mozfonky said:

puzzles the fuck out of me why teddy Riley would lie like this, he's always seemed a decent man with a good heart. He can't possibly believe that that is Michael, it's really not even close in my mind, anyway enough of that.

Saw most of the opfrey interview on youtube but oprfrey keeps deleting it before i can see it all. it's got a lil of everything, Katherine will make you cry joe will make you laugh and the kids, well, haven't seen that part yet. Can't blame poor katherine, i doubt if she has a lot to do with all the vultures around her who are making it easy for her to want to do this interview. I could just see the whole goddamned broke family talking her into doing this shit and realizing she is the only one with access to more money for them, i feel bad for her. She doesn't come across as calculating or greedy, just motherly, I still don't like it but I watched it, and oh yeah, opfrey is still a fat bitch.

I do too. I really feel now after my initial disappointment with Katherine that she's put into a corner and can't get out.

As for Teddy, I wouldn't call a guy who banged his daughter upside the head with a Rock Band guitar and calling someone a bitch and slut on Twitter decent. Remember he always has falling outs with band mates because he has a mad ego trip.

But like bboy said, I gotta give him some credit, he did give us Guy.

[Edited 11/8/10 17:22pm]

Harlepolis said:

I doubt that a major record label such as Sony would risk cashing from an identity theft, its too much headache and judging from their history record of mind games, they know better than to take that walk. If the Jacksons have legal proof that its in fact NOT Michael,,,,,,take it to the court. Otherwise, people will buy this, just because Michael's name is attached to the project.

I'm disgusted with all of them, the bogus family, the bogus label, the bogus friends/co-workers and the goddamn drama that gets played everytime a new MJ project is released it sure takes the fun out of it.

I agree,this situation is ridiculous.This should be an exciting time for MJ fans,instead it's turned into a crazy circus

Timmy84 said:

mozfonky said:

puzzles the fuck out of me why teddy Riley would lie like this, he's always seemed a decent man with a good heart. He can't possibly believe that that is Michael, it's really not even close in my mind, anyway enough of that.

Saw most of the opfrey interview on youtube but oprfrey keeps deleting it before i can see it all. it's got a lil of everything, Katherine will make you cry joe will make you laugh and the kids, well, haven't seen that part yet. Can't blame poor katherine, i doubt if she has a lot to do with all the vultures around her who are making it easy for her to want to do this interview. I could just see the whole goddamned broke family talking her into doing this shit and realizing she is the only one with access to more money for them, i feel bad for her. She doesn't come across as calculating or greedy, just motherly, I still don't like it but I watched it, and oh yeah, opfrey is still a fat bitch.

I do too. I really feel now after my initial disappointment with Katherine that she's put into a corner and can't get out.

As for Teddy, I wouldn't call a guy who banged his daughter upside the head with a Rock Band guitar and calling someone a bitch and slut on Twitter decent. Remember he always has falling outs with band mates because he has a mad ego trip.

But like bboy said, I gotta give him some credit, he did give us Guy.

[Edited 11/8/10 17:22pm]

about teddy, i just don't know anything about him, once we stop talking michael, elvis, prince or bruce I can get pretty lost. He seemed decent and i was moved by his postdeath interview where he seemed such a humble nice guy. But....that could be because he treated michael like michael and not some chump, who knows.

aiden said:

You can REFUSE to buy it but unfortunately you don't KNOW it's not Michael. I've listened to everything MJ has ever recorded many many times, seen him in concert, christ I was even at his last ever public appearance @ the O2.. Big Fan. I'm a musician and producer and make a living from it. I've listened to Breaking News today about 20 times over and cannot understand the uproar regarding the vocals.

Can people stop saying it's "DEFINITELY NOT MICHAEL" when you don't know. It's been pretty much 10 years since anyone has heard his voice on a recording. They are demo vocals that have been processed the hell out of, the originals were probably out of tune and "scratch" vocals and these were ok "just to listen back", I can 100% see him asking to delete the other vocal takes. Michael may not have been happy to have them released if he were still alive but I think the song is great and IMO it's f***ing him singing. As for the Jackson families opinion... Most of them live in a paranoid bubble full of conspiracy theories to do with racism. I'm glad that Sony is in charge of Michael's music instead of his demonic father.

The End

lol Sure is hypocrites in here today. You know it's him, yet I don't know it's not him. Psssh. Whatever.

