OK, I got it now. Thanks.

IMO Michaels peak will always be the 1981 tour - which i thankfully saw live!

whatsgoingon said:

Scorp said:

before you were even born and even knew who Michael Jackson was, I had already been there and done that

before you were even born, the real version of Michaelmania had already taken place and went down in the history books

before you were even born, the Jackson 5 Christmas album had already became a classic 16 years prior at the least

before you were even born, they was showing the Wiz annuallly on local TV (before cable became what it is today)

before you were even born, Off The Wall was recognized and called the best, the quientessential r&b/soul album of all time

before you were born, Motown 25 went from a tribute to its owner to a celebratory moment for the ages where education took a backseat the very next day after it aired as principals and school teachers alike did not teach class just to talk about what we had witnessed

before you were even born, the greatest video of all time hadn't premiered, which led to a VHS release of the making of the greatest video of all time

before you were even born, school kids all across the land were standing in line practically hoping that our music teachers would allow us to sing Michael's part singing We Are The World, a song that went down in history where every single radio station across the country played the song simultaneously on the airwaves

all of this is just the tip of the iceberg

you don't even want to go there, not even close

Get the facts right and then u may have a chance

[Edited 10/29/15 21:40pm]

Have to agree with this. The best parts of Michael's career had already taken place before 1987. Many of Michael's current hard-core fans are from the Bad era onwards, but from Bad onwards it was a downwards spiral, unfortunately.

Ego101 said:

IMO Michaels peak will always be the 1981 tour - which i thankfully saw live!

whatsgoingon said:

Have to agree with this. The best parts of Michael's career had already taken place before 1987. Many of Michael's current hard-core fans are from the Bad era onwards, but from Bad onwards it was a downwards spiral, unfortunately.

absolutely, the Triumph Tour was the best live music performances MJ ever did, he would do one round of spins that would into another round of spins w/out breaking stride

the spin was always my favorite dance move by MJ because it set up all of his other moves

and major concepts and themes he featured during his solo tours originated during the Triumph Tour

as good as it got

You know your MJ!

Scorp said:

Ego101 said:

IMO Michaels peak will always be the 1981 tour - which i thankfully saw live!

absolutely, the Triumph Tour was the best live music performances MJ ever did, he would do one round of spins that would into another round of spins w/out breaking stride

the spin was always my favorite dance move by MJ because it set up all of his other moves

and major concepts and themes he featured during his solo tours originated during the Triumph Tour

as good as it got

[Edited 10/31/15 20:11pm]

QueenofPurplePalace said:

Free2BMe said:

QueenofPurplePalace said:

I understand that lol, I personally just felt like Michael was more comfortable with being himself from 1994 and beyond you know? He was working 2x as hard without feeling like idk how to describe it but he didn't feel like a product anymore. Like everything he did felt caculated which isn't a bad thing I mean hey I get it. Ben was beautiful yes it wasn't my cup of tea but it's undeniably a masterpiece. Little Susie is a GORGEOUS song but that gave me nightmares. But back on the topic, I feel like after the 1993 scandal (I rarely address that BS) he felt like he wanted to say what was on his heart and followed his then wife Lisa's advice and made the record raw and just as universal as his other records and it worked. When he took the reigns of producing in I remember it was around Bad ish (don't quote me) he was REALLY going there. I'm not taking away from this genius I'm just saying my own personal opinion.

I agree with you when you say that Michael's best music came after Thriller and Bad. I was around to witness the Thrillermania and there will never be anything EVER like it. However, I am not one of those people who CONTINUES to live in the past as Scorp does. IMO, Michael's music only got better with each album after Thriller. it became more personal, rawer, sexier and "in your face" to the media and his other detractors. Michael was never a coward in his life or his music. The false allegations only made him braver in his music. I appreciate and respected him for that. Nothing has made my fandom waiver. In fact, it has only increased and become even stronger than ever.

for like the 1,000th time you are wrong again,

no, for the 2,000th time you are wrong again

this is what happens when a person jumps to conclusions when they dont' like what's being said

before the internet even existed, back in 1991, 1992, and 1993

when Dangerous was released in November of 1991, I was just as eager to buy it as I was the day Bad was released

and during Dangerous run, and after, I always said it should have received more critical claim than it did and that it was an excellent album throughout, and during the time the album was out, I never compared it to Off The Wall or Thriller and that's how I approached all of his albums, basing them off of its own merit

