Marrk said:

Alarm bells rang when i heard just that snippet. Really if FONY are already barrel scraping with this deal where does that leave future MJ albums? wasn't the deal for 10 or something?

no. The estate secured a $250M contract for ten projects, including the Michael album, a video game and the reissue (another one) of the Off The Wall album.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10507085/BN.mp3

Pitch of the Ad-libs raised to 3%

This part is definetely MJ

Timmy84 said:

dag said:

Watching the bit of the interview with the kids reminds me of a Mike´s quote from that Schmuley book where he asked him if he was more protective over Paris because she´s a girl and he said no, she´s tough, she can fight for herself and that you can do pretty much anything with Prince. He was right, I guess. I am not sure if you can really do anything with Prince, but Paris is strong and fighting. She´s so sweet.

Paris on the other hand could cut a motherfucker if you talk shady about her daddy.

Timmy84 said:

dag said:

Watching the bit of the interview with the kids reminds me of a Mike´s quote from that Schmuley book where he asked him if he was more protective over Paris because she´s a girl and he said no, she´s tough, she can fight for herself and that you can do pretty much anything with Prince. He was right, I guess. I am not sure if you can really do anything with Prince, but Paris is strong and fighting. She´s so sweet.

Prince seems very sensitive, I noticed that at the Grammys. Paris on the other hand could cut a motherfucker if you talk shady about her daddy. Blanket sounds like he could be a mixture of his brother and sister.

Yeah, . I can´t wait to see Blanket though. He allegedly complained that he was always disciplined for everything while Prince got away with stuff.

BabyBeMine said:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10507085/BN.mp3

Pitch of the Ad-libs raised to 3%

This part is definetely MJ

The ad-libs are copy and pasted from elsewhere, I'm pretty sure there's a sample from Captain EO on there somewhere. I'm not listening again to that. Ever.

http://gyantunplugged.com...t-for-mjs/

130 min teddy comes in and talks about jason melachi ( i believe) he didnt call him out full but said jm did a song , the same song ...

just listen to it

kibbles said:

NaughtyKitty said:

So...we have Sony releasing Breaking News online today, and the Jackson family & MJ3 saying its a fake. And then we have the big Jackson family + MJ3 interview on Oprah today as well. Coincidental timimg?

do we know for certain that MJ3 said that? i've heard that 'sources say' over at tmz that they said it, but unless they've release some sort of statement, how do we know they actually said it?

i'm sorry, but i don't trust taj as a source. remember, he didn't even know MJ3 were talking to orca - i mean, that fat cow oprah. have any of his tweets stated that the kids said they didn't think it was their father's voice? i know he and his brothers have been running their mouths about this s*it, complaining that the cascios didn't answer their questions or give them straight answers. whatever. i'm sure the cascios could care less what 3T think about them - they're about to get straight up paid!

That's the $100,000 dollar question. No we don't know for sure that they did say that, but its been reported as fact that they said those vocals are not really MJ's vocals. Lawd, way too much drama for one day

Timmy84 said:

dag said:

Still, they´re gonna see it one day.

Yep. And that's what sucks about it. Now I keep thinking "maybe they would've been better off with Diana Ross."

[Edited 11/8/10 11:38am]

Nah...they those kids are in the right hands.....Mrs. Jackson is not exactly saying anything earth-shattering or shocking.....She and Janet were the two biggest voices in the Jackson family who were genuinely trying to get MJ some help.... Now it would be a different story if Mrs. Jackson came out and said MJ was a child molester.... But saying he was addicted to plastic surgery is quite clear....And this doesn't take away from MJ's greatness....To me it makes him more human...

motownlover said:

http://gyantunplugged.com...t-for-mjs/

130 min teddy comes in and talks about jason melachi ( i believe) he didnt call him out full but said jm did a song , the same song ...

just listen to it

So basically he just admitted the song that's streaming is not Michael.

Woke up this morning and the same discussions going on, lol.

Give it time people. The truth will come out one way or another.