I don't care what you do or how involved you are in music, because it just makes you look worse. Whether it's been 10 or 20 years years or not, some things just don't change and will not. Just because it's on some recording doesn't mean shit either. Michael voice sounds a certain way...no matter whatever the hell he's singing. The person singing the main vocals on that song is not and does not sound like Michael Jackson. Before I even heard the actual recording I heard the acapella. I didn't even recognize the voice in the acapella, which is why I went to the actual song and just came to the conclusion that it was NOT him. The fact that any of us had to listen to the song more than once to figure whether or not it's him speaks VOLUMES. Why does he sound like himself in some of the background vocals and not in the main vocals? That doesn't make any sense. Well, maybe to you it does.

Also, in b4 2000 Watts. Even there Michael sounds like himself even though he's in a much lower register. =/

Also, I just want to put out there that I hate the song. I don't. It's not a bad song. It's just not him singing the main vocals, nor does it seem that it is characteristic of his instrumentation.

SoulAlive said:

Harlepolis said:

I doubt that a major record label such as Sony would risk cashing from an identity theft, its too much headache and judging from their history record of mind games, they know better than to take that walk. If the Jacksons have legal proof that its in fact NOT Michael,,,,,,take it to the court. Otherwise, people will buy this, just because Michael's name is attached to the project.

I'm disgusted with all of them, the bogus family, the bogus label, the bogus friends/co-workers and the goddamn drama that gets played everytime a new MJ project is released it sure takes the fun out of it.

I agree,this situation is ridiculous.This should be an exciting time for MJ fans,instead it's turned into a crazy circus

Honestly you guys can't expect to hear anything about Michael and NOT let it be a crazy circus, that's all it's ever been. Really? Y'all surprised by this?

@Harlepolis, they won't take it to court, I still think they want money out of this. If they had gotten money and signed off on it, there would still be drama because one half would also say "that's not him".

It's gonna always be a circus, expect nothing less. But if Michael was still here, we wouldn't get what we're getting. Believe that.

[Edited 11/8/10 17:38pm]

Frank Cascio needs to wake up. I feel like de-friending him on facebook

Francesco Cascio No, Sadly to say its Not Sony... Breakng New's is Great. IT Is 100% Michael Voice., He recorded it in my home. Please the fans should be enjoying this special moment. it is special and there are people out there trying to take that away from you and the world... "Jealousy" Please embrace this song as Michael was very proud of it...

That's really messed up to say i'm glad michael is not here to see this , I know what you mean but eh. I would rather him be here and never put out a album or even toured to be honest. As long as he was around.

babybugz said:

bboy87 said:

He gave us Guy......

Guy....

I like Guy and Blackstreet but never was a fan of him really. He just look like somebody I wouldn't like. lol

Don't he look like the kind of dude who'd cause a scene at Sizzler's or Applebee's because his order wasn't right?

a lot of people are saying that this is a stunt by sony to gather attention for the album

or something like that.

but i really don't see how that would work.

the only attention this creates is negative attention. granted any kind of attention is

usually good for promotional purposes.

yet, kicking up a media frenzy for a soon to be released album by releasing a vague

and dubious track that is likely even a fake?

how will that help album sales at all?

all that does is make even actual fans try to download it first to judge for themselves

if the entire album is full of these dubious vocal tracks or if the rest is true MJ songs.

and it just makes sense to conclude that from that point on many people won't even

buy the album simply because a download will actuall suffice them, even if it does

turn out to be the actual genuine article.

the only possible thing that could come from this is people being carefull before they

spend their money on the album.

sure, the song got everyone talking, just look at this thread. but i'm sure sony will be

fully aware of the backlash from this.

it's no publicity stunt, i'm sure. it's either really MJ, which seems unlikely juding from

all your many posts (i wouldn't really know myself, i kinda like his music and i have

his albums but i only get in an MJ kinda mood about twice a year, so what do i know)

or it's a fake.

so if it's a fake and they're willing to run with it, then wtf? how are they ever going to

market any genuine jackson tracks after this, if there prove to be more of these songs

on the album that's about to be released?

does anyone know who actually chose to release this as the first 'single'? i mean is

there a face to be nailed to a door for this marketing fail of the year?

