scandalousalan said:

haha, get over yourself!, if you have to bring self esteem and penis size into this thread i'm guessing you have the issues. Direct graphic detail does not always shock anyway, well at least for me it doesn't. Context can be far more powerful.

You insulted my intelligence (with incorrect information, I might add) TWICE, for no reason. What response were you expecting, exactly? And have you even seen Antichrist? To say that there is nothing shocking about that movie - in concept, theme, CONTEXT or execution - is ridiculous.

PunkMistress said:

BlackAdder7 said:

this was far worse...Reanimator. Any movie that has a disembodied head going down ona a girl who's laying on an autopsy table takes the cake...

Well, if that takes the cake, then the one pp4 posted (a father being forced to rape his son while his brother rapes his wife, a man raping a newborn baby) eats the cake and shits it out on your face.

Blam! And there it is.

Cerebus said:

scandalousalan said:

haha, get over yourself!, if you have to bring self esteem and penis size into this thread i'm guessing you have the issues. Direct graphic detail does not always shock anyway, well at least for me it doesn't. Context can be far more powerful.

You insulted my intelligence (with incorrect information, I might add) TWICE, for no reason. What response were you expecting, exactly? And have you even seen Antichrist? To say that there is nothing shocking about that movie - in concept, theme, CONTEXT or execution - is ridiculous.

I just felt like posting the picture and since we're talking religious themes and nasty shit...why not here.

myfavorite said:

I hate the org sometimes...its like walking in and out of a kalaidescope...

Um, no, that's from the crack you have obviously taken, judging from your post earlier.

JoeTyler said:

DesireeNevermind said:

that couldn't have been portrayed in a film.

yes, it is...Serbian Film is truly fucked up...it deserves to be banned/forgotten...

I don't know about banning stuff. That's a slippery slope right there.

scandalousalan said:

Lets be honest here, "Antichrist" was not shocking or disturbing. Anyone who thought so has a low threshold for that kinda thing. It was beautifully shot and pretty original tho.

antichrist is disturbing and shocking, but in a different kind of way, partly because it's done artistically and it's slow moving at times and then weird shit happens, and you're left thinking WTF. it's not really a film intended for the typical horror audience, i mean this is the guy who did dogville and manderlay

myfavorite said:

Im glad yall know about things like that......is the serbian film the same as a snuff film??? I told my kids they were beyond XXX type stuff, just so they'd know.....I hate the thought of people going so far underground to satisfy their fetishes and its scary. I refused to watch Faces of death for the same reason..........im glad to be informed tho.

yall know better than that shyt i know.

i wish i had the stomach to see the human centipede, but damn! didnt that concept come from the 2 girls and a cup thing???

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human caterpillar is hyped like blair witch project, the hype makes you think it's really bad and scarey, but fuck all happens in blair witch, you see nothing but trees and darkness and you are just made to think something scarey is happening

with human caterpillar, if you've seen the dvd cover/poster of the caterpillar then that's about the most shocking image. the only other slightly scarey bits is when the doc is telling the victims what he is going to do to them. the actual horror/violence/blood is a lot less than any saw/hostel type movie. it's more a psychological horror/thriller. it's reasonably well shot too

Sly said:

and sorry unique, i realise i didn't answer your original question. It's an incredibly simple plot that actually doesn't contain tha tmuch gore. Just 3/4 really unplesant scenes. Think Saw, but with children and sex. Not very nice.

And for the record the Saw films are shit. Well, the first one was a lot of fun, but after that..

yeah, the first saw was decent as it was a bit like a horror version of se7en, but the sequels just took the story to daft levels and made the films all about the torture scenes instead. there was an element of mystery and suspense in the first, by the sequels i think people just wanted to see the victims die

i flicked through serbian film and never saw anything that looked bad, it just looked gritty. i think i'll watch it when i have time and report back, i expect it's a case of people who haven't seen it and have no intentions of seeing it are being vocal about it and saying "don't see this horrible film" when they know fuck all about it apart from what they've read about it. typical daily fail reader response

Where is everyone watching it? Online? Cause on Netflix it's not yet released.

unique said:

i flicked through serbian film and never saw anything that looked bad, it just looked gritty. i think i'll watch it when i have time and report back, i expect it's a case of people who haven't seen it and have no intentions of seeing it are being vocal about it and saying "don't see this horrible film" when they know fuck all about it apart from what they've read about it. typical daily fail reader response

You didn't take issue with the guy who delivers the baby and then fucks it?

