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PrintableGollee, krayzie, vain . . . is this 1904? Y'all gonna go 49 rounds? I've gone tete-a-tete before but y'all have stamina!
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namepeace said: Gollee, krayzie, vain . . . is this 1904? Y'all gonna go 49 rounds? I've gone tete-a-tete before but y'all have stamina!
They got that Miracle Gro in their system, that requires them to fight for three minutes in 50 rounds!  | |
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carlluv said: krayzie said: Off the Wall can not be considered as a "crossover" success because the popularity of the album is based on the HUGE response from the black audience and black radio stations... Black folks responded greatly to the album... And not only OFW wasn't a crossover success, musically Off the wall was not even meant to be a crossover album, the album never gets a great response from the white audience... And this is specifically the reason why MJ decided to go POP with Thriller, an album that could appeal to all kind of audiences, not just black folks... O.K, then tell me how did Off the Wall became the the #3 album of 1980 if it didn't crossover,and this was back before any black artist could get any type of airplay on top40 radio. and just because off the wall was big in the black community. The album and it's two singles charted on the top ten pop charts, it got airplay on top 40 radio so it still crossover whether or not he did not intend for the album to crossover. Hell even James Brown had songs that crossover, and he was strictly r&b I don't like the term crossover because it leads people to believe that white folks made OFW a success which is not true... Off the wall wasn't a "crossover" success... It was a HUGE r&b success, not a "crossover success"...Off the Wall became the #3 album of 1980, but the album's popularity was mostly due to THE BLACK AUDIENCE... It failed to reached out the white audience... Like I said before, a lot of white folks don't even know Off The wall very well... White folks didn't seriously support this album ... | |
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vainandy said:  Now he's going to cling to the large number of R&B sales and awards and act as if that large amount of R&B success means that the pop success didn't even exist. Mommy and daddy must have not been home to give him some good answers for a comeback.
And poor Donna Summer, she must have been stranded on "Gilligan's Island" after her "Bad Girls" album in 1979 because she was never heard from again. And look how he's trying to avoid the facts... My friend, Do you know how are determined the american music awards ? Do you know who select the soul albums ? Do you know ?
Keep ignoring the facts... And remember what you said : "Off The Wall" was very successful but almost a year later, it was completely out of style on R&B radio. The Jacksons would have never released "Truimph" if it had been drug out for years." Yep right, that's why Off the Wall was once again the favorite soul album in 1981 and several months after Triumph being released... [Edited 4/25/08 13:52pm] | |
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This is what happens when you get high on syrup and weed and decide to run a party playing "Off the Wall":
Sorry, Mike. SCREW-A-LOT WRECORDS, FOOL!  | |
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[quote] krayzie said: vainandy said: Now he's going to cling to the large number of R&B sales and awards and act as if that large amount of R&B success means that the pop success didn't even exist. Mommy and daddy must have not been home to give him some good answers for a comeback.
And poor Donna Summer, she must have been stranded on "Gilligan's Island" after her "Bad Girls" album in 1979 because she was never heard from again. And look how he's trying to avoid the facts... My friend, Do you know how are determined the american music awards ? Do you know who select the soul albums ? Do you know ? Yes, I do know because you have told me in this thread over and over until you have made it into song lyrics. Sing it a few more times and I'm going to get Funkenstein in here to play his bass behind it and TheAudience and Blackguitaristz to play dualing guitars. Maybe we can make it into a hit and turn today's music back around.
Keep ignoring the facts...
And remember what you said : "Off The Wall" was very successful but almost a year later, it was completely out of style on R&B radio. The Jacksons would have never released "Truimph" if it had been drug out for years." Yep, I sure do remember saying that and I also remember responding back to you the first time you questioned it. Go back and read it. Yep right, that's why Off the Wall was once again the favorite soul album in 1981 and several months after Triumph being released...
And actually, this is the part that does puzzle me because I was around and "Off The Wall" was definately completely out of style long before 1981 arrived. Now that I think of it though. As long as I can remember until recently, The American Music Awards have always been broadcast in either late January or early February. If the album was a massive hit in the early part of the year 1980, and I know it was, that would definately qualify it to be the favorite soul album of that year and the awards show isn't broadcast until 1981 which is announcing the results of the previous year. That's the only reason I can think of for the album lingering on that long because I know it wasn't getting regular rotation that long on any of the radio stations, white or black. By mid to late 1980, everyone was jamming to "Lovely One" and "Off The Wall" was a thing of the past. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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krayzie said: carlluv said: O.K, then tell me how did Off the Wall became the the #3 album of 1980 if it didn't crossover,and this was back before any black artist could get any type of airplay on top40 radio. and just because off the wall was big in the black community. The album and it's two singles charted on the top ten pop charts, it got airplay on top 40 radio so it still crossover whether or not he did not intend for the album to crossover. Hell even James Brown had songs that crossover, and he was strictly r&b I don't like the term crossover because it leads people to believe that white folks made OFW a success which is not true... Off the wall wasn't a "crossover" success... It was a HUGE r&b success, not a "crossover success"...Off the Wall became the #3 album of 1980, but the album's popularity was mostly due to THE BLACK AUDIENCE... It failed to reached out the white audience... Like I said before, a lot of white folks don't even know Off The wall very well... White folks didn't seriously support this album ... Man, you mean to tell me a r&b album that was the #3 album of the year on the pop charts,and had 4 of it's singles enter the top 10 pop singles charts not considered a crossover sucess.then i don't know what can be considered a sucess. Maybe you're talking about off the wall not having the type of impact he had with thiller. maybe from that veiwpoint i can agree with it a little, but he had to have some type of sucess with it for it to be one of the top ten albums of the year and have of it's 4 singles chart in pop top ten. Too bad we don't know the exact amount he sold on the pop charts and on the r&b charts with off the wall why in God's name do u wanna make me cry | |
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vainandy said: And actually, this is the part that does puzzle me because I was around and "Off The Wall" was definately completely out of style long before 1981 arrived. Now that I think of it though. As long as I can remember until recently, The American Music Awards have always been broadcast in either late January or early February. If the album was a massive hit in the early part of the year 1980, and I know it was, that would definately qualify it to be the favorite soul album of that year and the awards show isn't broadcast until 1981 which is announcing the results of the previous year.
My friend, the album was released in mid 1979, and it ALREADY won the favorite soul album award in 1980... So why do black radio stations and buyers awarded Off The Wall once again for the year 1981, if like you said the album was well past and gone... Just because it was a big hit in the early part of 1980 ? So they re-awarded almost a year later Michael Jackson Favorite Soul/R&B Male Artist and Favorite Soul/R&B Album (Off The Wall) for an album that was well past and gone... You try too hard, my friend, you try too hard...
It's like if Purple Rain won the Favorite Soul/R&B award of year 1986 because it was still a hit in the early part of the year 1985... That makes no sense...
My friend you try WAY too hard... | |
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Screw and chop, bitch. | |
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krayzie said:
So why do black radio stations and buyers awarded Off The Wall once again for the year 1981, if like you said the album was well past and gone... 
Put this behind those lyrics. It will make them sound better. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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