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The Jacksons admit they are still angry they never received a Grammy.

'They weren't going to let five little black kids win' The Jacksons hit out at Grammy snub

THEY are one of the most successful bands in the world but 70s legends The Jacksons admit they are still angry they never received a Grammy.

The Jacksons Bestival

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GOING STRONG: The Jacksons performed at this years Bestival festival

The Jackson 5 were nominated twice for the prestigious award – once for best contemporary group vocal performance in 1970 for global smash ABC.

And then four years later for best R&B group vocal performance with track Dancing Machine.

But both times they failed to win – a move Tito Jackson, 61, claims was simply down to the colour of their skin.

Chatting exclusively to Daily Star Online at Bestival 2015, Tito said: "For me, my brothers and I have accomplished a lot of great things throughout the years.

"We are in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, we have a star on Hollywood.

"We even did eight nights at Dodgers Stadium but we don't have a Grammy.

The Jackson 5


"The Jacksons do not own a Grammy.

"We have been nominated so many times for a one throughout our career but they have never let us win – not one time."

Despite over forty years passing it seems the snub it still very raw for the iconic band.

Their late brother Michael won an incredible 13 Grammy Awards before his death in 2009.

JERMAINE JACKSON

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JERMAINE JACKSON: Jermaine says he wants to keep performing forever

And to make matters worse when it came for the ceremony to honour MJ with the 'Lifetime Achievement Award', Jermaine and his brothers did not even receive an invite to the event.

Launching into a thinly-veiled attack on the industry, Tito continued: "Let's be real, we came up through the Grammys when music was very prejudice.

"They weren't going to have five little black boys winning over The Carpenters or U2 – not no five little black kids even though our records were popular."

Prompting Jermaine to add: "ABC knocked The Beatles off the number one spot."

Tito Jackson

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SNUBL: Tito says the reason The Jacksons didn't win a Grammy is down to the colour of their ...

But a lack of recognition has not stopped the brothers from taking to stage around the world.

In fact they plan to perform for many years to come.

"The goal is to keep going," Jermaine said.

"It's been fifty years for us and we want to continue to set the bar high, even higher, and strive for the best."

Marlon added: "We cherish the support of our fans who have been so loyal and loving throughout the years."

THE JACKSONS BESTIVAL

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NOT IMPRESSED: Tito Jackson says the group should have won a Grammy Award

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/showbiz/464854/The-Jacksons-Bestival-Grammys-Michael-Jackson

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Reply #1 posted 09/15/15 2:16pm

purplethunder3
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Time to get over it.

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Reply #2 posted 09/15/15 3:01pm

Cinny

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There are cases where the Grammys play catch up and reward them later (ie. Steely Dan).

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Reply #3 posted 09/15/15 4:22pm

therat

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They should be happy that Mike won more than enough for all of them. They just might not ever get to see or touch them.

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Reply #4 posted 09/15/15 4:40pm

duccichucka

The fuck is Tito and Jermaine talking about? "Close to You" is a better song than "ABC."
Plus, the year that the Jackson 5 lost to the Carpenters, Dionne Warwick won a Grammy
for best female pop vocal performance, so there goes the "they don't let niggras win" ar-
gument concerning the NARAS.

As for "Dancing Machine," it lost out to Rufus & Chaka Khan's "Tell Me Something Good"
which is just as memorable. Anyways, Jermaine Jackson remains one of the most annoying
people walking God's green earth, forever at war with constantly comparing himself to
his brother.

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Reply #5 posted 09/15/15 5:43pm

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Really sad that they are playing the race card as a reason why they never won a Grammy. I've never heard Diana Ross say the reason why she's never won was because she is black. And they sound really stupid if they were nominated in the R&B categories and didn't win. lol There are lots of non-black artists that have been nominated and never won. Lots of artists of all colors with big hits that have never even been nominated for a Grammy.

"It's not nice to fuck with K.B.! All you haters will see!" - Kitbradley
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Reply #6 posted 09/15/15 6:28pm

jackson35

fuck the grammys and fuck thr carpenters, the jacksons knock the beatles off the number one spot and they can't get a grammy???? the jackson 5 was the biggest group in the world and they were being racially snub.