Some will be right. Some will be wrong.

If I'm wrong in my assessment I'll admit it.

Listening to it again this morning I still say it's 80% MJ with others on accent words eg "JACKSON" and backing vocals / harmonies.

If i'm wrong you'll read it hear first

BTW that isn't Teddy on the radio interview (joke)

Oh and important to note that TR said he wasn't paid for this job - so he has nothing to defend but his own integrity.

Swa said:

Woke up this morning and the same discussions going on, lol.

Give it time people. The truth will come out one way or another.

Some will be right. Some will be wrong.

If I'm wrong in my assessment I'll admit it.

Listening to it again this morning I still say it's 80% MJ with others on accent words eg "JACKSON" and backing vocals / harmonies.

If i'm wrong you'll read it hear first

BTW that isn't Teddy on the radio interview (joke)

Oh and important to note that TR said he wasn't paid for this job - so he has nothing to defend but his own integrity.

That was JM.

Timmy84 said:

motownlover said:

http://gyantunplugged.com...t-for-mjs/

130 min teddy comes in and talks about jason melachi ( i believe) he didnt call him out full but said jm did a song , the same song ...

just listen to it

So basically he just admitted the song that's streaming is not Michael.

Losing respect for Teddy rapidly, 'Greedy People' getting MJ's money? What the hell is he doing? I'm guessing he's getting paid as a producer on this track and will forevermore if it's released. He's added to this fraud.

I can not believe this mess.

Marrk said:

Timmy84 said:

So basically he just admitted the song that's streaming is not Michael.

Losing respect for Teddy rapidly, 'Greedy People' getting MJ's money? What the hell is he doing? I'm guessing he's getting paid as a producer on this track and will forevermore if it's released. He's added to this fraud.

I can not believe this mess.

Yeah he just adds to the confusion.

He's not getting paid then? Still does nothing for his integrity imo. Fraud, lies and cheating.

Rodney says it doesn't sound like Mike to him..

http://twitter.com/ONLY1DARKCHILD

Swa said:

Woke up this morning and the same discussions going on, lol.

Give it time people. The truth will come out one way or another.

Some will be right. Some will be wrong.

If I'm wrong in my assessment I'll admit it.

Listening to it again this morning I still say it's 80% MJ with others on accent words eg "JACKSON" and backing vocals / harmonies.

If i'm wrong you'll read it hear first

BTW that isn't Teddy on the radio interview (joke)

Oh and important to note that TR said he wasn't paid for this job - so he has nothing to defend but his own integrity.

Then at the least check out jason malachi and his songs on Youtube and his vocals and put m next to Breaking News for me....

Timmy84 said:

motownlover said:

http://gyantunplugged.com...t-for-mjs/

130 min teddy comes in and talks about jason melachi ( i believe) he didnt call him out full but said jm did a song , the same song ...

just listen to it

So basically he just admitted the song that's streaming is not Michael.

Not correct Timmy.

Here is verbatim what was said.

TR: Everyone including who we talking about is bickering and fighting over Michael.

TR: These vocals are Michael Jackson. All the professionals and a musicologist went in and they all say it's Michael, including me. We worked with Michael, we been in the studio with Michael.

None of them (the family) have been in the studio with Michael for 25 years.

On this album I'm credited as the finisher.

The person that is really trying to stir this all up is JM. (John McClain)

He's challenging me cause he mixed the same record - now this is a guy who is head of the estate. And he challenged me cause I worked in the studio and I said I can't work in here... I felt uncomfortable and when I left the studio he assigned another producer to mix and remix the same songs that I worked on and my songs beat him.

Now all of a sudden [they're claiming] it's not Michael's voice - why cause he's mixes didn't make it.

So this is a smear campaign?

TR: Yes it is. The thing about it is... they will lose.

He goes on to say he personally has heard about 50 records [songs] and most are like Michael laying down a first verse and a chorus - no second first. And that the NEXT album coming is going to be a "duet" album - implying the songwriters/artists will write the second verse and build on the song.