How about the chick with all her teeth knocked out and throat fucked to death?

If that doesn't look bad to you, either a) you're a sociopath and have done worse, b) are acting to make yourself appear disaffected or c) you didn't see anything and thus know fuck all about it despite "flicking through it" at 24X on the DVD player.

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johnart said:

Where is everyone watching it? Online? Cause on Netflix it's not yet released.

I read about it MONTHS ago at AICN when it was being screened at some film festivals. I downloaded a dvd screener version via a torrent shortly thereafter.

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unique said:

when they know fuck all about it apart from what they've read about it. typical daily fail reader response

No, actually, that's what you're doing. Watch the film before you post silly comments about what other people know, please.

unique said:

myfavorite said:

Im glad yall know about things like that......is the serbian film the same as a snuff film??? I told my kids they were beyond XXX type stuff, just so they'd know.....I hate the thought of people going so far underground to satisfy their fetishes and its scary. I refused to watch Faces of death for the same reason..........im glad to be informed tho.

yall know better than that shyt i know.

i wish i had the stomach to see the human centipede, but damn! didnt that concept come from the 2 girls and a cup thing???

[Edited 10/18/10 9:41am]

human caterpillar is hyped like blair witch project, the hype makes you think it's really bad and scarey, but fuck all happens in blair witch, you see nothing but trees and darkness and you are just made to think something scarey is happening

with human caterpillar, if you've seen the dvd cover/poster of the caterpillar then that's about the most shocking image. the only other slightly scarey bits is when the doc is telling the victims what he is going to do to them. the actual horror/violence/blood is a lot less than any saw/hostel type movie. it's more a psychological horror/thriller. it's reasonably well shot too

Agreed. Didn't live up to the hype at all. It's mostly the idea that's gross. Unless a little puss and blood makes you queasy. I've said previously the only part that was really disturbing for me was the "head" being freaked out about having to "go".

DrRockdapuss said:

Cerebus said:

johnart said:

Where is everyone watching it? Online? Cause on Netflix it's not yet released.

I read about it MONTHS ago at AICN when it was being screened at some film festivals. I downloaded a dvd screener version via a torrent shortly thereafter.

[Edited 10/18/10 23:19pm]

I've never done the torrents stuff. I've always been askurred.

DrRockdapuss said:

unique said:

i flicked through serbian film and never saw anything that looked bad, it just looked gritty. i think i'll watch it when i have time and report back, i expect it's a case of people who haven't seen it and have no intentions of seeing it are being vocal about it and saying "don't see this horrible film" when they know fuck all about it apart from what they've read about it. typical daily fail reader response

You didn't take issue with the guy who delivers the baby and then fucks it?

How about the chick with all her teeth knocked out and throat fucked to death?

If that doesn't look bad to you, either a) you're a sociopath and have done worse, b) are acting to make yourself appear disaffected or c) you didn't see anything and thus know fuck all about it despite "flicking through it" at 24X on the DVD player.

[Edited 10/18/10 23:33pm]

But does this movie gloryfy any of those things? Sadly those kind of horrific acts do happen (I don't know about the rape immediately from delivery, but babies do get raped). I'm imagining, from what I've read that this is a film about how disturbing these acts and behavior are rather than being for enjoyment.

The rape scene in Irreversible is pretty close (for me) to what the throat fucked to death sounds like. Irreversible is a movie I never want to see again in my life. But I am glad that I saw it one time.

johnart said:

JoeTyler said:

yes, it is...Serbian Film is truly fucked up...it deserves to be banned/forgotten...

I don't know about banning stuff. That's a slippery slope right there.

Even the when the baby comes straight out the womb just to be...wait, you netflixed this right? It#s hard not to spill the details. But while Serbian Film isn't traditional horror, it's prolly the sickest thing you'll ever witness. I thought I was such a hard ass because I hung out with punk kids when I was a teenager and they hipped me onto films like Faces of Death..but this serbian thing right hurrre. some things are better left unsaid and unseen in this world, for real.

I'm just gonna watch

It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown

and call it a day

Ottensen said:

johnart said:

I don't know about banning stuff. That's a slippery slope right there.

Even the when the baby comes straight out the womb just to be...wait, you netflixed this right? It#s hard not to spill the details. But while Serbian Film isn't traditional horror, it's prolly the sickest thing you'll ever witness. I thought I was such a hard ass because I hung out with punk kids when I was a teenager and they hipped me onto films like Faces of Death..but this serbian thing right hurrre. some things are better left unsaid and unseen in this world, for real.

