Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:

Bruh....

-we got a new song out and it's Michael but it's not Michael

-A new album and nobody knows who's singing on the album

-Taj Taryll and TJ vs The Cascios and Teddy Riley

-We got Katherine saying she wanted to believe Michael wasn't addicted to drugs but believes he was, although she said she never saw anything out of the ordinary in her previous interview

-Joe still saying he never beat his kids

-Katherine doing business with shady ass Howard Mann and Marc Shaffel

-Teddy Riley calling a fan a bitch and a slut on Twitter

-Jason Malachi going into hiding

-Rodney Jerkins saying the song doesn't sound like Michael

So much fuckery in such a small frame of time

WHAT THE FUCK!?

you didn't know?!

Ole boy told a fan "Shut the fuck bitch" and then proceeded to call her a slut

Like damn, did Aaron Hall hack into Ted's account?

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

WHAT THE FUCK!?

you didn't know?!

Ole boy told a fan "Shut the fuck bitch" and then proceeded to call her a slut

Like damn, did Aaron Hall hack into Ted's account?

I'm not on Twitter as much anymore so I didn't know.

@ "did Aaron Hall hack into Ted's account?" Well Teddy said they were working on the Guy project so it's a REAL GOOD POSSIBILITY Aaron could've posted something to defend his friend.

[Edited 11/8/10 15:34pm]

murph said:

Unholyalliance said:

lol Didn't know that you were so familiar with the Jackson family to make such statements.

Who has to be familiar with anything concerning the family....I'm going by the reputation of Ms. Jackson....Just because she is candid about some things does not make her a monster... I get that a lot of the more hardcore MJ fans don't want to hear anything negative about Mike...But let's chill with the tar and feather routine...It's not that serious...

Just leave Run

Vanilli said:

bboy87 said:

Bruh....

-we got a new song out and it's Michael but it's not Michael

-A new album and nobody knows who's singing on the album

-Taj Taryll and TJ vs The Cascios and Teddy Riley

-We got Katherine saying she wanted to believe Michael wasn't addicted to drugs but believes he was, although she said she never saw anything out of the ordinary in her previous interview

-Joe still saying he never beat his kids

-Katherine doing business with shady ass Howard Mann and Marc Shaffel

-Teddy Riley calling a fan a bitch and a slut on Twitter

-Jason Malachi going into hiding

-Rodney Jerkins saying the song doesn't sound like Michael

So much fuckery in such a small frame of time

Thanks SO much for the recap bboy. You and Timmy are simply the best!

Gosh, these past few days have felt like the ultimate episodes of daytime soap

opera TV. Tune in tomorrow to discover how Debbie Rowe was involved in

the background vocals for the songs produced by Dark Child that didn't make

the final cut for the "new" album.

One serious question:

Any word from MJdata bank beyond their statement yet?

Now that would be real stupid if this really happened!

I'm telling you this gets more complicated (and stupid) by the minute. LAWD JEEBUS!

Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:

Michael Jackson's Kids, Parents Join Oprah: Talk Plastic Surgery, Beatings and…French Toast?

It was a morning of firsts on the Oprah Winfrey Show.

For the first time, Katherine Jackson admitted that her son was addicted to plastic surgery. For the first time, after much umbrage taken with the term, Joe Jackson admitted that he beat his children. And for the first time, thanks to daughter Paris, the world learned about Michael Jackson's hidden talent.

Namely, making French toast.

MORE: Is the new Michael single legit?

The wide-ranging interview took place at the Jackson's Encino compound, and while it started out with Katherine, the duo was soon joined by Joe, then Paris, Prince Michael and the exceeding shy (yet pretty adorable) Blanket, along with the other Jackson kids that live at the house.

But mostly, it was about Michael, and while the topic of his controversial single and upcoming Sony album was not even remotely touched upon (the sitdown took place several weeks ago), Katherine did explain why she chose to release a book about her son, Never Can Say Goodbye.

