BlackCat1985 said:

SoulAlive said:

^^I've always said that LaToya should have became a lawyer or doctor....anything but a singer! That video is unintentionally hilarious.

A Doctor or Lawyer???? She would have made a beautiful model. Latoya was pretty back in the day.

She certainly was

but what's wrong with being a doctor or lawyer? Those are respectable (and high-paying) careers

I don't get why people who have famous people in their family,always assume that they have talent too.LaToya never should have gone anywhere near a microphone,lol.

CynicKill said:

I'll let her have the last word on the subject:

that's a classic episode! Tootie wasn't gonna let NOTHING stop her from going to that concert,LOL

SoulAlive said:

BlackCat1985 said:

SoulAlive said:

She certainly was

but what's wrong with being a doctor or lawyer? Those are respectable (and high-paying) careers

I don't get why people who have famous people in their family,always assume that they have talent too.LaToya never should have gone anywhere near a microphone,lol.

Lol! Nothing is wrong with being a Doctor or Lawyer. Everybody isn't smart enough to do those professions either.

OK,perhaps but she could have done something other than trying to be a singer.That's all I'm sayin'.

So being part of music history, isn't good enough. So being rich and never having to worry about your family being fed isn't good enough.

Michael was the superstar in that family, Janet is okay enough, carved a niche and is very verstaile, but the Jackson 5 wouldnt exist or be known without the talent and starpower of Michael and that right there is enough to know why they don't have a grammy. Without Michael, they are only 'without Michael'.

The truth remains that Michael is Michael BECAUSE of The Jackson 5.

The chicken came before the egg.

Doctors and lawyers are respectable in 2015?

What's wrong with both in 2015?

terrig said:

So being part of music history, isn't good enough. So being rich and never having to worry about your family being fed isn't good enough.

Michael was the superstar in that family, Janet is okay enough, carved a niche and is very verstaile, but the Jackson 5 wouldnt exist or be known without the talent and starpower of Michael and that right there is enough to know why they don't have a grammy. Without Michael, they are only 'without Michael'.

michael being the star power of the jackson 5 still didnt get them a grammy, he was part of the group. so janet jackson is not a superstar in her own right?

lowkey said:

for those of you who were teenagers iin the seventies, it was about jermaine, tito, randy, and then michael, WHY?? because the brothers can play intrusments.

CynicKill said:

The truth remains that Michael is Michael BECAUSE of The Jackson 5.

The chicken came before the egg.

BLASPHEMY!

Thank you, so many people want to create a fictional narrative... on the org.

BlackCat1985 said:

lowkey said:

michael being the star power of the jackson 5 still didnt get them a grammy, he was part of the group. so janet jackson is not a superstar in her own right?

They love to down play Janet's success and talent. I will always stand by the notion that Janet has it harder than her peers. Because she has to constantly prove to people that having the last name Jackson doesn't guarantee success...look at all the other Jacksons. Are any of them selling out Arena sized shows? Hell naw! But she is. All on her own. She's worked hard for every bit of success she's had. And people still don't want to give her credit for it. [Edited 9/19/15 19:50pm]

okay lets drop the 'they' bs.

theres no doubt janet is a superstar. but janet cant freaking sing. just like madonna, they are both talented artists but lets not call them great voices because they aren't. janet had the infrastructure, money and connections that put her on a path since the day she was born. let's not act like she'd be where she is now, if she was janet nobody.

janet was MADE. i even own all her music and have been to her shows....i love her...but its a formulaic pop star trajectory. likewise the jackson 5 was MADE.

michaels talent was a gift from god that none of them could match or eclipse. michale would have been who he is if hed been born to wolves in the forest.

terrig said:

That's my point about Michael.

Everyone's saying Michael would've been a star no matter what because of God given talent.

But Michael had no interest in being a performer!

Had Tito not plucked that guitar NONE of this would've happened.

Possibly Tito might've taken a go at it and who knows MIGHT had made something of it.

I love Janet as much as any of you but she owes EVERYTHING to her brothers.

Without them she's a non-entity.

Scorp said:

terrig said:

okay lets drop the 'they' bs.

theres no doubt janet is a superstar. but janet cant freaking sing. just like madonna, they are both talented artists but lets not call them great voices because they aren't. janet had the infrastructure, money and connections that put her on a path since the day she was born. let's not act like she'd be where she is now, if she was janet nobody.

janet was MADE. i even own all her music and have been to her shows....i love her...but its a formulaic pop star trajectory. likewise the jackson 5 was MADE.

michaels talent was a gift from god that none of them could match or eclipse. michale would have been who he is if hed been born to wolves in the forest.

