Timmy84 said:

seeingvoices12 said:

You cannot play "breaking news" on michaeljackson.com......they disabled the song

I say...destroy it

Are you serious?

I just went into it and it loaded it up. Hmmm.

really ?

when i click on play , it says "the video your trying to watch is currently unavailable " ,"please check back soon " .........it got played for you ? that's weird

MyLuv229 said:

greatpink said:

[img:$uid]http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab326/MesnieHellequin/000000005478.jpg[/img:$uid]

I want to know who he's talking to on the phone. It's like he wants someone to hear his throbbing. Ok, sorry... that was getting out of line. He's such a tease!

This pic is just what I need to break away from the non-stop "Breaking News" talk. I already decided a long time ago that I wouldn't buy the album.

The men in this forum might start feeling self conscious..

But yeah, finally...back to Mike. Not that other slop...

seeingvoices12 said:

Timmy84 said:

Are you serious?

I just went into it and it loaded it up. Hmmm.

really ?

when i click on play , it says "the video your trying to watch is currently unavailable " ,"please check back soon " .........it got played for you ? that's weird

Yep.

MyLuv229 said:

Whoa I'm afraid, very afraid Damn you I asked for unscary pics of MJ

[Edited 11/10/10 18:11pm]

Timmy84 said:

seeingvoices12 said:

really ?

when i click on play , it says "the video your trying to watch is currently unavailable " ,"please check back soon " .........it got played for you ? that's weird

Yep.

it still playing Or what ?

seeingvoices12 said:

Timmy84 said:

Yep.

it still playing Or what ?

Like I said it loaded up and played and I clicked backspace.

Timmy84 said:

MyLuv229 said:

What does that mean? You mean like a regular black man? You can figure that out just by watching clips of him. Yes, in most of his interviews, he speaks very softly, slowly and carefully. But when he's being candid, he'll use some slang words.

Meaning a brother or sister would act buckwild. If you ever see Charlie Murphy's recounts of Rick James, he says that about Rick being "mad niggerish" saying "it was right up my alley". That probably gives you a feeling of what Chris was talking about. Meaning Michael may have left Gary but... well you know lol

HELL YEAH...

I swear in some interviews mike sound Mad Country...

seeingvoices12 said:

Timmy84 said:

Yep.

it still playing Or what ?

It's still playing. I checked both the .au and .com versions and it's loading and playing.

Swa said:

seeingvoices12 said:

it still playing Or what ?

It's still playing. I checked both the .au and .com versions and it's loading and playing.

Totally Unrelated!

But whenever I see your org name

I always think of this

SWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

EmbattledWarrior said:

Swa said:

It's still playing. I checked both the .au and .com versions and it's loading and playing.

Totally Unrelated!

But whenever I see your org name

I always think of this

SWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Hilarious.

Timmy84 said:

Japha11 said:

But the vocals that say 'Everybody wanting a piece of Michael Jackson' are the same vocals doing EVERYTHING ELSE. Apart from the odd 'WOO', which were taken from the You Rock My World acapella. I'm sorry but nobody will EVER convince me that these are MJ's vocals. This is all bollocks.

This 'James Porte' guy is probably the guy who says 'Jackson' every now and then and I still reckon it's Jason Malachi singing or someone who sounds like him. Maybe it is James Porte, in which case it still isn't MJ. I know for a big fat fucking fact that this ain't MJ.

Still don't get how Michael Jackson 'fans' are still thinking it's him. This is the only time I question peoples 'fandom'. Sorry.

That's why I say maybe this is the guy who sang on most of the track lol if not Malachi, somebody else. And if he very much admitted to it, we got another Valerie Simpson on our hands. Valerie submitted for Tammi in her and Marvin's final duet album though Valerie still insists Tammi was on it.

RING ANY BELL?

I'm still not convinced that's MJ. Mr. Porte is the culprit he just don't wanna reveal nothing else.