"I wanted to do it for his fans and for the people that misunderstood him…I think of my son all through the day, all the time. I don't like to talk about him because I…," she said, tearing up. "It comes to my mind everyday, yes it does."

Despite the hardship clearly evident in discussing her son's life, Katherine didn't shy away from the talking points about her son, and proceeded to handle every question thrown at her.

First up: plastic surgery. Katherine said that Michael hated his appearance beginning in adolescence and one day announced he would be getting a nose job.

"He didn't want to start looking 'like a spotted cow,' he said," Katherine explained of his multiple skin surgeries to treat his vitiligo. "I don't know what in the world he did to change that, but he did."

As for Michael's claim on Oprah several years ago that he only ever underwent two surgeries in his life, both on his nose, Katherine said, "He had more than two, he was just embarrassed."

"I hear that people get addicted to plastic surgery, and I think that's what happened to him. I said, that's enough."

Though neither he nor his plastic surgeon, with whom Katherine also had a word, listened.

Next up for talking points, Michael's marriage to Lisa Marie Presley.

"It was a surprise for me, he called me after he had married her," Katherine said, saying that Michael put Lisa Marie on the phone to speak with her, though she didn't believe at first that she was actually talking to Presley.

"She had a heavy voice and I didn't know that," she said, adding in a whisper (and yielding some laughs from Winfrey), "She sounded like a black girl."

The majority of the interview, however, was spent discussing Michael's death on June 25, and the life choices that led to that tragic day.

"The worst day of my life," a teary Katherine began. "My heart dropped. And so they called me and said come to the hospital. Michael's in the hospital."

She said that she had an immediate feeling that he might be dead, but that nobody would tell her anything for some time.

"I kind of felt it, but I was wishing that it wouldn't be…They made the doctor tell me. The doctor had to tell us…Dr. Murray."

Yes, that would be Dr. Conrad Murray.

"He came out, and he was talking and it took him so long." Finally, Katherine asked, "Did he make it?"

"He said, 'No, he's gone.' That's all I remember," she said, tearing up. "I'm sorry."

As for Murray, who is facing an involuntary manslaughter charge for Jackson, Katherine said she's thought "a thousand times" what she would say to him.

"Why didn't he take care of my child? Why did he give that [propofol] to him? It's very dangerous, why did he do it?

"I can't accuse him of murder, I don't know if it was accidentally done or it was intentionally done. I don't want to get into that, but I have my thoughts…I don't think I'll ever, ever be healed….It hurts."

Also hurtful was Michael's drug addiction, which he continually denied, even as the family attempted to hold an intervention.

"I spoke to him about [drugs] once, when I had heard it and he denied it. I was telling him I didn't want to one day hear that he had overdosed because it would break my heart…He kept saying, 'My own mother don't believe me.'

"Part of me wanted to believe him, but I didn't believe him."

Katherine said that the hardships in Michael's life led to his addiction, specifically naming his trial for child-molestation as a turning point.

"All his life he had to go through stuff like this and it was trying on him," she said, adding that she never once questioned his innocence. "'I'd rather slit my own wrists than hurt a child,' he'd always say that."

The duo was then joined by Joe Jackson, and both he and Katherine insisted, despite nearly universal beliefs to the contrary, that they were divorced.

Oprah wasted no time in pressing him on his relationship with Michael, particularly his child's claims that he was severely beaten as a boy, something which Joe has always denied.

And today was no different, though this time around, Katherine had had just about enough.

"I don't think he was afraid of me," Joe began. "I never beat him. That never happened."

"You might as well admit it, that's the way black people raised their children," Katherine interjected. "He used a strap."

That settles that, then.

"I don't [regret the beatings]," Joe said. "It kept them out of jail and kept them right."

Oprah then gathered all the children together to chat about their father and their current life.

Paris and Prince Michael are now enrolled in regular school (with eyes toward being an actress and music and movie producer, respectively), though Blanket, the most shy of the bunch, is still being home schooled. However, that might change next year, when he will be ready to enter the fourth grade.

