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Kurt Loder -- the longtime face of "MTV News" -- says he believes Michael Jacksonwas a child molester.
Loder appeared on the "Jeff and Jeremy in the Morning" radio show this morning ... when he was asked if he thought MJ's death was a tragedy.
Loder replied, "Its a shame how he grew up ... his childhood was a shame ... there is many sad aspects to his life, ... on the other hand, I think he was a child molester, and that sort of tempers any feelings you might have about him."
When asked why he believed MJ molested kids, Loder claimed he knew about secret payouts to the parents of little boys ... and pointed to MJ's bizarre behavior.
"Having sleepovers with little boys, and you're a 40 year old man??? Uh, NO. You're like a child molester."
Loder continues, "Maybe being a child molester is the product of a pretty terrible childhood he had ... you can see why that might have happened. On the other hand, molesting children is bad."
I wish he was closer to the the bed for Dirty Diana
I hate sounding like a shallow groupie cause I take him seriously as an artist, but honestly! I miss him like I knew him, all the time. | |
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hand me the link!
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You'll have them soon, with yo triflin' ass "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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ha, well im sure there is MUCH more footage of Dirty Diana, so its possible that he was much closer to the bed in some takes.
and i know how you feel, i miss him so much, and with this trial its just making it harder. | |
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Oh wait I just remembered, he likes it on the floor!
I'm sooooo bad
If I don't act crazy, this trial will do me in. Maybe I'm just desperate, but even when I see him looking so adorable now, I start getting thoughts about wishing we were together and close with a little family, and I didn't really understand fans like that before, especially cause I prefer being single. | |
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dm3857 said: thanks for posting the Moscow footage, i really enjoyed it.
i dont mean to be filling up this forum with This Is It things..but the more i watch the trial, and the more i think about it, michael wanted these concerts so badly. and the fact that we know for sure there is 100 hours of footage makes me go crazy! there are a few new things i found since my last post, i really hope you enjoy. a clip of footage from a Dont Stop Till You Get Enough rehersal. Michaels voice is just BEAUTIFUL.
Stranger in Moscow(its only the back up singers, but with them leaving for london in a matter of days..im sure michael atleast went over it.)
2 bad dance rehersals(most have seen this, but im sure there is MUCH MUCH more of things like this)
with there being 6 for sure songs that they went over not in the original film, (dangerous,dirty diana,will you be there,heal the world,dont stop till you get enough,stranger in moscow) and with rock with you on the setlist(they had to have rehersed these songs, or atleast go over them with them packing for london in just weeks) but honestly.. i just want everything, the "creative meetings" the dance rehersals, just talking and playing around.. EVERYTHING. there is so much more michael then we are getting to see.. it would give us fans a true insight of what michael really wanted with these shows. im sorry for flooding this thread with this type stuff, but its just on my mind and just really want this to happen. [Edited 11/5/11 21:18pm] If you want it all best buy the blu-ray. It has a lot of bonus material and is the main source for the clips you posted. Also in the film you hear snippets of Dstyge and in the bonus features have a bit of MJ singing it as he comes onto the stage during one rehearsal. "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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I have the blu ray, but haven't watched all the features yet | |
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i have the blu ray, and yes i have seen most of that footage before, but im saying i want it ALL, every bit of it, every move,every word,every idea, every note,every joke,every laugh... EVERYTHING.
