trueiopian said:

OH! Is THAT why you was banned?!

No wonder, I was looking at the Soul Music thread and saw your name scratched out. I was like "the fuck?!"

Timmy84 said:

No, that's not why I got banned
I got banned for speaking my mind and they're so sensitive
It's like loosen the f--k it's a discussion board geez!

trueiopian said:

OIC.
If only you were a mod over there.
Little Steven's my boy over there because he speaks his mind. Unfortunately if we do, it's like we're attacking Mike but we're not.

are you ever a mj fan because you don't have him listed as ur favorite artists yet u have janet listed.

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

Well, I was

are u even old enough to know any of his music.

what do u expect though...ur just a troll...no wonder u were banned. u always have smart ass things to say bout michael. Hey, I'm a big fan of michael's but i know he's not perfect/got issues to work though. If ur gonna go over there and start shit with not knowing what u r talkin bout then duh u gonna get banned. I think that's the issue and the problem. It's with any celebrity. Haters act like they know everything about them and then fans feel like they have to defend themselves /their celebrity. Who cares about their personal life...why can't we focus on the music/entertainment?
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All I have to say is that this tour is very poorly organized.

Instead of putting all 50 shows in one place, why didn't he turn this whole thing out into a world tour. None of this mess would be happening at all, and people wouldn't be pissed off like they are now.

Most people can handle getting their tickets refunded in case there's a cancellation- if Michael was to perform in the city they live in (If he had gone about the world tour- going to different city approach). What they cannot stand is that they're airfare and hotel money has been wasted now- whichi is the case for the London shows- as most of the fans are coming from all over the world to see his show

For someone who's been in the business for 45 years, you would think he would know better by now on how to do planning for tours, since he's done tours with his brothers- and did three solo career tours too
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I did expect this coming, not because I believe that Mj will not be able to do the shows as some haters say here because the shows have been postponed only 5 days ,This because its MJ, this shit always happen in career, Im not defending mj for delaying the shows ,it was a devastated decision for those who booked hotels, travel tickets...etc but anyone who happens to be a fan of mj for years know that shit like this might happen , the shows will happen in the end.

suga10 said:

This ain't the Michael of the Jackson 5, OTW or Thriller. That Michael died on us a long time ago. The thing is you could see chaos happening before the concerts even started because with this Michael it is all about chaos and mess.

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

Am I old enough to know his music? What a stupid question...

and I'm no troll
I was actually a fan
I would just voice my opinion and I was quite blunt on that board which the members/mods didn't like. They expect all the members to agree on one thing and not say anything negative about Michael. Which is stupid! What is the point of a discussion board if there's only a one sided discussion?

He's postponed the gigs to spend more time with the kids...not his, though...

whatsgoingon said:

Yeah something snapped a while ago. He hasn't performed entirely live since 1988.

I wonder if it was the effect of all those nose jobs throughout the years. A singer being able to breathe properly through their nose is pretty important, and I can't imagine trying to breath through my mouth all the time singing on that stage with tiny nostrils holes. Hell who knows what the **** is the real deal with the nose, because I'm sure its bound to have an affect on his ability to perform live throughout the entire show- and he hasn't done that in ages. That's why the man probably mimes more than ever since the 90s.
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suga10 said:

Damn, when he fucks up, you don't hesitate to go after him. When things are good, you shut up, but when things go bad, there you are going hardcore after the guy.

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ur profile says that ur 17 so that means u were born in 91? I was born in 85, i remember dangerous and history era so you probably would only remember invincible, if that. That's with any artist's hardcore fans though. I've noticed a lot of the younger fans are like that.

Timmy84 said:

I bet it's boring as hell without me

BoOTyLiCioUs said:[quote]

Eh? So your underestimating my knowledge on music based on my age
So what if you lived through the eras of music that I didn't! Do you want a cookie or somethin'?

right, that's the problem with pop culture in america. They put this stars on this pedestal and as soon as they mess up they rip them to pieces...especially black celebrities. look how they treated michael phelps, he made a mistake...move on. He still made an once in a lifetime achievement. That was incredible to witness that live though.

No thanks. I don't have a problem with people being critical of Michael..he should of had people around him like that. I do have a problem with people who act like they know what they are talking bout and find their resources from tabloids. As well, as people who think that all his fans are blind followers. It's not true...u hav crazy fans with every celebrity, not just michael's.

trueiopian said:

Well none of my non-MJ threads have got many responses. I posted Patti's live version of "If Only You Knew" from SOUL TRAIN, ain't got no responses yet but the MJJC responded.

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whatsgoingon said:

For the last 20 yrs things have been more or less bad, anyway. Even the things that seem good are not quite what they seem, i.e ambigious marriages and children.

suga10 said:

Nah having the shows in one venue is much more likely to happen than him moving around. Where there is an announcement like this, approach the carrier involved and they may be able toa assist with changing flights without penalty. Hotels may give some leniency too. Yes it's a hassle, people have to sort out alot of stuff, but better that it's a month and a half out so people have some time to reorganise than a few days before.

Artists amend shows all the time but he really, REALLY should have locked in those early dates. Talk about giving the doubters ammunition!

I was actually excited and beginning to think he had pulled his shit together after seeing the rehearsal vid. Obviously if I had tix for the early shows I'd be beyond pissed. But you have to admit the timeframe is coming up REAL fast. 7 weeks has become 8. I hope for the sake of all the fans who bought tix that these shows still go ahead.

So apparently Kenny Ortega said that has preparation to do for Footloose, that's why the concerts have been post-poned.He needs more time??

mynameisnotsusan said:

He could have done a world tour- He doesn't have to cram all the dates all at once. He could have spread it into different legs and put in a resonable gap time between all those legs for him to relax and stuff.
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suga10 said:

He doesn't want to do a world tour! He doesn't want to travel every second day! How hard is that to understand??

suga10 said:

But that's what he's basically done. These 50 shows are spread over an 8 month period with a couple of months gap in between. It's been organised like a normal tour - minus ..errr..the touring part I don't think he's doing more than 2 shows a week, so the schedule is not so heavy. Remaining in one venue is much easier logistically than shifting from city to city every other day, and not having to cope with the travel is to his benefit.

PatrickS77 said:

the stage didn't arrive on time so they canceled the first show

PatrickS77 said:

Not travel every other day. He could have stay in the UK for a month, and then some time off for a couple of weeks to have rest, and then go about do some shows in France in a bunch of cities for about a month.

Hello. There's way to make everything work in life.

That's a more likely scenario, compared to doing all 50 shows at once in London- when there's more chances of being cancellation.
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