AND to this day, as of 2015, Will You Be There remains my favorite MJ song since the 90s, and always viewed that song as one of the greatest recordings he ever gave.........

still have the original CD of Dangerous to this day w/the broken CD case and all as a keepsake

AND always said his performance of Heal The World at the 1993 Super Bowl in Pasadena, California was one of the most touching moments of his career

when History was released in June of 2015, I got that album too the week of release, as I was anticipating it good to a year in advance when word came out in 1994 that the album was being worked on for initially, the album was supposed to feature all new music then MJ scrapped that idea to go w/the one CD featuring all this top charting classics and the second CD featuring new songs........

and always said Earth Song should have been released as a single here in North America, that it was poignant, called for universal action to confront the activities that were harming the planet, always said the song Little Susie showcased his vocal ability in the most unique way, always said the single Money should have been released as a single to for that was one of the best songs on the album, that I loved the inspiration of the title track History and how much I enjoyed it, in the same vein that I did the song Keep The Faith from Dangerous, that Tabloid Junkie was power packed and that the hook and the chorus were A-1.....and I know the facts never picked up on this and haven't to this day, in the album booklet, MJ featured that famous picture of him standing on his toes during the Triumph Tour sporting the original glittered socks, hoping that image would endear the audience he knew he had lost some 8 years prior would be moved to buy the album.

same thing goes for the album Invincible, as I bought that the day of release back in October of 2001, as I was anticipating that album almost TWO years in advance as Rodney Jerkins gave an interview with Vibe Magazine back in 1999 stating he was producing it, w/he and MJ spending 18 hours a day in the studio trying to record it, always said the single Break of Dawn was one of the top 10 greatest recordings of his entire career as that song was perfect from beginnign to end, Break of Dawn would have been a #1 record if it had been released as a single, and that Heaven Can Wait was a beautiful song as well, and that could have been released as a single, and Whatever happens complimented the current phase of his career in a very appropriate way, and despite of what he was accused of 8 years prior, I really liked the song The Lost Children as well, I loved the song Cry as well, for that was the last song he recorded that called on the universal message of togetherness

the problem is what you is what you think about my thoughts w/out you actually thinking

the fact that a person would like an artist's music for "being in your face" to the media is what pushed him to the brink, because that's a battle nobody is going to win, one that never needed to be in the first place, for he sure didn't have to be "in your face" to the media during the beginning stage of his adult solo career for his musical message stood out in the most definitive way where he didnt' NEED to war w/the media, for the media, and the public, and the world embraced that message tenfold

Michael Jackson never needed to go that route w/the media, but as that battle sprung and progressed, the media got the upper hand, and once they did, it was TOAST, and that battle actually detracted from the message he intended to convey when this all started, and that's why songs like Will You Be There and Earth Song and Cry did not receive the long lasting stature than songs like Can You Feel It did, for the message had been completely undermined by the time the mid 90s hit

I always said that History should acknowledge that MJ made great and accomplished music post Thriller but the problem is the false image he would come to project starting in 1987 undermines that fact and that's why his current following have to always mention that to be the case.

as far as being rawer, nothing MJ did was more raw than the way he performed during that Triumph Tour of 1981, he was unleashing dance moves on teh fly, it was so raw, people wasn't even trying to emulate the dance moves, this was the period of his career that was referred to as "The Magic of Michael Jackson" which is the reason J. Randy Taraborelli named his unofficially official autobiographical book on MJ "The Magic and the Madness" because all you had in teh beginning WAS The Magic

and if a poll was taken by ALL of Michael Jackson's fans from 1969-2015, and asked them what as his greatest love song, slow jam, more than likely, the song that would be chosen as the top one would be LADY IN MY LIFE

as I mentioned to another individual a couple of days before

get your facts straight, and then maybe you will have a chance too

[Edited 11/1/15 3:38am]

Scorp said:

mjscarousal said:

