Free2BMe said:

]YOU ARE BACKTRACKING AGAIN. YOU SAID THAT MJ FANS ON MJ BOARDS CALLED KATHERINE RACIST, DEROGATORY NAMES. NOW, YOU SAY THAT IT IS YOU TUBE, ENTERTAINMENT,ETC. FORUMS. WHEN YOU ARE BACKED INTO A CORNER AND CALLED OUT, YOU CONTINUE TO MANIPULATE AND LIE. YOUR 'OKIE DOKIE' IS TIRED, LAME AND OLD.

u did it yet again...like for the 10th time.....

u distorted the quote yet again........

now this is what u quoted

and this lets me know what you think u know u don't know

and what u do know doesn't count........

because if you haven't seen these derogatory comments......

then either u are blind or "you're blind".....

I don't have to try and make anyone look bad

the majority of his fans do a great job of that on their own......

check out youtube for a change, pull up any clip regarding these 3 kids, or anything related to the family and the relationship to those kids in the past 3 years and see what you come across, it will be all there for u to see...

try TMZ, where some of the most detestable comments known to man have been posted about this family on its website....

try the websites for many of these prominent entertainment sources and it's spread all over the internet like stale jelly..........

and then when you are to witness the real picture of what's really being said, which had NOTHING to do w/the entertainment value but just sheer hatred...then maybe you may start waking up to the reality as to how dreadful this situation really is........

like I said, I don't have to stoop down like a pigeon and try and call someone out there name....I don't have to go bargain basement.........that aint my bag.....

all u got to do is take just ONE single day out of your timely schedule to see what I'm talking about.....it will all be there for u to see....

there are no winners in this......everyone has lost out....

u have done it yet again

there is absolutely nowhere in that context that I backtracked......

I simply expanded on where ANYONE can look to see what's been said about this family by the majority of the fans ALONG WITH THESE FORUMS...

THAT'S what I said...

if you're going to quote somebody.....read the full measure of the text before flying off

stop pulling the rug from underneath yourself.....

and when I mentioned this earlier this week, if you stop jibbering and jabbering and skimming over words......you will see I said this from the very beginning.....

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You're welcome Free2bMe! Here's another one:
Michael Jackson and Rob Lowe

[Edited 6/8/13 0:45am]

Rob Lowe is another entertainer that doesn't age....

NaughtyKitty said:

whatsgoingon said:

I know one thing for sure if MJ were alive they would not have had a fraction of the exposure they have now. I doubt he will still be putting them in masks, however I doubt they would be on twiitter or facebook 24/7. Or doing interviews with Oprah and Ellen. I do not see why they are being so over exposed so unnecessarily.

Of course if MJ were alive they would still be problems but I doubt they would have been played out in public like this.

I still do not understand why Paris has 1million followers on twitter, lets face it if MJ were alive she would have had been lucky to even have a cell phone.

I agree. With the exception of the "Why is Janet so ignored by the famly" question, I would say why did Katherine and the rest of the family go so out of their way to disrespect MJ's wishes for his kids upbringing, is the biggest mystery about this family. It's like they went all out in trying to turn these kids into celebs and I don't get why. I mean, we all knew Latoya was going to want to exploit them, but why did Katherine and then young ass TJ allow it to happen continuously? They saw what terrible media did to MJ. Did they seriously think the media wasn't going to turn on these kids too? And it's not like the family is outspoken and badass when it comes to those that cross the line, so why set these kids up to be scrutinized? And it's one thing to pimp and exploit them, but they were so careless about it. I mean, anyone could get up on these kids. See the creepy prodcuer that's behind Paris's "movie"? That dude is out there, but he's involved in Paris 1st project? WTF? Or what about that Mr Pink drink mess? These kids were treated like circus monkeys during that mess. And this week Paris and then Prince were going to appear on that German talk show. Why???

whatsgoingon said:

The fact of the matter is as much as I believe MJ made some of the most stupidest decisions ever whilst his was alive, I am not going to pretend that his family are not were not part of iproblem. It was only after he died I realized how much his family used him as a cash cow and if a person feels they are being used by there own family then they are likely to distance themselves from and that is practically what happened to him. A good example is this AEG trial, what is the purpose of this trial? If not to squeeze money out of AEG so that the other members of the family that were left out of his will can get money. Why sue for 40 Billion? If that is not greed I do not know what is? Why are the family over [Edited 6/7/13 22:27pm]

My feelings exactly. His passing and then the family's actions made you soooo understand him so much more. And honestly it's not even the fact that the fmaily is so greedy that's upsetting, it's the fact they are so in our faces about them caring more about the money than MJ. With anyone else there is usually some sort of crumb that says maybe they aren't so bad, but with the Jacksons they give you no crumb. They are just that bad. And as a longtime fan of the Jacksons, I find that depressing.

