TonyVanDam said: krayzie said: Why do african americans prefer MJ over Prince ?
For the moment (some thanks to Timbaland), Madonna sounds more "black", "urban", and/or "hood" than Michael or Prince put together. That is sad as hell right there I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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TonyVanDam said: krayzie said: Why do african americans prefer MJ over Prince ?
For the moment (some thanks to Timbaland), Madonna sounds more "black", "urban", and/or "hood" than Michael or Prince put together. WHAAAAAT?! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: OK, I don't bring MJ up very much to black folk but I am surprised at how little love Prince does get sometimes. I grew up assuming that most black folk loved Prince and so when I would bring him up thinkin I was about to get in a killer conversation about how great the man and his music is, I usually ended up nearly getting killed In my expeirience, there has been a serious lack of love for P among some of the black people I have known. Thought it would have been a given, but it's not. Maybe it's an LA thing....
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jn2 said: Maybe for the same reasons for which Jimi Hendrix wasn't a hero for the Afro Americans.. ( not only Afro-Americans but non-musicians black folks in general I think..).
[Edited 4/21/08 12:25pm] That's a pretty good answer | |
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Maybe they like michael music more than prince
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purplecam said: TonyVanDam said: For the moment (some thanks to Timbaland), Madonna sounds more "black", "urban", and/or "hood" than Michael or Prince put together. That is sad as hell right there But it's the ugly truth. Prince's Planet Earth wasn't worth the food stamps. MJ's Thriller 25 is basically Michael living off of past glory, plus remix versions of classics that only the children & grandchildren of long time Michael fans would like. Right now, Madonna is launching Hard Candy, which is THE most hip-hop/hip-pop/"hood" album of her career (more so than Bedtime Stories for that matter). Despite the potential of Hard Candy to provoke division among Madonna's long-time gay fans, the album will give her black audience a "hood" record to jam to, which is something Michael & Prince haven't done in a while. At least the main single 4 minutes is above the 95 BPM mark, thank goodness! [Edited 4/21/08 13:20pm] | |
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TonyVanDam said: purplecam said: That is sad as hell right there But it's the ugly truth. Prince's Planet Earth wasn't worth the food stamps. MJ's Thriller 25 is basically Michael living off of past glory, plus remix versions of classics that only the children & grandchildren of long time Michael fans would like. Right now, Madonna is launching Hard Candy, which is THE most hip-hop/hip-pop/"hood" album of her career (more so than Bedtime Stories for that matter). Despite the potential of Hard Candy to provoke division among Madonna's long-time gay fans, the album will give her black audience a "hood" record to jam to, which is something Michael & Prince haven't done in a while. At least the main single 4 minutes is above the 95 BPM mark, thank goodness! [Edited 4/21/08 13:20pm] Nobody in the hood is playing 4 minutes! That's not Gangsta, Tony! THAT'S VERY NOT GANGSTA! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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krayzie said: jn2 said: Maybe for the same reasons for which Jimi Hendrix wasn't a hero for the Afro Americans.. ( not only Afro-Americans but non-musicians black folks in general I think..).
That's a pretty good answer I'm gonna have to second that answer also. I'm an artist & I hate to say it, any music that has too much Electric Guitar is deemed as "White Music". Whenever I play Jimi Hendrix, my Black friends would say "Why are U playing that white boy music?!". The same is said when I'm listening to any Guitar Heavy Prince music. It's simple & I don't wanna stereo type all of us Black people...but the majority of Black Folks DO NOT DIG ROCK SOUNDING MUSIC or HEAVY GUITAR MUSIC. I went to a BB King concert a couple of years ago with my mom & I swear to U, we were 2 of the only 15 Black people in that 10,000 seating place. The rest were white people. Why??? I have no idea. I blame our Black Radio Stations & B.E.T....they simply don't give Black Artists who don't do "Hip Hop" or "R&B" a chance. For that reason. most blacks I know don't know much about Prince other than Purple Rain. Michael Jackson got played more than Prince because his music was deemed more "Black" than Prince. I hope this will change someday. | |
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TonyVanDam said: But it's the ugly truth.
