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1 Rock With You 2 Scream 3 Beat It 4 Billie Jean 5 You Rock My World 6 Off The Wall 7 Thriller 8 You Are Not Alone/ One Day In Your Life/ Music And Me/ With A Child's Heart 9 Gone Too Soon 10 J5 Medley:ABC/ I Want You Back/ The Love You Save/ I'll Be There 11 In The Closet 12 Dont Stop Til You Get Enough 13 Dirty Diana/ Bad/ The Way You Make Me Feel 14 PYT 15 Heaven Can Wait 16 Remember the Time 17 I Cant Help It 18 You Cant Win 19 Shake Your Body (Down to the Ground) 20 Butterflies 21 Fly Away 23 Man In The Mirror 24 Human Nature 25 Never Can Say Goodbye  I would kill to see this set list | |
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^ oh $hit!! I forgot SMOOTH CRIMINAL | |
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Anyone else worried that these shows will somehow wind up another embarassing disaster for Michael??? |
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MattyJam said: Anyone else worried that these shows will somehow wind up another embarassing disaster for Michael???
Unless for some reason he cancels a bunch of them because of "a mysterious virus/illness", not really... | |
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I just think my faith in his ability to deliver something this major has somewhat deteriorated after almost a decade of PR nightmares... |
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MattyJam said: I just think my faith in his ability to deliver something this major has somewhat deteriorated after almost a decade of PR nightmares...
I understand. It hasn't been a really good time for Michael in general at all in this era. But I'm confident he can do it. [Edited 3/21/09 17:51pm] | |
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LondonStyle said: unique said: there are hundreds of singers and musicians who are parents and are still able to perform live. it's not even proven that the kids are even his. debbie rowe confirmed they never even spent a night in bed together, nevermind sex. even she doesn't know if the sperm was MJ's or someone elses. it's not even clear who the mother of the third child was, nevermind the father. he doesn't really paint a good picture of what the example of a good parent is, so i wouldn't use that as an excuse for not performing a concert in 12 years Well not the way Lionel Richie was talking about him last night on British TV ...he did not have to bring Michael into the conversation with J.Ross but he did..and was happy to talk about him...and Mike did take the time out to bring up his kids...he speaks to him on a regular basis... Now I would take LR word on that better than an tabloid newspaper or gossip rag ...so that the reason he's not been touring.... End off...  | |
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MattyJam said: Anyone else worried that these shows will somehow wind up another embarassing disaster for Michael???
Actually I have a completely different feeling about this. Usually I can feel when something is going to a be crap and dissapointing, and it's usually right. But I truly get the feeling this is going to be like old times (Not necessarily his dancing/singing/performing ability, but the overall feel of the shows) | |
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Arnotts said: MattyJam said: Anyone else worried that these shows will somehow wind up another embarassing disaster for Michael???
Actually I have a completely different feeling about this. Usually I can feel when something is going to a be crap and dissapointing, and it's usually right. But I truly get the feeling this is going to be like old times (Not necessarily his dancing/singing/performing ability, but the overall feel of the shows) I'm really interested in a couple of things the stage set up set list the band the costumes "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: Arnotts said: Actually I have a completely different feeling about this. Usually I can feel when something is going to a be crap and dissapointing, and it's usually right. But I truly get the feeling this is going to be like old times (Not necessarily his dancing/singing/performing ability, but the overall feel of the shows) I'm really interested in a couple of things the stage set up set list the band the costumes Yes the costumes are definitley number one. I'd love costumes with the whole Ebony magazine feel, especially the top hat instead of the usual fedora. And wouldn't it be great if he had a complete hair makeover too. I hope he comes up with a whole new look for a new era, his whole long dead straight hair thing is so associated with the last decade of craziness it would be good to start afresh. | |
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Arnotts said: bboy87 said: I'm really interested in a couple of things the stage set up set list the band the costumes Yes the costumes are definitley number one. I'd love costumes with the whole Ebony magazine feel, especially the top hat instead of the usual fedora. And wouldn't it be great if he had a complete hair makeover too. I hope he comes up with a whole new look for a new era, his whole long dead straight hair thing is so associated with the last decade of craziness it would be good to start afresh. As long it's nothing like the Dangerous Tour leotard or the HIStory Tour costumes  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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The clothes will probably be more modernized, he'll just come in with simple black and white outfits and just perform, lol. I don't expect nothing real fancy. Then again, this IS Michael Jackson. | |
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Timmy84 said: The clothes will probably be more modernized, he'll just come in with simple black and white outfits and just perform, lol. I don't expect nothing real fancy. Then again, this IS Michael Jackson.
