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PrintableElectrostar said: Lizzy7701 said:  Harsher punishment = Less Crime
I've been thinking this for a long time....shit like this is scary and it's only gonna get worse This is just a symptom of an illness. Cure the illness then you stop the symptoms. * what made him do it ? * i don't give a shit what made that nut rape 2 children and a freakin' dog! don't wanna know!i do know that he needs to pay the ultimate price for his actions.he wasn't too insane that he couldn't unzip his pants,right? we have been too soft on these type of scum for too long now,while we are busy trying to "figure out" what makes them scum,they are out on the streets preying after our women,children and now-pets! hang this fucker quick! | |
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wallysafford said: Electrostar said: This is just a symptom of an illness. Cure the illness then you stop the symptoms. * what made him do it ? * i don't give a shit what made that nut rape 2 children and a freakin' dog! don't wanna know!i do know that he needs to pay the ultimate price for his actions.he wasn't too insane that he couldn't unzip his pants,right? we have been too soft on these type of scum for too long now,while we are busy trying to "figure out" what makes them scum,they are out on the streets preying after our women,children and now-pets! hang this fucker quick! There is reason why he did it. In his mind. Maybe we could prevent the same thing happening in the future if we understood why. Yes he's a nutter. But lets solve the problem. Not destroy the evidence. Your method just makes YOU feel better until it happens again. As equality grows, violence declines. | |
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Electrostar said: wallysafford said: i don't give a shit what made that nut rape 2 children and a freakin' dog! don't wanna know!i do know that he needs to pay the ultimate price for his actions.he wasn't too insane that he couldn't unzip his pants,right? we have been too soft on these type of scum for too long now,while we are busy trying to "figure out" what makes them scum,they are out on the streets preying after our women,children and now-pets! hang this fucker quick! There is reason why he did it. In his mind. Maybe we could prevent the same thing happening in the future if we understood why. Yes he's a nutter. But lets solve the problem. Not destroy the evidence. Your method just makes YOU feel better until it happens again. no,my method would insure,for definate,that this scum would never hurt another human or animal(in this case)again in this lifetime! like i said,let me make it clear:I don't care what his reasoning was for raping kids and dogs,he is as good as dead to me,all reasoning out the window. take a harsh stance with these devils,no mercy! just curious,why would you defend a cockroach like this? why would you want to "understand" him or his "reasoning"for commiting these dastardly acts? would you want to know his "reasoning" if it was your daughter that he raped? i bet your soft stance would change if that was the case. | |
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wallysafford said: Electrostar said: There is reason why he did it. In his mind. Maybe we could prevent the same thing happening in the future if we understood why. Yes he's a nutter. But lets solve the problem. Not destroy the evidence. Your method just makes YOU feel better until it happens again. no,my method would insure,for definate,that this scum would never hurt another human or animal(in this case)again in this lifetime! like i said,let me make it clear:I don't care what his reasoning was for raping kids and dogs,he is as good as dead to me,all reasoning out the window. take a harsh stance with these devils,no mercy! just curious,why would you defend a cockroach like this? why would you want to "understand" him or his "reasoning"for commiting these dastardly acts? would you want to know his "reasoning" if it was your daughter that he raped? i bet your soft stance would change if that was the case. For the most part...I agree with you Wallysafford, what ever happened to this sicko has obviously ruined him...ain't no rehabilitating this kid in my book...BUT, per your example....what if HE was YOUR son?  I shudder to think about it myself...and it would be very easy for me to say MY son wouldn't do that...but I bet his parents thought the same thing (maybe not) maybe it was a neighbor who damaged him? or an uncle? or a priest? This leaves the parents in a terrible terrible place. Would you want him strung up and killed if he were Your son?