As for Teddy... whatever.

ya marvin confirmed it as you know, to david ritz. There were rumours that elvis couldn't hit high notes in the studio at the time of his death and that impersonators were used (I think the Enquirer started those) easily dispelled by watching elvis sing better than he ever did at his final concerts.

mozfonky said:

Timmy84 said:

That's why I say maybe this is the guy who sang on most of the track lol if not Malachi, somebody else. And if he very much admitted to it, we got another Valerie Simpson on our hands. Valerie submitted for Tammi in her and Marvin's final duet album though Valerie still insists Tammi was on it.

RING ANY BELL?

I'm still not convinced that's MJ. Mr. Porte is the culprit he just don't wanna reveal nothing else.

As for Teddy... whatever.

ya marvin confirmed it as you know, to david ritz. There were rumours that elvis couldn't hit high notes in the studio at the time of his death and that impersonators were used (I think the Enquirer started those) easily dispelled by watching elvis sing better than he ever did at his final concerts.

Yeah I saw footage of Elvis' final concert and he was still hitting high notes even at the state he was in.

Timmy84 said:

mozfonky said:

ya marvin confirmed it as you know, to david ritz. There were rumours that elvis couldn't hit high notes in the studio at the time of his death and that impersonators were used (I think the Enquirer started those) easily dispelled by watching elvis sing better than he ever did at his final concerts.

Yeah I saw footage of Elvis' final concert and he was still hitting high notes even at the state he was in.

Yeah. Had it been today, the net would be onfire with people saying "Elvis couldn't hit high notes", "they stole that note from the album", or "he's lipsynching".

Lol.

Swa said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah I saw footage of Elvis' final concert and he was still hitting high notes even at the state he was in.

Yeah. Had it been today, the net would be onfire with people saying "Elvis couldn't hit high notes", "they stole that note from the album", or "he's lipsynching".

Lol.

Kinda similar to what's going on with Michael. Folks think his voice lost something in the '90s or in later years but as my post with the videos can attest to, he was still singing in that trademark voice of his.

Timmy84 said:

Swa said:

Yeah. Had it been today, the net would be onfire with people saying "Elvis couldn't hit high notes", "they stole that note from the album", or "he's lipsynching".

Lol.

Kinda similar to what's going on with Michael. Folks think his voice lost something in the '90s or in later years but as my post with the videos can attest to, he was still singing in that trademark voice of his.

people see and hear what they want to, I once read in a book about training in classical singing, that male singers don't fully mature until their fifties. Now, you consider the difference in genre Elvis didn't sing his Rock and Roll songs the same way as he did at 21, it's true, but when he felt like it, he could sing better than he ever could even losing the youthful innocence, the aggression that it's obvious he either didn't have or didn't produce anymore. Hearing Mike in this is it, he was obviously still Mike and his voice was fine.

Militant said:

The Estate are making an announcement tomorrow. It's been confirmed.

Damn, I go to class for 2 hours and I miss this!

bboy87 said:

Militant said:

The Estate are making an announcement tomorrow. It's been confirmed.

Damn, I go to class for 2 hours and I miss this!

Hey Militant - can we get a source for the announcement.

I can't find anything anywhere

bboy87 said:

Militant said:

The Estate are making an announcement tomorrow. It's been confirmed.

Damn, I go to class for 2 hours and I miss this!

I know your pain! Man, I had Calculus class the day MJ was announcing TII from London back in March of 2009. I rushed home right afterwards to catch the announcement. Was late..but I made it!

Aaahhh, mem'ries....

I don't think you'll miss much. Just a bunch of phoney baloney people claiming that's REALLY him on the record or some other bulls**t they want us to swallow.

[Edited 11/11/10 0:13am]

SherryJackson said:

bboy87 said:

Damn, I go to class for 2 hours and I miss this!

I know your pain! Man, I had Calculus class the day MJ was announcing TII from London back in March of 2009. I rushed home right afterwards to catch the announcement. Was late..but I made it!

Aaahhh, mem'ries....

I don't think you'll miss much. Just a bunch of phoney baloney people claiming that's REALLY him on the record or some other bulls**t they want us to swallow.

