WetDream said:

MyLuv229 said:

What hope? There's no hope for the guys in the Music and More side. It's very easy to see the truth. You dont have to be a fan to know the truth, you just have to read the evidence. Hear the phone conversation that Chandler dude had with his lawyer, read the court transcripts of 2005, and compare to it how the media was reporting the case. The committed haters (Mars & Co.) can't see the truth because they simply don't want to. It takes their fun away and they can't risk that because the false allegations are the only thing they can use in their Prince vs. Michael debate. They need to believe the false rumors because it's the only weight they have to defend their already-weak position. No weight, no discussion. And this place is all about winning a discussion, especially when the words Michael and Prince are used in the same thread.

What absolute shite.

I was about to agree with Bboy until i read this.

The reason many here think guilty on Mike has ZERO to do with Prince. The media were vicious, many people were swayed to think guilty....and i hugely doubt they want to read court transcripts etc when they clearly don't care about the man. Believe it or not, people have lives.

Sure they're ill-informed, but that's because of the reasons above, not Prince ffs.

I never have a MJ V Prince debate because to me, it's childish. But i can tell you, i would debate a godly amount in favour of Prince without putting MJs persona down in the slightest because guess what? A personal life ain't got nothing to do with music and therefore wouldn't be the only thing to debate about.

Seriously, you're complaining about exactly what you're doing.

I decided to post a bit in here again as new things are cracking off and i feel sorry for bboy and others when they try and get talking about music and all this shit just wins instead. There is a great thing to do when you hear/read something you don't agree with, ignore or have a mature debate about it, not get emotional about your lord and saviour and make yourself look foolish because this post makes it look like you fear Prince...and that's just sad....they're just entertainers.

[Edited 11/7/10 7:22am]

Ok, you clearly misunderstood my post. I'm specifically referring to posters and the content of their remarks regarding a specific thread that Bboy is referring to. I was NOT speaking in general terms, which is what you seem to be responding to. If you read the thread that I was talking about, you'd understand my post clearly. Here: http://prince.org/msg/7/346753 Until then, let me clear up some things..

I do NOT see Michael as some lord and savior. I don't believe in that crap. I do NOT engage in discussions where we dissect the motives of Katherine, Joe and the other Jacksons in relation to Michael because I'm more concerned and interested in the artist. Most of the information I post/respond to has to do with the man/artist himself and not the gossip, sensation, etc. I rarely engage in Prince vs Michael debates, and the only time I do is to refocus the discussion away from irrelevant, media-hyped discussions. So if you want to thank those who keep this thread about the music, news of the artist and the man Michael Jackson.... YOU'RE WELCOME.

[Edited 11/7/10 9:45am]

WetDream said:

MyLuv229 said:

What hope? There's no hope for the guys in the Music and More side. It's very easy to see the truth. You dont have to be a fan to know the truth, you just have to read the evidence. Hear the phone conversation that Chandler dude had with his lawyer, read the court transcripts of 2005, and compare to it how the media was reporting the case. The committed haters (Mars & Co.) can't see the truth because they simply don't want to. It takes their fun away and they can't risk that because the false allegations are the only thing they can use in their Prince vs. Michael debate. They need to believe the false rumors because it's the only weight they have to defend their already-weak position. No weight, no discussion. And this place is all about winning a discussion, especially when the words Michael and Prince are used in the same thread.

What absolute shite.

I was about to agree with Bboy until i read this.

The reason many here think guilty on Mike has ZERO to do with Prince. The media were vicious, many people were swayed to think guilty....and i hugely doubt they want to read court transcripts etc when they clearly don't care about the man. Believe it or not, people have lives.

Sure they're ill-informed, but that's because of the reasons above, not Prince ffs.

I never have a MJ V Prince debate because to me, it's childish. But i can tell you, i would debate a godly amount in favour of Prince without putting MJs persona down in the slightest because guess what? A personal life ain't got nothing to do with music and therefore wouldn't be the only thing to debate about.

Seriously, you're complaining about exactly what you're doing.

