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Reply #150 posted 07/31/07 8:09am

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Here comes that New Wave guy cool


Favorite funky New Wave song?

hmmm
I'll have to think about that

Have you ever listened to the band A Certain Ratio?

Nope smile

Speaking of which, why have you failed to acknowledge the funky bands that came out of the Post-Punk/New Wave era (Gang of 4, APB, The Pop Group, Maximum Joy, etc.)?

Cause I haven't listened to any of those bands lol

Do you like the band Level 42?

Haven't listened to them. I've heard good things about the band, especially their bassist. I'm going to check 'em out at some point

Are you into British Funk groups (Beggar & Co., Imagination, Light of the World, Hi Tension, Central Line, etc.)?

I haven't heard as many British funk groups as I'd like to have heard. I've been meaning to get into Light Of The World for some time now. Gotta get my hands on their debut. Oh and I love AWB cool

What was the last funky Prince song?

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Admit it, Cameo was the baddest funk band of their time, weren't they?

They are great, but not the greatest

I once said that Jamiroquai was one of the last great Funk bands (which started some controversy). Am I right?

'Great' funk died in the early eighties. Jamiroquai are an ok band. They were a whole lot funkier when they still had Stuart Zender (or whatever he was called lol) on bass cool

You do realize there are still some funky bands out there right now? (The Rapture, Los Amigos Invisibles, Bamboo Chutes, Meech Wilson, !!!, Harco Pront, Q & Not U, etc. )

Yes, I do realize that. Modern funk bands pretty much always have that contemporary sound that I dislike

Who is the funkiest rhythm guitarist ever?

hmmm
Tough one

Even though they're a Hip-Hop group, wouldn't you say that Outkast carries the funk torch?

Nah
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Reply #151 posted 07/31/07 8:15am

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Sir, you've got some studying to do. There's a whole world of Funk you're missing out on. Funk goes way beyond the Black Americans from the 70's and 80's. wink
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Reply #152 posted 07/31/07 8:29am

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Sir, you've got some studying to do. There's a whole world of Funk you're missing out on. Funk goes way beyond the Black Americans from the 70's and 80's. wink

I know, I know lol
That's the brand of funk I dig the most, though.
After the seventies and early eighties, 'funk' became watered-down synth-filled crap. Newer funk (as in contemporary funk) never captures the feel of the original thang. It always ends up sounding too clean & polished.
I do need to do some catching up when it comes to some of that British funk, though cool
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Reply #153 posted 07/31/07 8:33am

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A few more questions:

Wasn't Prince's Parade Tour one of his funkiest?

Isn't "The Payback" by my man JB one of the baddest jams ever?

Would you like some funk guitar lessons? guitar

What do you mean Outkast doesn't carry the funk torch?

Isn't "What Time Is It?" The Time's best album?

Isn't "Dance With Me" by Rick James a kick-ass tune?

Have you ever heard Red Hot Chili Peppers 2nd album produced by George Clinton called "Freaky Styley" (one of their best)?

Which bands have had a lame attempt at funk?

Isn't Cymande the most underrated Funk band?

War is a pretty funky band too, right?

Isn't it ironic that most Hip-Hopppers and young cats in general won't get into funk but they sample and use old school Funk records and incorporate them into their music?

Isn't "Robbery" by Teena Marie an underrated album?

Why do you dislike modern/contemporary funk?

Don't you know that true funk never dies?

And finally..

"Zombie" by Fela Kuti - the funkiest song of all time?
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Reply #154 posted 07/31/07 10:13am

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2 questions...what do you think of the band Weapon of Choice?

what do you think was the last funk track prince recorded?
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Reply #155 posted 07/31/07 6:37pm

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

MattyJam said:

FuNkeNsteiN - Do you play funk? Do you play bass or drums or guitar?


I play funk on mah bass cool
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A little bass exam for ya:

1.
a) What funk song has the most technically complex and/or hard to play bass part?
b) Apart from 'Everyday People', what funk song has the simplest bass part?

2. When it comes to bass players everyone thinks of Bootsy or Larry but who, in your opinion, are the unsung heroes of funk bass? Give sample songs if possible.