The outfits from the Ebony photoshoot were great and some from the Vogue photoshoot 
without the huge gold ring 
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^^ It'll be nice if he wore those threads at the concert. It makes him classic yet still youthful, ya know, in terms of what he brings to the stage.  | |
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MattyJam said: Anyone else worried that these shows will somehow wind up another embarassing disaster for Michael???
 But I could be wrong! We'll see how it goes.."I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015 | |
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i didn't know lionel ritchie was on the gong show | |
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MattyJam said: Anyone else worried that these shows will somehow wind up another embarassing disaster for Michael???
Me | |
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Hmmm....Here's my view...
1)...Anyone shocked (or dismayed) that Michael Jackson could break Prince's 21 Nights at the 02 to 50 (plus?) shows may have underestimated the man's popularity in Europe...In Europe, the man is a GOD...Folks from France to Switzerland have been lining up to see Jackson...Now whether or not he can pull off 50 nights in the US remains to be seen...His popularity has been hit severly in the States...But I can see him doing two to five sell-out dates in New York, LA or Chicago...Personally, I think he would be better off setting up a big resiedency in Vegas... 2)...There is a way to have a debate without resorting to bait posts...Now some folks have made some very clear headed posts, others have come to rain on the parade...But here's the truth... I'm not expecting MJ to be anything like he was in his '20s...I'm not expecting tornado spins and moonwalks straight out of Motown 25 in the early '80s...All I want to see is the man sing LIVE...No lipsynching... 3)....There are ways to tell the honest, level headed MJ fans from the ones who are not dealing with reality...Anyone claiming that the Madison Square Garden shows were in keeping with MJ's great live-stage legacy or citing it as a proper show is off base...To be kind, those shows were lackluster...lipsynching and stiff...filled with the same routines he has been doing for 25 plus years....If I'm paying money to see a MJ concert it's not too much to ask for the man to sing live...No need for the larger than life gigs...Show off the great voice, do a few moves and have the background dancers carry the weight...An unplugged segment would also be a great curve pitch from the regualer video recreations he has been known to do in past years...Could you imagine an acoustic version of "Human Nature," "Stranger In Moscow" or "Butterflies?" ....That would be worth the price of admission... 4)...I think after all of the negative stuff the man's been through (and some of it by MJ's doing), Jackson deserves some positive vibes...I'm pulling for the man...I'm hoping that he can actually make those dates given his past health problems and the fact that he has stayed away from performing for close to a decade...I'm keeping my fingers cross that he can pull off his comeback much in the same his peers (Prince and Madonna) have done over the last few years.... [Edited 3/22/09 9:23am] | |
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murph said: Hmmm....Here's my view...