I decided to post a bit in here again as new things are cracking off and i feel sorry for bboy and others when they try and get talking about music and all this shit just wins instead. There is a great thing to do when you hear/read something you don't agree with, ignore or have a mature debate about it, not get emotional about your lord and saviour and make yourself look foolish because this post makes it look like you fear Prince...and that's just sad....they're just entertainers.

[Edited 11/7/10 7:22am]

but you do know I wasn't talking about any MJ v Prince thing, right?

I was simply saying reading some of the remarks makes me hope one day people who realize what really went down in those cases

When is this debate going to stop. Prince and Michael were completely different artist, different genre, different styles, why are some of you obssessed with comparing them. Obviously at the end of the day its going to come down to opinions based on who you perfer more. Duh! stop with the BS. Frankly, I dont care much for Prince but that doesnt mean he isnt an amazing artist and it doesnt mean i see Michael, who i perfer more as some godlike figure, my lord and savior. Like i said stop with the bs. Not everyone going to fall head over heels for prince, and not everyone's gonna like Michael. So stop with these rediculous debates and arguments. @wetdream . the whole fear prince comment, lol! funny thats how i feel everytime i go into a thread with you prince fans and your all going after him like a pack of wolves. Its a never ending drama. I dont say you have to like him, but repect. and theirs hardly any of that shown. I dont come on here and talk ish about prince. I respect the guy, i really do. And bboy, i completely agree with you about the nonsense that goes on in mj threads. Complete disrespectful. you have to think, there is something wrong when the thread made is about a prince logo on an mj album, and all of a sudden the discussions becomes prince vs. michael.How Michael, who's dead by the way and didnt have any input in choosing the artwork, is obssessed with prince, and his legal trials, The pysch of a peadophile ,pedofilia and whether you think he's guilty or not. Its life you can always expect these things to enter a discussion about mj. Wetdream you've made your stance clear. prince is the greatest artist that ever lived, Michael's music is beneath you, same old same old blah blah and so on. Thats your opinionm good for you but dont expect evryone to share it. You have an overall condescending tone. Like someone said, michael was michael, you want him to be more like prince. Enjoy him for the artist he was not the artist you want him to be. Its not hero- worship to like michael over prince and vice-versa. Again it all comes down to taste and preference. Whats obvious to you isnt always obvious to someone else.[Edited 11/7/10 10:16am]

[Edited 11/7/10 10:27am]

Michael McKeller

[img:$uid]http://i53.tinypic.com/2hguz2o.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://i54.tinypic.com/2wm3vqr.jpg[/img:$uid]

Michael McKeller
lives in a different world
Oh what a different
nobody seems to care
waits at the window
look how he's lying there
pretends he's dying there
Nobody seems to care

Isn't it dear nobody
noticed serving his heart
on a tray now
isn't it queer look and
you'll notice bowing his head

talks to the mirror
himself he entertains
(or he's standing in the rain)

(but all things remain the same)

his pain remains the same

Michael McKeller suffered
He must get away
He's left alone today
Nobody cares to stay

talks to the mirror
feels he must runaway

SamiDion said:

When is this debate going to stop. Prince and Michael were completely different artist, different genre, different styles, why are some of you obssessed with comparing them. Obviously at the end of the day its going to come down to opinions based on who you perfer more. Duh! stop with the BS. Frankly, I dont care much for Prince but that doesnt mean he isnt an amazing artist and it doesnt mean i see Michael, who i perfer more as some godlike figure, my lord and savior. Like i said stop with the bs. Not everyone going to fall head over heels for prince, and not everyone's gonna like Michael. So stop with these rediculous debates and arguments. @wetdream . the whole fear prince comment, lol! funny thats how i feel everytime i go into a thread with you prince fans and your all going after him like a pack of wolves. Its a never ending drama. I dont say you have to like him, but repect. and theirs hardly any of that shown. I dont come on here and talk ish about prince. I respect the guy, i really do. And bboy, i completely agree with you about the nonsense that goes on in mj threads. Complete disrespectful. you have to think, there is something wrong when the thread made is about a prince logo on an mj album, and all of a sudden the discussions becomes prince vs. michael.How Michael, who's dead by the way and didnt have any input in choosing the artwork, is obssessed with prince, and his legal trials, The pysch of a peadophile ,pedofilia and whether you think he's guilty or not. Its life you can always expect these things to enter a discussion about mj. Wetdream you've made your stance clear. prince is the greatest artist that ever lived, Michael's music is beneath you, same old same old blah blah and so on. Thats your opinionm good for you but dont expect evryone to share it. You have an overall condescending tone. Like someone said, michael was michael, you want him to be more like prince. Enjoy him for the artist he was not the artist you want him to be. Its not hero- worship to like michael over prince and vice-versa. Again it all comes down to taste and preference. Whats obvious to you isnt always obvious to someone else.[Edited 11/7/10 10:16am]