SoulAlive said:

Harlepolis said:

I doubt that a major record label such as Sony would risk cashing from an identity theft, its too much headache and judging from their history record of mind games, they know better than to take that walk. If the Jacksons have legal proof that its in fact NOT Michael,,,,,,take it to the court. Otherwise, people will buy this, just because Michael's name is attached to the project.

I'm disgusted with all of them, the bogus family, the bogus label, the bogus friends/co-workers and the goddamn drama that gets played everytime a new MJ project is released it sure takes the fun out of it.

I agree,this situation is ridiculous.This should be an exciting time for MJ fans,instead it's turned into a crazy circus

thank you. i said something similar up thread only to be greeted with some long-winded conspiracy theory.

all those effing lawyers crawling around katherine, looking for their payday, and no one in the family can think to ask them to file an injunction if there is one shred of EVIDENCE that mj is not on the record? they've been challenging the executors from day one; if there was any evidence that johns mcclain and branca are willing to participate in a fraud, why not go to court and have them removed from administering the estate like you've been seeking to do? what the fuck is sending out a tweet going to do? all this drama for no good reason that i can see.

bboy87 said:

babybugz said:

I like Guy and Blackstreet but never was a fan of him really. He just look like somebody I wouldn't like. lol

Don't he look like the kind of dude who'd cause a scene at Sizzler's or Applebee's because his order wasn't right?

He sure does , a rodent that won't die smh.

babybugz said:

That's really messed up to say i'm glad michael is not here to see this , I know what you mean but eh. I would rather him be here and never put out a album or even toured to be honest. As long as he was around.

Believe me I didn't like saying that, but I felt editing it to something different was difficult.

MyLuv229 said:

Frank Cascio needs to wake up. I feel like de-friending him on facebook

Francesco Cascio No, Sadly to say its Not Sony... Breakng New's is Great. IT Is 100% Michael Voice., He recorded it in my home. Please the fans should be enjoying this special moment. it is special and there are people out there trying to take that away from you and the world... "Jealousy" Please embrace this song as Michael was very proud of it...

Oh Mr. Cascio...

IstenSzek said:

a lot of people are saying that this is a stunt by sony to gather attention for the album

or something like that.

but i really don't see how that would work.

the only attention this creates is negative attention. granted any kind of attention is

usually good for promotional purposes.

yet, kicking up a media frenzy for a soon to be released album by releasing a vague

and dubious track that is likely even a fake?

how will that help album sales at all?

all that does is make even actual fans try to download it first to judge for themselves

if the entire album is full of these dubious vocal tracks or if the rest is true MJ songs.

and it just makes sense to conclude that from that point on many people won't even

buy the album simply because a download will actuall suffice them, even if it does

turn out to be the actual genuine article.

the only possible thing that could come from this is people being carefull before they

spend their money on the album.

sure, the song got everyone talking, just look at this thread. but i'm sure sony will be

fully aware of the backlash from this.

it's no publicity stunt, i'm sure. it's either really MJ, which seems unlikely juding from

all your many posts (i wouldn't really know myself, i kinda like his music and i have

his albums but i only get in an MJ kinda mood about twice a year, so what do i know)

or it's a fake.

so if it's a fake and they're willing to run with it, then wtf? how are they ever going to

market any genuine jackson tracks after this, if there prove to be more of these songs

on the album that's about to be released?

does anyone know who actually chose to release this as the first 'single'? i mean is

there a face to be nailed to a door for this marketing fail of the year?

To be frank, "Breaking News" is not the first single, it's being promoted as a teaser. I kept hearing that "Hold My Hand" would be the first single from the album. And we've yet to see the actual track listing yet.

i for one hope the outcry is loud enough to stop it as soon as possible. It's not him, plain and simple, I wish it was him but it's not. No reason to say it's not other than it's not.

dag said:

I don´t know if I am allowed to post it if not I am sorry and please delete it, but this is no doubt Mickey and it sounds great.

The video has been removed.

EmeraldSkies said:

dag said:

I don´t know if I am allowed to post it if not I am sorry and please delete it, but this is no doubt Mickey and it sounds great.

The video has been removed.

It's there somewhere else. Guess we'll have to wait though.

Timmy84 said:

babybugz said:

That's really messed up to say i'm glad michael is not here to see this , I know what you mean but eh. I would rather him be here and never put out a album or even toured to be honest. As long as he was around.

Believe me I didn't like saying that, but I felt editing it to something different was difficult.