[Edited 11/11/10 0:13am]

Yeah I'm kinda thinking that's what it would be but here's to hope it isn't.

Dear Fans

As the Michael album was being put together, it was decided to bring Teddy Riley on board to work on several songs, including “Breaking News,” a song Michael recorded with Eddie Cascio and James Porte in late 2007 while living at the Cascio family home with his children. Riley produced and submitted “Breaking News” to Sony for inclusion on the album. At that time, no one ever mentioned that the vocals we heard on the Cascio songs, which were basically in demo format, might not be Michael. It was known, however, that the background vocals were a combination of Michael and James Porte.

After the tracks were submitted to Sony, three of these Cascio songs were selected to be on the album, and “Breaking News” was one of the three. The day after the submission and selection of the album tracks, for the very first time, the authenticity of Michael’s vocals on the Cascio tracks was questioned.

Because of these questions, I was immediately asked by co-Executors John Branca and John McClain to conduct an investigation regarding the authenticity of the lead vocals on the Cascio tracks.

Six of Michael’s former producers and engineers who had worked with Michael over the past 30 years - Bruce Swedien, Matt Forger, Stewart Brawley, Michael Prince, Dr. Freeze and Teddy Riley - were all invited to a listening session to hear the raw vocals of the Cascio tracks in question. All of these persons listened to the a cappella versions of the vocals on the Cascio tracks being considered for inclusion on the album, so they could give an opinion as to whether or not the lead vocals were sung by Michael. They all confirmed that the vocal was definitely Michael.

Michael’s musical director and piano player on many of his records over a 20-year period, Greg Phillinganes, played on a Cascio track being produced for the album, and said the voice was definitely Michael’s. Dorian Holley, who was Michael’s vocal director for his solo tours for 20 plus years (including the O2 Concert Tour) and is seen in the This Is It film, listened to the Cascio tracks and told me the lead vocal was Michael Jackson.

These are all engineers, producers and musicians who worked on tours and/or in the studio with Michael when he was recording Bad, Thriller, Off The Wall, Dangerous, Invincible, HIStory and Blood On The Dance Floor, and they all reconfirmed their belief that the lead vocals were Michael’s voice on the Cascio tracks.

The Estate then retained one of the best-known forensic musicologists in the nation to listen to the vocals without any instrumental accompaniment (“a cappella”), and to compare them with a cappella vocals from previous Michael songs. This expert performed waveform analysis, an objective scientific test used to determine audio authenticity, on the Cascio tracks, as well as previously released tracks with Michael’s voice, and reported that ALL of the lead vocals analyzed (which included Cascio tracks) were the voice of Michael Jackson.

Sony Music conducted their own investigation by hiring yet a second well-respected forensic musicologist who also compared the a cappella lead vocals from Cascio tracks against previously released vocals of Michael's, and found that Michael’s voice was the on all sets of the raw vocals. The Cascio tracks were also played for two very prominent persons in the music industry who played crucial roles in Michael’s career. Both of these individuals believed that the lead vocals were Michael’s.

Just to be absolutely certain, I also contacted Jason Malachi, a young singer who some persons had wrongfully alleged was a “soundalike” singer that was hired to sing on the Cascio tracks, and I confirmed that he had no involvement with this project whatsoever.

Sony decided that, given the overwhelming objective evidence resulting from the exhaustive investigations outlined above, they wanted to release a record that included three of the Cascio-Porte tracks - because they believed, without reservation, that the lead vocal on all of those tracks were sung by Michael Jackson.

Although there still seem to be concerns being expressed in some quarters about the authenticity of the lead vocals, notwithstanding the opinion of those who worked with Michael, and two independent forensic analysts, ultimately, Michael’s fans will be the judges of these songs, as they always are. We take all fan comments very seriously, and as I’d stated above, there is nothing more important to the Estate than Michael’s music, his legacy and his fans.

Michael’s fans are extraordinary in their quest for accuracy and their passions to raise their voices in a search for truth! We join with them in our care and concern for Michael. We are continuing to follow up with those who have worked in the studio or on tours with Michael, and if any new information comes to light, we will keep you and the fans advised.