Thats because they weren't real fans. One of my fav rare pics

[Edited 10/29/15 18:42pm]

before you were even born and even knew who Michael Jackson was, I had already been there and done that

before you were even born, the real version of Michaelmania had already taken place and went down in the history books

before you were even born, the Jackson 5 Christmas album had already became a classic 16 years prior at the least

before you were even born, they was showing the Wiz annuallly on local TV (before cable became what it is today)

before you were even born, Off The Wall was recognized and called the best, the quientessential r&b/soul album of all time

before you were born, Motown 25 went from a tribute to its owner to a celebratory moment for the ages where education took a backseat the very next day after it aired as principals and school teachers alike did not teach class just to talk about what we had witnessed

before you were even born, the greatest video of all time hadn't premiered, which led to a VHS release of the making of the greatest video of all time

before you were even born, school kids all across the land were standing in line practically hoping that our music teachers would allow us to sing Michael's part singing We Are The World, a song that went down in history where every single radio station across the country played the song simultaneously on the airwaves

all of this is just the tip of the iceberg

you don't even want to go there, not even close

Get the facts right and then u may have a chance

[Edited 10/29/15 21:40pm]

Did I hit a nerve? You keep insisting your age gives you some type of superiority to being a fan but none of that matters if you are insisting that MJ sabatage his brothers careers and hated his race. You bash MJ in almost every thread and uphold his family as saints. None of the above really matters at this point when you have made it clear you are not a fan of the man.

DonRants said:

QueenofPurplePalace said:

mjscarousal said: Michael's edges look tooo damn good. That's that Dr. Miracles

Queen, what do you mean by "his edges"? I have heard people say that and I never quite knew what it meant. Frankly I thought mjscarousal was just lusting after his man-crotch.LOL.

[Edited 10/30/15 18:54pm]

There is a lot of other things besides that area to admire about the photo but yes MJ's edges were on fleek

QueenofPurplePalace said:

whatsgoingon said:

Have to agree with this. The best parts of Michael's career had already taken place before 1987. Many of Michael's current hard-core fans are from the Bad era onwards, but from Bad onwards it was a downwards spiral, unfortunately.

I respectfully disagree, I actually enjoyed his music more as he got older and he wasn't scared to experiment with different sounds he didn't have the fear or well....rather less of the fear of being "marketable ". Probably why his 1995 album HIStory to me was what I needed fromhim. He became human on that album well to ME. But I respect your opinion though

I agree. I never understand how people insist Michael tried to chase hits with each of his albums. His HIStory album is his LEAST pop oriented album to date and his most experimental.

Scorp said:

mjscarousal said:

Scorp said:

before you were even born and even knew who Michael Jackson was, I had already been there and done that

before you were even born, the real version of Michaelmania had already taken place and went down in the history books

before you were even born, the Jackson 5 Christmas album had already became a classic 16 years prior at the least

before you were even born, they was showing the Wiz annuallly on local TV (before cable became what it is today)

before you were even born, Off The Wall was recognized and called the best, the quientessential r&b/soul album of all time

before you were born, Motown 25 went from a tribute to its owner to a celebratory moment for the ages where education took a backseat the very next day after it aired as principals and school teachers alike did not teach class just to talk about what we had witnessed

before you were even born, the greatest video of all time hadn't premiered, which led to a VHS release of the making of the greatest video of all time

before you were even born, school kids all across the land were standing in line practically hoping that our music teachers would allow us to sing Michael's part singing We Are The World, a song that went down in history where every single radio station across the country played the song simultaneously on the airwaves

all of this is just the tip of the iceberg

you don't even want to go there, not even close

Get the facts right and then u may have a chance

[Edited 10/29/15 21:40pm]

Did I hit a nerve? You keep insisting your age gives you some type of superiority to being a fan but none of that matters if you are insisting that MJ sabatage his brothers careers and hated his race. You bash MJ in almost every thread and uphold his family as saints. None of the above really matters at this point when you have made it clear you are not a fan of the man.

you hit a nerve? when, where, how?

and for the record, I have never said that the Jackson Family were saints, for there is not perfect family existing on this earth.......

the problem ain't about the family being supposedly being portrayed as saints, the real problem is that a great number of fans are portraying MJ as a deity, a god, when in fact he was a human being who was led estray in the worst way after reaching the pinnacle of his career

the problem is fans and the public alike have been conditioned to castigate this family to no end for the past quarter century because they feel they have the right to do it and are entitled to it where if the shoe was on the other foot and it was their family being subjected to the vile hatred, they would fold like a tent and would be on prozacs

as far as the other stuff, I'm already once step ahead, always see what u trying to do

if fans wasn't so eager and pushed this man to try and do a series of concerts he was illprepared to do after not performing a concert in 12 years, he would still be present today, wanting him to perform to not only feed into their false sense of entitlement but to stick it to the media by proving that he was still the "king of pop".