3. Give me three golden rules that will improve my funk bass playing. razz
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Reply #156 posted 07/31/07 6:57pm

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

NWF said:

Sir, you've got some studying to do. There's a whole world of Funk you're missing out on. Funk goes way beyond the Black Americans from the 70's and 80's. wink

I know, I know lol
That's the brand of funk I dig the most, though.
After the seventies and early eighties, 'funk' became watered-down synth-filled crap. Newer funk (as in contemporary funk) never captures the feel of the original thang. It always ends up sounding too clean & polished.
I do need to do some catching up when it comes to some of that British funk, though cool


hmmm What's someone with an aversion to synth-filled funk doing on a Prince site? wink

You should definitely check out Mark King of Level 42, even if just from a technical standpoint. Try 'Level 42' (debut album) and 'The Early Tapes'. Admittedly, their later stuff is MOR radio friendly cheese.
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Reply #157 posted 07/31/07 7:28pm

2Jay

Which one is Funk.

a) Billy Joel
b) Queen
c) Madonna
d) Prince
e) Rick James
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Reply #158 posted 08/01/07 1:41am

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A few more questions:

Wasn't Prince's Parade Tour one of his funkiest?

I've only seen some clips of the tour, so I can't really say for certain

Isn't "The Payback" by my man JB one of the baddest jams ever?

'The Payback' is one baadd jam ndeed cool

Would you like some funk guitar lessons? guitar

hmmm
I'd rather concentrate on gettin' better at playing bass


What do you mean Outkast doesn't carry the funk torch?

I don't think Outkast is a funky. Half of their stuff (Bigboi's) is lameass hip hop crap. Andre has some good cuts but waaaay too much filler on their albums (at least on Love Below/Speakerboxx). I also don't think I've ever heard a funky cut from Outkast

Isn't "What Time Is It?" The Time's best album?

Yes.

Isn't "Dance With Me" by Rick James a kick-ass tune?

It's ok, but not as good as You & I, Bustin Out', Ghetto Life, Give It To Me Baby, Hard To Get, Standing On The Top, Mary Jane, Fool On The Street etc etc.

Have you ever heard Red Hot Chili Peppers 2nd album produced by George Clinton called "Freaky Styley" (one of their best)?

Nope. I dislike RHCP

Which bands have had a lame attempt at funk?

hmmm

Isn't Cymande the most underrated Funk band?

Dunno if they are the most underrated, but they definitely are underrated. I only own one of their albums but I plan on gettin' some mo' of their music in the near future.

War is a pretty funky band too, right?

Yes ndeed cool

Isn't it ironic that most Hip-Hopppers and young cats in general won't get into funk but they sample and use old school Funk records and incorporate them into their music?

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Isn't "Robbery" by Teena Marie an underrated album?

Haven't heard it. It's one of her later eighties albums, right?

Why do you dislike modern/contemporary funk?

It never comes out sounding right. The production is usually too clean & polished and the ideas are usually not as interesting

Don't you know that true funk never dies?

Funk'n on 4eva! woot! woot!

And finally..

"Zombie" by Fela Kuti - the funkiest song of all time?

Nope, but it is a great cut. I think Fela Kuti is very underrated

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Reply #159 posted 08/01/07 1:43am

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3121Addict said:

2 questions...what do you think of the band Weapon of Choice?

what do you think was the last funk track prince recorded?


I don't think I've ever heard anything by that band, so dunno

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Reply #160 posted 08/01/07 2:01am

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stim said:

FuNkeNsteiN said:



A little bass exam for ya:

1.
a) What funk song has the most technically complex and/or hard to play bass part?
b) Apart from 'Everyday People', what funk song has the simplest bass part?

2. When it comes to bass players everyone thinks of Bootsy or Larry but who, in your opinion, are the unsung heroes of funk bass? Give sample songs if possible.

3. Give me three golden rules that will improve my funk bass playing. razz


Mark Adams usually has pretty complex basslines. I'll try to come up with individual songs later on.

AWB's 'Pick Up The Pieces' is very simple, so is 'Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin). GCS's 'Entrow' is pretty simple too.

Mark Adams (The whole 'Stone Jam' album is just incredible)
Louis Johnson (Listen to Mista' Cool cool)
Oscar Alston (Rick James's bass player. Listen to stuff like Bustin' Out & Fool On The Street)
George Porter Jr. (Cissy Strut, People Say, Jungle Man etc etc.)
James Jamerson (One of the greatest bass players ever. Period. Put a Motown record on and enjoy. If you want a specific song, check out The Jackson 5's Darlin' Dear)

I could continue this list all day lol

Oh my, I ain't no teacher lol
Funk is all about rhythm, and as a bass player, you gotta keep that shit groovin' 'n' in the pocket. Work on your timing, learn how to slap, learn some of the scales most commonly used in funk.
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Reply #161 posted 08/01/07 2:03am

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stim said:

FuNkeNsteiN said:


I know, I know lol
That's the brand of funk I dig the most, though.
After the seventies and early eighties, 'funk' became watered-down synth-filled crap. Newer funk (as in contemporary funk) never captures the feel of the original thang. It always ends up sounding too clean & polished.
I do need to do some catching up when it comes to some of that British funk, though cool


hmmm What's someone with an aversion to synth-filled funk doing on a Prince site? wink

You should definitely check out Mark King of Level 42, even if just from a technical standpoint. Try 'Level 42' (debut album) and 'The Early Tapes'. Admittedly, their later stuff is MOR radio friendly cheese.


