Has this been created yet? I know it was planned earlier in the year, but with the drama always surrounding NYC subway system, not sure if it's happening......

http://www.nbcnewyork.com...79262.html

The Downtown Brooklyn Partnership negotiated an agreement to create a mural of the late King of Pop at the entrance of the Hoyt-Schermerhorn train station, the New York Post reports.

The display is still being planned with no word on who will design the artwork, which will be displayed on the front of an office building at 45 Hoyt Street.

The location holds special significance because the Hoyt-Schemerhorn station is where director Martin Scorsese directed Jackson in the iconic 1987 music video "Bad."

"We see this as a great opportunity to potentially establish Hoyt-Schermerhorn’s role in American pop culture and as a tourist destination to attract people to a part of Downtown Brooklyn already rapidly growing," Joe Chan, president of the partnership told The Post.

Since the project will be shown on property belonging to real estate company Beneson Capital, the Metropolitan Transportation Authority's permission is not required.

This is not the first time a Hoyt-Schermerhorn Jackson tribute was proposed -- Last fall, the MTA rejected City Councilwoman Letitia James’ suggestion to rename the station after the "Thriller" singer and hang up a plaque of him.

[Edited 11/6/10 18:55pm]

WaterInYourBath said:

Swa said:

To all the death hoax believers - I'm willing to go through all the 100 you tube clips with an open, but analytical mind and review them if you are open to faults being pointed out.

The first thing people jumped on was the This Is It photo saying MJ was photoshopped in because the S wasn't there between his legs. This was what started it. And then when it was PROVEN the S was never there because that panel on the screen was a door down to the bottom of the stage - they conveniently forgot it and moved on to other things.

Like I said, I understand the desire to want him to be alive.

But I couldn't support a man who deliberately faked his death - inflicting pain on millions of people not to mention his children and family. Especially one who thought yeah I can come back and everything will be ok.

I'm willing to put down $10,000 saying he is dead. Anyone want to take me up on it?

I'm not going back on what I said by discussing this.....But I just have 1 question, and that's it: Why wouldn't they know about it?

To your point IF this was true - they might. But it still doesn't excuse the pain inflicted on the fans and people world wide - not to mention fans who committed suicide following his death.

But have you thought of the reverse - if it was true - how is it kept secret? With all the money being offered on stories about Michael when he was alive - someone could have/would have made a multimillion dollar deal on the proving he was alive. Secrets this big can never be kept.

I'm happy to review the evidence he is alive and judge it. Are you happy to accept he is dead though?

Swa said:

MyLuv229 said:

What S between his legs? You mean his snake? I don't get it. Either way, these hoax theories are so far fetched, you have put in great effort to make a case.

This shot...

So that's the big evidence? Umm.. there's obviously a large speaker behind him that's covering the bottom part of the "S"

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MyLuv229 said:

Swa said:

This shot...

So that's the big evidence? Umm.. there's obviously a large speaker behind him that's covering the bottom part of the "S"

[Edited 11/6/10 19:01pm]

Not a speaker - it was a panel missing in the display screen backdrop that allowed people to access the stage or get under it. Hoax believers initially used this shot as PROOF there was a conspiracy saying that he was photoshopped in. However, haven't seen any of them go back and say - ok I was wrong about that. House of cards and all.

MyLuv229 said:

Has this been created yet? I know it was planned earlier in the year, but with the drama always surrounding NYC subway system, not sure if it's happening......

http://www.nbcnewyork.com...79262.html

The Downtown Brooklyn Partnership negotiated an agreement to create a mural of the late King of Pop at the entrance of the Hoyt-Schermerhorn train station, the New York Post reports.

The display is still being planned with no word on who will design the artwork, which will be displayed on the front of an office building at 45 Hoyt Street.

The location holds special significance because the Hoyt-Schemerhorn station is where director Martin Scorsese directed Jackson in the iconic 1987 music video "Bad."