you can't tell me anything about what constitutes being a fan

there is a major difference between being a fan of someone's talent and a fanatic of the image being projected.......you can be a fan of someone and still disagree w/choices he or she are making which is having a negative impact on their lives rather than constantly seeking the entertainment value at all cost when there is no legit reason to keep seeking it, especially when a human being's humanity is being shredded in front of the world when the world who only sought the entertainment value to fulfill their false sense of entitlement could care less about it, because that's exactly what happened, and when that false sense of entitlement could no longer be met, then it became pertinent to find a scapegoat to pin the situation on

[Edited 11/1/15 17:16pm]

Free2BMe said:

Scorp said:

for like the 1,000th time you are wrong again,

no, for the 2,000th time you are wrong again

this is what happens when a person jumps to conclusions when they dont' like what's being said

before the internet even existed, back in 1991, 1992, and 1993

when Dangerous was released in November of 1991, I was just as eager to buy it as I was the day Bad was released

and during Dangerous run, and after, I always said it should have received more critical claim than it did and that it was an excellent album throughout, and during the time the album was out, I never compared it to Off The Wall or Thriller and that's how I approached all of his albums, basing them off of its own merit

AND to this day, as of 2015, Will You Be There remains my favorite MJ song since the 90s, and always viewed that song as one of the greatest recordings he ever gave.........

still have the original CD of Dangerous to this day w/the broken CD case and all as a keepsake

AND always said his performance of Heal The World at the 1993 Super Bowl in Pasadena, California was one of the most touching moments of his career

when History was released in June of 2015, I got that album too the week of release, as I was anticipating it good to a year in advance when word came out in 1994 that the album was being worked on for initially, the album was supposed to feature all new music then MJ scrapped that idea to go w/the one CD featuring all this top charting classics and the second CD featuring new songs........

and always said Earth Song should have been released as a single here in North America, that it was poignant, called for universal action to confront the activities that were harming the planet, always said the song Little Susie showcased his vocal ability in the most unique way, always said the single Money should have been released as a single to for that was one of the best songs on the album, that I loved the inspiration of the title track History and how much I enjoyed it, in the same vein that I did the song Keep The Faith from Dangerous, that Tabloid Junkie was power packed and that the hook and the chorus were A-1.....and I know the facts never picked up on this and haven't to this day, in the album booklet, MJ featured that famous picture of him standing on his toes during the Triumph Tour sporting the original glittered socks, hoping that image would endear the audience he knew he had lost some 8 years prior would be moved to buy the album.

same thing goes for the album Invincible, as I bought that the day of release back in October of 2001, as I was anticipating that album almost TWO years in advance as Rodney Jerkins gave an interview with Vibe Magazine back in 1999 stating he was producing it, w/he and MJ spending 18 hours a day in the studio trying to record it, always said the single Break of Dawn was one of the top 10 greatest recordings of his entire career as that song was perfect from beginnign to end, Break of Dawn would have been a #1 record if it had been released as a single, and that Heaven Can Wait was a beautiful song as well, and that could have been released as a single, and Whatever happens complimented the current phase of his career in a very appropriate way, and despite of what he was accused of 8 years prior, I really liked the song The Lost Children as well, I loved the song Cry as well, for that was the last song he recorded that called on the universal message of togetherness

the problem is what you is what you think about my thoughts w/out you actually thinking

the fact that a person would like an artist's music for "being in your face" to the media is what pushed him to the brink, because that's a battle nobody is going to win, one that never needed to be in the first place, for he sure didn't have to be "in your face" to the media during the beginning stage of his adult solo career for his musical message stood out in the most definitive way where he didnt' NEED to war w/the media, for the media, and the public, and the world embraced that message tenfold

Michael Jackson never needed to go that route w/the media, but as that battle sprung and progressed, the media got the upper hand, and once they did, it was TOAST, and that battle actually detracted from the message he intended to convey when this all started, and that's why songs like Will You Be There and Earth Song and Cry did not receive the long lasting stature than songs like Can You Feel It did, for the message had been completely undermined by the time the mid 90s hit