[Edited 11/7/10 10:27am]

i don't think it's stupid at all, they were contemporaries and heirs to the same influences and musically had many similarities. You ad on to that the fact that they were both on the cutting edge and either commercially or artistically not just the best of the black but the best of all artists. And moreover, I believe they both admired each other and were influenced by each other it became an inside joke between them and us through the years. I believe they used each other to up the ante and were rivals with a love/hate relationship. I think it's a good and valid comparison, like comparing the Beatles to the Stones or Chuck Berry to Elvis etc.., That said, it's not worth getting all vicous about, we should take it like they did, with a degree of fun.

bboy87 said:

Michael McKeller

[img:$uid]http://i53.tinypic.com/2hguz2o.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://i54.tinypic.com/2wm3vqr.jpg[/img:$uid]

Michael McKeller
lives in a different world
Oh what a different
nobody seems to care
waits at the window
look how he's lying there
pretends he's dying there
Nobody seems to care

Isn't it dear nobody
noticed serving his heart
on a tray now
isn't it queer look and
you'll notice bowing his head

talks to the mirror
himself he entertains
(or he's standing in the rain)

(but all things remain the same)

his pain remains the same

Michael McKeller suffered
He must get away
He's left alone today
Nobody cares to stay

talks to the mirror
feels he must runaway

Heartbreaking.

LMAO

mozfonky said:

SamiDion said:

When is this debate going to stop. Prince and Michael were completely different artist, different genre, different styles, why are some of you obssessed with comparing them. Obviously at the end of the day its going to come down to opinions based on who you perfer more. Duh! stop with the BS. Frankly, I dont care much for Prince but that doesnt mean he isnt an amazing artist and it doesnt mean i see Michael, who i perfer more as some godlike figure, my lord and savior. Like i said stop with the bs. Not everyone going to fall head over heels for prince, and not everyone's gonna like Michael. So stop with these rediculous debates and arguments. @wetdream . the whole fear prince comment, lol! funny thats how i feel everytime i go into a thread with you prince fans and your all going after him like a pack of wolves. Its a never ending drama. I dont say you have to like him, but repect. and theirs hardly any of that shown. I dont come on here and talk ish about prince. I respect the guy, i really do. And bboy, i completely agree with you about the nonsense that goes on in mj threads. Complete disrespectful. you have to think, there is something wrong when the thread made is about a prince logo on an mj album, and all of a sudden the discussions becomes prince vs. michael.How Michael, who's dead by the way and didnt have any input in choosing the artwork, is obssessed with prince, and his legal trials, The pysch of a peadophile ,pedofilia and whether you think he's guilty or not. Its life you can always expect these things to enter a discussion about mj. Wetdream you've made your stance clear. prince is the greatest artist that ever lived, Michael's music is beneath you, same old same old blah blah and so on. Thats your opinionm good for you but dont expect evryone to share it. You have an overall condescending tone. Like someone said, michael was michael, you want him to be more like prince. Enjoy him for the artist he was not the artist you want him to be. Its not hero- worship to like michael over prince and vice-versa. Again it all comes down to taste and preference. Whats obvious to you isnt always obvious to someone else.[Edited 11/7/10 10:16am]

[Edited 11/7/10 10:27am]

i don't think it's stupid at all, they were contemporaries and heirs to the same influences and musically had many similarities. You ad on to that the fact that they were both on the cutting edge and either commercially or artistically not just the best of the black but the best of all artists. And moreover, I believe they both admired each other and were influenced by each other it became an inside joke between them and us through the years. I believe they used each other to up the ante and were rivals with a love/hate relationship. I think it's a good and valid comparison, like comparing the Beatles to the Stones or Chuck Berry to Elvis etc.., That said, it's not worth getting all vicous about, we should take it like they did, with a degree of fun.