PYTDee said:

Rodney says it doesn't sound like Mike to him..

http://twitter.com/ONLY1DARKCHILD

The plot thickens.

murph said:

Timmy84 said:

Yep. And that's what sucks about it. Now I keep thinking "maybe they would've been better off with Diana Ross."

[Edited 11/8/10 11:38am]

Nah...they those kids are in the right hands.....Mrs. Jackson is not exactly saying anything earth-shattering or shocking.....She and Janet were the two biggest voices in the Jackson family who were genuinely trying to get MJ some help.... Now it would be a different story if Mrs. Jackson came out and said MJ was a child molester.... But saying he was addicted to plastic surgery is quite clear....And this doesn't take away from MJ's greatness....To me it makes him more human...

lol Didn't know that you were so familiar with the Jackson family to make such statements.

Swa said:

Timmy84 said:

So basically he just admitted the song that's streaming is not Michael.

Not correct Timmy.

Here is verbatim what was said.

TR: Everyone including who we talking about is bickering and fighting over Michael.

TR: These vocals are Michael Jackson. All the professionals and a musicologist went in and they all say it's Michael, including me. We worked with Michael, we been in the studio with Michael.

None of them (the family) have been in the studio with Michael for 25 years.

On this album I'm credited as the finisher.

The person that is really trying to stir this all up is JM. (John McClain)

He's challenging me cause he mixed the same record - now this is a guy who is head of the estate. And he challenged me cause I worked in the studio and I said I can't work in here... I felt uncomfortable and when I left the studio he assigned another producer to mix and remix the same songs that I worked on and my songs beat him.

Now all of a sudden [they're claiming] it's not Michael's voice - why cause he's mixes didn't make it.

So this is a smear campaign?

TR: Yes it is. The thing about it is... they will lose.

He goes on to say he personally has heard about 50 records [songs] and most are like Michael laying down a first verse and a chorus - no second first. And that the NEXT album coming is going to be a "duet" album - implying the songwriters/artists will write the second verse and build on the song.

And how does he know John McClain (the same man who helped shape the future of Janet's music career) is sabotaging the project?

Swa said:

He goes on to say he personally has heard about 50 records [songs] and most are like Michael laying down a first verse and a chorus - no second first. And that the NEXT album coming is going to be a "duet" album - implying the songwriters/artists will write the second verse and build on the song.

'Beat It 25 Feat. Fergie' anyone? An album like that with worse songs. Awesome

Live Stream of the Oprah show

http://www.mjnewsalerts.com/oprah/

Timmy84 said:

Swa said:

Not correct Timmy.

Here is verbatim what was said.

TR: Everyone including who we talking about is bickering and fighting over Michael.

TR: These vocals are Michael Jackson. All the professionals and a musicologist went in and they all say it's Michael, including me. We worked with Michael, we been in the studio with Michael.

None of them (the family) have been in the studio with Michael for 25 years.

On this album I'm credited as the finisher.

The person that is really trying to stir this all up is JM. (John McClain)

He's challenging me cause he mixed the same record - now this is a guy who is head of the estate. And he challenged me cause I worked in the studio and I said I can't work in here... I felt uncomfortable and when I left the studio he assigned another producer to mix and remix the same songs that I worked on and my songs beat him.

Now all of a sudden [they're claiming] it's not Michael's voice - why cause he's mixes didn't make it.

So this is a smear campaign?

TR: Yes it is. The thing about it is... they will lose.

He goes on to say he personally has heard about 50 records [songs] and most are like Michael laying down a first verse and a chorus - no second first. And that the NEXT album coming is going to be a "duet" album - implying the songwriters/artists will write the second verse and build on the song.

And how does he know John McClain (the same man who helped shape the future of Janet's music career) is sabotaging the project?

I'm just quoting what he said and clearing up the JM he referenced.

