bboy87 said:

With the estate confirming that a 25th anniversary edition of Bad is on the way, how would you guys like to see it released? In a deluxe boxset (more expensive) or would you like to see them do a simple re-release with a few outtakes similar to the 2001 special edition (cheaper)

Why marbles?

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

I'm sending a list of ideas to the MJ Estate and I just revised my idea for Bad 25 after seeing the "Immersion" edition of Pink Floyd's "Dark Side Of The Moon"

DISC 1 – CD 1:

The Dark Side Of The Moon digitally remastered by James Guthrie 2011

DISC 2 – CD 2:

The Dark Side Of The Moon performed live at Wembley in 1974 (2011 Mix and previously unreleased)

DISC 3 – DVD 1, ALL AUDIO:

- The Dark Side Of The Moon, James Guthrie 2003 5.1 Surround Mix (previously released only on SACD) in standard resolution audio at 448 kbps

- The Dark Side Of The Moon, James Guthrie 2003 5.1 Surround Mix (previously released only on SACD) in high resolution audio at 640 kbps

- The Dark Side Of The Moon, LPCM Stereo mix (as disc 1)

- The Dark Side Of The Moon, Alan Parsons Quad Mix (previously released only on vinyl LP/8 track tape in 1973) in standard resolution audio at 448 kbps

- The Dark Side Of The Moon, Alan Parsons Quad Mix (previously released only on vinyl LP/8 track tape in 1973) in high resolution audio at 640 kbps

DISC 4 - DVD 2, ALL AUDIO VISUAL:

-Live In Brighton 1972:

Careful With That Axe, Eugene (previously unreleased on DVD)

Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun (previously unreleased on DVD)

-The Dark Side Of The Moon, 2003 documentary (25 min EPK)

-Concert Screen Films (60 min total):

British Tour 1974

French Tour 1974

North American Tour 1975

Screen films play in stereo and 5.1 Surround Sound

DISC 5 – BLURAY, AUDIO+AUDIO VISUAL

-AUDIO: The Dark Side Of The Moon, James Guthrie 2003 5.1 Surround Mix (previously released only on SACD) in high resolution audio at 96 kHz/24-bit

-AUDIO: The Dark Side Of The Moon, Original stereo mix (1973) mastered in high resolution audio at 96 kHz/24-bit

-AUDIO VISUAL: Live In Brighton 1972:

Careful With That Axe, Eugene (previously unreleased on DVD/BluRay)

Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun (previously unreleased on DVD/BluRay)

-AUDIO VISUAL: The Dark Side Of The Moon, 2003 documentary (EPK)

-AUDIO VISUAL: Concert Screen Films (5.1 Surround Mix):

British Tour 1974

French Tour 1974

North American Tour 1975

-AUDIO VISUAL: Concert Screen Films (High Resolution Stereo Mix):

British Tour 1974

French Tour 1974

North American Tour 1975

DISC 6 - CD3:

-The Dark Side Of The Moon 1972 Early Album Mix engineered by Alan Parsons (previously unreleased)

- The Hard Way (from ‘Household Objects’ project)

- Us And Them, Richard Wright Demo (previously unreleased)

- The Travel Sequence, live from Brighton June 1972 (previously unreleased)

- The Mortality Sequence, live from Brighton June 1972 (previously unreleased)

- Any Colour You Like, live from Brighton June 1972 (previously unreleased)

- The Travel Sequence, studio recording 1972 (previously unreleased)

- Money, Roger Waters’ demo (previously unreleased)

40 page 27cm x 27cm booklet designed by Storm Thorgerson

Exclusive photo book edited by Jill Furmanovsky

27cm x 27cm Exclusive Storm Thorgerson Art Print

5 x Collectors’ Cards featuring art and comments by Storm Thorgerson

Replica of The Dark Side Of The Moon Tour Ticket

Replica of The Dark Side Of The Moon Backstage Pass

Scarf

3 x Black marbles

9 x Coasters (unique to this box) featuring early Storm Thorgerson design sketches

12 page credits booklet

imagine something like that for either Bad, Thriller, or Off The Wall

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Does anyone know why We've Had Enough wasn't included on INVINCIBLE?? that track is excellent, much better than the crappy songs after Butterflies...

and btw, I've been listening HIStory a lot lately and I don't get why the reviews were so hostile...the only stinkers are Tabloid Junkie and Smile (and Childhood, which is not a bad song but too personal/painful so I always skip it) ??