Yeah, that might be true, but their music is still pretty different from each other and they went in two separate paths later. I mean...they weren't the only r&b musicians that existed at that time either. I think that, for a lot of people they were the most popular two. Kinda like how people keep talking about The Beatles and the Rolling Stones even though there were other pretty influential artists out there as well, such as the Kinks, and etc.

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Nah but seriously, we're at this again with the comparisons? lol

Music was similar enough though, and had the same mix of influences. In that era, there was what, New Wave, long hair rock, Bruce in his pop if not art prime, but I can't think of a lot that has endured from the era outside of these two giants. then again, I was never a fan even as a teen of the music out at the time. You're right though Prince and Mike weren't on an island of their own, the black music and the van halens did have impact on both in one way or another but they were both at the forefront of it all. Anyway, since some of you get tired of it, I don't want to beat a dead horse.

Well I love 'em both, so ner

bboy87 said:

Michael McKeller

[img:$uid]http://i53.tinypic.com/2hguz2o.jpg[/img:$uid]

[img:$uid]http://i54.tinypic.com/2wm3vqr.jpg[/img:$uid]

Michael McKeller
lives in a different world
Oh what a different
nobody seems to care
waits at the window
look how he's lying there
pretends he's dying there
Nobody seems to care

Isn't it dear nobody
noticed serving his heart
on a tray now
isn't it queer look and
you'll notice bowing his head

talks to the mirror
himself he entertains
(or he's standing in the rain)

(but all things remain the same)

his pain remains the same

Michael McKeller suffered
He must get away
He's left alone today
Nobody cares to stay

talks to the mirror
feels he must runaway

When reading this I get hints of Little Susie. Obviously it feels like he evolved this song into Little Susie - maybe because recording it as Michael McKellar might have been too easy a target at HiStory time.

bboy87 said:

WetDream said:

What absolute shite.

I was about to agree with Bboy until i read this.

The reason many here think guilty on Mike has ZERO to do with Prince. The media were vicious, many people were swayed to think guilty....and i hugely doubt they want to read court transcripts etc when they clearly don't care about the man. Believe it or not, people have lives.

Sure they're ill-informed, but that's because of the reasons above, not Prince ffs.

I never have a MJ V Prince debate because to me, it's childish. But i can tell you, i would debate a godly amount in favour of Prince without putting MJs persona down in the slightest because guess what? A personal life ain't got nothing to do with music and therefore wouldn't be the only thing to debate about.

Seriously, you're complaining about exactly what you're doing.

I decided to post a bit in here again as new things are cracking off and i feel sorry for bboy and others when they try and get talking about music and all this shit just wins instead. There is a great thing to do when you hear/read something you don't agree with, ignore or have a mature debate about it, not get emotional about your lord and saviour and make yourself look foolish because this post makes it look like you fear Prince...and that's just sad....they're just entertainers.

[Edited 11/7/10 7:22am]

but you do know I wasn't talking about any MJ v Prince thing, right?

I was simply saying reading some of the remarks makes me hope one day people who realize what really went down in those cases

ATTENTION ALL AUSSIE FANS.

Wow.

The troll at it again

[Edited 11/7/10 17:13pm]

Damn, Harvey Levin from TMZ sure is going nuts over "Breaking News".

Hey, it's Harvey. We usually don't write first person on TMZ, but I gotta tell you what I just heard.

Someone has played me the song "Breaking News." I'm not a music expert, but I am a Michael Jackson music fan ... and it's definitely Michael Jackson. The song -- which is awesome -- is a pretty harsh look through Michael's eyes at the media. In essence, he is saying ... You've treated me shabbily and you've hope for my demise, but I'm back!