I always said that History should acknowledge that MJ made great and accomplished music post Thriller but the problem is the false image he would come to project starting in 1987 undermines that fact and that's why his current following have to always mention that to be the case.

as far as being rawer, nothing MJ did was more raw than the way he performed during that Triumph Tour of 1981, he was unleashing dance moves on teh fly, it was so raw, people wasn't even trying to emulate the dance moves, this was the period of his career that was referred to as "The Magic of Michael Jackson" which is the reason J. Randy Taraborelli named his unofficially official autobiographical book on MJ "The Magic and the Madness" because all you had in teh beginning WAS The Magic

and if a poll was taken by ALL of Michael Jackson's fans from 1969-2015, and asked them what as his greatest love song, slow jam, more than likely, the song that would be chosen as the top one would be LADY IN MY LIFE

as I mentioned to another individual a couple of days before

get your facts straight, and then maybe you will have a chance too

[Edited 11/1/15 3:38am]

Nothing that you have said changes your true intention, to tear down Michael and build up every other Jackson. BTW, for all of your supposed knowledge or " facts", you can't seem to get anything right. I would love to have a debate or discussion with you face-to-face, because you really don't know what you are talking about. YOUR version of the "facts" sound like those of detractors who twist and manipulate the truth. Give it up Scorp because you are not convincing any fan who is truly AWARE. I guess you can try and fool new fans; but, that won't work on people like me and others who don't fall for your "okey dokey" crap.

Maybe you two could have a live debate on YouTube.

Scorp said:

mjscarousal said:

Did I hit a nerve? You keep insisting your age gives you some type of superiority to being a fan but none of that matters if you are insisting that MJ sabatage his brothers careers and hated his race. You bash MJ in almost every thread and uphold his family as saints. None of the above really matters at this point when you have made it clear you are not a fan of the man.

you hit a nerve? when, where, how?

and for the record, I have never said that the Jackson Family were saints, for there is not perfect family existing on this earth.......

the problem ain't about the family being supposedly being portrayed as saints, the real problem is that a great number of fans are portraying MJ as a deity, a god, when in fact he was a human being who was led estray in the worst way after reaching the pinnacle of his career

the problem is fans and the public alike have been conditioned to castigate this family to no end for the past quarter century because they feel they have the right to do it and are entitled to it where if the shoe was on the other foot and it was their family being subjected to the vile hatred, they would fold like a tent and would be on prozacs

as far as the other stuff, I'm already once step ahead, always see what u trying to do

if fans wasn't so eager and pushed this man to try and do a series of concerts he was illprepared to do after not performing a concert in 12 years, he would still be present today, wanting him to perform to not only feed into their false sense of entitlement but to stick it to the media by proving that he was still the "king of pop".

you can't tell me anything about what constitutes being a fan

there is a major difference between being a fan of someone's talent and a fanatic of the image being projected.......you can be a fan of someone and still disagree w/choices he or she are making which is having a negative impact on their lives rather than constantly seeking the entertainment value at all cost when there is no legit reason to keep seeking it, especially when a human being's humanity is being shredded in front of the world when the world who only sought the entertainment value to fulfill their false sense of entitlement could care less about it, because that's exactly what happened, and when that false sense of entitlement could no longer be met, then it became pertinent to find a scapegoat to pin the situation on

[Edited 11/1/15 17:16pm]

I must have hit a nerve because you keep ranting, "Before you were born" "Before you born" "Before you born" etc etc as if that proves anything Also, if you weren't bothered you would not have addressed me in the first place because I never mentioned your name or addressed you. So yes I know I definitly hit a nerve!

Free2BMe said:

Scorp said:

for like the 1,000th time you are wrong again,

no, for the 2,000th time you are wrong again

this is what happens when a person jumps to conclusions when they dont' like what's being said

before the internet even existed, back in 1991, 1992, and 1993

when Dangerous was released in November of 1991, I was just as eager to buy it as I was the day Bad was released

and during Dangerous run, and after, I always said it should have received more critical claim than it did and that it was an excellent album throughout, and during the time the album was out, I never compared it to Off The Wall or Thriller and that's how I approached all of his albums, basing them off of its own merit

AND to this day, as of 2015, Will You Be There remains my favorite MJ song since the 90s, and always viewed that song as one of the greatest recordings he ever gave.........

still have the original CD of Dangerous to this day w/the broken CD case and all as a keepsake

