QueenofPurplePalace said:

Who did it better Prince or Michael lmao

Beautifulstarr123 said:

QueenofPurplePalace said:

Who did it better Prince or Michael lmao [img:$uid]http://www.epa.eu/thumb.php/52433280.jpg?eJwljLEOwjAMRP_l5gzGSdvEayckChJBAiaUkKgbA9Cp6r9jBXl4unc6rxghgMF4g-wU94ZJZcfOWvak5WEPYcVRdX3Nj-WT1MYmoz5wiqkN4wXyfS_V4PqvzxBPZHDSCFtLSXrkcmDq-jDkxL5Q7vNz8DZg-wFCJyKU%20[/img:$uid] [img:$uid]http://eil.com/images/main/Prince+Lovesexy+-+Stickered+Sleeve+3421.jpg%20[/img:$uid]

They look like two pretty bitches, trying to outdo each other. Overkill

Omg!

Spike Lee Directed a New Michael Jackson Documentary Which Will Premiere at Sundance Next Month

http://blogs.indiewire.co...h-20151208

QueenofPurplePalace said:

SLAYTOYA Jackson did it best. Now bow down to Legendtoya

NaughtyKitty said:

Beautifulstarr123 said

QueenofPurplePalace said: They look like two pretty bitches, trying to outdo each other. Overkill

+1

Although it is clear Prince is the original here and MJ is the copycat!

I know the Prince vs Michael Jackson feud still stands to this very day, but right now, I'd like to put in my 2 cents on this rivalry. And you guys can agree or disagree with some of what I'm about to say on this.
I'll start first with Michael, when he was younger and singing with his brothers (The Jackson 5/Jacksons) he was gifted in more ways than one, but I feel by the time he got to Thriller, he set the bar way too high for himself. Sure it was his biggest album ever, but I felt like every album he's done afterwards was an attempt to re-create the same magic he did with Thriller. Michael is a great singer, dancer, all-around entertainer, but as far as having is own unique sound to call his own, I don't think he had that at all, when it came to music. He was chasing sounds, musically, always following the trends on that time.

Now Prince on the other hand, always had a unique sound he could call his own and was never a follower. He had a lot of influences (in musicianship), even getting to work with some of those people who inspired his sound. After Purple Rain (the album and movie) broke, it not only was it a phenomenal smash, it also gave Prince a chance to expand his sound even more than just what he's done with Vanity 6/Apollonia 6 and the Time, he gave other acts (with or without his help) a chance to shine in the spotlight and be heard on wide, national basis, even with acts having only one big hit to their name, the Minneapolis Sound would definitely leave its mark and would still have a cult following to this very day. And that's my 2 cents on the Prince vs MJ feud.

JabarR74 said:

[In response to JabarR74's now locked thread on the main page]

I believe Thriller has sold more copies than Prince has in his entire career's output thus far. It's kind of sad that these cats never worked together... but honestly, I can't imagine what that would have sounded like as they have very distinct styles. It probably would have been something to make even 'Wierd Al' Yankovic cringe.

I don't think MJ was copying anyone when he made Off The Wall and most certainly not Thriller. He changed the game but then got consumed by it. It's really alarming to watch MJ interviews during the recording of Thriller and post all of its accolades (pre Bad). If that is the price of fame then keep it - and then came the allegations. It's hard to know what MJ could have done if he hadn't been so pressed.

Invincible was undoubtedly phoned-in but I think Bad & Dangerous have their place. And what's wrong with involving fresh, young producers in wanting to appeal to a younger audience? Let's call it a tie - MJ's lagacy is clear in that even six years after his death, you would still write that they are feuding.

I never bought into the whole Prince vs MJ thing. I like Prince and I like Michael Jackson. They're completely different artists. I've seen both of them in concert several times each, and enjoyed each and every one of their shows!

I still listen to them both, to this day. I enjoy their music and do not consider them to be "vs" each other.

[Edited 12/10/15 14:46pm]

LovesexyIsThe1 said:

I never bought into the whole Prince vs MJ thing. I like Prince and I like Michael Jackson. They're completely different artists. I've seen both of them in concert several times each, and enjoyed each and every one of their shows!

I still listen to them both, to this day. I enjoy their music and do not consider them to be "vs" each other.

[Edited 12/10/15 14:46pm]

I pretty much agree. I do think that Michael has had and will have an overall greater impact on the music industry and the world in general. At his peak he was just pure magic that crossed every barrier: woman, man, black, white, brown, red, yellow, christian, muslum, Jew, r&b, pop, rock, funk, adult contemporary...everybody at one time liked MJ. How else can one explain that Thriller has sold twice as many copies (approx 68 million) worldwide and no album comes close?

The closest artist to that kind of across the board appeal has to be Adele (I'm not a fan).