One of the lyrics:
"They want to see that I fall,
cause I'm Michael Jackson.
You write the words to destroy
like it's a weapon."

In another part of the song, Jackson sings:
"Everybody wanting a piece of Michael Jackson.
Reporters stalking the moves of Michael Jackson.
Just when you thought he was done,
he comes to give it again."

The song is vintage Jackson. The initial beat will remind you of "Billie Jean" and there are all sorts of MJ trademarks throughout.

When you hear it, you will not be able to suppress the image of Jackson dancing to the song.

The song was recorded at the home of music producer Eddie Cascio, when Michael Jackson was living there for four months in 2007.

As good as the song is ... it's not the first single that will be released. We're told we might be able to post a copy of "Breaking News" on TMZ as soon as late tonight.

WWW.TMZ.COM

mookie said:

Damn, Harvey Levin from TMZ sure is going nuts over "Breaking News".

Hey, it's Harvey. We usually don't write first person on TMZ, but I gotta tell you what I just heard.

Someone has played me the song "Breaking News." I'm not a music expert, but I am a Michael Jackson music fan ... and it's definitely Michael Jackson. The song -- which is awesome -- is a pretty harsh look through Michael's eyes at the media. In essence, he is saying ... You've treated me shabbily and you've hope for my demise, but I'm back!

One of the lyrics:
"They want to see that I fall,
cause I'm Michael Jackson.
You write the words to destroy
like it's a weapon."

In another part of the song, Jackson sings:
"Everybody wanting a piece of Michael Jackson.
Reporters stalking the moves of Michael Jackson.
Just when you thought he was done,
he comes to give it again."

The song is vintage Jackson. The initial beat will remind you of "Billie Jean" and there are all sorts of MJ trademarks throughout.

When you hear it, you will not be able to suppress the image of Jackson dancing to the song.

The song was recorded at the home of music producer Eddie Cascio, when Michael Jackson was living there for four months in 2007.

As good as the song is ... it's not the first single that will be released. We're told we might be able to post a copy of "Breaking News" on TMZ as soon as late tonight.

WWW.TMZ.COM

I can't wait to hear the song!!!!

So excited

mookie said:

Damn, Harvey Levin from TMZ sure is going nuts over "Breaking News".

Hey, it's Harvey. We usually don't write first person on TMZ, but I gotta tell you what I just heard.

Someone has played me the song "Breaking News." I'm not a music expert, but I am a Michael Jackson music fan ... and it's definitely Michael Jackson. The song -- which is awesome -- is a pretty harsh look through Michael's eyes at the media. In essence, he is saying ... You've treated me shabbily and you've hope for my demise, but I'm back!

One of the lyrics:
"They want to see that I fall,
cause I'm Michael Jackson.
You write the words to destroy
like it's a weapon."

In another part of the song, Jackson sings:
"Everybody wanting a piece of Michael Jackson.
Reporters stalking the moves of Michael Jackson.
Just when you thought he was done,
he comes to give it again."

The song is vintage Jackson. The initial beat will remind you of "Billie Jean" and there are all sorts of MJ trademarks throughout.

When you hear it, you will not be able to suppress the image of Jackson dancing to the song.

The song was recorded at the home of music producer Eddie Cascio, when Michael Jackson was living there for four months in 2007.

As good as the song is ... it's not the first single that will be released. We're told we might be able to post a copy of "Breaking News" on TMZ as soon as late tonight.

WWW.TMZ.COM

Of course they will be able to post a copy of it late tonight - because it's due to be made public then.

mookie said:

Damn, Harvey Levin from TMZ sure is going nuts over "Breaking News".

Hey, it's Harvey. We usually don't write first person on TMZ, but I gotta tell you what I just heard.

Someone has played me the song "Breaking News." I'm not a music expert, but I am a Michael Jackson music fan ... and it's definitely Michael Jackson. The song -- which is awesome -- is a pretty harsh look through Michael's eyes at the media. In essence, he is saying ... You've treated me shabbily and you've hope for my demise, but I'm back!