AND always said his performance of Heal The World at the 1993 Super Bowl in Pasadena, California was one of the most touching moments of his career

when History was released in June of 2015, I got that album too the week of release, as I was anticipating it good to a year in advance when word came out in 1994 that the album was being worked on for initially, the album was supposed to feature all new music then MJ scrapped that idea to go w/the one CD featuring all this top charting classics and the second CD featuring new songs........

and always said Earth Song should have been released as a single here in North America, that it was poignant, called for universal action to confront the activities that were harming the planet, always said the song Little Susie showcased his vocal ability in the most unique way, always said the single Money should have been released as a single to for that was one of the best songs on the album, that I loved the inspiration of the title track History and how much I enjoyed it, in the same vein that I did the song Keep The Faith from Dangerous, that Tabloid Junkie was power packed and that the hook and the chorus were A-1.....and I know the facts never picked up on this and haven't to this day, in the album booklet, MJ featured that famous picture of him standing on his toes during the Triumph Tour sporting the original glittered socks, hoping that image would endear the audience he knew he had lost some 8 years prior would be moved to buy the album.

same thing goes for the album Invincible, as I bought that the day of release back in October of 2001, as I was anticipating that album almost TWO years in advance as Rodney Jerkins gave an interview with Vibe Magazine back in 1999 stating he was producing it, w/he and MJ spending 18 hours a day in the studio trying to record it, always said the single Break of Dawn was one of the top 10 greatest recordings of his entire career as that song was perfect from beginnign to end, Break of Dawn would have been a #1 record if it had been released as a single, and that Heaven Can Wait was a beautiful song as well, and that could have been released as a single, and Whatever happens complimented the current phase of his career in a very appropriate way, and despite of what he was accused of 8 years prior, I really liked the song The Lost Children as well, I loved the song Cry as well, for that was the last song he recorded that called on the universal message of togetherness

the problem is what you is what you think about my thoughts w/out you actually thinking

the fact that a person would like an artist's music for "being in your face" to the media is what pushed him to the brink, because that's a battle nobody is going to win, one that never needed to be in the first place, for he sure didn't have to be "in your face" to the media during the beginning stage of his adult solo career for his musical message stood out in the most definitive way where he didnt' NEED to war w/the media, for the media, and the public, and the world embraced that message tenfold

Michael Jackson never needed to go that route w/the media, but as that battle sprung and progressed, the media got the upper hand, and once they did, it was TOAST, and that battle actually detracted from the message he intended to convey when this all started, and that's why songs like Will You Be There and Earth Song and Cry did not receive the long lasting stature than songs like Can You Feel It did, for the message had been completely undermined by the time the mid 90s hit

I always said that History should acknowledge that MJ made great and accomplished music post Thriller but the problem is the false image he would come to project starting in 1987 undermines that fact and that's why his current following have to always mention that to be the case.

as far as being rawer, nothing MJ did was more raw than the way he performed during that Triumph Tour of 1981, he was unleashing dance moves on teh fly, it was so raw, people wasn't even trying to emulate the dance moves, this was the period of his career that was referred to as "The Magic of Michael Jackson" which is the reason J. Randy Taraborelli named his unofficially official autobiographical book on MJ "The Magic and the Madness" because all you had in teh beginning WAS The Magic

and if a poll was taken by ALL of Michael Jackson's fans from 1969-2015, and asked them what as his greatest love song, slow jam, more than likely, the song that would be chosen as the top one would be LADY IN MY LIFE

as I mentioned to another individual a couple of days before

get your facts straight, and then maybe you will have a chance too

[Edited 11/1/15 3:38am]

Nothing that you have said changes your true intention, to tear down Michael and build up every other Jackson. BTW, for all of your supposed knowledge or " facts", you can't seem to get anything right. I would love to have a debate or discussion with you face-to-face, because you really don't know what you are talking about. YOUR version of the "facts" sound like those of detractors who twist and manipulate the truth. Give it up Scorp because you are not convincing any fan who is truly AWARE. I guess you can try and fool new fans; but, that won't work on people like me and others who don't fall for your "okey dokey" crap.

is that really what you want to do.......you wanna debate?

do you honestly want to do this?

I'll tell you what.....I'll give you a 28 year head start, I'll even let you say everything you want without any interruption to say ....I wouldn't say one single word...