Prince's Planet Earth wasn't worth the food stamps. MJ's Thriller 25 is basically Michael living off of past glory, plus remix versions of classics that only the children & grandchildren of long time Michael fans would like. Right now, Madonna is launching Hard Candy, which is THE most hip-hop/hip-pop/"hood" album of her career (more so than Bedtime Stories for that matter). Despite the potential of Hard Candy to provoke division among Madonna's long-time gay fans, the album will give her black audience a "hood" record to jam to, which is something Michael & Prince haven't done in a while. At least the main single 4 minutes is above the 95 BPM mark, thank goodness! [Edited 4/21/08 13:20pm] It's easy to claim that if you're Madonna when you're working with some of the hottest hip-hop/r&b producers over the course of the decade. Prince couldn't do a "hood" record if you spotted him the h, o and o. That's not necessarily a bad thing. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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bboy87 said: TonyVanDam said: But it's the ugly truth. Prince's Planet Earth wasn't worth the food stamps. MJ's Thriller 25 is basically Michael living off of past glory, plus remix versions of classics that only the children & grandchildren of long time Michael fans would like. Right now, Madonna is launching Hard Candy, which is THE most hip-hop/hip-pop/"hood" album of her career (more so than Bedtime Stories for that matter). Despite the potential of Hard Candy to provoke division among Madonna's long-time gay fans, the album will give her black audience a "hood" record to jam to, which is something Michael & Prince haven't done in a while. At least the main single 4 minutes is above the 95 BPM mark, thank goodness! [Edited 4/21/08 13:20pm] Nobody in the hood is playing 4 minutes! That's not Gangsta, Tony! THAT'S VERY NOT GANGSTA! I said "hood", NOT "gangsta". | |
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jn2 said: Maybe for the same reasons for which Jimi Hendrix wasn't a hero for the Afro Americans.. ( not only Afro-Americans but non-musicians black folks in general I think..).
[Edited 4/21/08 12:25pm] I actually disagree with this statement. My parents had Jimi Hendrix albums and swore he was hendrix in the 70's. I think there are more black folks that were/are fans of rock than folks give credit. | |
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Rhondab said: jn2 said: Maybe for the same reasons for which Jimi Hendrix wasn't a hero for the Afro Americans.. ( not only Afro-Americans but non-musicians black folks in general I think..).
[Edited 4/21/08 12:25pm] I actually disagree with this statement. My parents had Jimi Hendrix albums and swore he was hendrix in the 70's. I think there are more black folks that were/are fans of rock than folks give credit. Do you think it's like a guilty pleasure kind of thing? 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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bboy87 said: Krayzie, not this bullshit again
this happend b4? You're just a sinner I am told
Be your fire when you're cold Make u happy when you're sad Make u good when u are bad I'm not a human I am a dove I'm U're conscience, I Am Love | |
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Because his music is better than Prince's, he could really sing, and not singer musician sing, but can really sing, AND THE ONE MAJOR THING, that everybody in this thread is trying to downplay for all of Michael Jackson wild behavior(looks) he NEVER CAME OUT OF HIS MOUTH and try to say he was some other race, as Prince did, so that right there is turn off for me to never really like Prince, like that he has iight music, but i never dig him like that | |
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They do? I never noticed. | |
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bboy87 said: TonyVanDam said: But it's the ugly truth. Prince's Planet Earth wasn't worth the food stamps. MJ's Thriller 25 is basically Michael living off of past glory, plus remix versions of classics that only the children & grandchildren of long time Michael fans would like. Right now, Madonna is launching Hard Candy, which is THE most hip-hop/hip-pop/"hood" album of her career (more so than Bedtime Stories for that matter). Despite the potential of Hard Candy to provoke division among Madonna's long-time gay fans, the album will give her black audience a "hood" record to jam to, which is something Michael & Prince haven't done in a while. At least the main single 4 minutes is above the 95 BPM mark, thank goodness! [Edited 4/21/08 13:20pm] Nobody in the hood is playing 4 minutes! That's not Gangsta, Tony! THAT'S VERY NOT GANGSTA! Dammit I almost spat at the computer when you said that but u ain't lying bboy87! No one in Harlem is bumping 4 Minutes. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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I honestly have no idea why they don't have love for Prince but I know why they still have love for Michael because he goes back to the MOTOWN days and they still feel connected to him that way. My dad still bumps to MJ on occasion playing "Thriller". [Edited 4/21/08 14:10pm] | |
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purplecam said: bboy87 said: Nobody in the hood is playing 4 minutes! That's not Gangsta, Tony! THAT'S VERY NOT GANGSTA! Dammit I almost spat at the computer when you said that but u ain't lying bboy87! No one in Harlem is bumping 4 Minutes. I've never heard: Aye cuz, you know what song is tight? la isla bonita! that song be gettin me all the hoes "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: purplecam said: Dammit I almost spat at the computer when you said that but u ain't lying bboy87! No one in Harlem is bumping 4 Minutes. I've never heard: Aye cuz, you know what song is tight? la isla bonita! that song be gettin me all the hoes Listening to anything Madonna will get you beat up in the hood. | |
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It's quite simple actually...black folk don't like the gee-tar.
Sly, Jimi, Lenny...none get much love from the R&B community. Although, there are exceptions... Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind. | |
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Revolution said: It's quite simple actually...black folk don't like the gee-tar.
Sly, Jimi, Lenny...none get much love from the R&B community. Although, there are exceptions... That's sums it up. | |
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TonyVanDam said: I said "hood", NOT "gangsta". touche. PS -- funny stuff, bboy87 Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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Revolution said: It's quite simple actually...black folk don't like the gee-tar.
