ratchetchan said:

Moonbeam said:

ratchetchan said:

Moonbeam said:

It just doesn't make any sense that you write a whole derogatory diatribe about me and yet I get the "ad hominem" label with my reply to you. That would also imply that you had a point in said diatribe, which I couldn't find other than basically saying that my opinion is wrong.

You STILL can't read.

May I add that for someone who is continually attempting to insult my intelligence, you may want to spend less time making sure the accent is properly placed in Ms. Knowles' name and more time learning to distinguish the word "too" from the word "to":

There's a clear angle to just about ALL of Beyoncé's songs and her work in general, you're just to stupid to catch it.

Given the nature of your statement, that is just TOO funny.

You better pick out typos to make yourself feel better. Actually I noticed that shortly after I posted it, however, since what I was saying was still clear, I didn't feel it was worth editing. Thank you for paying more attention to my post than I did, though.

And let's not forget this little morsel:

Anyway, I don't really care what you THINK is pathetic, considering it probably took you about three days to stir up that dusty brain and complete that thought.

It probably could have taken you three seconds to see that the time stamp of my reply came 6 hours after yours, while this reply of yours came 30 hours after mine. Is that your "ritmetic" failing you?

What does that have to do with anything? That was not a reference to how long it took you to return to the topic and reply. It was in reference to you being stupid and worthless.

Now you're just spiraling into self-parody. The irony of your insults to my intelligence making no sense is very entertaining! Perhaps you should get your daddy to manage you and hire a nebulous and extensive team of writers for your material, or is that already in place?

And you STILL can't read. That ALSO had nothing to do with the post that you are clearly unable to address. Sad.

Anyway, I'm done with you. It's starting to feel like punching a baby.

My ability to juxtapose letters on a keyboard into words and sentences that you can understand must be particularly baffling to you, then, if I can't read!

The only real content of your posts to me that aren't directly about me seems to consist of you saying that Beyonce's music has substance and a clear angle, a sentiment with which I wholeheartedly disagree. There really isn't anything more to say about it. I'm not going to tell you that your opinion is wrong, just that I disagree with it.

estelle81 said:

After watching this video: Alicia

wow, at first I thought this video was a spoof. This really is Beyonce.

What is the video about? It looks like they ran out of ideas for a video so they just let Beyonce dress up in a series of revealing outfits and just did a Beyonce "dress up" video.

What a waste of time that was... unless you are a man. Centerfold of a gentleman's magazine is on the horizon.

prodigalfan said:

estelle81 said:

After watching this video: Alicia

wow, at first I thought this video was a spoof. This really is Beyonce.

What is the video about? It looks like they ran out of ideas for a video so they just let Beyonce dress up in a series of revealing outfits and just did a Beyonce "dress up" video.

What a waste of time that was... unless you are a man. Centerfold of a gentleman's magazine is on the horizon.

You got it!

IT still can't read, apparently.

And LMFAOOOOOO @ Prince fans of all people being prudish over Beyoncé tributing 50s pin-ups. A fucking mess. And for a bunch of people who think they're so smart, y'all sure fail to grasp Bey's concepts EVERY TIME...

Dewrede said:

^ while i must agree that she's hot i don't like woman who act like that , it really puts me off it's just cheap and tacky [Edited 5/27/10 6:08am]

maybe you're just not ready for that jelly?

Christopher said:

Dewrede said:

^ while i must agree that she's hot i don't like woman who act like that , it really puts me off it's just cheap and tacky [Edited 5/27/10 6:08am]

maybe you're just not ready for that jelly?

Ha ha ha Christopher.

alicia would u marry me keys

I prefer Alicia Keys more than Beyonce. While Beyonce may have what it takes to move a dance floor it doesn't translate well at home. Alicia Keys can actually write danceable tracks and still manage to craft more memorable songs. I think Alicia Keys catalog will stand the test of time and Beyonce's will age badly.

HonestMan13 said:

I prefer Alicia Keys more than Beyonce. While Beyonce may have what it takes to move a dance floor it doesn't translate well at home. Alicia Keys can actually write danceable tracks and still manage to craft more memorable songs. I think Alicia Keys catalog will stand the test of time and Beyonce's will age badly.

When u base most your songs on old hits.............it makes sense.

Neither!

Graycap23 said:

HonestMan13 said:

I prefer Alicia Keys more than Beyonce. While Beyonce may have what it takes to move a dance floor it doesn't translate well at home. Alicia Keys can actually write danceable tracks and still manage to craft more memorable songs. I think Alicia Keys catalog will stand the test of time and Beyonce's will age badly.

When u base most your songs on old hits.............it makes sense.