1)...Anyone shocked (or dismayed) that Michael Jackson could break Prince's 21 Nights at the 02 to 50 (plus?) shows may have underestimated the man's popularity in Europe...In Europe, the man is a GOD...Folks from France to Switzerland have been lining up to see Jackson...Now whether or not he can pull off 50 nights in the US remains to be seen...His popularity has been hit severly in the States...But I can see him doing two to five sell-out dates in New York, LA or Chicago...Personally, I think he would be better off setting up a big resiedency in Vegas... 2)...There is a way to have a debate without resorting to bait posts...Now some folks have made some very clear headed posts, others have come to rain on the parade...But here's the truth... I'm not expecting MJ to be anything like he was in his '20s...I'm not expecting tornado spins and moonwalks straight out of Motown 25 in the early '80s...All I want to see is the man sing LIVE...No lipsynching... 3)....There are ways to tell the honest, level headed MJ fans from the ones who are not dealing with reality...Anyone claiming that the Madison Square Garden shows were in keeping with MJ's great live-stage legacy or citing it as a proper show is off base...To be kind, those shows were lackluster...lipsynching and stiff...filled with the same routines he has been doing for 25 plus years....If I'm paying money to see a MJ fans it's not too much to ask for the man to sing live...No need for the larger than life gigs...Show off the great voice, do a few moves and have the background dancers carry the weight...An unplugged segment would also be a great curve pitch from the regualer video recreations he has been known to do in past years...Could you imagine an acoustic version of "Human Nature," "Stranger In Moscow" or "Butterflies?" ....That would be worth the price of admission... 4)...I think after all of the negative stuff the man's been through (and some of it by MJ's doing), Jackson deserves some positive vibes...I'm pulling for the man...I'm hoping that he can actually make those dates given his past health problems and the fact that he has stayed away from performing for close to a decade...I'm keeping my fingers cross that he can pull off his comeback much in the same his peers (Prince and Madonna) have done over the last few years.... [Edited 3/22/09 9:21am] | |
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murph said: Hmmm....Here's my view...
1)...Anyone shocked (or dismayed) that Michael Jackson could break Prince's 21 Nights at the 02 to 50 (plus?) shows may have underestimated the man's popularity in Europe...In Europe, the man is a GOD...Folks from France to Switzerland have been lining up to see Jackson...Now whether or not he can pull off 50 nights in the US remains to be seen...His popularity has been hit severly in the States...But I can see him doing two to five sell-out dates in New York, LA or Chicago...Personally, I think he would be better off setting up a big resiedency in Vegas... 2)...There is a way to have a debate without resorting to bait posts...Now some folks have made some very clear headed posts, others have come to rain on the parade...But here's the truth... I'm not expecting MJ to be anything like he was in his '20s...I'm not expecting tornado spins and moonwalks straight out of Motown 25 in the early '80s...All I want to see is the man sing LIVE...No lipsynching... 3)....There are ways to tell the honest, level headed MJ fans from the ones who are not dealing with reality...Anyone claiming that the Madison Square Garden shows were in keeping with MJ's great live-stage legacy or citing it as a proper show is off base...To be kind, those shows were lackluster...lipsynching and stiff...filled with the same routines he has been doing for 25 plus years....If I'm paying money to see a MJ concert it's not too much to ask for the man to sing live...No need for the larger than life gigs...Show off the great voice, do a few moves and have the background dancers carry the weight...An unplugged segment would also be a great curve pitch from the regualer video recreations he has been known to do in past years...Could you imagine an acoustic version of "Human Nature," "Stranger In Moscow" or "Butterflies?" ....That would be worth the price of admission... 4)...I think after all of the negative stuff the man's been through (and some of it by MJ's doing), Jackson deserves some positive vibes...I'm pulling for the man...I'm hoping that he can actually make those dates given his past health problems and the fact that he has stayed away from performing for close to a decade...I'm keeping my fingers cross that he can pull off his comeback much in the same his peers (Prince and Madonna) have done over the last few years.... [Edited 3/22/09 9:23am] As always, A great post, I completely agree.  MICHAEL JACKSON
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March 22, 2009 - According to reports from Malaysian media today, an official with AEG Live said China is Michael Jackson's most desired destination if his farewell tour extends to Asia. The official told Guang Ming Daily that Michael Jackson missed Chinese destinations in his last two world tours in the 1990's. Millions of fans in China, which has population of 1.3 billion and hosts the magnificent Olympics in 2008, never got chance in the past to see Michael Jackson perform live on the Chinese mainland. Now AEG also has got offers from promoters all over Asian regions, including Taiwan, Hong Kong, Japan, Singapore, and Malaysia. If "This Is It" tour does extend, Jackson may come to Asia in the second half of 2010 and hold two concerts in each country. Japan will probably be the first destination to kick off Jackson's Asian tour. But Guang Ming Daily said many Malaysian promoters are still hesitate to welcome the King of Pop since each concert will require 5 million British pounds for his performance alone, as much as what he got from each London gig. There will be more costs for promoters to consider, including production and promotion fees. Malaysian promoters are worried about the fact that even though they could sell out all the dates, they will still suffer loss in the end. And Asian promoters will also have to consider the risks brought by their conservative governments, which may decide to cancel the shows at the last minute. MICHAEL JACKSON
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I also voted, but not for one single song, he´s done. These wil get plenty votes. I voted for those he´s never done, hoping that at least one will get enough votes to be included in the show.