The children were asked about their childhoods, in particular going out in public with masks and veils on their heads—something Katherine noted earlier was not Michael's idea, but actually the brainchild of the kids' biological mother Debbie Rowe.

None of them seemed to have any problem with the unusual disguises.

"When we did go out without our dad, other people wouldn't recognize us," Paris explained. "He tried to raise us without [us] knowing who he was, but that didn't go so well."

"I kinda felt like no one understands what a good father he was," she said. "I'd say he was the best cook ever. He was just a normal dad, except he was the best dad.

"He made the best French toast in the world." Who knew?

"A day doesn't pass," Katherine said. "Sometimes I just hate myself for thinking about it. It's something I just can't help. I think about it with a smile sometimes. Things he used to do when he was a little boy. He always stays on my mind. His memory is with me. They can never take that away
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http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b210010_michael_jacksons_kids_parents_join.html

I just think months back and Katherine denied Michael was an addict (to some degree), now this. I didn't look at the entire interview but now I see what she said, interesting how she's suddenly putting this out. And she can't quite say that Murray murdered her pride and joy. Hmmm, I just hope the fams don't do anything foolish like make a thread about how they hate Katherine. I get it we're angry but damn I just wonder sometimes.

Hate Katherine? No business being an MJ fan if they do. This woman is reflecting and she's allowed any damn opinion. She can change her mind all day long as far as i'm concerned. She gave up most of her family for a long time in her life and certainly gave us a wonderful gift in Mike.

Marrk said:

Timmy84 said:

I just think months back and Katherine denied Michael was an addict (to some degree), now this. I didn't look at the entire interview but now I see what she said, interesting how she's suddenly putting this out. And she can't quite say that Murray murdered her pride and joy. Hmmm, I just hope the fams don't do anything foolish like make a thread about how they hate Katherine. I get it we're angry but damn I just wonder sometimes.

Hate Katherine? No business being an MJ fan if they do. This woman is reflecting and she's allowed any damn opinion. She can change her mind all day long as far as i'm concerned. She gave up most of her family for a long time in her life and certainly gave us a wonderful gift in Mike.

I agree , that's his mother if you agree with her or not .

Marrk said:

Timmy84 said:

I just think months back and Katherine denied Michael was an addict (to some degree), now this. I didn't look at the entire interview but now I see what she said, interesting how she's suddenly putting this out. And she can't quite say that Murray murdered her pride and joy. Hmmm, I just hope the fams don't do anything foolish like make a thread about how they hate Katherine. I get it we're angry but damn I just wonder sometimes.

Hate Katherine? No business being an MJ fan if they do. This woman is reflecting and she's allowed any damn opinion. She can change her mind all day long as far as i'm concerned. She gave up most of her family for a long time in her life and certainly gave us a wonderful gift in Mike.

Yeah I know lol

But I wouldn't be surprised if some "fans" actually do that. I don't put it past them. Especially the loon-boons.

Timmy84 said:

Marrk said:

Hate Katherine? No business being an MJ fan if they do. This woman is reflecting and she's allowed any damn opinion. She can change her mind all day long as far as i'm concerned. She gave up most of her family for a long time in her life and certainly gave us a wonderful gift in Mike.

Yeah I know lol

But I wouldn't be surprised if some "fans" actually do that. I don't put it past them. Especially the loon-boons.

They into deep , they need to fall back and just stick with the music.

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

WHAT THE FUCK!?

you didn't know?!

Ole boy told a fan "Shut the fuck bitch" and then proceeded to call her a slut

Like damn, did Aaron Hall hack into Ted's account?

I read that this morning like...what. Gonna bring out another rockband guitar???

NMuzakNSoul said:

bboy87 said:

you didn't know?!

Ole boy told a fan "Shut the fuck bitch" and then proceeded to call her a slut

Like damn, did Aaron Hall hack into Ted's account?

I read that this morning like...what. Gonna bring out another rockband guitar???