One of the lyrics:
"They want to see that I fall,
cause I'm Michael Jackson.
You write the words to destroy
like it's a weapon."

In another part of the song, Jackson sings:
"Everybody wanting a piece of Michael Jackson.
Reporters stalking the moves of Michael Jackson.
Just when you thought he was done,
he comes to give it again."

The song is vintage Jackson. The initial beat will remind you of "Billie Jean" and there are all sorts of MJ trademarks throughout.

When you hear it, you will not be able to suppress the image of Jackson dancing to the song.

The song was recorded at the home of music producer Eddie Cascio, when Michael Jackson was living there for four months in 2007.

As good as the song is ... it's not the first single that will be released. We're told we might be able to post a copy of "Breaking News" on TMZ as soon as late tonight.

WWW.TMZ.COM

Right On Harvey.

mozfonky said:

Music was similar enough though, and had the same mix of influences. In that era, there was what, New Wave, long hair rock, Bruce in his pop if not art prime, but I can't think of a lot that has endured from the era outside of these two giants. then again, I was never a fan even as a teen of the music out at the time. You're right though Prince and Mike weren't on an island of their own, the black music and the van halens did have impact on both in one way or another but they were both at the forefront of it all. Anyway, since some of you get tired of it, I don't want to beat a dead horse.

Shoot. That dead horse been beaten since 1984 . Nothing new.

Cinnamon234 said:

mookie said:

Damn, Harvey Levin from TMZ sure is going nuts over "Breaking News".

Hey, it's Harvey. We usually don't write first person on TMZ, but I gotta tell you what I just heard.

Someone has played me the song "Breaking News." I'm not a music expert, but I am a Michael Jackson music fan ... and it's definitely Michael Jackson. The song -- which is awesome -- is a pretty harsh look through Michael's eyes at the media. In essence, he is saying ... You've treated me shabbily and you've hope for my demise, but I'm back!

One of the lyrics:
"They want to see that I fall,
cause I'm Michael Jackson.
You write the words to destroy
like it's a weapon."

In another part of the song, Jackson sings:
"Everybody wanting a piece of Michael Jackson.
Reporters stalking the moves of Michael Jackson.
Just when you thought he was done,
he comes to give it again."

The song is vintage Jackson. The initial beat will remind you of "Billie Jean" and there are all sorts of MJ trademarks throughout.

When you hear it, you will not be able to suppress the image of Jackson dancing to the song.

The song was recorded at the home of music producer Eddie Cascio, when Michael Jackson was living there for four months in 2007.

As good as the song is ... it's not the first single that will be released. We're told we might be able to post a copy of "Breaking News" on TMZ as soon as late tonight.

WWW.TMZ.COM

I can't wait to hear the song!!!!

So excited

Woohoo! Me too Cinnamon!!! Can't wait to hear it!!!!

WetDream said:

bboy87 said:

but you do know I wasn't talking about any MJ v Prince thing, right?

I was simply saying reading some of the remarks makes me hope one day people who realize what really went down in those cases

Yeah, yeah, i know. But, that's enough of that. It wasn't aimed at you. Just keep that news coming and i'll hope for MJ to to prove me wrong about my perceptions on his music. I really hope some non-pop stuff exists ala that classical album.

I hope the Estate commissioned it. Michael had done some demos for it but hadn't fully started it, but there is stuff from earlier sessions as far back as 1979 that he had in the vaults. He did some songs called "Iowa", "Kentucky", and others the same time he wrote Little Susie, When Babies Smile, Be Not Always, and Lovely One

just posted on twitter by taryll jackson

On Monday 8th November 2010, @Taryll said:

I am shocked that things have gotten this far. This is ridiculous. I was at the studio when these questionable files were delivered. I heard these "so-called" Michael Jackson songs raw and without the distraction of the well produced music by Teddy Riley. How they constructed these songs is very sneaky and sly. many people who have worked on this project either have strong doubts and questions while others KNOW the truth yet decided to turn and look the other way with their hands out for $$. I will NEVER look the other way. Right is Right, Truth is Truth, Facts are Facts and it will all come out!!! I tried so hard to prevent this craziness, but they wouldn't listen. I KNOW my Uncle's voice and something's seriously wrong when you have immediate FAMILY saying it's not him. Don't you have to wonder why? I have strong, undeniable points. They can't give me answers, yet continue to move forward with lies and deception. Sounding like Michael Jackson and BEING Michael Jackson are two different things.