My set list goes as follows: Butterflies Break of dawn Heaven can wait Whatever happens Can t help it Someone put your hand out SMile Little Susie She drives me wild Jam Who is it Give into me etc. Can´t remember the other ones. I regret not voting for Childhood. I would looooove to see the planned performance with Marcel Marceau so much. At the end, there is a footage of the two of them. [Edited 3/22/09 12:09pm] "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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Annika said: It seems like the bottom line is that you really, really want to see him cancel because he's a diva. You have no legitimate historical reason to think he will (he never has before, and he has never been described as anything but totally professional by anyone he has worked with), so you're trying to draw links to completely unrelated behaviour to make yourself feel better. Is that a fair summary? If he hasn't toured for 12 years, do you not think it'll be a bit of a struggle for him to perform for 50 nights without the need to cancel at least one show? I don't expect him to complete the full 50... And I don't see what the big fuss is about him doing so many gigs... Prince did 35 (guessing he did roughly 14 aftershows?) in 6 weeks (6 per week). MJs "record run" goes from July to next February (7 per month)... no comparison really... We ain't from Hollywood, so you know it's all good | |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: The clothes will probably be more modernized, he'll just come in with simple black and white outfits and just perform, lol. I don't expect nothing real fancy. Then again, this IS Michael Jackson.
The outfits from the Ebony photoshoot were great and some from the Vogue photoshoot
without the huge gold ring
Can't beat a bit of airbrush tanning! We ain't from Hollywood, so you know it's all good | |
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harveya said: Annika said: It seems like the bottom line is that you really, really want to see him cancel because he's a diva. You have no legitimate historical reason to think he will (he never has before, and he has never been described as anything but totally professional by anyone he has worked with), so you're trying to draw links to completely unrelated behaviour to make yourself feel better. Is that a fair summary? If he hasn't toured for 12 years, do you not think it'll be a bit of a struggle for him to perform for 50 nights without the need to cancel at least one show? I don't expect him to complete the full 50... And I don't see what the big fuss is about him doing so many gigs... Prince did 35 (guessing he did roughly 14 aftershows?) in 6 weeks (6 per week). MJs "record run" goes from July to next February (7 per month)... no comparison really... Read my post again.
I do think it will be hard for him to do all 50 for health reasons, and I've said this several times. What I don't think will happen is him cancelling shows just because he's a diva/feels the rules don't apply to him. That's what my post was about. | |
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Annika said: harveya said: If he hasn't toured for 12 years, do you not think it'll be a bit of a struggle for him to perform for 50 nights without the need to cancel at least one show? I don't expect him to complete the full 50... And I don't see what the big fuss is about him doing so many gigs... Prince did 35 (guessing he did roughly 14 aftershows?) in 6 weeks (6 per week). MJs "record run" goes from July to next February (7 per month)... no comparison really... Read my post again.
I do think it will be hard for him to do all 50 for health reasons, and I've said this several times. What I don't think will happen is him cancelling shows just because he's a diva/feels the rules don't apply to him. That's what my post was about.  | |
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First off, i would like to apologise and thank Jeffiner for taking the flak of my "pathetic" post on the original thread, very unfair treatment of an orger who gave and gives an objective view.