I love We've Had Enough and felt the same when I heard, same with Fall Again, which was not completed due to time conflicts. I havea feeling he wrote it in response to the 9-11 attacks though at some point after the album was completed though I don't know when. I feel it's one of his best if not the best of the 00's.

EmeraldSkies said:

bboy87 said:

With the estate confirming that a 25th anniversary edition of Bad is on the way, how would you guys like to see it released? In a deluxe boxset (more expensive) or would you like to see them do a simple re-release with a few outtakes similar to the 2001 special edition (cheaper)

Deluxe Box Set. Give us everything in the vaults from that era. Also include the BAD Tour on dvd or blu-ray. Any studio footage and making of videos? I'll take that as well. Now would be the time to give us everything the Estate can with BAD.

HELL YEAH! Bad is the best!

http://www.legendarymichaeljackson.nl/?p=6681

Before and after 2009 we already proved the world that Michael Jackson fans are a very special bread. No artist in the world is backed up and supported by such a huge and loving army as Michael is. After Michael’s death fans have set different targets and most of them are succesful. For example; ‘uncovering Michael’s name on the Michael Jackson Auditorium’, ‘the Michael Jackson Video Vanguard Award’ was reinstated by MTV’, ‘the Discovery special with a reconstruction of Michael’s autopsy was cancelled’, ‘several mainstream media agreed not to use the term Michael and/or Jackson anymore’, etc.

Early October Michael Jackson fans set another goal to achieve. In honor of the 10th anniversary of Michael’s 10th studio album INVINCIBLE we agreed to buy at least another copy of this great album which has reached the number one position in many, many countries. The goal was for the album to get the number one spot once more. Today we were notified that INVINCIBLE has reached the number 1 spot in “Best Sellers in Dance & DJ” on Amazon.com. What a way to honor our hero. Congratulations Mike!

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bboy87 said:

With the estate confirming that a 25th anniversary edition of Bad is on the way, how would you guys like to see it released? In a deluxe boxset (more expensive) or would you like to see them do a simple re-release with a few outtakes similar to the 2001 special edition (cheaper)

I only care for tour dvds , if sony doenst release that , i will not buy anything with michaels name tagged on it

Something packaged like Thriller 25. I want the extra tracks to be ones that were never released before (no streetwalker, cheater or fly away), and the Wembley or Kansas City Bad tour on DVD

I'd rather buy a boxed set for Bad because I'd rather have something like that instead of a CD. I bought the Visionary boxed set a few years ago. It was on 150, and I didn't mind cause it was MJ. LOL.

My boyfriend couldn't whine cause he has a replica of the purple symbol guitar. LOL.

That guitar sounds sexy

I bought visionary singles if it had tracks I didn't already own, or if I had them on vinyl and wanted them on CD format too, such as the Dirty Diana one. I didn't bother buying the ones that had nothing other than album tracks.

dm3857 said:

hi hello mj lovers!

quick question... as most of you know, michael was inspired by charlie chaplin.

i am wondering in what ways? (meaning Dance,Film,Music) etc..

all i know about chaplin is that he is a very famous silent film actor,( i havent done much research on him) if you could help me with this,

id greatly appreciate it,

All I know is Michael was inspired by Charlie Chaplin as an artist and as an entertainer. Michael said he admires Charlie Chaplin because he can make people cry and laugh at the same time. And then went on to call him "King of Pathos". He also mentioned how he feels like sometimes, he is Charlie Chaplin himself. I think Michael really admired Chaplin's ability to entertain people and touch people's heart. I've also heard Chaplin had rough childhood as well...I'd love to know more about Chaplin as well...I should umm look it up...

They can do so many great things with the 25th anniversary of BAD.

for starers a Box Set. A Big Beautiful box set!!!

with this i think they should release the 3 disc bad album set (which it was originally supposed to be a 3 disc set)

DVDS:

Bad Tour Tokyo 1987 (not yokohoma, and there where 2 shows, one michael wore red,one michael wore black.)