I know , he just had too much drama around him .

babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:

Believe me I didn't like saying that, but I felt editing it to something different was difficult.

I know , he just had too much drama around him .

Yeah and it continues even after death. I wished things weren't this difficult.

babybugz said:

bboy87 said:

Don't he look like the kind of dude who'd cause a scene at Sizzler's or Applebee's because his order wasn't right?

He sure does , a rodent that won't die smh.

squirming down in your chair while he's yelling at the waiter

We can't take this fool nowhere!

MyLuv229 said:

Frank Cascio needs to wake up. I feel like de-friending him on facebook

Francesco Cascio No, Sadly to say its Not Sony... Breakng New's is Great. IT Is 100% Michael Voice., He recorded it in my home. Please the fans should be enjoying this special moment. it is special and there are people out there trying to take that away from you and the world... "Jealousy" Please embrace this song as Michael was very proud of it...

Who the hell is this dude? I keep seeing his name in this thread, never heard of him.

Anyway, he can keep his "special" song. I just pray to god that nobody other than MJ touched "A Place With No Name" because I don't think I can handle hearing it going through the same scenario.

bboy87 said:

babybugz said:

He sure does , a rodent that won't die smh.

squirming down in your chair while he's yelling at the waiter

We can't take this fool nowhere!

That roach spray don't work on him need a bomb.

Timmy84 said:

To be frank, "Breaking News" is not the first single, it's being promoted as a teaser. I kept hearing that "Hold My Hand" would be the first single from the album. And we've yet to see the actual track listing yet.

ah ok, and is "hold my hand" confirmed to be a song that michael actually finished on his own?

beyond the doubt about wether it's his voice on "breaking news" i'm also apprehensive about

the mentions of unfinished songs or demos being "completed" after michael died.

i would rather hear songs he finished himself and was content with. that would probably mean

not a lot of brand new song from the past few years but if that were so, so be it.

having the choice, i'd rather they'd waited a little longer and put aside all their differences with

companies and family relations etc etc to create a nice little 2 or 3 cd set with outtakes from

his entire carreer. something that could be the first in a series of similar releases.

i get the appeal in making his last "album" available, but if michael didn't finish it or didn't even

have far finished plans for it, what's the point, really?

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaanyway. whatever sony is fucking up with "breaking news" i hope there will

be at least 50% actual real-and-almost-untouched-by-others songs on it.

i don't know how his estate/legacy is divided amongst people but i read somewhere this week

that his family (his mother, i think) now 'own' about 300 unreleased MJ songs. is that true?

dag said:

She´s getting real personal!

I love Prince's response when she asks what they miss the most...

he tilts his head,and has this look like "How could I choose just one thing?"

That clip had me tearing up.

Harlepolis said:

MyLuv229 said:

Frank Cascio needs to wake up. I feel like de-friending him on facebook

Francesco Cascio No, Sadly to say its Not Sony... Breakng New's is Great. IT Is 100% Michael Voice., He recorded it in my home. Please the fans should be enjoying this special moment. it is special and there are people out there trying to take that away from you and the world... "Jealousy" Please embrace this song as Michael was very proud of it...

Who the hell is this dude? I keep seeing his name in this thread, never heard of him.

Anyway, he can keep his "special" song. I just pray to god that nobody other than MJ touched "A Place With No Name" because I don't think I can handle hearing it going through the same scenario.

Supposedly one of Michael's best friends who helped "produce" this.

IstenSzek said:

Timmy84 said:

To be frank, "Breaking News" is not the first single, it's being promoted as a teaser. I kept hearing that "Hold My Hand" would be the first single from the album. And we've yet to see the actual track listing yet.

ah ok, and is "hold my hand" confirmed to be a song that michael actually finished on his own?

beyond the doubt about wether it's his voice on "breaking news" i'm also apprehensive about

the mentions of unfinished songs or demos being "completed" after michael died.

i would rather hear songs he finished himself and was content with. that would probably mean

not a lot of brand new song from the past few years but if that were so, so be it.

having the choice, i'd rather they'd waited a little longer and put aside all their differences with

companies and family relations etc etc to create a nice little 2 or 3 cd set with outtakes from

his entire carreer. something that could be the first in a series of similar releases.

i get the appeal in making his last "album" available, but if michael didn't finish it or didn't even

have far finished plans for it, what's the point, really?