[Edited 12/10/15 15:21pm]

Wow these videos are great! Thanks for posting bboy87

bboy87 said:

Wait...why does the TWYMMF chick look like Latoya?

bboy87 said:

Look who's back! lol

JabarR74 said:

I know the Prince vs Michael Jackson feud still stands to this very day, but right now, I'd like to put in my 2 cents on this rivalry. And you guys can agree or disagree with some of what I'm about to say on this.
I'll start first with Michael, when he was younger and singing with his brothers (The Jackson 5/Jacksons) he was gifted in more ways than one, but I feel by the time he got to Thriller, he set the bar way too high for himself. Sure it was his biggest album ever, but I felt like every album he's done afterwards was an attempt to re-create the same magic he did with Thriller. Michael is a great singer, dancer, all-around entertainer, but as far as having is own unique sound to call his own, I don't think he had that at all, when it came to music. He was chasing sounds, musically, always following the trends on that time.

Now Prince on the other hand, always had a unique sound he could call his own and was never a follower. He had a lot of influences (in musicianship), even getting to work with some of those people who inspired his sound. After Purple Rain (the album and movie) broke, it not only was it a phenomenal smash, it also gave Prince a chance to expand his sound even more than just what he's done with Vanity 6/Apollonia 6 and the Time, he gave other acts (with or without his help) a chance to shine in the spotlight and be heard on wide, national basis, even with acts having only one big hit to their name, the Minneapolis Sound would definitely leave its mark and would still have a cult following to this very day. And that's my 2 cents on the Prince vs MJ feud.

I couldn't agree with you more. After Thriller, MJ was always chasing or looking to top it. Bad is a weak imitation of Thriller, right down to the first single being a duet, a song addressing street gangs, the hottest guitarist of the moment (Stevie Stevens). Bad could have been much more if Jackson just trusted his instinct like he did with OTW and Thriller.

Bad and every Jackson album after were also over-produced. MJ wanted every song to be flawless with no room for much experimentation.

MJ went from trend-setter to trend follower. Bad is like a time capsule right out of the late 1980s. After that, he chased after the next sound with his New Jack Swing album Dangerous.

HISTory was his best album post-Thriller, especially They Don't Care About Us which was a masterpiece.

Prince wasn't interested in topping PR which is why he created more innovative albums. Once Jackson's only goal was beating sales of Thriller he compromised his artistic creativity along with his humanity, undergoing a series of surgeries that made him unrecognizable to his original fan base.

Prince also wrote massive hits for other acts like the Bangles, Sinead O' Connor and Sheena Easton. MJ's only big non-MJ hit was We Are The World and Lionel Richie deserved part of the credit for that song.

But while Prince is more talented as a musician, Jackson had the X-Factor and charisma that Prince couldn't come close to. In many ways, Thriller was a mixed blessing for MJ and it might have been better for his mental health and his solo career if he reached his peak later in his life.

bboy87 said:

Rehearsing the interview

bboy87 said:

Thanks, good to see you back!

For those of you who keep saying MJ was trying to imitate Thriller with Dangerous, you really ought to get your ears checked and also read Dangerous (33 1/3) by Susan Fast.

http://www.amazon.com/Michael-Jacksons-Dangerous-Susan-Fast/dp/1623566312/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1450062623&sr=8-1&keywords=Dangerous+Susan+Fast

Now I believe he was trying with Bad. But he certainly left those formulas behind on Dangerous and History.

MichaelJackson5 said:

JabarR74 said:

I know the Prince vs Michael Jackson feud still stands to this very day, but right now, I'd like to put in my 2 cents on this rivalry. And you guys can agree or disagree with some of what I'm about to say on this.
I'll start first with Michael, when he was younger and singing with his brothers (The Jackson 5/Jacksons) he was gifted in more ways than one, but I feel by the time he got to Thriller, he set the bar way too high for himself. Sure it was his biggest album ever, but I felt like every album he's done afterwards was an attempt to re-create the same magic he did with Thriller. Michael is a great singer, dancer, all-around entertainer, but as far as having is own unique sound to call his own, I don't think he had that at all, when it came to music. He was chasing sounds, musically, always following the trends on that time.

Now Prince on the other hand, always had a unique sound he could call his own and was never a follower. He had a lot of influences (in musicianship), even getting to work with some of those people who inspired his sound. After Purple Rain (the album and movie) broke, it not only was it a phenomenal smash, it also gave Prince a chance to expand his sound even more than just what he's done with Vanity 6/Apollonia 6 and the Time, he gave other acts (with or without his help) a chance to shine in the spotlight and be heard on wide, national basis, even with acts having only one big hit to their name, the Minneapolis Sound would definitely leave its mark and would still have a cult following to this very day. And that's my 2 cents on the Prince vs MJ feud.

I couldn't agree with you more. After Thriller, MJ was always chasing or looking to top it. Bad is a weak imitation of Thriller, right down to the first single being a duet, a song addressing street gangs, the hottest guitarist of the moment (Stevie Stevens). Bad could have been much more if Jackson just trusted his instinct like he did with OTW and Thriller.

Bad and every Jackson album after were also over-produced. MJ wanted every song to be flawless with no room for much experimentation.

MJ went from trend-setter to trend follower. Bad is like a time capsule right out of the late 1980s. After that, he chased after the next sound with his New Jack Swing album Dangerous.

