And that right there, the way you all treat and accept each other is a perfect example of what is the heart of Christianity. Showing love, acceptance, and charity: all the hoops we jump through to make ourselves worthy before the Lord (or not ) at the end of the day, it is said in Scripture when Jesus came (and mind you being Jewish they had 619 commandments they had to follow day in and and out, not just the 10 we know from Charlton Heston playing Moses on the TV) His followers asked him... umm, out of all this stuff we've been "commanded" to do, what of all of this is most important? And you know what He said?
Love God. Love people. The end.
If more people would concentrate on that instead of trying to run each other down all the time, Chile this earth would be much better off.
Shoot, based on your relationships with others and how you all look out for each other-you are prolly more Christian than you know...even though you can't keep your ding-a-ling in your drawers...but that would likely be more than half of planet earth anyway, so welcome to the club of not being the perfect 100% angel. Shoot, no one is. [Edited 11/10/12 17:07pm] | |
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I have never heard so many judgemental people before. The lady was nice to you and offered you some home -baked goods,you get on the internet and tell the world how messy her home is and that she is an unfit mother!!!!! I would avoid you like the plague. It is none of your/our business what the inside of her home looks like,period.
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Besides,didn't you say she had just moved in to the apartment? Did you expect to walk into the Taj Mahal? With friends like you.... | |
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Being nice is fine and well, but there is point where people have to learn not to impose. I can't really speak for paintedlady, but this seems to be about having healthy boundaries when forming new relationships. Some people have them, and some people don't. Her getting on the board and sharing how she felt isn't particularly a big deal either. That's what people do in the GD Forum. If you stick around a bit you might find that this is a pretty interactive community where people share things that happen to be on their minds and hearts & we all chime in when opinions are asked for- be it about new neighbors, tech recommendations, what to wear to birthday parties or how to survive divorce.
As for the mess she described, I'm not one to want to eat food that looks like it came from something that resembles a rats nest either. Some people just have different standards of cleanliness and what they consider sanitary...obviously. And what the inside of the woman's home looks sort of became painted business the moment she started trying to force feed her sweets prepared in that kind of environment, not to mention trying to impose get-togethers where she would expect painted and her kids to come and sit up in the middle of something that looks like the inside of a trash dumpster. I have moved a good number of times in my life (across oceans even) and there is no excuse for a full month to pass by with a home so littered with junk that one cannot even see or touch the floor. Messy is one thing, but nasty is another, and some people just don't feel comfortable doing nasty. | |
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be kind, be a friend, not a bully. | |
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vain always has the good stories- he always has me like this:
I think he should write his memoirs...and call it something completely crazy like
Ritz Crackers and Moon Pie: Confessions of a Southern Gentleman Rascal
with a picture like this on the cover
and some good lookin', hairy chest man in the background in silhouette. I'd buy it. | |
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Thank you Vain for sharing more of your adventures, man... I really wish you guys were my neighbors. I would have so much fun!
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I respect your opinion, it is a fair one.
I am not her friend though, I do not really know this woman and 1st impressions can be a bitch if you put your mess out there for people to judge.
Now, I was never expecting the Taj Mahal... but I also didn't expect to walk into that type of mess either.
Seriously, if it was just her living like that, then its her business and I would have zero concern. BUT--- she has children in that mess with her, and you invite trouble in your home (ie. getting CPS called on your ass) when you invite strangers in your home in that state because it screams of child negligence.
I will not call CPS on her since I think she is in "transition", like I previously said... but what I saw concerned me deeply.
Again, this woman is NOT my friend, I do not know her except in passing a few times in the hallway. I could have been a social woker for all she knew. If she blows me off and tells me to f--- off then she has that right... but I have to have an honest conversation about this situation when I do catch up with her.
I didn't call her out as soon as I saw that mess, I didn't want to upset her in front of her kids. No mother deserves that disrespect. I think she is gone for the weekend since she didn't answer her door when I went to return her cake plate.
If she were my friend, I would have immediately told her about herself out for putting herself out like that with a perfect stranger.
I thank you for your candor, it is appreciated.
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Not sure if anybody has already mentioned this (I'm too lazy to read all of the posts - lol). I wouldn't want to eat something that was made in a kitchen that was as messy as what was described. I would worry about it being contaminated or something.
I kind of/sort of had a similar situation happen to me a while back. I had a new neighbor across the hall from me, who was a stay-at-home mom with an infant son. Every day without fail, as soon as she heard me come home and open my door, she would come over and knock. She always wanted me to come over and hang out with her for awhile. I can understand why she felt that way, since she stayed home all day, and probably didn't interact with anybody all day. I was just the opposite: I needed my alone time after a long day at work. I had been at work all day, interacting with different people all day. It finally got to the point where I had to nicely tell this woman that I had just come home from work, I was tired, and that after work, I needed my down time. She probably didn't like me saying that, but she got the message. She didn't do it again. She and her husband wound up buying a house and moving out. Hopefully, she's found another stay-at-home mom that she can hang out with. RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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I understand your sentiment. I think some mothers need intellectual stimulation and adult conversation after being around little ones all day. I guess that is what this mother is looking for??
