Jermaine,

Still looks like Clutch Cargo....

MotownSubdivision said:

It's not like the brothers are exactly wrong about racism playing a part in them never receiving a Grammy but even if Tito and Jermaine are referring to how things were in the 70s, I'm not buying it. ...not when Stevie won AoTY for 3 consecutive releases. This also adds into what Soul was saying: there was too much competition. The Jackson 5 is one of the top acts of the 70s but they had rock hard competition in the form of various other legendary artists across various genres (many of which haven't won a Grammy themselves). Jermaine and Tito are just playing the race card here. Jermaine in particular could've had a better career than he did; he had/ has more than enough talent to be closer to Janet on the Jackson totem pole instead of the distant third he's considered to be.

Agree

motown was setting the world on fire and the only artist that was picking up grammys from yhis label was stevie wonder???? the grammys is a joke of a institution for what they did to the jackson 5. i don't want to hear that shit about competion. there was no competion for the jackson 5.

MotownSubdivision said:

TD3 said:

Jermaine,

Still looks like Clutch Cargo....

Honestly I'm surprised they never won a Grammy. If it weren't par for the course I'd be shocked.

Too cool for the Grammys.

Now them complaining about it in 2015 is par for the course as well.

It's The Jacksons people! We have to expect quirkiness from them by now.

jackson35 said:

motown was setting the world on fire and the only artist that was picking up grammys from yhis label was stevie wonder???? the grammys is a joke of a institution for what they did to the jackson 5. i don't want to hear that shit about competion. there was no competition for the jackson 5.

I'm a huge fan of the Jackson 5 but in the 70s,the competition was fierce!! There was so much amazing music back then.Remember,the J5 were sharing chart space with a ton of other great vocal groups: The Delfonics,The Temptations (who were still going strong),The Stylistics,The O'Jays,The Spinners,etc.Imagine being a Grammy voter during that time! lol

The Jacksons should just be happy that they were really successful during that period.They were able to enjoy hit singles at a time when there were so many great artists and groups to compete with.

Graycap23 said:

If the J5 never existed as a group.................we would have NEVER heard of Jermaine. No way he would have made it as a solo act in the record business.

I think Jermaine is talented and he's had some excellent singles.The problem is,in the 90s he got lazy and sorta gave up on his career.He was more concerned with making babies that he couldn't afford to take care of.Artists like Howard Hewitt,Jeffrey Osborne and Stephanie Mills are forever touring,making that cash to pay the bills.Jermaine should have been doing the same.

jermaine and the rest of the brothers would be able to aford to take care of their familys if the king of pop would of handle the j five royalties better. when he died, universal owed the jacksons over 60 million dollars in back royalties. plus the jackson 5 was bigger then half the competion on the charts. they were selling out arenas, had a cartoon, a tv show, their own fanzine, dolls. there is no reason that they should not have a grammy.

SoulAlive said:

jackson35 said:

fuck the carpenters,

The Carpenters were great.Like I said before,the competition was so fierce back then,and not everyone was gonna win a Grammy.Marvin Gaye didn't win his first Grammy until 1983!

Wow, some people on this site are so clueless. The Carpenters were extremely talented and deserved every award they ever won. Jackson35 needs to learn more about real music.

SoulAlive said:

Graycap23 said:

If the J5 never existed as a group.................we would have NEVER heard of Jermaine. No way he would have made it as a solo act in the record business.

I think Jermaine is talented and he's had some excellent singles.The problem is,in the 90s he got lazy and sorta gave up on his career.He was more concerned with making babies that he couldn't afford to take care of.Artists like Howard Hewitt,Jeffrey Osborne and Stephanie Mills are forever touring,making that cash to pay the bills.Jermaine should have been doing the same.

Pretty much. Jermaine didnt get sabatage. He was lazy and did not follow through with his own career. He doesn't have the same drive as MJ and Janet and that is the truth.

mjscarousal said:

SoulAlive said:

I think Jermaine is talented and he's had some excellent singles.The problem is,in the 90s he got lazy and sorta gave up on his career.He was more concerned with making babies that he couldn't afford to take care of.Artists like Howard Hewitt,Jeffrey Osborne and Stephanie Mills are forever touring,making that cash to pay the bills.Jermaine should have been doing the same.

Pretty much. Jermaine didnt get sabatage. He was lazy and did not follow through with his own career. He doesn't have the same drive as MJ and Janet and that is the truth.

Do u believe that he could have made it as a solo artist on his own? (if the J5 never existed)

jackson35 said:

Scorp said:

jackson35 said:

jermaine and the rest of the brothers would be able to aford to take care of their familys if the king of pop would of handle the j five royalties better. when he died, universal owed the jacksons over 60 million dollars in back royalties. plus the jackson 5 was bigger then half the competion on the charts. they were selling out arenas, had a cartoon, a tv show, their own fanzine, dolls. there is no reason that they should not have a grammy.