Apparently Michael wanted to bring them on stage during the shows to introduce them to his fans, but that's a rumour. We all assume they lived sheltered lives, but when he died pictures were released of the kids, on holidays, at the beach, with friends etc. Just because the public gaze wasn't on them 24/7 doesn't mean they were locked in their rooms hiding from the world with veils on. Michael gets a bad rep for that and it's unfair, he was smart to keep his kids from the public gaze. He understood what it meant to have your privacy and childhood. He didn't want them living in a fishbowl.

If Angelina Jolie put a veil on her kids or any other celebrity they would be praised for it. That's the truth.

OfftheWall said:

Apparently Michael wanted to bring them on stage during the shows to introduce them to his fans, but that's a rumour. We all assume they lived sheltered lives, but when he died pictures were released of the kids, on holidays, at the beach, with friends etc. Just because the public gaze wasn't on them 24/7 doesn't mean they were locked in their rooms hiding from the world with veils on. Michael gets a bad rep for that and it's unfair, he was smart to keep his kids from the public gaze. He understood what it meant to have your privacy and childhood. He didn't want them living in a fishbowl.

If Angelina Jolie put a veil on her kids or any other celebrity they would be praised for it. That's the truth.

From what i'm seeing, sadly after everything that has happened recently, MJ is now getting praised within some in the media for his great parenting, which makes me want to puke because it was obvious from the beginning as to what he was doing before.. And you're right about the double standard. Anyone else does it, it would be called great parenting, but MJ does it and he gets ridiculed. And can you imagine what would have been said if MJ had done what the Jacksons had done with these kids these last 4 years? Good lord, poor MJ would have been CRUCIFIED by eveyone. It's like now the family is getting called out, but still doesn't touch what would have been said if all that has happened this past week had happened under MJ's watch.

mookie said:

OfftheWall said:

Apparently Michael wanted to bring them on stage during the shows to introduce them to his fans, but that's a rumour. We all assume they lived sheltered lives, but when he died pictures were released of the kids, on holidays, at the beach, with friends etc. Just because the public gaze wasn't on them 24/7 doesn't mean they were locked in their rooms hiding from the world with veils on. Michael gets a bad rep for that and it's unfair, he was smart to keep his kids from the public gaze. He understood what it meant to have your privacy and childhood. He didn't want them living in a fishbowl.

If Angelina Jolie put a veil on her kids or any other celebrity they would be praised for it. That's the truth.

From what i'm seeing, sadly after everything that has happened recently, MJ is now getting praised within some in the media for his great parenting, which makes me want to puke because it was obvious from the beginning as to what he was doing before.. And you're right about the double standard. Anyone else does it, it would be called great parenting, but MJ does it and he gets ridiculed. And can you imagine what would have been said if MJ had done what the Jacksons had done with these kids these last 4 years? Good lord, poor MJ would have been CRUCIFIED by eveyone. It's like now the family is getting called out, but still doesn't touch what would have been said if all that has happened this past week had happened under MJ's watch.

Exactly. What the kids have been made to do by adults in their life since the death of their father, has awoken many to realize Michael wasn't nuts or insane to hide his kids from the glare of the world. I was thinking just the other day, Michael if he was like most of these people, could have used his children during the 2003-2005 hardships, used them to try and get a better public image but he never ever did. They remained anonymous, he had their interests at heart and loved his kids. They weren't toys. He was a parent.

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For Scorp and all those other people talking about Paris and other stupid shit, I bet you wouldn't take a day getting all the hate messages Paris gets on a daily basis. These type of messages about Paris and her brothers and dad, are horrific. No child, teenager or adult should be exposed to this. I feel Paris should just get off Twitter and all other social networks, because it's not helping her.

Yea I agree she really needs to get off those social sites

These comments should be taken to authorities. Twitter threats are treated seriously. Online bullying is just as dangerous as real life bullying.

that scorp guy is propably one of these trolls

give me 90 minutes

because I got to check not 1, not 2, , but of 3 of yall

and for that clown who claimed somebody was a troll,

fool, I'm grown with a full time job...I aint got time for that crap.....

people want to continue trying to call out people, mentioning names in their post when they person they try and call out an individual who never mentions their names when participating in a discussion

OKAY, two people can play that game, be careful what u asked for

get your popcorn ready

[Edited 6/9/13 10:21am]

OMG! How sad. How the hell didn't any of the adults not do anything. I don't get it. See what Billy Joel did when his daughter got online threats?

