bboy87 said:

"Why is anybody trying to claim my title? Even though I've been dead 19 years I'm still the greatest! "

Timmy84 said:

In what way?

Your brain must be damaged by strange crack if you think that thriller is better than ghosts as a whole

if you dig the music of thriller and michael style of that time , its a matter of taste however , the short film of the ghosts from dancing , sounds effects, stroyline was so much better than thriller, There is no comparsion.

Thriller's despite its revolutionary affects on the music video medium was an abstract storyline comparing to ghosts, ghosts has so many different deep meanings,for me ghosts is the better short film...*hopes dearmother won't smach selfs again*

seeingvoices12 said:

for assuming my brain's damaged. Just not my preference. Sorry.

Timmy84 said:

Thriller the album is obviously a far bit better Blood On The Dancefloor, but Ghosts is miles better than Thriller in my opinion. On music alone, they're close.. Thriller is more funky and Ghosts more post-New Jack, but the short film? Ghosts trumps Thriller.

MJ's best mini-films:
1.) Thriller
2.) Bad
3.) The Way You Make Me Feel
4.) Who Is It
5.) Smooth Criminal
6.) Remember the Time
7.) Black or White
8.) Ghosts
9.) The entire Moonwalker short film
10.) You Rock My World

man WTF

i dont understand, maybe if you're a 9 year old ghosts is better. sure the plot of ghosts is better i guess (?) but thrillers got artistic merit and it's great to look at. ghosts will not age well. in ten years people are not gonna be talking about it.

dearmother said:

Like I said, it's a preference, some people look at things differently.

i'm probably not a good person to talk about his music vids. i think the minimovie idea could be good but he made it cheesy i love all the 80s music videos more on the whole, they just seem way more out there. shit nowadays is so predictable. i don't like the idea of dragging celebrities into your videos either.

my favorite videos

thriller
billie jean
leave me alone
beat it
the way you make me feel
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dearmother said:

That was another great bit from MOONWALKER, why did I miss that?

the whole concept of his body as an amusement park is just great

dearmother said:

Im not 9 years old

For me , ghosts is more artistic and Innovative,To say that ghosts didn't age well is absurd, Its mindblowing.

BklynBabe said:

my point exactly

dearmother said:

Yeah that was GENIUS. And then he awakes and trashes the place at the end. That was his symbolic way of saying "stop treating me like a circus."

For Me It's:
1) Thriller
2) Scream
3) Beat It
4) Bad
5) Remember the Time

Dirty Diana gets an honorable mention.

Yes, I think MJ was the greatest entertainer in the last 50 years.
He had it all, the voice, the moves, the style, the music, the lyrics and the looks.

He could never top thriller and I don't think he tried to. Media always says that because they needed some kind of benchmark for him. How can you beat the best selling album of all time if it's your own?
MJ hardly bought out less stuff compared to other artists but his sales were amazing, despite the press crucifying him after his trials and tribulations. The music industry had changed so things can never stay "the same."

He also had a gift for bringing talented artists together for a good cause.

While there are many greats there can only be on King of an era. I believe it was him.
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this is gonna sound weird but theres something about the end of beat it that makes me real . he's just doing the same dance move over and over and then it cuts out. i get that same feeling with

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dearmother said:

That GIF right there is sad.

rsggamer said:

So far, yes!

To this extent, Michael was (and currently is) bigger than Frank, Elvis, Fred, The Beatles, & James.

Please quote me.

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Timmy84 said:

Yeah

TonyVanDam said:

Michael was on his own planet as far as entertainment goes.

QUOTE ME!

Timmy84 said:

1. Check my EDIT. I added Frank & Fred to my quotes.

2. MJ was definitely on his own planet. But he never had his own Kool-Aid flavor inspired by him.

TonyVanDam said:

Why would he need Kool-Aid, he was a damn California Raisin singing Marvin's song at one point!

I do think he was the greatest.
Michael & Prince both have been huge influnces in my life.

do we have any older members who wanna chime in?

i'm always gonna prefer michael but that's b/c i'm an '80's baby.

seeingvoices12 said:

The "Thriller" video is amazing and it was revolutionary for its time,but "Ghosts" takes it to a whole new level! It's a dark,intriguing film with a strong message too.The dancing is superb,too.I actually think MJ's acting is very good,too.He seems very relaxed and comfortable in this role.

dearmother said:

Same here, naturally '70s, '80s and '90s babies will prefer MJ.

my moms a baby boomer and she thinks i'm nuts now, being so mj obsessed

MOL said:

Yep, I feel a stronger stage presence from her than I did from MJ, and I'm not the only one who feels that way.

As for videos, to me it's all about "Smooth Criminal"- the dancing in that is just unbelieveable. Next up would be "Beat It", "Billie Jean" and "Leave Me Alone". I like "Thriller", but I just can't get into "Ghosts" at all. Sorry.