Nooooo The king of pop fans would never want to acknowledge They rather hold onto the 23 years and counting narrative that MJs family were leeches It would be too much like right to duspel the narratuve once and for all

jackson35 said:

motown was setting the world on fire and the only artist that was picking up grammys from yhis label was stevie wonder???? the grammys is a joke of a institution for what they did to the jackson 5. i don't want to hear that shit about competion. there was no competion for the jackson 5.

Is yo first name Jermaine?

Scorp said:

People ask if Jermaine could have made it as a solo but gloss over the fact he was already a solo artist from 1976-1991, some 15 years before his career was snuffed out [Edited 9/17/15 13:24pm]

I'll ask u directly.

Do u believe that Jermaine Jackson could have made it as a solo artist if the J5 band/group would have never existed?

Graycap23 said:

Scorp said:

People ask if Jermaine could have made it as a solo but gloss over the fact he was already a solo artist from 1976-1991, some 15 years before his career was snuffed out [Edited 9/17/15 13:24pm]

I'll ask u directly.

Do u believe that Jermaine Jackson could have made it as a solo artist if the J5 band/group would have never existed?

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Would any of them?

CynicKill said:

Graycap23 said:

I'll ask u directly.

Do u believe that Jermaine Jackson could have made it as a solo artist if the J5 band/group would have never existed?

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Would any of them?

I'm speaking on Jermaine.

And yes................Mj would have.

Sly and The Family got a Grammy? as far as i know, the answer is no, and they were more talented and greater than jackson 5, but of course they earned it, they deserved it. Specially for such and underrated album like Destiny and Triumph.

Graycap23 said:

CynicKill said:

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Would any of them?

I'm speaking on Jermaine.

And yes................Mj would have.

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But Michael didn't want to be a star. He wanted his childhood remember?

Had he not been pushed he never would've developed as an artist.

Graycap23 said:

mjscarousal said:

Pretty much. Jermaine didnt get sabatage. He was lazy and did not follow through with his own career. He doesn't have the same drive as MJ and Janet and that is the truth.

Do u believe that he could have made it as a solo artist on his own? (if the J5 never existed)

No, just like the rest of the Jacksons.

nah it wasnt a race thing, as said above.

it was bc the jacksons were singing 'abc, 123, you & me' and other bubblegum rnb/pop songs. lots of motown artists were taken serious, but the jacksons werent. i know their material got far more mature later on, and i am surprised they never received a win even for shake your body/heartbreak hotel/state of shock , it's not racism.

racism was mtv in the early-80s.. dumbasses imo.

[Edited 9/17/15 17:46pm]

marlon rockin that beer gut

Jermaine Jackson had a solo career for 15 years, in that span, he released 11 albums

his song Castles In the Sand has been sampled verbatim by a many of hip hop artists including Jay-Z and Scarface featuring Beanie Sigel

Jermaine's actually musical output, regarding album releases is more than anyone else in the family

[Edited 9/17/15 18:30pm]

Graycap23 said:

mjscarousal said:

Pretty much. Jermaine didnt get sabatage. He was lazy and did not follow through with his own career. He doesn't have the same drive as MJ and Janet and that is the truth.

Do u believe that he could have made it as a solo artist on his own? (if the J5 never existed)

No..................... BUT objectively Jermaine had enough talent though where he could have had some descent success if he had continued on making music and focused on his career. People need to stop pointing the finger at other people instead of placing responsibility on the Jacksons as far as why they didnt go as far as they could have. Jermaine actually had a respectable successful R&B career before he haulted it with messing around with women and getting them pregnant. He wasn't as focused and his drive was not there. I am glad the Jacksons have the drive now to want to go out and tour but people need to not sit here and blame the lack of drive someone has for their own career on someone else thats just ridiculous....

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mjscarousal said:

Graycap23 said:

Do u believe that he could have made it as a solo artist on his own? (if the J5 never existed)

No..................... BUT objectively Jermaine had enough talent though where he could have had some descent success if he had continued on making music and focused on his career. People need to stop pointing the finger at other people instead of placing responsibility on the Jacksons as far as why they didnt go as far as they could have. Jermaine actually had a respectable successful R&B career before he haulted it with messing around with women and getting them pregnant. He wasn't as focused and his drive was not there. I am glad the Jacksons have the drive now to want to go out and tour but people need to not sit here and blame the lack of drive someone has for their own career on someone else thats just ridiculous....

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messin around w/women?

like he the only artists who's ever come down the pike of music who has

the man had 11 albums in 15 years from 1976-1991......that's not focused or having drive?

CynicKill said:

Graycap23 said:

I'm speaking on Jermaine.

And yes................Mj would have.

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But Michael didn't want to be a star. He wanted his childhood remember?

Had he not been pushed he never would've developed as an artist.

But Michael was special and had god given talent (regardless of circumstances) unlike some of the other members who need additives to make their package work. Even if Michael did have that childhood that he so desperately desired that does not necessarily mean he would not have became a superstar but the fact of the matter is he definitly was born to be a star regardless.

Well my sister says that Jermaine was THE idol of the group when they first came out.

She cherished this album which she replaced after an accident with the original vinyl:

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And who doesn't like this song?

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