I remember thinking what the hell when one of Tito's sons said in a Q&A with MJJC over a year ago, when asked about Paris getting online hate, he was so "oh well" about it and said, she has to learn that not everyone likes her father. Just very disappointing and thought it was ballless of him to say that.

So much drama and sadness right now. Let's remember why the world fell in love with that little boy from Gary.

And cheer ourselves up with some SOUL TRAIN line's.

woo!

And um...

[Edited 6/9/13 10:58am]

mookie said:

OMG! How sad. How the hell didn't any of the adults not do anything. I don't get it. See what Billy Joel did when his daughter got online threats?

I remember thinking what the hell when one of Tito's sons said in a Q&A with MJJC over a year ago, when asked about Paris getting online hate, he was so "oh well" about it and said, she has to learn that not everyone likes her father. Just very disappointing and thought it was ballless of him to say that.

The Jacksons are only concerned about them when they can get money out of them. That is the only reason why their holding on to their guardianship rights. They know Katherine is old to be taking care of them but where ever the children goes, the money goes and we all know the Jackson will do ANYTHING for money. The kids need be taken away from them because its obvious the Jacksons do not care about their wellbeing and safety. There too busy trying to throw their brother and son under the bus for more money. I liked to see Debbie go to court and make a case. She is the only one that seems to be concerned about these kids.

mjscarousal said:

mookie said:

OMG! How sad. How the hell didn't any of the adults not do anything. I don't get it. See what Billy Joel did when his daughter got online threats?

I remember thinking what the hell when one of Tito's sons said in a Q&A with MJJC over a year ago, when asked about Paris getting online hate, he was so "oh well" about it and said, she has to learn that not everyone likes her father. Just very disappointing and thought it was ballless of him to say that.

The Jacksons are only concerned about them when they can get money out of them. That is the only reason why their holding on to their guardianship rights. They know Katherine is old to be taking care of them but where ever the children goes, the money goes and we all know the Jackson will do ANYTHING for money. The kids need be taken away from them because its obvious the Jacksons do not care about their wellbeing and safety. There too busy trying to throw their brother and son under the bus for more money. I liked to see Debbie go to court and make a case. She is the only one that seems to be concerned about these kids.

oh so now DEBBIE is the savior but for all these years....MJ fans have been pissing on her like a canteen

one of the all time flip flops I've ever seen

at first, she was viewed as someone who abandoned her kids from 1997-2012, but now in 2013, to protect the lies, she's seem as mommie dearest...but for the past 3 years, the majority of his fans said she was only trying to start a relationship w/the 2 oldest kids FOR THE MONEY.....they called her a moneygrabber right along w/his family

notice, aint nothin said about the youngest kid, he don't have a clue who his real mother is, OR his real father, he's out there in no man's land, but fans hold the entertainment value in greater regard, screw the human factor

and this is why I say this neverending crusade has absolute no legitimate backing at all, it's all gas.....

but ya see, in 2005, during that trial, Debbie was in the process of trying to regain those parental rights MIKE paid her millions to relinquish, but a major condition the court magistrate required is that she proved the real fraternity of those kids

and when MIKE got a word of that, he took those 3 kids and left the united states and put up residence in Bahrain...and she never got a chance to do it

and when she earned partial custodial rights after 6/25/2009, I saw a litany of MJ fans scream foul....

but I'll deal w/those other 3 shortly.....

[Edited 6/9/13 11:10am]

Scorp said:

mjscarousal said:

The Jacksons are only concerned about them when they can get money out of them. That is the only reason why their holding on to their guardianship rights. They know Katherine is old to be taking care of them but where ever the children goes, the money goes and we all know the Jackson will do ANYTHING for money. The kids need be taken away from them because its obvious the Jacksons do not care about their wellbeing and safety. There too busy trying to throw their brother and son under the bus for more money. I liked to see Debbie go to court and make a case. She is the only one that seems to be concerned about these kids.

oh so now DEBBIE is the savior but for all these years....MJ fans have been pissing on her like a canteen

one of the all time flip flops I've ever seen

at first, she was viewed as someone who abandoned her kids from 1997-2012, but now in 2013, to protect the lies, she's seem as mommie dearest

and this is why I say this neverending crusade has absolute no legitimate backing at all, it's all gas.....

but ya see, in 2005, during that trial, Debbie was in the process of trying to regain those parental rights MIKE paid her millions to relinquish, but a major condition the court magistrate required is that she proved the real fraternity of those kids

and when MIKE got a word of that, he took those 3 kids and left the united states and put up residence in Bahrain...and she never got a chance to do it

and when she earned partial custodial rights after 6/25/2009, I saw a litany of MJ fans scream foul....

but I'll deal w/those other 3 shortly.....