Bad Tour Wembley

Bad Tour Rehearsals ( michael taped his rehersals for his personal archives)

Extras:

A Remake Bad Tour Program

and then add something kind of like the visionary, only the singles from bad of coarse, and have the video and 'making ofs' of those videos

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JoeTyler said:

Does anyone know why We've Had Enough wasn't included on INVINCIBLE?? that track is excellent, much better than the crappy songs after Butterflies...

and btw, I've been listening HIStory a lot lately and I don't get why the reviews were so hostile...the only stinkers are Tabloid Junkie and Smile (and Childhood, which is not a bad song but too personal/painful so I always skip it) ??

I think because History came out after the accusations of 1993 and because in it Mike deals with more difficult and dark themes that critics didn't know how to interpret or they didn't want to look at them at all. But we have to remember that Mike wasn't critics favourte boy and that started to became more obvious during and after Thriller. If i had to pick a seriously underrated work of MJ's, that would definitelly be HIStory. That album contains some killer songs in it and some of the most amazing lyrics ever written in the history of music.

I don't agree with you on Tabloid Junkie being bad, althought i can understand why you don't like it.People have different tastes. Anyway, yes the music isn't exactly a killer but the lyrics of that song are mind blowing and kinda like Mike knew what would happen if he died and how the media that at that would react.

In the hood
Frame him if you could
Shoot to kill
To blame him if you will
If he dies sympathize
Such false witnesses
Damn self righteousness
In the black
Stab me in the back
In the face
To lie and shame the race
Heroine and Marilyn
As the headline stories of
All your glory

And he was right. Eerie Lyrics. And if i'm not mistaken Tabloid Junkie is one of the firt songs that so openly and accurately criticise the media system and the tabloid charateristic of it. Brilliant song and so much underrated. Well actually the whole album is.

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dm3857 said:

They can do so many great things with the 25th anniversary of BAD.

for starers a Box Set. A Big Beautiful box set!!!

with this i think they should release the 3 disc bad album set (which it was originally supposed to be a 3 disc set)

DVDS:

Bad Tour Tokyo 1987 (not yokohoma, and there where 2 shows, one michael wore red,one michael wore black.)

Bad Tour Wembley

Bad Tour Rehearsals ( michael taped his rehersals for his personal archives)

Extras:

A Remake Bad Tour Program

and then add something kind of like the visionary, only the singles from bad of coarse, and have the video and 'making ofs' of those videos

[Edited 11/1/11 16:07pm]

I already sent my ideas to the estate the other day

bboy87 said:

dm3857 said:

They can do so many great things with the 25th anniversary of BAD.

for starers a Box Set. A Big Beautiful box set!!!

with this i think they should release the 3 disc bad album set (which it was originally supposed to be a 3 disc set)

DVDS:

Bad Tour Tokyo 1987 (not yokohoma, and there where 2 shows, one michael wore red,one michael wore black.)

Bad Tour Wembley

Bad Tour Rehearsals ( michael taped his rehersals for his personal archives)

Extras:

A Remake Bad Tour Program

and then add something kind of like the visionary, only the singles from bad of coarse, and have the video and 'making ofs' of those videos

[Edited 11/1/11 16:07pm]

I already sent my ideas to the estate the other day

Here's to hoping that they listen. *fingers crossed*

EmeraldSkies said:

bboy87 said:

I already sent my ideas to the estate the other day

Here's to hoping that they listen. *fingers crossed*

the idea i sent them came in 2 formats

standard 2 disc set

and then a deluxe 6 disc set (4 CDs+2 DVDs)

and came with a art/photobook, replicas of the "World of Michael Jackson" newsletters, Bad Tourbook and a replica of a bad tour ticket

now that I think about, i should've included vinyl as the third format

crazymouse said:

JoeTyler said:

Does anyone know why We've Had Enough wasn't included on INVINCIBLE?? that track is excellent, much better than the crappy songs after Butterflies...

and btw, I've been listening HIStory a lot lately and I don't get why the reviews were so hostile...the only stinkers are Tabloid Junkie and Smile (and Childhood, which is not a bad song but too personal/painful so I always skip it) ??