I'm going under the assumption here that they are not putting an actors dick on an actual baby to depict this...so yes, I would say even then I would be against banning. I'm not against folk saying or feeling that people should not see this film, but unless there is actual human/animal harm I'm pretty much always gonna be against banning and censorship.

I might regret watching this film when I do. I might not even make it through, who knows, but I just can't get behind censorship in any way shape or form.

johnart said:

Ottensen said:

Even the when the baby comes straight out the womb just to be...wait, you netflixed this right? It#s hard not to spill the details. But while Serbian Film isn't traditional horror, it's prolly the sickest thing you'll ever witness. I thought I was such a hard ass because I hung out with punk kids when I was a teenager and they hipped me onto films like Faces of Death..but this serbian thing right hurrre. some things are better left unsaid and unseen in this world, for real.

I'm going under the assumption here that they are not putting an actors dick on an actual baby to depict this...so yes, I would say even then I would be against banning. I'm not against folk saying or feeling that people should not see this film, but unless there is actual human/animal harm I'm pretty much always gonna be against banning and censorship.

I might regret watching this film when I do. I might not even make it through, who knows, but I just can't get behind censorship in any way shape or form.

Okay, I understand how you feel.

I'll just say that this flick would definitely fall under the "why did I let my morbid curiosity get the best of me?" catagory. It's definitely one of those "enter at your own risk" kinda flicks, but knowing what a curious quizzical type you are, I say have at it, but caution you that it's gonna hurt'cha for a little while after. You gon be messed up, but I reckon you can take it. You can find it online, I'm sure. Just type in the film title followed by the words watch online and it will give you some streaming sites where you don't actually have to download stuff and can watch it almost like watching something on youtube.

unique said:

I haven't seen those parts. I just jumped to a few bits to see if it looked too horrible to watch or not

Oh. So you based your opinion on the lighting. And I based mine on the script. And I'm a daily fail reader.

Ottensen said:

johnart said:

I'm going under the assumption here that they are not putting an actors dick on an actual baby to depict this...so yes, I would say even then I would be against banning. I'm not against folk saying or feeling that people should not see this film, but unless there is actual human/animal harm I'm pretty much always gonna be against banning and censorship.

I might regret watching this film when I do. I might not even make it through, who knows, but I just can't get behind censorship in any way shape or form.

Okay, I understand how you feel.

I'll just say that this flick would definitely fall under the "why did I let my morbid curiosity get the best of me?" catagory. It's definitely one of those "enter at your own risk" kinda flicks, but knowing what a curious quizzical type you are, I say have at it, but caution you that it's gonna hurt'cha for a little while after. You gon be messed up, but I reckon you can take it. You can find it online, I'm sure. Just type in the film title followed by the words watch online and it will give you some streaming sites where you don't actually have to download stuff and can watch it almost like watching something on youtube.

I never said I wasn't skurred. I'll let you know if I actually do watch and if I make it through.

johnart said:

But does this movie gloryfy any of those things? Sadly those kind of horrific acts do happen (I don't know about the rape immediately from delivery, but babies do get raped). I'm imagining, from what I've read that this is a film about how disturbing these acts and behavior are rather than being for enjoyment.

The rape scene in Irreversible is pretty close (for me) to what the throat fucked to death sounds like. Irreversible is a movie I never want to see again in my life. But I am glad that I saw it one time.

I'm not sayin it necessarily glorifies these things, but our alleged protagonist does equally tragic acts. I understand your point that horrible things happen on Earth. That's true. But this isn't like God Grew Tired of Us or some documentary to shed light on a horrible thing we've been ignoring. It's torture porn from the minds of filmmakers who intend to make you regret trusting them with your eyes.

I saw Irreversible. And though that was really bad, for some odd reason, the younger the victim, the worse I perceive the trauma to be. Maybe that's just me. That's why newborns and twelve year old boys gettin raped in a movie for shock value strikes me as crossing the line. All things considered, 70's exploitation films have started worse than Irreversible, only to have the victim come back and fuck shit up on the perp in the end. There's no coming back for little kids.

johnart said:

Where is everyone watching it? Online? Cause on Netflix it's not yet released.

What, Antichrist? I saw it on Netflix back in July.

ScarletScandal said:

johnart said:

Where is everyone watching it? Online? Cause on Netflix it's not yet released.

What, Antichrist? I saw it on Netflix back in July.