Regardless of what has happened in the past, she seems to be the ONLY adult right now that shows concerned for the wellbeing of the children. The Jacksons behavior have been FAR WORSE than anything Debbie has ever done. The remaining aunts, uncles and grandparents dont seem to care about the children so yes the children should be with someone who will love and take care of them. I am not saying she is the BEST choice but what other choices do the children have? The Jacksons are too busy trying to get more money out of their deceased family member.

mjscarousal said:

Scorp said:

oh so now DEBBIE is the savior but for all these years....MJ fans have been pissing on her like a canteen

one of the all time flip flops I've ever seen

at first, she was viewed as someone who abandoned her kids from 1997-2012, but now in 2013, to protect the lies, she's seem as mommie dearest

and this is why I say this neverending crusade has absolute no legitimate backing at all, it's all gas.....

but ya see, in 2005, during that trial, Debbie was in the process of trying to regain those parental rights MIKE paid her millions to relinquish, but a major condition the court magistrate required is that she proved the real fraternity of those kids

and when MIKE got a word of that, he took those 3 kids and left the united states and put up residence in Bahrain...and she never got a chance to do it

and when she earned partial custodial rights after 6/25/2009, I saw a litany of MJ fans scream foul....

but I'll deal w/those other 3 shortly.....

Regardless of what has happened in the past, she seems to be the ONLY adult right now that shows concerned for the wellbeing of the children. The Jacksons behavior have been FAR WORSE than anything Debbie has ever done. The remaining aunts, uncles and grandparents dont seem to care about the children so yes the children should be with someone who will love and take care of them. I am not saying she is the BEST choice but what other choices do the children have? The Jacksons are too busy trying to get more money out of their deceased family member.

u flip flopped MJ Carousal

and u did it big time and out the box.....because u choose to uphold the image and believe all the lies......

for when truth is absolute, u don't have to resort to flip floppin

your hate and disdain is directed at the wrong source and was generated by the very person whose false image u continue to try and uhpold....I'm not talking about the man from 1969-1984, but the man who embraced the concept of racial indifference and projected it to the world after reaching the pinnacle of his career

and the thing about it is......MICHAEL JACKSON didn't have any money at the end of his career, he was tapped out, and had to relinquish all of his assets, everything w/his name on it over 40 years to secure the agreement for that tour.....

theregoesmybaby...

I'm a deal w/u first, I see u are a neophyte, so I have a special clip for you to ween on, and then maybe you can learn something about what happens when we assume or go by probability

Golddolphin,

I'll deal w/u second, and show u how society has been conditioned to look at the present circumstance w/out considering the cause that led to it....

and then Free2bme...I'm dealing w/your ass last....

[Edited 6/9/13 11:30am]

^

I just want the children to be safe and happy. They should not be placed in a hostile situation if they dont want too. If they want to be with Debbie than let them. The Jacksons dont care about them. They just want them because they know they bring in money. Everything else is just your subjective delusions that I dont care to entertain.

mjscarousal said:

^

I just want the children to be safe and happy. They should not be placed in a hostile situation if they dont want too. If they want to be with Debbie than let them. The Jacksons dont care about them. They just want them because they know they bring in money. Everything else is just your subjective delusions that I dont care to entertain.

lies after lies after lies...

remember on KOP around August, after that memorial......

I posted that Debbie should be given full custody of those 2 oldest children.....and that would be the best possible scenerio out of this situation

I posted that..and u know what the response was by the legion?

they told me to shut the f*** up and that Debbie was nothing by a moneygrabber and a leecher after Michael's money from that estate......THAT WAS THE CONSENSUS

matter of fact, a ton of fans were making fun of her talking about her appearance and her weight, raggin, jokin, having a grand ole time.......but now she's the end to be all...

but go ahead and believe teh lies, for u will eventually flip flop again when the situation causes for it....

why you guys always hatin on the jacksons ??

we dont know if the press tellin the truth

what happened with fuck the press michael is the best

theregoesmybaby said:

that scorp guy is propably one of these trolls

hey homie.....

check out this clip.....it has a great moral lesson w/in the entertainment value.....

and maybe the next time u fly off, you won't resort to probables are assumptions

I'll go easy on u...the clip will do all the talkin...a great life lesson for us all

Scorp said:

theregoesmybaby said:

that scorp guy is propably one of these trolls

hey homie.....

check out this clip.....it has a great moral lesson w/in the entertainment value.....

and maybe the next time u fly off, you won't resort to probables are assumptions

I'll go easy on u...the clip will do all the talkin...a great life lesson for us all

look at this you will learn more about you

https://www.youtube.com/w...4JG9z7q168

*rself sorry