I think because History came out after the accusations of 1993 and because in it Mike deals with more difficult and dark themes that critics didn't know how to interpret or they didn't want to look at them at all. But we have to remember that Mike wasn't critics favourte boy and that started to became more obvious during and after Thriller. If i had to pick a seriously underrated work of MJ's, that would definitelly be HIStory. That album contains some killer songs in it and some of the most amazing lyrics ever written in the history of music.

I don't agree with you on Tabloid Junkie being bad, althought i can understand why you don't like it.People have different tastes. Anyway, yes the music isn't exactly a killer but the lyrics of that song are mind blowing and kinda like Mike knew what would happen if he died and how the media that at that would react.

In the hood
Frame him if you could
Shoot to kill
To blame him if you will
If he dies sympathize
Such false witnesses
Damn self righteousness
In the black
Stab me in the back
In the face
To lie and shame the race
Heroine and Marilyn
As the headline stories of
All your glory

And he was right. Eerie Lyrics. And if i'm not mistaken Tabloid Junkie is one of the firt songs that so openly and accurately criticise the media system and the tabloid charateristic of it. Brilliant song and so much underrated. Well actually the whole album is.

[Edited 11/1/11 18:04pm]

Tabloid Junkie is one of the best songs on HIStory. The "just because you read it in a magazine" hook is killer.

MJ's cuts with Jam & Lewis were all magic.

Tabloid Junkie is very underrated. I forgot how good the lyrics were though I've always loved them, and how true they ring now. I had actually put this on a few weeks ago after so long and was getting chills.

I also noticed the other day that my favourite remixes off BOTDF are the Jimmy & Terry tracks,and I'm a big fan of Janet's remixes, so I think the songs they produce have to do with remixes turning out great. But yeah, they work amazing with MJ.

bboy87 said:

EmeraldSkies said:

Here's to hoping that they listen. *fingers crossed*

the idea i sent them came in 2 formats

standard 2 disc set

and then a deluxe 6 disc set (4 CDs+2 DVDs)

and came with a art/photobook, replicas of the "World of Michael Jackson" newsletters, Bad Tourbook and a replica of a bad tour ticket

now that I think about, i should've included vinyl as the third format

i really hope they listen.. ill be devistated if they dont do something BIG with this release.

how do you send your ideas to the estate?

Yeah, do you have their email or something? Is there a site brought to their attention where we can write ideas?

But I'm also thinking, they believe Thriller was a bigger era, and that anniversary set was a small and simple one, so maybe we are expecting too much for Bad? I really think that tour deserves to be released though. I know MTV aired Kansas city clips of some of the tour songs, but are all clips available out there? And is that the best quality or would you say Wembley is better?

As with many of the songs on HIStory, Tabloid Junkie is MJ at his most honest and personal and is a song that I love. Musically it draws you in and the rapid fire verses set up the accusations while the irresistible hooks of the chorus lay out the facts.

MJ covers a whole range of reported stories from the JFK assasination, to Marilyn Monroe, to comments about himself, and allusions to Madonna. It's a song that wraps up gossip and tidbits in a way that has you looking deeper into the truth of the situation.

For me it is one of the better songs on the HIStory.

NaughtyKitty said:

Look at his vitiligo on his hand at 1:24.

The video made me cry.

Michael Jackson: The Life of an Icon

http://www.livestream.com...feofanicon

[Edited 11/2/11 12:03pm]

mjforever said:

Michael Jackson: The Life of an Icon

http://www.livestream.com...feofanicon

[Edited 11/2/11 12:03pm]

Have they shown the documentary or are they going to show it?

[Edited 11/2/11 12:21pm]

dm3857 said:

bboy87 said:

the idea i sent them came in 2 formats

standard 2 disc set

and then a deluxe 6 disc set (4 CDs+2 DVDs)

and came with a art/photobook, replicas of the "World of Michael Jackson" newsletters, Bad Tourbook and a replica of a bad tour ticket

now that I think about, i should've included vinyl as the third format

i really hope they listen.. ill be devistated if they dont do something BIG with this release.

how do you send your ideas to the estate?

I sent them through the MJ Online Team, who are the MJ Estate's online representatives. One member joined KOP to be an informer of new releases and feedback, and she ended up getting attacked by various ppl so she made 2 posts and never came back BUT I emailed her privately and asked her about submitting ideas to the estate. She gave me an email address, and it was forwarded to another rep. This was earlier this year

I wanted to do it directly to the estate or sony because I remember how my last plan went down in flames

dag said:

mjforever said:

Michael Jackson: The Life of an Icon

http://www.livestream.com...feofanicon

[Edited 11/2/11 12:03pm]

Have they shown the documentary or are they going to show it?