Thanks,

Howard


Howard Weitzman, Esq.
Attorney for the Estate Of Michael Jackson
Santa Monica, CA

bboy87 said:

Dear Fans

As the Michael album was being put together, it was decided to bring Teddy Riley on board to work on several songs, including “Breaking News,” a song Michael recorded with Eddie Cascio and James Porte in late 2007 while living at the Cascio family home with his children. Riley produced and submitted “Breaking News” to Sony for inclusion on the album. At that time, no one ever mentioned that the vocals we heard on the Cascio songs, which were basically in demo format, might not be Michael. It was known, however, that the background vocals were a combination of Michael and James Porte.

After the tracks were submitted to Sony, three of these Cascio songs were selected to be on the album, and “Breaking News” was one of the three. The day after the submission and selection of the album tracks, for the very first time, the authenticity of Michael’s vocals on the Cascio tracks was questioned.

Because of these questions, I was immediately asked by co-Executors John Branca and John McClain to conduct an investigation regarding the authenticity of the lead vocals on the Cascio tracks.

Six of Michael’s former producers and engineers who had worked with Michael over the past 30 years - Bruce Swedien, Matt Forger, Stewart Brawley, Michael Prince, Dr. Freeze and Teddy Riley - were all invited to a listening session to hear the raw vocals of the Cascio tracks in question. All of these persons listened to the a cappella versions of the vocals on the Cascio tracks being considered for inclusion on the album, so they could give an opinion as to whether or not the lead vocals were sung by Michael. They all confirmed that the vocal was definitely Michael.

Michael’s musical director and piano player on many of his records over a 20-year period, Greg Phillinganes, played on a Cascio track being produced for the album, and said the voice was definitely Michael’s. Dorian Holley, who was Michael’s vocal director for his solo tours for 20 plus years (including the O2 Concert Tour) and is seen in the This Is It film, listened to the Cascio tracks and told me the lead vocal was Michael Jackson.

These are all engineers, producers and musicians who worked on tours and/or in the studio with Michael when he was recording Bad, Thriller, Off The Wall, Dangerous, Invincible, HIStory and Blood On The Dance Floor, and they all reconfirmed their belief that the lead vocals were Michael’s voice on the Cascio tracks.

The Estate then retained one of the best-known forensic musicologists in the nation to listen to the vocals without any instrumental accompaniment (“a cappella”), and to compare them with a cappella vocals from previous Michael songs. This expert performed waveform analysis, an objective scientific test used to determine audio authenticity, on the Cascio tracks, as well as previously released tracks with Michael’s voice, and reported that ALL of the lead vocals analyzed (which included Cascio tracks) were the voice of Michael Jackson.

Sony Music conducted their own investigation by hiring yet a second well-respected forensic musicologist who also compared the a cappella lead vocals from Cascio tracks against previously released vocals of Michael's, and found that Michael’s voice was the on all sets of the raw vocals. The Cascio tracks were also played for two very prominent persons in the music industry who played crucial roles in Michael’s career. Both of these individuals believed that the lead vocals were Michael’s.

Just to be absolutely certain, I also contacted Jason Malachi, a young singer who some persons had wrongfully alleged was a “soundalike” singer that was hired to sing on the Cascio tracks, and I confirmed that he had no involvement with this project whatsoever.

Sony decided that, given the overwhelming objective evidence resulting from the exhaustive investigations outlined above, they wanted to release a record that included three of the Cascio-Porte tracks - because they believed, without reservation, that the lead vocal on all of those tracks were sung by Michael Jackson.

Although there still seem to be concerns being expressed in some quarters about the authenticity of the lead vocals, notwithstanding the opinion of those who worked with Michael, and two independent forensic analysts, ultimately, Michael’s fans will be the judges of these songs, as they always are. We take all fan comments very seriously, and as I’d stated above, there is nothing more important to the Estate than Michael’s music, his legacy and his fans.