J5 was made? Lollllllllllo So goes the narrative If it wasn't for Tito precociously playung his father's guitar, J5 may not ever happened

okay so give him a grammy lololol

terrig said:

BlackCat1985 said:

lowkey said: They love to down play Janet's success and talent. I will always stand by the notion that Janet has it harder than her peers. Because she has to constantly prove to people that having the last name Jackson doesn't guarantee success...look at all the other Jacksons. Are any of them selling out Arena sized shows? Hell naw! But she is. All on her own. She's worked hard for every bit of success she's had. And people still don't want to give her credit for it. [Edited 9/19/15 19:50pm]

okay lets drop the 'they' bs.

theres no doubt janet is a superstar. but janet cant freaking sing. just like madonna, they are both talented artists but lets not call them great voices because they aren't. janet had the infrastructure, money and connections that put her on a path since the day she was born. let's not act like she'd be where she is now, if she was janet nobody.

janet was MADE. i even own all her music and have been to her shows....i love her...but its a formulaic pop star trajectory. likewise the jackson 5 was MADE.

michaels talent was a gift from god that none of them could match or eclipse. michale would have been who he is if hed been born to wolves in the forest.

Excellent post.. and I wish you posted on this side more often! xoxo

terrig said:

So being part of music history, isn't good enough. So being rich and never having to worry about your family being fed isn't good enough.

Michael was the superstar in that family, Janet is okay enough, carved a niche and is very verstaile, but the Jackson 5 wouldnt exist or be known without the talent and starpower of Michael and that right there is enough to know why they don't have a grammy. Without Michael, they are only 'without Michael'.

I also agree with this.

Berry Gordy was moved by the charisma of little Michael and his dancing at the audition. He was in awe of all the talented Jackson boys but it was the charisma of Michael IMHO the reason why Berry signed them. All the Jacksons are talented but Michael's talent as you mentioned was a gift from God, it was not manufactured or package like the other Jacksons.

mjscarousal said:

Scorp said:

mjscarousal said:

I also agree with this.

Berry Gordy was moved by the charisma of little Michael and his dancing at the audition. He was in awe of all the talented Jackson boys but it was the charisma of Michael IMHO the reason why Berry signed them. All the Jacksons are talented but Michael's talent as you mentioned was a gift from God, it was not manufactured or package like the other Jacksons.

Manufactured, packaged? How can someone be manufactured into playing bass and electric guitar The future looks bleak By the time this story gets recalibrated, the world wont even know Michael's last name is Jackson and that he was born in Gary, Ind They gone conjure up a joint and yank it from the clouds I guess Im thankful I was born during the time when this stuff went down in real time, at least there are the memories History cant take that away It sure has taken and distorted everything else [Edited 9/20/15 14:40pm]

Thats an individual talent, that is not as an overall artist and pop package. I was not talking about a particular jackson member in saying that. With that being said, Michael talents plus his personality, appeal, IT factor, charisma was overall more unique compared to the other family members objectively.

Again, I am in no way saying the other family members were not talented but I be lying if I suggested they had the same level of talent, charisma and superstardom as Michael because they did not. Michael was unique and a rarity.

TD3 said:

CynicKill said:

The truth remains that Michael is Michael BECAUSE of The Jackson 5.

The chicken came before the egg.

BLASPHEMY!

Thank you, so many people want to create a fictional narrative... on the org.

Co, co-sign....

micheal really started to get the attention is when he when solo, but before then it was his brothers

jackson35 said:

micheal really started to get the attention is when he when solo, but before then it was his brothers

LOL

jackson35 said:

micheal really started to get the attention is when he went solo, but before then it was his brothers

Nope.Even in the Jackson 5 days,Michael stood out.He was clearly the "star".

SoulAlive said:

jackson35 said:

micheal really started to get the attention is when he went solo, but before then it was his brothers

Nope.Even in the Jackson 5 days,Michael stood out.He was clearly the "star".

I am not sure why some don't want to face this fact...

Jermaine, Marlon, Jackie, Tito, and Randy

they have never ever suggested that Michael wasnt the centerpiece and most talented member of the Jackson Five

that's not a debate, especially after Michael cracked the code w/Thriller

but history is being rewritten in a way that paints the picture that the brothers were stand bys on stage when the fact was J5 was the ultimate self contained unit on the scene, proof in that is the countless number of acts who patterned their presentation afer them,

The Osmonds, The Sylvers, Force MDs, New Edition, Troop, Five Star, Menudo, Boyz II Men, Backstreet Boys, N Sync, 98 degrees....we can go down the line

TD3 said:

CynicKill said:

The truth remains that Michael is Michael BECAUSE of The Jackson 5.

The chicken came before the egg.

BLASPHEMY!

Thank you, so many people want to create a fictional narrative... on the org.

Especially folk that weren't even born then.

Scorp said:

Jermaine, Marlon, Jackie, Tito, and Randy

they have never ever suggested that Michael wasnt the centerpiece and most talented member of the Jackson Five

that's not a debate, especially after Michael cracked the code w/Thriller

but history is being rewritten in a way that paints the picture that the brothers were stand bys on stage when the fact was J5 was the ultimate self contained unit on the scene, proof in that is the countless number of acts who patterned their presentation afer them,

The Osmonds, The Sylvers, Force MDs, New Edition, Troop, Five Star, Menudo, Boyz II Men, Backstreet Boys, N Sync, 98 degrees....we can go down the line

People have said consistently this entire time that the Jackson boys, even the girls in their own way were talented, not sure why you think they are being slated.

This is so funny

I remember,back in 1988,reading a review of her album.The writer said....

These days,it's not always about being Aretha....you just have to be vocally convincing.Latoya is neither.