I understand that need, but even though I have kids also, my kids are not as young as hers and we are in different parenting "zones" so to speak. Weeknights in general are not nights I can hang out with folks and shoot the breeze. I am on homework duty with the boy, and dinner must be cooked and home must be put in order in the evenings. Uniforms ironed... yadda yadda. Kids make messes and cleaning up behind them is always constant.
I will admit, the 1st night it was a welcomed surprise to get a cake. It made my evening, but 3 consecutive nights of desserts weirded me out a bit. I am relieved it stopped. Maybe she took the time for herself and her babies. In the future I may return the favor and gift her something nice in return after I establish a few healthy boundaries.
If she declines, I will respect it and not be offended if she does. I really hope she does jion in the community groups though, her daughter will love the other girls that frequent the garden and playgrounds. At any rate, my new neighbor can make many friends with the folks who live in our community.
There is also a new Movie Night on Fridays at the teen center. I never go. I left the flyers for her at her door.
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I'm like Ottie. I would LOVE to have you as a neighbor. You're a sweetie with charm and talent who has a big heart. I just loved your story about your witness friend and Ritz crackers. Bless your heart, Andy. GOOOOD CRACKA! | |
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PERFECT! DO IT, ANDY!!!
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Tell her you don't like chocolate.
Tell her politely you don't want her as a friend.
What her flat or kids look like is none of your business.
I had a neighbour that was a bit of a pest once, it was getting on my tits till I discovered her daughter was shaggable as fuck.
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Girl, did you ever hear his story about the Moon Pie hooker? I think that might be one of the stories in the org storytelling Hall of Fame. When I read it I like to have died literally because I choked on whatever it was I was snacking on at the time | |
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Soon enough Vain would be posting on the org about this paintedlady who keeps trying to stop by his apartment for conversations about some dull ass slow music and how he just can't seem to get rid of her Music, sweet music, I wish I could caress and...kiss, kiss... | |
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Something tells me though, that music or no music... any conversation between Painted and Vain would quickly turn NC-17. By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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...and I don't do "dull" music... I like the same funk jams Vain does. :rock:
actually, I like all types of music. | |
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OK I was FINALLY able to catch up with my new neightbor.
I asked her not to make me any more baked goods, I told her I found it to be a nice gesture but, I was overwhelmed by the daily goodies.
She told me she was loved to baked cakes and told her she was threatened by another mother in the neighborhood for giving the neighborhood children baked goods and she wanted to give SOMEONE the cakes she baked...
I told her to stop it before some people rounded up with pitchforks and went on some witch hunt after her because people are not used to "nice" around here and told her "balance is key to any friendship" and that no one should be baking that much.
She laughed, so I think she was OK with that.
We kept talking and I also exploeined I liked to be alone for the most part, but I extended an open invitation to the gardening club, exercise club, health class and movie nights at the teen center. I told her I wasn't good with noise or children that were under five.. that even though she seemed nice I could not spend much time with her in my space. So the invites to my place were a no-go.
Also told her about how nice her kids were and if she needed a good after school program I could help her with that.
She told me she is battling depression and is on meds, so I told her not to worry so much about making friends, that she was a lovely person and in time the friendship bonds would happen naturally.
I wished her a good evening, and then she went to invite me to go to hang out with her tomorrow morning.
I politely declined, then she said... OK!! Maybe Wednesday then. I let out a deep sigh and just said good night to her.
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I've learned that everyone likes a few artists that are hella too dull for Andy Music, sweet music, I wish I could caress and...kiss, kiss... | |
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I like enough stuff that we wouldn't have to listen to anything Andy wouldn't dig... besides, we might be to busy talking trash and laughing our butts off about his crazy stories.
He really does need to write a book!! | |
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...so...what type of cake did she bake you TODAY? By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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No doubt, that book would be GOLD, BABY.
Even just an unauthorized compilation of his posts here would be an intoxicating read, not to mention shocking to the general population Music, sweet music, I wish I could caress and...kiss, kiss... | |
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IKR!
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While I can see why it can be nice to get along with your neighbours and helping each other out and stuff like that, it is something I am absolutely not used to and probably something I would find very awkward and maybe even impolite.
It may be a culture thing, or that people here in Vienna are simply a bit more private and less social when it comes to their neighbours, but it is something I could never imagine happening here. I don't even know who my neighbours are. I greet them whenever I meet them at the door and have helped a younger mum carry her shopping up the stairs, but that's about it.
If someone came knowing at my door, offering me food, I'd be extremely surprised and probably accept it once. The second time I'd ask them why they were doing it. The third time I'd tell them "please no more food, I can't and don't want to accept that much". | |
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~~~~~ Oh that voice...incredible....there should be a musical instrument called George Michael... ~~~~~ | |
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What you describe is what is the norm in my building/neighborhood as well, this is why the community garden space and the teencenter/gym is where the neighbors get to meet eachother and become friends. On the street we just walk by each other and in the building things are pretty quiet and folks just keep to themselves for the most part.... until "the baker" came along.
Yeah, I shouldda said "No thanks" from the jump.... poor thang, she just likes to bake in her tow up kitchen to spread joy.
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You ain't right... By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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Yeah, but she funny as hell | |
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