Michael’s fans are extraordinary in their quest for accuracy and their passions to raise their voices in a search for truth! We join with them in our care and concern for Michael. We are continuing to follow up with those who have worked in the studio or on tours with Michael, and if any new information comes to light, we will keep you and the fans advised.


Thanks,

Howard


Howard Weitzman, Esq.
Attorney for the Estate Of Michael Jackson
Santa Monica, CA

Dumbfounded.

It boggles my mind how all those professionals can say it is Michael.

I need some time away from all of this.

They're not specifically naming Breaking News...it's Cascio tracks....

now I have heard songs that are Michael's vocal so it's not like I'm totally against it. But Breaking News and Monster is not Michael 100% and I will stick with that. lol

Jay I hope you're not foold by any of this, cause you KNOW about how many used to turn their back on Mike whenever they would see fit.

NMuzakNSoul said:

They're not specifically naming Breaking News...it's Cascio tracks....

now I have heard songs that are Michael's vocal so it's not like I'm totally against it. But Breaking News and Monster is not Michael 100% and I will stick with that. lol

Jay I hope you're not foold by any of this, cause you KNOW about how many used to turn their back on Mike whenever they would see fit.

Oh I'm not fooled.

I WILL be buying the album but for the songs that without a question Michael and to support his legacy. I'm going to have to hear the Cascio tracks to fully give an opinion on them.

Breaking News and Monster seems to be the weakest tracks on the album from what I've heard. Monster sounds pretty generic

Although I understand fans boycotting the album (which MANY are doing), It would be a good idea to buy it for the songs that are DEFINITELY him

bboy87 said:

Dear Fans

As the Michael album was being put together, it was decided to bring Teddy Riley on board to work on several songs, including “Breaking News,” a song Michael recorded with Eddie Cascio and James Porte in late 2007 while living at the Cascio family home with his children. Riley produced and submitted “Breaking News” to Sony for inclusion on the album. At that time, no one ever mentioned that the vocals we heard on the Cascio songs, which were basically in demo format, might not be Michael. It was known, however, that the background vocals were a combination of Michael and James Porte.

After the tracks were submitted to Sony, three of these Cascio songs were selected to be on the album, and “Breaking News” was one of the three. The day after the submission and selection of the album tracks, for the very first time, the authenticity of Michael’s vocals on the Cascio tracks was questioned.

Because of these questions, I was immediately asked by co-Executors John Branca and John McClain to conduct an investigation regarding the authenticity of the lead vocals on the Cascio tracks.

Six of Michael’s former producers and engineers who had worked with Michael over the past 30 years - Bruce Swedien, Matt Forger, Stewart Brawley, Michael Prince, Dr. Freeze and Teddy Riley - were all invited to a listening session to hear the raw vocals of the Cascio tracks in question. All of these persons listened to the a cappella versions of the vocals on the Cascio tracks being considered for inclusion on the album, so they could give an opinion as to whether or not the lead vocals were sung by Michael. They all confirmed that the vocal was definitely Michael.

Michael’s musical director and piano player on many of his records over a 20-year period, Greg Phillinganes, played on a Cascio track being produced for the album, and said the voice was definitely Michael’s. Dorian Holley, who was Michael’s vocal director for his solo tours for 20 plus years (including the O2 Concert Tour) and is seen in the This Is It film, listened to the Cascio tracks and told me the lead vocal was Michael Jackson.

These are all engineers, producers and musicians who worked on tours and/or in the studio with Michael when he was recording Bad, Thriller, Off The Wall, Dangerous, Invincible, HIStory and Blood On The Dance Floor, and they all reconfirmed their belief that the lead vocals were Michael’s voice on the Cascio tracks.

The Estate then retained one of the best-known forensic musicologists in the nation to listen to the vocals without any instrumental accompaniment (“a cappella”), and to compare them with a cappella vocals from previous Michael songs. This expert performed waveform analysis, an objective scientific test used to determine audio authenticity, on the Cascio tracks, as well as previously released tracks with Michael’s voice, and reported that ALL of the lead vocals analyzed (which included Cascio tracks) were the voice of Michael Jackson.