there is so much that we havent seen. | |
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Though I like it, I find it hard to watch, especially cause I saw Dangerous rehearsals years ago and I feel like this is a piece for the public more. Though I would like to see more too, I'm not digging for it or anything like that. I guess I'm still hurt he's no longer here. | |
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This Is It premiers on Vh1 tonight for those few who haven't seen it yet. "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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MJ Immortal - SPOILER!!!! Don't watch if you have tickets as it shows too much of the show and some of the wow moments. For those not going (yet) this may change your mind, and for those that have been this will bring a smile to your face. "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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Remembering my time being at the show, and watching these clips again is making me miss him more. He was like the icing and cherry on top of the delicious cake | |
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Is the estate really considdering fan wishes for bad anniversary ? im afraid we are doomed for casios filled projects , no bad tour , and remixes of off the wall and bad | |
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There has to be a way we tell the estate to do it. There are so many of us, and we have to plan something. | |
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MJ L.O.V.E: https://www.facebook.com/...689&type=2 / YOUTUBE: http://www.youtube.com/us...nderSilent | |
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Oh look, they are on Alphabit Street
These are cute, I've seen them before, thanks for posting | |
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http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/07/conrad-murray-verdict/
Dr. Conrad Murray has been found GUILTY of involuntary manslaughter in the death of Michael Jackson -- stick around for a special TMZ Live on the verdict. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
U 'gon make me shake my doo loose! http://www.twitter.com/nivlekbrad | |
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The Conrad Murray trial is now over and a guilty verdict delivered. I am glad Murray got his day in court and am happy with the verdict. Some fans though I think are celebrating like its a win that will bring Michael back. It won't. Holding signs that say burn in hell or the like I think make a mockery of what Michael strived for in acceptance and tollerance and love. Something missing in some fans reactions. It's a hollow victory. And while hopefully it will help bring closure to the family and the kids, the next civil trial will no doubt just bring it all back. Hopefully, Michael can rest in peace finally. "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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I think those fans acted like idiots, as if it was a concert. If I'm going to act like that, it has to be the right setting or in the privacy of my own home. | |
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I think at this point, the estate is more concerned with appealing to the general public and casual fans than the hardcore fanbase. While I agree that the general public is important, when you alienate the core base, you screw yourself
What I'd like to see the estate do is
-Do an interesting campaign for the 25th anniversary for Bad, release a boxset edition of the album along with a photobook, Bad Tour DVD/Blu Ray, and various items from the 1986-89 period. Maybe do a documentary/EPK about the album that could be shown on TV, Youtube, and the official site
-Commission the MJ/David Michael Frank instrumental album
-Along with the MJ Fan Fest (Not sure if it's gonna be a yearly event), launch something like a Michael Jackson Film Show where you show all of Michael's videos in a theater. It could be in LA or San Francisco or New York....
-Get these litigation with Landis finish and put Making Michael Jackson's Thriller on Blu Ray
-No more songs from the "Cascio sessions" "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Is the general public intrested in fake songs an remixes ? cirque de soleil ? i dont think so, they dont really care thats what i believe. I cant imagine buying another tainted album , i just want bad tour or otherwhise i buy motown albums | |
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Yes the general public is interested in the Cirque show. They marketed "Michael" to casual listeners. That's why the Akon song and 50 Cent were included...unfortunately nobody told them that 50 was irrelevent by 2010 "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Both Akon (who's living good off Gaga's sales right about now) and 50 Cent have been musically irrelevant for years. That shows you how out of touch record label moguls and executives are with what's "hip". | |
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Gotta put those Will.I.Am tracks out there. Those were meant for a new album. Probably the best of what's in the vault. | |
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I personally think will.i.am/BEP are garbage. | |
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as well do i! i feel like will was in a way "taking control" or atleast trying to. and they were going for a more mainstream sound.. and i honestly dont think michael was feeling those tracks.. and im not sure he would want those specific tracks released, of coarse im all for new michael music, and yes i would enjoy hearing those tracks because it is michael.. but to say "Probably the best of whats in the vault" is the just NOT TRUE... think of all the off the wall,thriller,bad,dangerous,history,invincible outtakes.. then think about songs michael had been recording for the past 10 years (post invincible) i believe there is SO MUCH genius and beautiful music in the vault.. i just wish the bone heads at sony would release REAL (NOT jason malachi!!) tracks and DONT mess with the unfinished demos, JUST RELEASE THEM..some may argue that the songs werent "perfected" but im okay with that, i rather have them the way michael had them and not have these bone head producers try and edit them.. LEAVE THE MUSIC ALONE AND RELEASE IT!
Here are some of Michaels Demos.. and as you will hear.. THEY ARE FANTASTIC.. and i would LOVE for them to just release the music the way michael made it.. and not try to edit it at ALL!
NOTE:im sorry that i probabaly repeated my self a few times, but when ever the topic the music in the vault, and the this is it footage i cant help but to share ALL my thoughts, lol, i just feel very strongly about these subjects.
but moral to this long post is that they need to release the music the way michael made it, whether it was "finished" or not, as you can tell by listening to michaels unfinished demos that they are absolutly WONDERFUL!
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I can't believe Kurt Loder saiid this
KURT LODER:
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I can't believe we are still talking about this. Can we leave "wacko jacko" behind and focus on the real MJ from now on? | |
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