"We see this as a great opportunity to potentially establish Hoyt-Schermerhorn’s role in American pop culture and as a tourist destination to attract people to a part of Downtown Brooklyn already rapidly growing," Joe Chan, president of the partnership told The Post.

Since the project will be shown on property belonging to real estate company Beneson Capital, the Metropolitan Transportation Authority's permission is not required.

This is not the first time a Hoyt-Schermerhorn Jackson tribute was proposed -- Last fall, the MTA rejected City Councilwoman Letitia James’ suggestion to rename the station after the "Thriller" singer and hang up a plaque of him.

[Edited 11/6/10 18:55pm]

This would be cool. Any evidence its happened?

Swa said:

MyLuv229 said:

Has this been created yet? I know it was planned earlier in the year, but with the drama always surrounding NYC subway system, not sure if it's happening......

http://www.nbcnewyork.com...79262.html

The Downtown Brooklyn Partnership negotiated an agreement to create a mural of the late King of Pop at the entrance of the Hoyt-Schermerhorn train station, the New York Post reports.

The display is still being planned with no word on who will design the artwork, which will be displayed on the front of an office building at 45 Hoyt Street.

The location holds special significance because the Hoyt-Schemerhorn station is where director Martin Scorsese directed Jackson in the iconic 1987 music video "Bad."

"We see this as a great opportunity to potentially establish Hoyt-Schermerhorn’s role in American pop culture and as a tourist destination to attract people to a part of Downtown Brooklyn already rapidly growing," Joe Chan, president of the partnership told The Post.

Since the project will be shown on property belonging to real estate company Beneson Capital, the Metropolitan Transportation Authority's permission is not required.

This is not the first time a Hoyt-Schermerhorn Jackson tribute was proposed -- Last fall, the MTA rejected City Councilwoman Letitia James’ suggestion to rename the station after the "Thriller" singer and hang up a plaque of him.

[Edited 11/6/10 18:55pm]

This would be cool. Any evidence its happened?

I don't think so. I live in Brooklyn and would be the first to visit there if it's up.

.....

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Swa said:

WaterInYourBath said:

I'm not going back on what I said by discussing this.....But I just have 1 question, and that's it: Why wouldn't they know about it?

To your point IF this was true - they might. But it still doesn't excuse the pain inflicted on the fans and people world wide - not to mention fans who committed suicide following his death.

But have you thought of the reverse - if it was true - how is it kept secret? With all the money being offered on stories about Michael when he was alive - someone could have/would have made a multimillion dollar deal on the proving he was alive. Secrets this big can never be kept.

I'm happy to review the evidence he is alive and judge it. Are you happy to accept he is dead though?

Of course not. That's not something I could ever be happy about. However, me not negating the idea that he's still alive doesn't mean I can't acknowledge him being killed last year. I'm open to both realities, since I am not 100% convinced either way.

Thanks for answering though. To respond to your first question: I can't give details on how he could be kept hidden (well, I could, though I'd rather not), but I don't believe it's impossible.

And in my opinion, the media is not trying to investigate hoax notions because that would mean he's still breathing somewhere, which is not what they want to sensationalize. There's a plethora of theories out there, but not one tabloid has jumped on it, unlike the ludicrous, defaming lies about him they still propagate easily. Why? Like I said, they want him gone and defeated.....

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I love this picture:

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WaterInYourBath said:

I love this picture:

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That's absolutely gorgeous!

.........Is it me or do his hands look odd?

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ali23 said:

WaterInYourBath said:

I love this picture:

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That's absolutely gorgeous!

.........Is it me or do his hands look odd?

[Edited 11/6/10 20:59pm]

From the Jackson Secret Vault site

mookie said:

From the Jackson Secret Vault site

[QUOTE]This track was NOT released by Mrs. Jackson, this is a dance remake created from unreleased masters in the JacksonSecretVault.com archives. We sincerely apologize to the fans for any confusion

Yeah but hours ago it was a "new unreleased Michael track".