Wait, wasn't there like only 1 album dedicated to "old school" romance music? By the way, I actually liked that period for her. She worked with Ray, Goodman and Brown, and did that song "You don' t know my name.

Reel said:

Graycap23 said:

When u base most your songs on old hits.............it makes sense.

Wait, wasn't there like only 1 album dedicated to "old school" romance music? By the way, I actually liked that period for her. She worked with Ray, Goodman and Brown, and did that song "You don' t know my name.

Exactly she hasn't been popping her coochie for the last two of her CD's like Beyonce. Beyonce isn't going to look good in 10 years of marriage doing 'Single Ladies' or 'Freakum Dress'. Alicia can come back and pull out most of her songs and they'll have a relevance to them that an audience can get behind.

I wonder if either of their music can stand the test of time like Anita's.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/wa...dfl0_iM-IY[/youtube]

And what the hell am I doing wrong...how come I can't embed a video into the thread?

ratchetchan said:

IT still can't read, apparently.

This is what you've been reduced to now? Come on, you can do better than that.

I see you also like Florence and the Machine. There's more substance to you than you let on.

I prefer Beyonce. Alicia - attempts to be a credible and profound songwriter - but I can't take lyrics like 'Some people want it all, but I want nothing at all if I aint got you' seriously. And she gets inspired from hair shampoo adverts when trying to write a genuine heartfelt love song - so cheesy beyond words.

both of them are not my cup of tea but alicia keys is one of the most OVERRATED artsist I have seen in years. The chick can sing better than most chicks, but vocally she is not MUCH. She struggles to hit big notes and she's always straining. she's an alto but she doesnt have the ability to hit sopranic notes (she tries tho). Her voice isnt that versatile either. She's also a bland pianist. another thing, her music ALL sounds the SAME. I cant distinct one song of hers from another.

Beyonce has an incredible voice, and a great performer. the chick CANT dance tho. she does no technical dancing. she does dance moves that high school girls perform @ pep rallies and school dances. not impressive at all. Her music is very generic and commercial, she plays it real safe with her music catalgoue. at least rihanna takes more risks with her music. Beyonce also claims she "writes her own music" where Im 99% sure that Beyonce just changes a word or two and they put her down in the songwriting credits.

Both of them are wack to me, But I guess Beyonce. she has more talent then alicia could ever have.

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Beyonce... incredible voice?? The high school girls in my local Baptist church puts Beyonce to shame in the vocal department.

I do like her dance moves, but as someone said... it is in the same category of high school pep rally and a little stripper dancer's moves mixed in to keep her main audience (men, and women who want the same effect on men as Beyonce has) enthralled.

If she does write her own songs... that is not saying a lot. Actually SHE doesn't have a lot to say if those are her own thoughts and words.

I'm sorry, just the years of work and practice that Alicia has obviously done to get to the point of her piano work is enough for me to choose her over Beyonce.

Her songs may sound similiar but the content really surprised me coming from such a young girl.

"I keep on falling in and out of love with you" -- Who here hasn't felt the exquisite torture of a bad love affair?

"Diary, your secrets are safe with me" a woman in love with a married man

"Samsonite man" (not a well known song) a man who is afraid of commitment and sabotages and packs up and leave just when things seemed to be going well.

Beyonce --- songs themes are I love you, I'm crazy for you, I need you to pay my bills, You are not good enough for me (you are a Booger Boo). The exception is Survivor which did speak to a lot of young women about self reliance and self esteem.

Now looks, I know a pretty face when I see it. Both women are pretty but I give it to Beyonce in the looks department. I can't speak on who has a better body. Neither are obese... that is as far as I can judge. I am straight female.. a man would have more valuable opinion on who is sexier looking.

but we aren't talking about looks... right? we are talking about musical talent.

I give it to Alicia for instrumentation and creativeness (song writing). Beyonce is showman ship.

sort of the same argument and conclusion when people compare MJ with Prince.

mancabdriver said:

I prefer Beyonce. Alicia - attempts to be a credible and profound songwriter - but I can't take lyrics like 'Some people want it all, but I want nothing at all if I aint got you' seriously. And she gets inspired from hair shampoo adverts when trying to write a genuine heartfelt love song - so cheesy beyond words.

Beyonce is the all around entertainer, but Alicia has better lyrical content.

It appears to me that no one really is a complete package anymore in terms of entertainment.

Look at it this way:

Beyonce: lovely voice...okay dance moves () ...crappy material.

Alicia: great instrumental skills...doesn't dance...voice struggles.

Ciara: hot dance moves...weak vocals.

If we could somehow combine all three, the end result would be a certified powerhouse.

