed with race baiting. It's about the event and domestic violence itself and has nothing to do with race. Domestic violence happens in all races in all socio-economic groups.