Timmy84 said:

mookie said:

From the Jackson Secret Vault site

[QUOTE]This track was NOT released by Mrs. Jackson, this is a dance remake created from unreleased masters in the JacksonSecretVault.com archives. We sincerely apologize to the fans for any confusion

Yeah but hours ago it was a "new unreleased Michael track".

Fans sent them a letter protesting the site and the song

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah but hours ago it was a "new unreleased Michael track".

Fans sent them a letter protesting the site and the song

I see.

As I just read the thread in Music and More, it furthers my hope that one day, people will see the truth about the 1993 and 2005 cases and realize what really happened.

When one of the prosecutors admits it was a shakedown, then you know what the deal was

bboy87 said:

As I just read the thread in Music and More, it furthers my hope that one day, people will see the truth about the 1993 and 2005 cases and realize what really happened.

When one of the prosecutors admits it was a shakedown, then you know what the deal was

...

Que?

EmbattledWarrior said:

bboy87 said:

As I just read the thread in Music and More, it furthers my hope that one day, people will see the truth about the 1993 and 2005 cases and realize what really happened.

When one of the prosecutors admits it was a shakedown, then you know what the deal was

...

Que?

I sunk down in standom for a moment

I was talking about thread about the Prince symbol on the new cover and how some orgers reacted to it

bboy87 said:

EmbattledWarrior said:

...

Que?

I sunk down in standom for a moment

I was talking about thread about the Prince symbol on the new cover and how some orgers reacted to it

...

Wasn't that this thread

i ask because I was literally looking for the the thread in Music & more lol

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ali23 said:

WaterInYourBath said:

I love this picture:

[img:$uid]http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/183/87766bx8.jpg[/img:$uid]

That's absolutely gorgeous!

.........Is it me or do his hands look odd?

[Edited 11/6/10 20:59pm]

I think you mean his left hand. You can see the vitiligo patch that distinguishes itselt from the dark areas of his hand. There's actually another pic around his time period where his left hand is whiter than the right.

bboy87 said:

As I just read the thread in Music and More, it furthers my hope that one day, people will see the truth about the 1993 and 2005 cases and realize what really happened.

When one of the prosecutors admits it was a shakedown, then you know what the deal was

What hope? There's no hope for the guys in the Music and More side. It's very easy to see the truth. You dont have to be a fan to know the truth, you just have to read the evidence. Hear the phone conversation that Chandler dude had with his lawyer, read the court transcripts of 2005, and compare to it how the media was reporting the case. The committed haters (Mars & Co.) can't see the truth because they simply don't want to. It takes their fun away and they can't risk that because the false allegations are the only thing they can use in their Prince vs. Michael debate. They need to believe the false rumors because it's the only weight they have to defend their already-weak position. No weight, no discussion. And this place is all about winning a discussion, especially when the words Michael and Prince are used in the same thread.

MyLuv229 said:

bboy87 said:

As I just read the thread in Music and More, it furthers my hope that one day, people will see the truth about the 1993 and 2005 cases and realize what really happened.

When one of the prosecutors admits it was a shakedown, then you know what the deal was

What hope? There's no hope for the guys in the Music and More side. It's very easy to see the truth. You dont have to be a fan to know the truth, you just have to read the evidence. Hear the phone conversation that Chandler dude had with his lawyer, read the court transcripts of 2005, and compare to it how the media was reporting the case. The committed haters (Mars & Co.) can't see the truth because they simply don't want to. It takes their fun away and they can't risk that because the false allegations are the only thing they can use in their Prince vs. Michael debate. They need to believe the false rumors because it's the only weight they have to defend their already-weak position. No weight, no discussion. And this place is all about winning a discussion, especially when the words Michael and Prince are used in the same thread.

What absolute shite.

I was about to agree with Bboy until i read this.

The reason many here think guilty on Mike has ZERO to do with Prince. The media were vicious, many people were swayed to think guilty....and i hugely doubt they want to read court transcripts etc when they clearly don't care about the man. Believe it or not, people have lives.

Sure they're ill-informed, but that's because of the reasons above, not Prince ffs.