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Reply #7 posted 09/15/15 7:23pm

SoulAlive

These guys are crazy.There are numerous acts who have never won a Grammy! The truth is,sometimes the competition is so fierce.Not everyone can win.It's not always a racial thing rolleyes The Jacksons are nothing without Michael.

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Reply #8 posted 09/15/15 7:26pm

SoulAlive

jackson35 said:

the jacksons knock the beatles off the number one spot and they can't get a grammy????

So having a Number One song automatically means you deserve a Grammy? rolleyes

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Reply #9 posted 09/15/15 7:26pm

TD3

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butt hurt.... get over it already.

Fuck the Grammy's, it was created because Frank Sintra ( and others) couldn't stand Rock & Roll / R&B. Need I say more... confused


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Reply #10 posted 09/15/15 7:28pm

SoulAlive

jackson35 said:

fuck the carpenters,

disbelief The Carpenters were great.Like I said before,the competition was so fierce back then,and not everyone was gonna win a Grammy.Marvin Gaye didn't win his first Grammy until 1983!

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Reply #11 posted 09/15/15 7:35pm

SoulAlive

As someone mentioned,Diana Ross has never won a Grammy either,despite her long career of outstanding recordings and major hit singles.I don't see her going around bitching about it.

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Reply #12 posted 09/16/15 1:18am

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Fucking Close To You bored

I like artists like Gerald Levert, Tamia, and BT Express just

to name a few who covered it and it's still boring as shit to me. One Burt Bacharach tune

I can do without.

With all that said if Jermaine Jackson is leading the brigade about never receiving a Grammy

what about getting off your ass and stop trying to push the Jackson 5 legacy down our throats.

He has a decent catalog himself. Why doesn't he get out and tour? He has a new song floating

around.

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Reply #13 posted 09/16/15 7:16am

duccichucka

SoulAlive said:

These guys are crazy.There are numerous acts who have never won a Grammy! The truth is,sometimes the competition is so fierce.Not everyone can win.It's not always a racial thing rolleyes The Jacksons are nothing without Michael.


Basically.

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Reply #14 posted 09/16/15 7:20am

duccichucka

phunkdaddy said:

Fucking Close To You bored

I like artists like Gerald Levert, Tamia, and BT Express just

to name a few who covered it and it's still boring as shit to me. One Burt Bacharach tune

I can do without.


In saying this, I hope you realize that "ABC" is not some monumentally sophisticated compositional
piece that deserves to be placed in some time capsule and shot into outerspace as emblematic of
the heights of human artistry either.


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Reply #15 posted 09/16/15 7:43am

CoolMF

I've seen their concert a few times over the last 2 years or so and it's not bad. It's weird, at first, seeing Jermaine handle all of Michael's parts on the various JAckson 5/Jacksons songs but it's an entertaining show that Marlon steals every time.

It's time for them to let Jermaine do "Don't Take It Personal" at some point during the set.

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Reply #16 posted 09/16/15 8:08am

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eek

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Reply #17 posted 09/16/15 8:34am

TD3

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phunkdaddy said:

Fucking Close To You bored

I like artists like Gerald Levert, Tamia, and BT Express just

to name a few who covered it and it's still boring as shit to me. One Burt Bacharach tune

I can do without.

With all that said if Jermaine Jackson is leading the brigade about never receiving a Grammy

what about getting off your ass and stop trying to push the Jackson 5 legacy down our throats.

He has a decent catalog himself. Why doesn't he get out and tour? He has a new song floating

around.


I've never understood why Jermaine dropped off the map. Never. confused ( For those... who've bought into the "Word To The Bad" blackballed bullshit... no, don't go there. Please.)


Talkin about being an underachiever... the man has skills yet, he pretty much chucked it. To be honest with phunkdadday, I don't think he wants to work. At this point I would be surprised if Ms. Jackson isn't cutting all her "boys" a check to sustain themselves but that her biz and her money.

As I've said, the Grammy Awards are a joke. Its always been a middle of the road music show,. Its always been a PR stunt for the major labels. The quality of a singer or band discography makes a career, not some brass. The Jackson 5 have a serious collection of singles and albums. If you call yourself a Soul / R&B collector this groups music has to be amongst your collection .... if the Jackson 5 / Jackson's isn't, I'd say your collection is wanting. (IMHO)

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Reply #18 posted 09/16/15 9:15am

Cinny

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B.T. Express recorded a version of "Close To You" and Janet sampled it (2004, "I Want You").