HISTory was his best album post-Thriller, especially They Don't Care About Us which was a masterpiece.

Prince wasn't interested in topping PR which is why he created more innovative albums. Once Jackson's only goal was beating sales of Thriller he compromised his artistic creativity along with his humanity, undergoing a series of surgeries that made him unrecognizable to his original fan base.

Prince also wrote massive hits for other acts like the Bangles, Sinead O' Connor and Sheena Easton. MJ's only big non-MJ hit was We Are The World and Lionel Richie deserved part of the credit for that song.

But while Prince is more talented as a musician, Jackson had the X-Factor and charisma that Prince couldn't come close to. In many ways, Thriller was a mixed blessing for MJ and it might have been better for his mental health and his solo career if he reached his peak later in his life.

LOL. Funny you say that about Prince, he wants to be on top, he is very competitive with his music... Just look at all his work post 1992. He's tried all styles of contemporary urban music on his albums. He even rapped lol. Listen to His album right now! Working with Rita Ora? lol..

Anyways, back to your comments on MJ VS Prince... .So you say that Bad is a weak imitation of Thriller, which I totally disagree with, Thriller is an early 80s record, with disco/funk - sleak r&b production to it, while Bad is a more dance/pop oriented record with rock elements. Also, today's artists are more influenced by Bad than Thriller, think Kanye, The Weekend, Bruno Mars etc, and you can actually hear it with the use of instruments, production and songwriting. It is grittier, more paranoic, more personal, which would continue on his 90s music. It is sonically a darker album than Thriller and not as optimistic. Listen to songs like Pyramids by Frank Ocean, anything Kanye from 808 to MBDTF or The Weeknds mixtapes. The formula is Jackson. I'd say this is the second/third generation of Jackson influence on the music scene.

In the 90s, Dangerous is a more social-concious album, with a more late 80s/early 90s contemporary urban sound (hiphop/New Jack Swing/contemporary r&b) and some classical influences/gospel. Prince was doing similiar things in the 90s, but IMO his own identiy and music got lost in the 90s. We got some of the most cringeworthy music by Prince in the 90s, while MJ actually created some of his finest moments musically and challenged himself . They don't care about us, stranger in moscow, Morphin, who is it, earth song etc. Songs that are being used today in marches all around the world. So in that sense, it doesn't matter if MJ was creating hits for other artists.

I'd just like to add that Michael had different peaks in his career. Had he released the planned 3 disc set he intended with Bad, I wonder what would have been the convo, becausen now we only have Thriller and Bad. Although, MJ's creativity had many phases, it started with Destiny 78 - Off The Wall 79 - Triumph 80 - Thriller 82. He also produced some songs for other artists during this time, Jennifer Holiday, Diana Ross, Latoya, (Donna Summer but it never worked out)... Lets remember, that before he became the KOP with Thriller, he had intended on producing work like Berry Gordy jr. Go back and read articles from the era. (I hope that Spike Lee's documentary actually explores this part of his career).

Second phase 83-85. (Most of the songs from Bad were written between this period). He intended to release an album by 85, but Thriller was still selling.

88-90, early stage for many of his songs on his 90s albums. Earth song, Dangerous etc. Decade album / Dangerous era.

92-94.

I love both Prince & MJ, but this vs thing is so old. Let it go already. MJ is dead.

Good post Gold Dolphin. I just have to add, this "MJ did not have musicianship" or less musicianship than Prince is wrong. MJ spent years of his childhood in the Studio performing and observing other greats like Stevie Wonder, Marven Gaye, even on tour getting songwriting and music tips from Lionel Ritchie and the Commodores. There are pictures of a young MJ paying close attention as Stevie Wonder produced his masterpieces such as Innervisions, Songs in the Key of Life, etc. So he got a TOTAL music education. Much better than most.

People seem to forget MJ learned from everyone around him, always. It is no accident he became as successful as he did, some of what he accomplished was phenonmenal, but he was also tremendously well prepared.

Beautifulstarr123 said:

QueenofPurplePalace said:

SLAYTOYA Jackson did it best. Now bow down to Legendtoya [img:$uid]http://www.ealuxe.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Most-Famous-Celebrities-on-Playboy-Cover-La-Toya-Jackson-cenzured-2.jpg%20[/img:$uid]

She was beautiful, back in the day. I think Prince once had a big crush on her.

Prince wasn't the only one. I think most straight men, myself included, had a crush on Janet or Latoya or both back in the day.

DonRants said:

Beautifulstarr123 said:

QueenofPurplePalace said: She was beautiful, back in the day. I think Prince once had a big crush on her.

Prince wasn't the only one. I think most straight men, myself included, had a crush on Janet or Latoya or both back in the day.

ummmmm Janet, yes.

homesquid said:

DonRants said:

Prince wasn't the only one. I think most straight men, myself included, had a crush on Janet or Latoya or both back in the day.

ummmmm Janet, yes.

Very true. Good call.By the time Latoya was doing the crazy stuff such as Playboy, it was kinda creepy especially her Spengali husband.

Janet on the other had our attention from "Different Strokes" up to around Velvet Rope.