I never have a MJ V Prince debate because to me, it's childish. But i can tell you, i would debate a godly amount in favour of Prince without putting MJs persona down in the slightest because guess what? A personal life ain't got nothing to do with music and therefore wouldn't be the only thing to debate about.

Seriously, you're complaining about exactly what you're doing.

I decided to post a bit in here again as new things are cracking off and i feel sorry for bboy and others when they try and get talking about music and all this shit just wins instead. There is a great thing to do when you hear/read something you don't agree with, ignore or have a mature debate about it, not get emotional about your lord and saviour and make yourself look foolish because this post makes it look like you fear Prince...and that's just sad....they're just entertainers.

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WaterInYourBath said:

EmeraldSkies said:

Call me crazy but I actually prefer this cover over the original.

It feels more like a new MJ album.

bboy87 said:

motownlover said:

i remember him saying that he recorded videos of michael in the studio during invincible, if sony decides to release that that would be awesome.

so we could say that either another post humous album with different feel to it is already being worked on.

or he is adding tracks to invincible for next year i guess

I think that an expanded edition of Invincible is possible. Although not my favorite, it had potential but it fell to the wayside

I still believe it could've been edited down and remixed some months later and it would've fared better

maybe.....

1. Unbreakable

2. Invincible

3. Another Day

4. Break Of Dawn

5. Heaven Can Wait

6. You Rock My World

7. Butterflies

8. Speechless

9. Fall Again

10. Don't Walk Away

11. A Place With No Name

12. Whatever Happens

release Unbreakable, Heaven Can Wait, You Rock My World, Butterflies, and Whatever Happens, and the album could've done some serious numbers

... you missed out Heartbreaker.. woooahh..

1984.

WetDream said:

MyLuv229 said:

What hope? There's no hope for the guys in the Music and More side. It's very easy to see the truth. You dont have to be a fan to know the truth, you just have to read the evidence. Hear the phone conversation that Chandler dude had with his lawyer, read the court transcripts of 2005, and compare to it how the media was reporting the case. The committed haters (Mars & Co.) can't see the truth because they simply don't want to. It takes their fun away and they can't risk that because the false allegations are the only thing they can use in their Prince vs. Michael debate. They need to believe the false rumors because it's the only weight they have to defend their already-weak position. No weight, no discussion. And this place is all about winning a discussion, especially when the words Michael and Prince are used in the same thread.

What absolute shite.

I was about to agree with Bboy until i read this.

The reason many here think guilty on Mike has ZERO to do with Prince. The media were vicious, many people were swayed to think guilty....and i hugely doubt they want to read court transcripts etc when they clearly don't care about the man. Believe it or not, people have lives.

Sure they're ill-informed, but that's because of the reasons above, not Prince ffs.

I never have a MJ V Prince debate because to me, it's childish. But i can tell you, i would debate a godly amount in favour of Prince without putting MJs persona down in the slightest because guess what? A personal life ain't got nothing to do with music and therefore wouldn't be the only thing to debate about.

Seriously, you're complaining about exactly what you're doing.

I decided to post a bit in here again as new things are cracking off and i feel sorry for bboy and others when they try and get talking about music and all this shit just wins instead. There is a great thing to do when you hear/read something you don't agree with, ignore or have a mature debate about it, not get emotional about your lord and saviour and make yourself look foolish because this post makes it look like you fear Prince...and that's just sad....they're just entertainers.

[Edited 11/7/10 7:22am]

Exactly.

Written by Marlon and Tito, produced by Marlon.

bboy87 said:

@TeddyRiley1 Did you work on the new MJ song "Breaking News?"

@AngelaDF Yes I did...I hope you enjoy it. Thank you all for your support on this. It was hard not talking to yall.

so teddy did the breaking news track ? , the thing that bothered me was that mark ronson worked a vocal track, seems to me that they sugar coat verything to be able to release it.

im curious tho , and i have to order it on behalf of my mom so she can give it to me for christmas but still. when i found out friday i was pumped all day out of excitement while friday usualy is a sllow day for me