No

Absolutely not.

Hell no! I live in Thailand. That would always result at some point in me cut into pieces, floating down the Chao Phrya river in a counterfeit Adidas hold-all.

Trannys need love too!

Although I can't say I really understand the feeling of being a certain GENDER to the point of re-assigning oneself. Aren't we all masculine and feminine anyway?

Cinnie said:

yes

heybaby said:

I'm sayin, I don't understand why transsexuals don't just stick with what they were born with?

Cinnie said:

i thought that to and it still confuses me but I guess they feel like something totally different on the inside and feel compelled to make the inside look like whatever sex they feel more like on the out side.

it would be nice if someone on the org who has that experience and is comfortable talking about it could explain it.

Yes if it is someone I love. I guess if he changed to female I would become a lesbian.
I would love the person no matter what they are.

shellyevon said:

I don't think I could love a person that much

if my husband became a woman I am positive I would leave him.

shellyevon said:

but you wouldn't DATE a transsexual, right?

psychodelicide said:

The proper term is transgender and my answer is yes

Transgender
An umbrella term for people whose gender identity and/or gender expression differs from the sex they were assigned at birth. The term may include but is not limited to: transsexuals, cross-dressers, and other gender-variant people. Transgender people may identify as female-to-male (FTM) or male-to-female (MTF). Use the descriptive term (transgender, transsexual, cross-dresser, FTM or MTF) preferred by the individual. Transgender people may or may not choose to alter their bodies hormonally and/or surgically.

Transsexual (also Transexual)
An older term which originated in the medical and psychological communities. Many transgender people prefer the term "transgender" to "transsexual." Some transsexual people still prefer to use the term to describe themselves. However, unlike transgender, transsexual is not an umbrella term, and many transgender people do not identify as transsexual. It is best to ask which term an individual prefers.





TRANSGENDER TERMINOLOGY TO AVOID

PROBLEMATIC TERMINOLOGY

PROBLEMATIC: "transgenders," "a transgender"
PREFERRED: "transgender people," "a transgender person"
Transgender should be used as an adjective, not as a noun. Do not say, "Tony is a transgender," or "The parade included many transgenders." Instead say, "Tony is a transgender person," or "The parade included many transgender people."

PROBLEMATIC: "transgendered"
PREFERRED: "transgender"
The word transgender never needs the extraneous "ed" at the end of the word. In fact, such a construction is grammatically incorrect. Only verbs can be transformed into participles by adding "-ed" to the end of the word, and transgender is an adjective, not a verb.

PROBLEMATIC: "sex change," "pre-operative," "post-operative"
PREFERRED: "transition"
Referring to a sex change operation, or using terms such as pre- or post-operative, inaccurately suggests that one must have surgery in order to truly change one's sex.

PROBLEMATIC: "hermaphrodite"
PREFERRED: "intersex person"
The word "hermaphrodite" is an outdated, stigmatizing and misleading word, usually used to sensationalize intersex people.

DEFAMATORY TERMINOLOGY

Defamatory: "deceptive," "fooling," "pretending," "posing," or "masquerading"
Gender identity is an integral part of a person's identity. Please do not characterize transgender people as "deceptive," as "fooling" other people, or as "pretending" to be, "posing" or "masquerading" as a man or a woman. Such descriptions are extremely insulting.

Defamatory: "she-male," "he-she," "it," "trannie," "tranny," "gender-bender"
These words only serve to dehumanize transgender people and should not be used

Janfriend said:

Yes, I know what the words are and what they mean. Transexual and transgender both seem to mean the same thing.
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Janfriend said:

psychodelicide said:

They don't mean the same thing. Sorry, this is a sensitive subject for me
[Edited 11/30/07 23:02pm]

Janfriend said:

They don't? Could you please explain it to me then, because according to what you posted above, they seem to be the same. Also, I've heard both terms being used on the Discovery Health Channel
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psychodelicide said:

Sorry, it's hard to discuss without getting offended, but transgender is an umbrella term. Transsexual is not necessarily a transgender person and the term transsexual is old and offensive. It assumes sex and sexuality when it has nothing to with those things. Usually people who call themselves transsexuals are... hmmm...flamboyant people not trying to live stealth (blend in), but even that is a slippery slope
[Edited 11/30/07 23:12pm]

Janfriend said:

Thanks for clearing that up.

Janfriend said:

I hope you don't mind me asking, but why is it such a touchy subject? You don't even have to give me any details. Quite frankly, I would be happy to accept a simple "It's just personal" type of answer, if that's okay with you. I don't like to delve.....

FarrahMoan said:

I'm wondering about that too.

FarrahMoan said:

Click on the link in my sig and you will know

Janfriend said:

Ahh, I get it now. I changed my title of this thread so that the right term was used. Thanks for the correction there, it's always good to learn something new.
[Edited 11/30/07 23:23pm]

Oh, wow! Okay.....

Janfriend said:

let's have intersex!

Cinnie said:

Cinnie!

Janfriend said:

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Janfriend said:

aaaaaI'm sorry. I am adjusting to my newfound enlightenment and it's awkward!

FarrahMoan said:

Cinnie's cool with me and he knows this

Would you call a man "baby"?

Fauxie said:

Aren't there a lot of "ladyboys" there?