BUT...I totally agree that punishment for many crimes should be much more harsh, maybe people would think twice about committing them if they KNEW for sure the punishment would be hard and fast. anyway...just something to think about.  "not a fan"  yeah...ok | |
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Shorty said: wallysafford said: no,my method would insure,for definate,that this scum would never hurt another human or animal(in this case)again in this lifetime! like i said,let me make it clear:I don't care what his reasoning was for raping kids and dogs,he is as good as dead to me,all reasoning out the window. take a harsh stance with these devils,no mercy! just curious,why would you defend a cockroach like this? why would you want to "understand" him or his "reasoning"for commiting these dastardly acts? would you want to know his "reasoning" if it was your daughter that he raped? i bet your soft stance would change if that was the case. For the most part...I agree with you Wallysafford, what ever happened to this sicko has obviously ruined him...ain't no rehabilitating this kid in my book...BUT, per your example....what if HE was YOUR son? I shudder to think about it myself...and it would be very easy for me to say MY son wouldn't do that...but I bet his parents thought the same thing (maybe not) maybe it was a neighbor who damaged him? or an uncle? or a priest? This leaves the parents in a terrible terrible place. Would you want him strung up and killed if he were Your son?
BUT...I totally agree that punishment for many crimes should be much more harsh, maybe people would think twice about committing them if they KNEW for sure the punishment would be hard and fast. anyway...just something to think about. no problem,i shall answer your question for you. if "my son" raped or killed children and animals,he would be no son of mine,i would kill him myself.the bloodline would stop right there! see,that's a big part of this problem- some parents don't raise their children up with love and compassion and the next thing you know,the kid is out raping and hurting people.in matters like this it is better to take a hardcore stance and to be ruthless.these type of vermin cannot be rehabilitated,nor should they be;do the crime and ultimately you will suffer the consequences, "consequences" not meaning a nice,cushy rehab center,but a nice hot electric chair. | |
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wallysafford said: Shorty said: For the most part...I agree with you Wallysafford, what ever happened to this sicko has obviously ruined him...ain't no rehabilitating this kid in my book...BUT, per your example....what if HE was YOUR son? I shudder to think about it myself...and it would be very easy for me to say MY son wouldn't do that...but I bet his parents thought the same thing (maybe not) maybe it was a neighbor who damaged him? or an uncle? or a priest? This leaves the parents in a terrible terrible place. Would you want him strung up and killed if he were Your son?
BUT...I totally agree that punishment for many crimes should be much more harsh, maybe people would think twice about committing them if they KNEW for sure the punishment would be hard and fast. anyway...just something to think about. no problem,i shall answer your question for you. if "my son" raped or killed children and animals,he would be no son of mine,i would kill him myself.the bloodline would stop right there! see,that's a big part of this problem- some parents don't raise their children up with love and compassion and the next thing you know,the kid is out raping and hurting people.in matters like this it is better to take a hardcore stance and to be ruthless.these type of vermin cannot be rehabilitated,nor should they be;do the crime and ultimately you will suffer the consequences, "consequences" not meaning a nice,cushy rehab center,but a nice hot electric chair. May I ask if you have children? I think it's easier said than done. but like I said earlier, his parents may have raised him up with love and compassion, but someone else may have abused him...a neighbor, relative or priest perhaps...and maybe his parents don't believe that he did said crimes. Nothing is ever simple, there are so many levels to every situation. I can only hope he didn't damage these 2 little girls so much that they can not get past it either. very sad all the way around."not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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Shorty said: wallysafford said: no problem,i shall answer your question for you. if "my son" raped or killed children and animals,he would be no son of mine,i would kill him myself.the bloodline would stop right there! see,that's a big part of this problem- some parents don't raise their children up with love and compassion and the next thing you know,the kid is out raping and hurting people.in matters like this it is better to take a hardcore stance and to be ruthless.these type of vermin cannot be rehabilitated,nor should they be;do the crime and ultimately you will suffer the consequences, "consequences" not meaning a nice,cushy rehab center,but a nice hot electric chair. May I ask if you have children? I think it's easier said than done. but like I said earlier, his parents may have raised him up with love and compassion, but someone else may have abused him...a neighbor, relative or priest perhaps...and maybe his parents don't believe that he did said crimes. Nothing is ever simple, there are so many levels to every situation. I can only hope he didn't damage these 2 little girls so much that they can not get past it either. very sad all the way around. well put, Shorty. i think in our anger it's easy to want to lash out, but in the long term, it's far more important to learn the reasons for this behavior, and to ensure cases like this do not happen again. | |