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Reply #19 posted 09/16/15 9:23am

Graycap23

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TD3 said:

phunkdaddy said:

Fucking Close To You bored

I like artists like Gerald Levert, Tamia, and BT Express just

to name a few who covered it and it's still boring as shit to me. One Burt Bacharach tune

I can do without.

With all that said if Jermaine Jackson is leading the brigade about never receiving a Grammy

what about getting off your ass and stop trying to push the Jackson 5 legacy down our throats.

He has a decent catalog himself. Why doesn't he get out and tour? He has a new song floating

around.


I've never understood why Jermaine dropped off the map. Never. confused ( For those... who've bought into the "Word To The Bad" blackballed bullshit... no, don't go there. Please.)


Talkin about being an underachiever... the man has skills yet, he pretty much chucked it. To be honest with phunkdadday, I don't think he wants to work. At this point I would be surprised if Ms. Jackson isn't cutting all her "boys" a check to sustain themselves but that her biz and her money.

As I've said, the Grammy Awards are a joke. Its always been a middle of the road music show,. Its always been a PR stunt for the major labels. The quality of a singer or band discography makes a career, not some brass. The Jackson 5 have a serious collection of singles and albums. If you call yourself a Soul / R&B collector this groups music has to be amongst your collection .... if the Jackson 5 / Jackson's isn't, I'd say your collection is wanting. (IMHO)

This guy is and has always been a marginal talent at best.

FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent.
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Reply #20 posted 09/16/15 10:03am

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Graycap23 said:

TD3 said:

I've never understood why Jermaine dropped off the map. Never. confused ( For those... who've bought into the "Word To The Bad" blackballed bullshit... no, don't go there. Please.)


Talkin about being an underachiever... the man has skills yet, he pretty much chucked it. To be honest with phunkdadday, I don't think he wants to work. At this point I would be surprised if Ms. Jackson isn't cutting all her "boys" a check to sustain themselves but that her biz and her money.

As I've said, the Grammy Awards are a joke. Its always been a middle of the road music show,. Its always been a PR stunt for the major labels. The quality of a singer or band discography makes a career, not some brass. The Jackson 5 have a serious collection of singles and albums. If you call yourself a Soul / R&B collector this groups music has to be amongst your collection .... if the Jackson 5 / Jackson's isn't, I'd say your collection is wanting. (IMHO)

This guy is and has always been a marginal talent at best.

No he isn't... in my humble opinion Jermain's work ethic has been marginal., very marginal.


I don't know if Jermain got caught up in thinking he could compete with Michael or just decided to coast. He had the tools to be a producer and walked away from that, he can pop a bass and walked away from that, he can write music and walked away from that, he disography is strong yet, he walked away from that. Jermaine had options to have a career in music but seem to get caught up in Mike's fame and record sales... which was a lose, lose proposition. He had (or still has) a fan base but like some folks in music... they think its lowbrow to do the old school tours. I don't know, as I've mention here before, it would be interesting for Jermaine to explain why he chucked his music career.

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Reply #21 posted 09/16/15 10:12am

Graycap23

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TD3 said:

Graycap23 said:

This guy is and has always been a marginal talent at best.

No it hasn't.... in my humble opinion Jermain's work ethic has been marginal., very marginal.


I don't know if Jermain got caught up in thinking he could compete with Michael or just decided to coast. He had the tools to be a producer and walked away from that, he can pop a bass and walked away from that, he can write music and walked away from that, he disography is strong yet, he walked away from that. Jermaine had options to have a career in music but seem to get caught up in Mike's fame and record sales... which was a lose, lose proposition. He had (or still has) a fan base but like some folks in music... they think is lowbrow to do the old school tours. I don't know, as I've mention here before, it would be interesting for Jermaine to explain why he chucked his music career.

If the J5 never existed as a group.................we would have NEVER heard of Jermaine. No way he would have made it as a solo act in the record business.

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Reply #22 posted 09/16/15 12:41pm

Guitarhero

The Jacksons don't sound humble.