He says that John McClain brought him in to work on tracks - and there was conflict. So Teddy left the studio and worked elsewhere. In conjunction John McClain worked on the tracks with his own mixes and basically McClain is pissed because his mixes didn't get chosen by the record company.

He's saying McClain is stirring shit up and trying to smear Teddy's name (potentially to get him off future projects).

watching oprah and things i have 2 flat out laugh at

Joe - i keep hearing his music at the casino's and it brings back memories cause i was at every recording

JOE REALLY? SERIOUSLY NOW?

oprah - did u whip ur kids?

katherine- that's how blacks raised their kids (AMEN THAT'S HOW MY GRANDMOTHER AND PARENTS RAISED ME!!)

oprah - looking back would u have strapped them differently?

BITCH DIDN'T U ALREADY ASKED THE QUESTION?

EmbattledWarrior said:

BabyBeMine said:

Do you have any clips of MJ at 49 years old singing faster tracks. The songs you posted are slow.

No evidence of older MJ singing faster

What...

The...

Fuck....

I know huh? I mean............. What does it take lol The guy singing is NOT Michael Jackson. I'm a lifelong fan. I KNOW that mans voice.

Swa said:

Timmy84 said:

And how does he know John McClain (the same man who helped shape the future of Janet's music career) is sabotaging the project?

I'm just quoting what he said and clearing up the JM he referenced.

He says that John McClain brought him in to work on tracks - and there was conflict. So Teddy left the studio and worked elsewhere. In conjunction John McClain worked on the tracks with his own mixes and basically McClain is pissed because his mixes didn't get chosen by the record company.

He's saying McClain is stirring shit up and trying to smear Teddy's name (potentially to get him off future projects).

Jeez lol

So wait..John Mcclain or whatever could have added in this

imposter's voice to what was originally really entirely Michael's

voice just to get a production credit on it to compete or

cancel out Teddy's work?

[Edited 11/8/10 13:55pm]

[Edited 11/8/10 13:56pm]

Timmy84 said:

PYTDee said:

Rodney says it doesn't sound like Mike to him..

http://twitter.com/ONLY1DARKCHILD

The plot thickens.

Fo' real??

murph said:

Timmy84 said:

Yep. And that's what sucks about it. Now I keep thinking "maybe they would've been better off with Diana Ross."

[Edited 11/8/10 11:38am]

Nah...they those kids are in the right hands.....Mrs. Jackson is not exactly saying anything earth-shattering or shocking.....She and Janet were the two biggest voices in the Jackson family who were genuinely trying to get MJ some help.... Now it would be a different story if Mrs. Jackson came out and said MJ was a child molester.... But saying he was addicted to plastic surgery is quite clear....And this doesn't take away from MJ's greatness....To me it makes him more human...

This kind of fandom scares me.

Look Murph, how do you know that? What evidence, exactly, do you have of that?

Then again: how, exactly, do you know that?

Nobody is complaining about her comment concerning Michael being addicted to plastic surgery. What we are complaining about, though, is the lack of aftermath comment; she could have told the world the reasons as to why her son changed into the way he looked. But that would hurt Jackson Family lovers like you, as some of them would be cited as reasons. And yes, it does take away from one's greatness and dignity (surprise!) when one's mother goes on national TV and calls the son who gave her the world, since the age of 5, a junkie, a liar, a lowlife and a plastic surgery addict.

Then again, the evidence of him being an addict is ZERO. But that kinda bursts the bubble for the ever devoted Jackson Family fans.

Vanilli said:

So wait..John Mcclain or whatever could have added in this

imposter's voice to what was originally really entirely Michael's

voice just to get a production credit on it to compete or

cancel out Teddy's work?

[Edited 11/8/10 13:55pm]

[Edited 11/8/10 13:56pm]

I'm not sure he is implying that.

I think Teddy is saying basically - John McClain is pissed cause his mixes of the track didn't make the cut so he is trying to bad mouth the production Teddy did that was accepted.

Who knows, lol.

For now my work day begins - so i'm out.