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaanyway. whatever sony is fucking up with "breaking news" i hope there will

be at least 50% actual real-and-almost-untouched-by-others songs on it.

i don't know how his estate/legacy is divided amongst people but i read somewhere this week

that his family (his mother, i think) now 'own' about 300 unreleased MJ songs. is that true?

I don't know if they said the estate owns it or the family owns it, I think I hear that the family did but I'm not sure on that.

And no, no one knows for sure about "Hold My Hand". I don't believe it myself.

Harlepolis said:

MyLuv229 said:

Frank Cascio needs to wake up. I feel like de-friending him on facebook

Francesco Cascio No, Sadly to say its Not Sony... Breakng New's is Great. IT Is 100% Michael Voice., He recorded it in my home. Please the fans should be enjoying this special moment. it is special and there are people out there trying to take that away from you and the world... "Jealousy" Please embrace this song as Michael was very proud of it...

Who the hell is this dude? I keep seeing his name in this thread, never heard of him.

Anyway, he can keep his "special" song. I just pray to god that nobody other than MJ touched "A Place With No Name" because I don't think I can handle hearing it going through the same scenario.

Michael was friends with the Cascio family since the early 90s. Frank Cascio worked with Michael in the early 2000s and Michael was frequently staying over their house in NJ in 2007.

Timmy84 said:

NMuzakNSoul said:

X to the actlay.

I know some folks think we're losing our minds over this but if you listen to him long enough, you can tell what's real and what's not. I ain't stupid, it's like don't tell me there's no shit on my plate when I can clearly see it and smell it on my plate.

[Edited 11/8/10 15:59pm]

IstenSzek said:

Timmy84 said:

To be frank, "Breaking News" is not the first single, it's being promoted as a teaser. I kept hearing that "Hold My Hand" would be the first single from the album. And we've yet to see the actual track listing yet.

ah ok, and is "hold my hand" confirmed to be a song that michael actually finished on his own?

beyond the doubt about wether it's his voice on "breaking news" i'm also apprehensive about

the mentions of unfinished songs or demos being "completed" after michael died.

i would rather hear songs he finished himself and was content with. that would probably mean

not a lot of brand new song from the past few years but if that were so, so be it.

having the choice, i'd rather they'd waited a little longer and put aside all their differences with

companies and family relations etc etc to create a nice little 2 or 3 cd set with outtakes from

his entire carreer. something that could be the first in a series of similar releases.

i get the appeal in making his last "album" available, but if michael didn't finish it or didn't even

have far finished plans for it, what's the point, really?

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaanyway. whatever sony is fucking up with "breaking news" i hope there will

be at least 50% actual real-and-almost-untouched-by-others songs on it.

i don't know how his estate/legacy is divided amongst people but i read somewhere this week

that his family (his mother, i think) now 'own' about 300 unreleased MJ songs. is that true?

The reasons his nephew gave to why he doubts the vocals are pretty valid. They say the harddrives and everything with them were deleted because he was so happy with them, BUT Michael was a packrat He recorded and kept everything, there's about 3 demos of Billie Jean and 2 demos of Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' circulating for example

Those 300 unreleased songs are mostly tracks that were used for The Jacksons' 1976 variety show and maybe some unreleased tracks from the early 70s along with maybe Janet's earliest recordings

bboy87 said:

Bruh....

-we got a new song out and it's Michael but it's not Michael

-A new album and nobody knows who's singing on the album

-Taj Taryll and TJ vs The Cascios and Teddy Riley

-We got Katherine saying she wanted to believe Michael wasn't addicted to drugs but believes he was, although she said she never saw anything out of the ordinary in her previous interview

-Joe still saying he never beat his kids

-Katherine doing business with shady ass Howard Mann and Marc Shaffel

-Teddy Riley calling a fan a bitch and a slut on Twitter

-Jason Malachi going into hiding

-Rodney Jerkins saying the song doesn't sound like Michael

So much fuckery in such a small frame of time

LOL!!!

This is some shitty birthday week, I have to say. I was really looking forward to this song today. I'm DISGUSTED and INSULTED!!! And can you believe it's only Monday?! My god... with the Oprah interview, Michael's kids being exploited on TV, Sony taking a piss on Michael's legacy, and then in the middle of this, you got Janet blindly tweeting about her new movie like nothing else is going on. It's like a circus on steriods! I wasn't surprised to find this thread on page 30!