Sly, Jimi, Lenny...none get much love from the R&B community. Although, there are exceptions... True. | |
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No, he is right, blacks tend to like MJ better. Probably because Prince is more eclectic, rock and roll sounding. Blacks tend to hate rock music, thinking it is white music. Just a lack of history class, like most of us. All you others say Hell Yea!! | |
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Maybe in this younger generation but when I was growing up in the early 1980s, when it came to black folks, at least in my area, it was always Prince vs. Rick James and it was never Prince vs. Michael Jackson until white people discovered who Prince was.
Since Michael blew up so big with "Thriller", then he started doing kiddie shit like narrating an "ET" album, going to the awards with Webster, started being known for hanging with kids, I've seen him become a public figure that kids (of all colors, not just black) grow up watching like Barney, Elmo, The Easter Bunny, and Santa Claus. Michael Jackson, with his kiddie ass, became something that parents could put their children in front of the TV and entertain them. No parent in their right mind would put their todlers in front of a TV with Prince prancing around singing about sex. See Prince is for the grown folks, Michael is for the brats. . . . [Edited 4/21/08 14:59pm] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Bishop31 said: I'm gonna have to second that answer also. I'm an artist & I hate to say it, any music that has too much Electric Guitar is deemed as "White Music". Whenever I play Jimi Hendrix, my Black friends would say "Why are U playing that white boy music?!".
The same is said when I'm listening to any Guitar Heavy Prince music. It's simple & I don't wanna stereo type all of us Black people...but the majority of Black Folks DO NOT DIG ROCK SOUNDING MUSIC or HEAVY GUITAR MUSIC. I went to a BB King concert a couple of years ago with my mom & I swear to U, we were 2 of the only 15 Black people in that 10,000 seating place. The rest were white people. Why??? I have no idea. I blame our Black Radio Stations & B.E.T....they simply don't give Black Artists who don't do "Hip Hop" or "R&B" a chance. For that reason. most blacks I know don't know much about Prince other than Purple Rain. Michael Jackson got played more than Prince because his music was deemed more "Black" than Prince. I hope this will change someday. That's it right there. I get weird looks from family & friends when I blast Soundgarden, AIC or Sevendust. "Why do you like that white-boy music?" is all I hear. | |
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krayzie said: Why do african americans prefer MJ over Prince ?
eh? | |
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uPtoWnNY said: Bishop31 said: I'm gonna have to second that answer also. I'm an artist & I hate to say it, any music that has too much Electric Guitar is deemed as "White Music". Whenever I play Jimi Hendrix, my Black friends would say "Why are U playing that white boy music?!".
The same is said when I'm listening to any Guitar Heavy Prince music. It's simple & I don't wanna stereo type all of us Black people...but the majority of Black Folks DO NOT DIG ROCK SOUNDING MUSIC or HEAVY GUITAR MUSIC. I went to a BB King concert a couple of years ago with my mom & I swear to U, we were 2 of the only 15 Black people in that 10,000 seating place. The rest were white people. Why??? I have no idea. I blame our Black Radio Stations & B.E.T....they simply don't give Black Artists who don't do "Hip Hop" or "R&B" a chance. For that reason. most blacks I know don't know much about Prince other than Purple Rain. Michael Jackson got played more than Prince because his music was deemed more "Black" than Prince. I hope this will change someday. That's it right there. I get weird looks from family & friends when I blast Soundgarden, AIC or Sevendust. "Why do you like that white-boy music?" is all I hear. I've converted every one I know over 2 the Musician of the 2. | |
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Michael has sold more records to fans of all colors than Prince has. My Legacy
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vainandy said: Maybe in this younger generation but when I was growing up in the early 1980s, when it came to black folks, at least in my area, it was always Prince vs. Rick James and it was never Prince vs. Michael Jackson until white people discovered who Prince was.
The matter of the thread ain't Prince vs. Michael Jackson , but 'Why do african americans prefer MJ over Prince ? vainandy said: Since Michael blew up so big with "Thriller", then he started doing kiddie shit like narrating an "ET" album, going to the awards with Webster, started being known for hanging with kids, I've seen him become a public figure that kids (of all colors, not just black) grow up watching like Barney, Elmo, The Easter Bunny, and Santa Claus. Michael Jackson, with his kiddie ass, became something that parents could put their children in front of the TV and entertain them. No parent in their right mind would put their todlers in front of a TV with Prince prancing around singing about sex. See Prince is for the grown folks, Michael is for the brats.
I disagree without on that, Prince had ton of teenage fans as well, the matter of fact Prince appealed to the same age group as MJ (around 15-25 year old). He was just appealing to different teenage people and was less mainstream... And Prince music was atrocioulsy childish.... Rick James was the only one appealing to grown folks, don't forget he was in his late 20's when he started his career with Motown [Edited 4/21/08 15:49pm] | |
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