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IrresistibleB1tch said: Shorty said: May I ask if you have children? I think it's easier said than done. but like I said earlier, his parents may have raised him up with love and compassion, but someone else may have abused him...a neighbor, relative or priest perhaps...and maybe his parents don't believe that he did said crimes. Nothing is ever simple, there are so many levels to every situation. I can only hope he didn't damage these 2 little girls so much that they can not get past it either. very sad all the way around. well put, Shorty. i think in our anger it's easy to want to lash out, but in the long term, it's far more important to learn the reasons for this behavior, and to ensure cases like this do not happen again. How much more do we need to learn about these sick-fucks! you can "learn" about them all you like,just turn on the news,it is filled with pediophiles,murderers,thugs,scumbags and cretins,daily! time to stand up and take the neighborhoods back from these wimps and punks. no "learning" required... | |
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wallysafford said: IrresistibleB1tch said: well put, Shorty. i think in our anger it's easy to want to lash out, but in the long term, it's far more important to learn the reasons for this behavior, and to ensure cases like this do not happen again. How much more do we need to learn about these sick-fucks! you can "learn" about them all you like,just turn on the news,it is filled with pediophiles,murderers,thugs,scumbags and cretins,daily! time to stand up and take the neighborhoods back from these wimps and punks. no "learning" required... this might feel good to you at the time, but it's terribly short-sighted. i agree he is a sick fuck. but unless you're willing to put some effort into finding out why a person does something like that, you'll have a lot more victims on your conscience, and i for one am not willing to take that chance. | |
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IrresistibleB1tch said: wallysafford said: How much more do we need to learn about these sick-fucks! you can "learn" about them all you like,just turn on the news,it is filled with pediophiles,murderers,thugs,scumbags and cretins,daily! time to stand up and take the neighborhoods back from these wimps and punks. no "learning" required... this might feel good to you at the time, but it's terribly short-sighted. i agree he is a sick fuck. but unless you're willing to put some effort into finding out why a person does something like that, you'll have a lot more victims on your conscience, and i for one am not willing to take that chance. I would rather live with a "conscience" than live with the fact that this maniac/predator might harm someone close to me. | |
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wallysafford said: IrresistibleB1tch said: this might feel good to you at the time, but it's terribly short-sighted. i agree he is a sick fuck. but unless you're willing to put some effort into finding out why a person does something like that, you'll have a lot more victims on your conscience, and i for one am not willing to take that chance. I would rather live with a "conscience" than live with the fact that this maniac/predator might harm someone close to me. that's where your logic falls short. but hey, i don't think i'll ever convince you that two wrongs don't make a right. it's your life - if you'd rather live it in a vindictive way, i don't think i'll be able to stop you. just know that we are missing out on an important lesson if we go down that path.  | |
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wallysafford said: Electrostar said: There is reason why he did it. In his mind. Maybe we could prevent the same thing happening in the future if we understood why. Yes he's a nutter. But lets solve the problem. Not destroy the evidence. Your method just makes YOU feel better until it happens again. no,my method would insure,for definate,that this scum would never hurt another human or animal(in this case)again in this lifetime! like i said,let me make it clear:I don't care what his reasoning was for raping kids and dogs,he is as good as dead to me,all reasoning out the window. take a harsh stance with these devils,no mercy! just curious,why would you defend a cockroach like this? why would you want to "understand" him or his "reasoning"for commiting these dastardly acts? would you want to know his "reasoning" if it was your daughter that he raped? i bet your soft stance would change if that was the case. I never at any time defended this nutter. I never said put this person back into society. Please do not put words into my mouth. But sick stuff like this has happened before. And i dont think until we seriously research and understand WHY then IT WILL continue in the future. Have death sentances in the US stopped murder? We must ask the question WHY and make CHANGES so it DOESNT happen again. Is it society? Is this sick stuff on the increase? Is it influenced by the internet? influenced by tv? Sexually abused by someone? Shown animal porn videos? Please dont say these mediums do not influence people. Billions of pounds are spent every year influencing people through marketing. I fully understand the situation and I DO NOT WANT IT TO HAPPEN TO MY DAUGHTER. Thats is why i take this point of view. [Edited 6/23/05 15:26pm] [Edited 6/23/05 15:32pm] As equality grows, violence declines. | |
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