Why are they not using michael's vocals , how does the song sound I didn't hear it yet.

babybugz said:

Why are they not using michael's vocals , how does the song sound I didn't hear it yet.

In my opinion, it's not a horrible song... but it's missing one important thing: Michael Jackson. There are a few "owws" from Mike, but other than that, I can't hear him. There's even (what I believe to be) fake "hee-hees" in there.

The beat itself is ok, but it's missing MJ's lush backing vocals and if this were his track, he'd have incorporated his beatboxing into the music of the track. His beatboxing would have became an instrument on the song.

I have listened to it a dozen times since last night and try as I might, I can't hear Mike in there anywhere. Some people think its him, fair enough.

I don’t understand the point of putting an album out and not actually using Michael’s vocals, if the songs are not finish or decent what’s the point. To make a quick buck ? At least use the real Michael.

Superstition said:

babybugz said:

Why are they not using michael's vocals , how does the song sound I didn't hear it yet.

In my opinion, it's not a horrible song... but it's missing one important thing: Michael Jackson. There are a few "owws" from Mike, but other than that, I can't hear him. There's even (what I believe to be) fake "hee-hees" in there.

The beat itself is ok, but it's missing MJ's lush backing vocals and if this were his track, he'd have incorporated his beatboxing into the music of the track. His beatboxing would have became an instrument on the song.

I have listened to it a dozen times since last night and try as I might, I can't hear Mike in there anywhere. Some people think its him, fair enough.

Exactly. And then if you listen to the numerous of Jason Malachi songs out there on YouTube put m next to Breaking News...it's even more obvious.

Just go to the site, it plays automatically or redirects you to hear it.

http://breakingnews.michaeljackson.com/

NMuzakNSoul said:

Superstition said:

In my opinion, it's not a horrible song... but it's missing one important thing: Michael Jackson. There are a few "owws" from Mike, but other than that, I can't hear him. There's even (what I believe to be) fake "hee-hees" in there.

The beat itself is ok, but it's missing MJ's lush backing vocals and if this were his track, he'd have incorporated his beatboxing into the music of the track. His beatboxing would have became an instrument on the song.

I have listened to it a dozen times since last night and try as I might, I can't hear Mike in there anywhere. Some people think its him, fair enough.

Exactly. And then if you listen to the numerous of Jason Malachi songs out there on YouTube put m next to Breaking News...it's even more obvious.

Yep. So many elements are missing. Michael wouldn't dare release a track without him beatboxing on it!

Superstition said:

babybugz said:

Why are they not using michael's vocals , how does the song sound I didn't hear it yet.

In my opinion, it's not a horrible song... but it's missing one important thing: Michael Jackson. There are a few "owws" from Mike, but other than that, I can't hear him. There's even (what I believe to be) fake "hee-hees" in there.

The beat itself is ok, but it's missing MJ's lush backing vocals and if this were his track, he'd have incorporated his beatboxing into the music of the track. His beatboxing would have became an instrument on the song.

I have listened to it a dozen times since last night and try as I might, I can't hear Mike in there anywhere. Some people think its him, fair enough.

I'm waiting for the guy in your avatars opinion, but i think i know his answer already.

What I dont understand is why even release THIS song, considering there are doubts. I mean I'm sure there are other songs on the album that ARE MJ and have a more distinguishable sound, so why put out a track that they knew people were gonna have doubts about? Sounds like a stunt to me!

Marrk said:

Superstition said:

In my opinion, it's not a horrible song... but it's missing one important thing: Michael Jackson. There are a few "owws" from Mike, but other than that, I can't hear him. There's even (what I believe to be) fake "hee-hees" in there.

The beat itself is ok, but it's missing MJ's lush backing vocals and if this were his track, he'd have incorporated his beatboxing into the music of the track. His beatboxing would have became an instrument on the song.

I have listened to it a dozen times since last night and try as I might, I can't hear Mike in there anywhere. Some people think its him, fair enough.

I'm waiting for the guy in your avatars opinion, but i think i know his answer already.