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Reply #23 posted 09/16/15 12:48pm

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Graycap23 said:

TD3 said:

No it hasn't.... in my humble opinion Jermain's work ethic has been marginal., very marginal.


I don't know if Jermain got caught up in thinking he could compete with Michael or just decided to coast. He had the tools to be a producer and walked away from that, he can pop a bass and walked away from that, he can write music and walked away from that, he disography is strong yet, he walked away from that. Jermaine had options to have a career in music but seem to get caught up in Mike's fame and record sales... which was a lose, lose proposition. He had (or still has) a fan base but like some folks in music... they think is lowbrow to do the old school tours. I don't know, as I've mention here before, it would be interesting for Jermaine to explain why he chucked his music career.

If the J5 never existed as a group.................we would have NEVER heard of Jermaine. No way he would have made it as a solo act in the record business.


Maybe but it did.... would've, could've is really beside the point. Hell, if the Jackson's never happened Janet Jackson wouldn't have had a career either... but it happened. If we are going to go down that road, a lot of people wouldn't have had a music career if MTV never happened. It is what it is... shrug




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Reply #24 posted 09/16/15 1:06pm

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TD3 said:

Graycap23 said:

If the J5 never existed as a group.................we would have NEVER heard of Jermaine. No way he would have made it as a solo act in the record business.


Maybe but it did.... would've, could've is really beside the point. Hell, if the Jackson's never happened Janet Jackson wouldn't have had a career either... but it happened. If we are going to go down that road, a lot of people wouldn't have had a music career if MTV never happened. It is what it is... shrug




At the end of the day, I get it. U like the guy.

I just just never "got" it.

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Reply #25 posted 09/16/15 1:33pm

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duccichucka said:

phunkdaddy said:

Fucking Close To You bored

I like artists like Gerald Levert, Tamia, and BT Express just

to name a few who covered it and it's still boring as shit to me. One Burt Bacharach tune

I can do without.


In saying this, I hope you realize that "ABC" is not some monumentally sophisticated compositional
piece that deserves to be placed in some time capsule and shot into outerspace as emblematic of
the heights of human artistry either.


Nope never said that dude.

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Reply #26 posted 09/16/15 1:49pm

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What the Jacksons are saying would mean something if they didn't have a urban, R&B or some type of black music category back then, but they did. What do they mean by "They weren't going to let five little black kids win"? They must've been talking about in the pop and rock category or something like that.

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Reply #27 posted 09/16/15 1:57pm

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TD3 said:

Graycap23 said:

This guy is and has always been a marginal talent at best.

No it hasn't.... in my humble opinion Jermain's work ethic has been marginal., very marginal.


I don't know if Jermain got caught up in thinking he could compete with Michael or just decided to coast. He had the tools to be a producer and walked away from that, he can pop a bass and walked away from that, he can write music and walked away from that, he disography is strong yet, he walked away from that. Jermaine had options to have a career in music but seem to get caught up in Mike's fame and record sales... which was a lose, lose proposition. He had (or still has) a fan base but like some folks in music... they think is lowbrow to do the old school tours. I don't know, as I've mention here before, it would be interesting for Jermaine to explain why he chucked his music career.

You said it in a nutshell as far as Jermaine goes. To think that some folks think that MJ was the

only talented member of the J5/Jacksons is absurd. MJ was definitely the most talented brother

but that doesn't mean none of his other brothers weren't.

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Reply #28 posted 09/16/15 3:02pm

1contessa

Time to let that very old s**t go.

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Reply #29 posted 09/16/15 3:15pm

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It's not like the brothers are exactly wrong about racism playing a part in them never receiving a Grammy but even if Tito and Jermaine are referring to how things were in the 70s, I'm not buying it.

...not when Stevie won AoTY for 3 consecutive releases. This also adds into what Soul was saying: there was too much competition. The Jackson 5 is one of the top acts of the 70s but they had rock hard competition in the form of various other legendary artists across various genres (many of which haven't won a Grammy themselves).

Jermaine and Tito are just playing the race card here. Jermaine in particular could've had a better career than he did; he had/ has more than enough talent to be closer to Janet on the Jackson totem pole instead of the distant third he's considered to be.
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