I'll even let you pick the time, the place, I'll be willing to venture into foreign territory

you could even decide the format arrangement

I would even let the moderator provide you w/all of the advantages, you can have all the support systems you so choose

u would be given every single advantage known to man, all the perks,

u can have all the notes you want, whatever books or articles you want to bring, whatever it is you want to refer to, you can have it, no restrictions

u can have it all, however you want to do it, u can even refer to me as a hater starting out, you can even have your own cheering section

I'm giving you the silver platter

I would be willing to go into the belly of the whale

only thing is, when its my turn to speak, then it will be my turn to speak

Why are yall trying to derail another thread?

Allow people who are fans of MJ to enjoy the thread. Enough already, you have already said your opinions a trillion times.

mjscarousal said:

Why are yall trying to derail another thread?

Allow people who are fans of MJ to enjoy the thread. Enough already, you have already said your opinions a trillion times.

I was cool on it til you tried to define what being a real fan is

Scorp said:

mjscarousal said:

Why are yall trying to derail another thread?

Allow people who are fans of MJ to enjoy the thread. Enough already, you have already said your opinions a trillion times.

I was cool on it til you tried to define what being a real fan is

Where did I define what a real fan is?

Can you please quote the definition I gave?

Please quote me? All I said was the ones derailing the previous thread were not real fans and you obviously took offense to that. If you felt it didn't apply to you, why did you respond? Thanks for proving my point...

You don't know the duetjams.

This is Michael Jackson at the 1988 Grammy Awards.

While he won nothing in the 4 categories he was nominated in, he did provide a performance of Man in the Mirror for the ages that brought down the house.

OfftheWall said:

You don't know the duetjams.

Beautiful duets! Michael's voice is heavenly!

Scorp said:

mjscarousal said:

Free2BMe said:

Scorp said:

is that really what you want to do.......you wanna debate?

do you honestly want to do this?

I'll tell you what.....I'll give you a 28 year head start, I'll even let you say everything you want without any interruption to say ....I wouldn't say one single word...

I'll even let you pick the time, the place, I'll be willing to venture into foreign territory

you could even decide the format arrangement

I would even let the moderator provide you w/all of the advantages, you can have all the support systems you so choose

u would be given every single advantage known to man, all the perks,

u can have all the notes you want, whatever books or articles you want to bring, whatever it is you want to refer to, you can have it, no restrictions

u can have it all, however you want to do it, u can even refer to me as a hater starting out, you can even have your own cheering section

I'm giving you the silver platter

I would be willing to go into the belly of the whale

only thing is, when its my turn to speak, then it will be my turn to speak

Lol, you would lose Big Time. I am 1000% sure of that. Debating you would be akin to debating a child. End of story.

all you have to do is book the date and time and location

just let me know when you want to do this and I'll be ready on the spot

let's do this and we'll see who's who

you the one who brought this up, so since you brought it up, schedule all the parameters

aint no use of wasting no time

see, I know what you gone bring up but you sure dont' know what I'm gone bring up

that's why I'll let you have the platform for as long as you like

you couldn't ask for a better deal

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What exactly will you guys be debating?

The duet with Minnie should definitely have been a hit. Was it ever released as a single?.

Scorp said:

Free2BMe said:

Scorp said: Lol, you would lose Big Time. I am 1000% sure of that. Debating you would be akin to debating a child. End of story.

all you have to do is book the date and time and location

just let me know when you want to do this and I'll be ready on the spot

let's do this and we'll see who's who

you the one who brought this up, so since you brought it up, schedule all the parameters

aint no use of wasting no time

see, I know what you gone bring up but you sure dont' know what I'm gone bring up

that's why I'll let you have the platform for as long as you like

you couldn't ask for a better deal

[Edited 11/2/15 2:57am]

If you both have skype, setting up a live podcast at YouTube to discuss Michael Jackson would be easy.

Minnie Ripperton is the only other singer who can hit notes as high as Mariah Carey. Why didn't duet make the the charts?

thetimefan said:

The duet with Minnie should definitely have been a hit. Was it ever released as a single?.

It really should have been. It wasn't a 'real' duet however, it was for the Minnie Tribute album produced by Quincy Jones.

Here's Minnie, La Toya & Michael.

OMG Minnie and Micky.

Thanks for the duets OfftheWall. Never heard those before.