Sony Music conducted their own investigation by hiring yet a second well-respected forensic musicologist who also compared the a cappella lead vocals from Cascio tracks against previously released vocals of Michael's, and found that Michael’s voice was the on all sets of the raw vocals. The Cascio tracks were also played for two very prominent persons in the music industry who played crucial roles in Michael’s career. Both of these individuals believed that the lead vocals were Michael’s.

Just to be absolutely certain, I also contacted Jason Malachi, a young singer who some persons had wrongfully alleged was a “soundalike” singer that was hired to sing on the Cascio tracks, and I confirmed that he had no involvement with this project whatsoever.

Sony decided that, given the overwhelming objective evidence resulting from the exhaustive investigations outlined above, they wanted to release a record that included three of the Cascio-Porte tracks - because they believed, without reservation, that the lead vocal on all of those tracks were sung by Michael Jackson.

Although there still seem to be concerns being expressed in some quarters about the authenticity of the lead vocals, notwithstanding the opinion of those who worked with Michael, and two independent forensic analysts, ultimately, Michael’s fans will be the judges of these songs, as they always are. We take all fan comments very seriously, and as I’d stated above, there is nothing more important to the Estate than Michael’s music, his legacy and his fans.

Michael’s fans are extraordinary in their quest for accuracy and their passions to raise their voices in a search for truth! We join with them in our care and concern for Michael. We are continuing to follow up with those who have worked in the studio or on tours with Michael, and if any new information comes to light, we will keep you and the fans advised.


Thanks,

Howard


Howard Weitzman, Esq.
Attorney for the Estate Of Michael Jackson
Santa Monica, CA

A Joke!

It's their word against the Jackson family's word. It's not just the fans that have been concerned about it. Let's not forget that even his own son denied their authenticity - he's old enough to be considered at least a somewhat trustworthy witness of what has happened. If what I've read of it so far has been correct, he has said that the songs on the forthcoming album aren't the same what he heard.

We already knew these people were the ones that were claiming they were authentic. The only new surprises here are the "professionals" like Bruce Swedien and Dr. Freeze and the vocal coach. Bruce Swedien is half-deaf by this point from what I've understood, but it does seem baffling that he would confirm them as authentic. It is also possible that they've played the tracks also to many more individuals than those that have gotten mentioned, but aren't mentioning the ones that didn't agree on their authenticity. However, like pointed out before me, they're simply speaking of the source tracks in that statement. We already know there were people present during the later sessions who questioned the authenticity of the tracks. So, calling what they had "overwhelming evidence" seems like a deliberately misleading expression.

Taryll Jackson already stated that there was a track called "Breaking News" with Michael Jackson's vocals that they were working on in the studio, but what we got to hear on the website isn't it. I have no reason to doubt his words. What would he gain from lying? They might have played to the professionals what they originally had, bits and pieces of unfinished recordings. We're only hearing the finished product with completed verses and choruses. We should hear the comments on the finished product, not what they had to say on the source material. I couldn't give a flying fuck about what Bruce Swedien or Greg Phillinganes said about the original recordings, let's hear it from themselves what they think of the finished product. This has been about what we hear on the track having gotten released.

[Edited 11/11/10 3:21am]

Hey everyone,

Sorry I'm digressing but...

thought I'd post this on here, as I know there are a lot of MJ fans here.

We're hosting another MJ night at the end of the month in Brighton, U.K. The last few have been great and they're always attended by lots of fans, so show the L.O.V.E. and come along!

Here's the info:

Michael Jackson - Christmas Celebration

Sat 27 Nov 9.00pm @ The Western Front until 28 November 2010 £4 / £3 NUS

Here's the Facebook page with all the full details:

http://www.facebook.com/#...8910535609

Hope some of you can make it.

B.

Now we just need some nice Sony insider to leak the full tracks in dispute

My previous comment in short:

They're giving us information only on the source tracks in that statement.

We've been concerned about the finished product all along.