No, Serbian. Ottessen made a suggestion.

AC is on my queue already.

DrRockdapuss said:

johnart said:

But does this movie gloryfy any of those things? Sadly those kind of horrific acts do happen (I don't know about the rape immediately from delivery, but babies do get raped). I'm imagining, from what I've read that this is a film about how disturbing these acts and behavior are rather than being for enjoyment.

The rape scene in Irreversible is pretty close (for me) to what the throat fucked to death sounds like. Irreversible is a movie I never want to see again in my life. But I am glad that I saw it one time.

I'm not sayin it necessarily glorifies these things, but our alleged protagonist does equally tragic acts. I understand your point that horrible things happen on Earth. That's true. But this isn't like God Grew Tired of Us or some documentary to shed light on a horrible thing we've been ignoring. It's torture porn from the minds of filmmakers who intend to make you regret trusting them with your eyes.

I saw Irreversible. And though that was really bad, for some odd reason, the younger the victim, the worse I perceive the trauma to be. Maybe that's just me. That's why newborns and twelve year old boys gettin raped in a movie for shock value strikes me as crossing the line. All things considered, 70's exploitation films have started worse than Irreversible, only to have the victim come back and fuck shit up on the perp in the end. There's no coming back for little kids.

I hear and understand what you're saying. I just can't tell if something is just for entertainment shock value or makes some sort of point in context without seeing it (or attempting to). I'm not debating that you're wrong for being able to make that distinction. I'm just saying I can't.

DrRockdapuss said:

johnart said:

Ottensen said:

Okay, I understand how you feel.

I'll just say that this flick would definitely fall under the "why did I let my morbid curiosity get the best of me?" catagory. It's definitely one of those "enter at your own risk" kinda flicks, but knowing what a curious quizzical type you are, I say have at it, but caution you that it's gonna hurt'cha for a little while after. You gon be messed up, but I reckon you can take it. You can find it online, I'm sure. Just type in the film title followed by the words watch online and it will give you some streaming sites where you don't actually have to download stuff and can watch it almost like watching something on youtube.

I never said I wasn't skurred. I'll let you know if I actually do watch and if I make it through.

I am definitely one of those people who lets my curiosity get the best of me with films and then I end up like this:

so just know that if you can barely hold on getting through it, you have the rest of us here who can say, you aren't alone

'cause that sh** is mad fu**k*d up, yo.

May I present Exit to Eden.

Within this clip, you'll see a kid totally gettin off on his mom spankin him, Iman stranglin a brahd with her jewelry and Rosie O'Donnell strippin.

Brought to you by Anne Rice.

Edit: upon closer listening to homechick's broken english, that's not his mom. I guess that woulda been too fucked up for Annie. So I guess it's not so bad.

But Rosie strippin, man... c'mon.

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unique said:

i'm not a horror fan but i've watched a few of the so called most scary/horrible movies and found it's all hype, like the human caterpillar

i have serbian film, but haven't watched it, but very quickly scanned through it and saw nothing really shocking. i presume it's the story that's shocking rather than the visuals?

antichrist was quite a hard hitting movie http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0870984/

and i heard orphan was a really good horror flick so i watched it, and the very start minute or two seemed like it was going to be really horrible (the birth sequence), just the way it was filmed and the sound effects, but the rest of the movie was more like a really good thriller instead of gore and stuff. it was really good though

the shining was one of the films that scared me the most, mainly down to the wendy carlos score that set a very offsetting vibe that dug into your nerves, particular in the corridor scenes. i'm a fan of all the kubrick flicks and stephen king wrote some great stories that were made into decent films. i've never read any of the books however. i must say the tv show haven is a load of crap though

bad boy bubby is a film i've had for a while that i've heard is weird/scary so i've not been in the mood to watch that yet. psychologically creepy stuff gets me the most

i've also not watched a lot of the rob zombie type stuff but i saw halloween remake which i thought was good as was the chainsaw massacre remake (original is good too), i don't know if the other films are as good or as gory or more gory, i didn't find them that bad really. i prefer a story rather than just gore. i liked the hostel films tho, and i've seen some very violent flicks like japanese movies like oldboy, so violence doesn't bother me, i just get bored if the story isn't decent. i don't watch films just to see gore and violence, i watch for the story or direction . so those masks of death type movies don't appeal to me at all

Wendy Carlos music wasn't playing in the corridor scene with the two girls in The Shining! I've got that rare soundtrack on record. Listened to it all through 9th grade!