MyNameIsPiper said:

It appears to me that no one really is a complete package anymore in terms of entertainment.

Look at it this way:

Beyonce: lovely voice...okay dance moves () ...crappy material.

Alicia: great instrumental skills...doesn't dance...voice struggles.

Ciara: hot dance moves...weak vocals.

If we could somehow combine all three, the end result would be a certified powerhouse.

+ Rihanna: Attractive girl, doesn't dance well..can't sing a note without the "auto-tune".

prodigalfan said:

Beyonce... incredible voice?? The high school girls in my local Baptist church puts Beyonce to shame in the vocal department.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...R6W1pKnQhk

I'll explain why she's a great singer later.

Pressure said:

prodigalfan said:

Beyonce... incredible voice?? The high school girls in my local Baptist church puts Beyonce to shame in the vocal department.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...R6W1pKnQhk

I'll explain why she's a great singer later.

And this is why, you will never be able to explain why Beyonce is a GREAT singer, because she is not.

prodigalfan said:

Pressure said:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...R6W1pKnQhk

I'll explain why she's a great singer later.

And this is why, you will never be able to explain why Beyonce is a GREAT singer, because she is not.

and here is a great singer who is working with spotty sound system.... yet you can still here that she has a great voice.

Colie Williams from D.C. working on her debut album.

NOw once again... if you are talking about facial features, great makeup and great weave.... well yeah, Beyonce hands down. But I thought we were talking about MUSIC, SINGING.

prodigalfan said:

Pressure said:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...R6W1pKnQhk

I'll explain why she's a great singer later.

And this is why, you will never be able to explain why Beyonce is a GREAT singer, because she is not.

so honestly, u clicked the link I posted and still dont think beyonce is a great singer?Jill Scott is a great power house soul vocalist with great range, But Beyonce has more vocal agility and versatality over Jill.

the reason why Beyonce is a great vocalist is because she is an all in one type singer. she may not have most powerful voice, but she makes up for it with her great range and tone/pitch control. Beyonce can also hit operatic notes.. Im not a jill scott fan so if Jill has been able to sing Opera can u please post a link? Not saying Bey sings better than Jil but the only thing Jill really has on Bey is power and low notes, (and emotion).. Bey pretty much beats her in every other cataegory. Power doesnt always equate better.

[Edited 6/4/10 20:30pm]

Pressure said:

prodigalfan said:

And this is why, you will never be able to explain why Beyonce is a GREAT singer, because she is not.

so honestly, u clicked the link I posted and still dont think beyonce is a great singer?Jill Scott is a great power house soul vocalist with great range, But Beyonce has more vocal agility and versatality over Jill.

the reason why Beyonce is a great vocalist is because she is an all in one type singer. she may not have most powerful voice, but she makes up for it with her great range and tone/pitch control. Beyonce can also hit operatic notes.. Im not a jill scott fan so if Jill has been able to sing Opera can u please post a link? Not saying Bey sings better than Jil but the only thing Jill really has on Bey is power and low notes, (and emotion).. Bey pretty much beats her in every other cataegory. Power doesnt always equate better.

[Edited 6/4/10 20:30pm]

You said that you were not a Jill Scott fan, so I guess you have not heard how versatile her voice really is. Beyonce CAN'T COME CLOSE TO BEING THE VOCALIST THAT JILL SCOTT IS....EVER!!! DO YOU HEAR ME??????!!!!!! Ok. I think when you are up to it, you really should check out some of Jill Scotts work, you just might fall in love with her vocal abilities.

Quotables:

"at least rihanna takes more risks with her music." [KIIIIIIII]

"the years of work and practice that Alicia has obviously done to get to the point of her piano work" [ROFL @ acting like Alicia is some world-class pianist. Beyoncé's vocal WORK > ]

""I keep on falling in and out of love with you" -- Who here hasn't felt the exquisite torture of a bad love affair?" [PARTICULARLY A KI!]

"I give it to Alicia for instrumentation and creativeness (song writing). [*CACKLES*]

"the only thing Jill really has on Bey is power and low notes" [NOPE! Ion know about that power either.]

"Beyonce CAN'T COME CLOSE TO BEING THE VOCALIST THAT JILL SCOTT IS....EVER!!! DO YOU HEAR ME??????!!!!!!" [Girl shut up. You mad and you sound a fool. ]

Oh, and:

Ratchetchan said:

Anyway, I'm done with you.

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LMAO at the suggestion that Beyonce is a better vocalist than Jill Scott. Hell i just got through watching Beyonce butcher If I Was a Boy on the Essence music festival. Not saying Beyonce isn't

a good vocalist but she isn't even in the same league as Jill vocally.