Secondly, thanks to the moderator that pulled the thread. Thirdly, a pat on the back to myself, for throwing a spanner in the works "sheepish grin" ok, I admit the 2nd and 3rd points are almost baiting or trolling, but it is seriously time people woke up abit. I have read bits of Uniques posts, and think it is great to see someone who is accused of baiting, having the time to explain their posts, and i am naturally delighted to see Jeffiner agrees with alot of Uniques posts as well. I was wrong about 150 people at the press conference, for all i know, maybe there was 1 million, but it does not take away from the fact that Jacksons appearance, for approx 3 minutes, would have been funny as a "Spitting Image" sketch... Hoever, in reality, it is not. To put the record straight about my objectivity, or subjectivity as some would call it. 1. Billie Jean is still to this day one of my favorite songs and videos, i could rant on about it for hours 2. I have seen Jackson live, on the Bad tour in 1988, apart from Guns N Roses (1993), worst concert I have ever witnessed. 3. my brother told me a few hours ago that he was offered two tickets for 380 pounds sterling for september, ah well, you can imagine my reply
Finally, I would like to say this, if MJ can start this tour off, and blows all our socks off with showmanship, talent, energy etc like the days before, I promise to eat my realistic words...even if it is only for the first 3 shows To be continued...(if I am not banned obviously  )
PS LondonStyle, are you Wolfie in disguise? http://www.youtube.com/wa...Qyd1wN-qew If it were not for insanity, I would be sane.
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murph said: Hmmm....Here's my view...
1)...Anyone shocked (or dismayed) that Michael Jackson could break Prince's 21 Nights at the 02 to 50 (plus?) shows may have underestimated the man's popularity in Europe...In Europe, the man is a GOD...Folks from France to Switzerland have been lining up to see Jackson...Now whether or not he can pull off 50 nights in the US remains to be seen...His popularity has been hit severly in the States...But I can see him doing two to five sell-out dates in New York, LA or Chicago...Personally, I think he would be better off setting up a big resiedency in Vegas... 2)...There is a way to have a debate without resorting to bait posts...Now some folks have made some very clear headed posts, others have come to rain on the parade...But here's the truth... I'm not expecting MJ to be anything like he was in his '20s...I'm not expecting tornado spins and moonwalks straight out of Motown 25 in the early '80s...All I want to see is the man sing LIVE...No lipsynching... 3)....There are ways to tell the honest, level headed MJ fans from the ones who are not dealing with reality...Anyone claiming that the Madison Square Garden shows were in keeping with MJ's great live-stage legacy or citing it as a proper show is off base...To be kind, those shows were lackluster...lipsynching and stiff...filled with the same routines he has been doing for 25 plus years....If I'm paying money to see a MJ concert it's not too much to ask for the man to sing live...No need for the larger than life gigs...Show off the great voice, do a few moves and have the background dancers carry the weight...An unplugged segment would also be a great curve pitch from the regualer video recreations he has been known to do in past years...Could you imagine an acoustic version of "Human Nature," "Stranger In Moscow" or "Butterflies?" ....That would be worth the price of admission... 4)...I think after all of the negative stuff the man's been through (and some of it by MJ's doing), Jackson deserves some positive vibes...I'm pulling for the man...I'm hoping that he can actually make those dates given his past health problems and the fact that he has stayed away from performing for close to a decade...I'm keeping my fingers cross that he can pull off his comeback much in the same his peers (Prince and Madonna) have done over the last few years.... [Edited 3/22/09 9:23am] Agree with everything you said,especially the part about the acoustic segment. | |
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Each show soldout immediatly.He hasn't done a concert tour in The US for 20 years. SO we are really in depression when it comes to Michael. I'm thinking since he only wants to do a few shows why not do a few on each major continent.
He has several months of shows in London. Maybe do 20 or so shows at SHae Stadium in New York. DO 40 shows at The Tokyo Dome. DO 10 shows at the stadium in Sydney and to give everybody in Europe a fair shot he'll do it in his hottest spot in Berlin Germany. This time in a stadium for a month. THat's my idea for Michael's final set of shows. Working up a purple sweat. | |
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Arnotts said: Yes the costumes are definitley number one. I'd love costumes with the whole Ebony magazine feel, especially the top hat instead of the usual fedora. Appreciation for the "Willy Wonka" top hat look...One of my favorite outfits from that shoot! 
And this one, too: 
Is it completely pathetic that I'd rock that jacket??? Honey, stop talking and just create the music. | |
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