[Edited 11/2/11 12:21pm]

I do not know.leaked online everywhere:

http://www.iwannawatch.ne...icon-2011/

mjforever said:

dag said:

Have they shown the documentary or are they going to show it?

[Edited 11/2/11 12:21pm]

I do not know.leaked online everywhere:

http://www.iwannawatch.ne...icon-2011/

Have you seen it? Is it good?

dag said:

Have you seen it? Is it good?

The reviews seem to be meh to it's ok.

From tumblr:

Just watched the David Gest MJ documentary. Nothing new. Some parts were SUPER tacky like using the 911 call at the beginning and claiming Michael was “asexual” as usual.
Also just as I suspected they COMPLETELY jumped over The Wiz and Michael’s time in New York. Don’t people realise what a big point this was in his life?!
Edit: I’ll send my dvd to whoever wants to watch it. It was such a waste of 25 dollars to me, LOL.
Blah.

Fan review:

Hi guys

I just finished watching the David Gest dock 'The Life of an Icon'. I kinda have mixed feelings about it. I don't think it was put together terribly well. The idea of focusing on how great a talent he was as a kid was great, but that side of the doco lasted the whole first hour and I was like "man when are they gonna get to Off the Wall and Thriller and Bad", and when it got to that period, it was just brushed over in about 5/10 minutes!, then next thing it jumped straight to the molestation charges!!! Come on man!! I'm trying to forget about all that stuff! I want to see a doco about how awesome he was as an entertainer and humanitarian, which is what I was hoping this would be. Granted you can't ignore the terrible things he had to endure in court and so on, but for that to be the sole focus of a lot of the documentary was a bit of a letdown, and didn't make me want to show this documentary to other people. I finished watching the documentary feeling very sad and frankly a bit depressed. That's not the way any of us want to remember Michael.

Anyway that's just my two cents. I am very appreciative that David Gest and others involved in the doco went out of their way to put Michael in a positive light, which I can safely say they did. Here's to hoping one day there will be an awesome doco or something that only focuses on his talent and love for others.

mookie said:

dag said:

Have you seen it? Is it good?

The reviews seem to be meh to it's ok.

From tumblr:

Just watched the David Gest MJ documentary. Nothing new. Some parts were SUPER tacky like using the 911 call at the beginning and claiming Michael was “asexual” as usual.
Also just as I suspected they COMPLETELY jumped over The Wiz and Michael’s time in New York. Don’t people realise what a big point this was in his life?!
Edit: I’ll send my dvd to whoever wants to watch it. It was such a waste of 25 dollars to me, LOL.
Blah.

Fan review:

Hi guys

I just finished watching the David Gest dock 'The Life of an Icon'. I kinda have mixed feelings about it. I don't think it was put together terribly well. The idea of focusing on how great a talent he was as a kid was great, but that side of the doco lasted the whole first hour and I was like "man when are they gonna get to Off the Wall and Thriller and Bad", and when it got to that period, it was just brushed over in about 5/10 minutes!, then next thing it jumped straight to the molestation charges!!! Come on man!! I'm trying to forget about all that stuff! I want to see a doco about how awesome he was as an entertainer and humanitarian, which is what I was hoping this would be. Granted you can't ignore the terrible things he had to endure in court and so on, but for that to be the sole focus of a lot of the documentary was a bit of a letdown, and didn't make me want to show this documentary to other people. I finished watching the documentary feeling very sad and frankly a bit depressed. That's not the way any of us want to remember Michael.

Anyway that's just my two cents. I am very appreciative that David Gest and others involved in the doco went out of their way to put Michael in a positive light, which I can safely say they did. Here's to hoping one day there will be an awesome doco or something that only focuses on his talent and love for others.

As a big fan of music/film docs in general, this was average to bad and I agree on all the points in the 2nd fan review. He got good interview guests though.

I noticed that Sony blocked him from using any music which I guess is why it skims over the most important stuff LOL. Bloody Sony. Also, complete lack of clips which is essential in any documentary.

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