"If you know it's a lie then you will swear it, If you give it with guilt then you will bear it, If it's taking a chance then you will dare it... you would do anything for money"

zhare said:

just posted on twitter by taryll jackson

On Monday 8th November 2010, @Taryll said:

I am shocked that things have gotten this far. This is ridiculous. I was at the studio when these questionable files were delivered. I heard these "so-called" Michael Jackson songs raw and without the distraction of the well produced music by Teddy Riley. How they constructed these songs is very sneaky and sly. many people who have worked on this project either have strong doubts and questions while others KNOW the truth yet decided to turn and look the other way with their hands out for $$. I will NEVER look the other way. Right is Right, Truth is Truth, Facts are Facts and it will all come out!!! I tried so hard to prevent this craziness, but they wouldn't listen. I KNOW my Uncle's voice and something's seriously wrong when you have immediate FAMILY saying it's not him. Don't you have to wonder why? I have strong, undeniable points. They can't give me answers, yet continue to move forward with lies and deception. Sounding like Michael Jackson and BEING Michael Jackson are two different things.

"If you know it's a lie then you will swear it, If you give it with guilt then you will bear it, If it's taking a chance then you will dare it... you would do anything for money"

Wow. I guess we'll have to judge for ourselves when we hear the album.

IOWA is an instrumental orchestral piece.

angel345 said:

mozfonky said:

Music was similar enough though, and had the same mix of influences. In that era, there was what, New Wave, long hair rock, Bruce in his pop if not art prime, but I can't think of a lot that has endured from the era outside of these two giants. then again, I was never a fan even as a teen of the music out at the time. You're right though Prince and Mike weren't on an island of their own, the black music and the van halens did have impact on both in one way or another but they were both at the forefront of it all. Anyway, since some of you get tired of it, I don't want to beat a dead horse.

Shoot. That dead horse been beaten since 1984 . Nothing new.

Maybe for some people but I will always see them as two complimentary halves, dopplegangers, perfect for each other. Michael made Purple Rain, Born in The USA and the entire music industry more successful than they would have been without him, if that is a fact (and I think it is) then there is nothing wrong with pointing it out. I am just truly thankful that I was a young fledling musician at that time, I think others should feel that way.

zhare said:

just posted on twitter by taryll jackson

On Monday 8th November 2010, @Taryll said:

I am shocked that things have gotten this far. This is ridiculous. I was at the studio when these questionable files were delivered. I heard these "so-called" Michael Jackson songs raw and without the distraction of the well produced music by Teddy Riley. How they constructed these songs is very sneaky and sly. many people who have worked on this project either have strong doubts and questions while others KNOW the truth yet decided to turn and look the other way with their hands out for $$. I will NEVER look the other way. Right is Right, Truth is Truth, Facts are Facts and it will all come out!!! I tried so hard to prevent this craziness, but they wouldn't listen. I KNOW my Uncle's voice and something's seriously wrong when you have immediate FAMILY saying it's not him. Don't you have to wonder why? I have strong, undeniable points. They can't give me answers, yet continue to move forward with lies and deception. Sounding like Michael Jackson and BEING Michael Jackson are two different things.

"If you know it's a lie then you will swear it, If you give it with guilt then you will bear it, If it's taking a chance then you will dare it... you would do anything for money"

No offence but how did he get to listen to the songs from the album? -.-

I'm sure Sony is protecting the songs from being leaked. I very much doubt that the Jackson family other than the head os estate had access to the studio while Mike's songs are being mixed or remastered. (sigh)

And I trust Teddy. I think he knows Mike's voice.