Yeah, can't fool Stevie ever. His musicial hearing is superb. We know what he'll say if he heard it, then be played Malachi...

TheBoyfromtheBand said:

What I dont understand is why even release THIS song, considering there are doubts. I mean I'm sure there are other songs on the album that ARE MJ and have a more distinguishable sound, so why put out a track that they knew people were gonna have doubts about? Sounds like a stunt to me!

Of course. They did this on purpose too. And they're trying to act sincere. Fuck outta here lol

Timmy84 said:

NMuzakNSoul said:

Exactly. And then if you listen to the numerous of Jason Malachi songs out there on YouTube put m next to Breaking News...it's even more obvious.

Yep. So many elements are missing. Michael wouldn't dare release a track without him beatboxing on it!

X to the actlay.

NMuzakNSoul said:

Marrk said:

I'm waiting for the guy in your avatars opinion, but i think i know his answer already.

Yeah, can't fool Stevie ever. His musicial hearing is superb. We know what he'll say if he heard it, then be played Malachi...

Of course Stevie would know. The guy's got a great ear. He'd probably listening to it now going "that ain't Michael!" IN FACT, I want Michael's Motown colleagues (Diana, Mary Wilson, Smokey's ass, Berry's ass, etc.) and post what they think and if they all say:

"That's not the Michael I know. Someone's faking it here."

I'm gonna laugh!

It sound like they mixed vocals together with somebody else's. The start of it sound like him but than it don't , if that's him he went in another direction with the music. 2000 watts was like that to me.

Marrk said:

Superstition said:

In my opinion, it's not a horrible song... but it's missing one important thing: Michael Jackson. There are a few "owws" from Mike, but other than that, I can't hear him. There's even (what I believe to be) fake "hee-hees" in there.

The beat itself is ok, but it's missing MJ's lush backing vocals and if this were his track, he'd have incorporated his beatboxing into the music of the track. His beatboxing would have became an instrument on the song.

I have listened to it a dozen times since last night and try as I might, I can't hear Mike in there anywhere. Some people think its him, fair enough.

I'm waiting for the guy in your avatars opinion, but i think i know his answer already.

I'm starting to wonder if this was a "test". Something tells me Breaking News won't even be on the album now

NMuzakNSoul said:

Timmy84 said:

Yep. So many elements are missing. Michael wouldn't dare release a track without him beatboxing on it!

X to the actlay.

I know some folks think we're losing our minds over this but if you listen to him long enough, you can tell what's real and what's not. I ain't stupid, it's like don't tell me there's no shit on my plate when I can clearly see it and smell it on my plate.

[Edited 11/8/10 15:59pm]

I feel bad for katherine, she has a need to protect joe and is too far along in her life to walk away now

but I feel so upset about everything mj related now and wish I could walk away, but I love him so much, more than life itself sometimes and I hate admitting that...it hurts me to see her so sad and in pain over her son, regardless of what she says or doesn't say.

About the song, I like it but I'm confused about the vocals too

alphastreet said:

I feel bad for katherine, she has a need to protect joe and is too far along in her life to walk away now

but I feel so upset about everything mj related now and wish I could walk away, but I love him so much, more than life itself sometimes and I hate admitting that...it hurts me to see her so sad and in pain over her son, regardless of what she says or doesn't say.

About the song, I like it but I'm confused about the vocals too

I didn't even have to see it. It's the pain of burying someone that is supposed to bury you. Imagine how you would feel as a parent if your child suddenly dies. It's that pain that never goes away. It's natural and I feel her pain, I really do.

bboy87 said:

Marrk said:

I'm waiting for the guy in your avatars opinion, but i think i know his answer already.

I'm starting to wonder if this was a "test". Something tells me Breaking News won't even be on the album now

That's what I was saying all along. No way would they put this on the album now. I would hope that's the case and not Sony acting real stupid.

You see what I mean when I say i'm not excited for this album

I like the song just don't know who singing this lmao .