Well, I used to be more into synth-funk but as I got a bit older and started diggin' deeper I found that I prefer 70's horn & bass driven funk muuuuuch more than 80's synth-funk. This doesn't mean that I dislike all synth-funk, however. I still love Prince though, he has a special place in my heart wink

Yea, Imma have to check them out at some point, thanks for the info cool
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Reply #162 posted 08/01/07 2:04am

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2Jay said:

Which one is Funk.

a) Billy Joel
b) Queen
c) Madonna
d) Prince
e) Rick James


Rick James, and Prince to some extent.
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Reply #163 posted 08/01/07 4:37am

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Kool & the Gang, Before JT or after JT, (tell the truth)?


Who had the baddest horn section ever?


Do you like the Temptaions funky material better then their classic Motown material. Basically Ruffin Tempts or Dennis.?


I like the pre-JT material and some of the early JT material.

hmmm
There are a whole bunch of cool and badd horn sections, here's a couple that I dig

Ohio Players horn section
The Horny Horns
Punk Funk Horns
Tower Of Power Horns


I haven't listened to the Temptations enough to give you a proper answer smile


Alright, I now have an answer to your Temptations question. I've been listening to Psychedelic Shack, Masterpiece and A Song For You a lot lately, so Imma have to answer...
I dig their funkier material better cool
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Reply #164 posted 08/01/07 6:55am

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Why do you dislike the Chili Peppers? (blasphemy! mad)

Are you apart of this long line of orgers who bitch and compalin about how there's no Funk around today (even though there is)?

Did the Beatles have some funky stuff?

What about Hendrix?

Weren't the Talking Heads one of the funkiest New Wave bands?

What about ABC?

Are you into the other styles of music Prince plays?

Doesn't Emo suck?
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Reply #165 posted 08/01/07 7:08am

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Is there a funk scene in Finland?

Do you play anything? Or DJ?

If you DJ, why not move to London and start a club night? Funk is due a revival over here (last time it was big was during the Acid Jazz days in the early 90's)
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Reply #166 posted 08/01/07 7:15am

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NWF said:

Why do you dislike the Chili Peppers? (blasphemy! mad)

Are you apart of this long line of orgers who bitch and compalin about how there's no Funk around today (even though there is)?

Did the Beatles have some funky stuff?

What about Hendrix?

Weren't the Talking Heads one of the funkiest New Wave bands?

What about ABC?

Are you into the other styles of music Prince plays?

Doesn't Emo suck?


Anthony Kiedis is a weak vocalist, they have this annoying punk attitude and their stuff is boring

Like I said before, I dislike contemporary funk. It just doesn't 'feel' right, if you know what I mean. I do know that there are some acts still doing (or trying to do) funk nowadays, but I just ain't that interested in it

I guess The Beatles had some funky-ish stuff. Haven't listened to them a whole lot so I don't know exactly how much they incorporated funk into their stuff

Hendrix had some funky-ish stuff but I don't really consider him a funk artist

I haven't listened to Talking Heads or ABC so dunno biggrin

I like most of P's eighties stuff, and there's a whole lot of un-funky stuff in there too wink

That whole 'emo' stuff is just goddamn ridiculous
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Reply #167 posted 08/01/07 7:16am

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LittleSmedley said:

Is there a funk scene in Finland?

Do you play anything? Or DJ?

If you DJ, why not move to London and start a club night? Funk is due a revival over here (last time it was big was during the Acid Jazz days in the early 90's)


There are a few cats around that dig older stuff but funk is not very big here Finland.

I play bass.
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Reply #168 posted 08/01/07 7:25am

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FuNkeNsteiN said:



I haven't listened to Talking Heads or ABC so dunno biggrin


You have no idea what you're missing. smile
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Reply #169 posted 08/01/07 7:30am

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NWF said:

FuNkeNsteiN said:



I haven't listened to Talking Heads or ABC so dunno biggrin


You have no idea what you're missing. smile

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Reply #170 posted 08/01/07 7:36am

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NWF said:

FuNkeNsteiN said:



I haven't listened to Talking Heads or ABC so dunno biggrin


You have no idea what you're missing. smile


I don't think FuNk would like them, mate. Talking Heads - scratchy white boy funk, ABC - polished plastic synth pop with very 80's slap bass. As are Level 42.

I like them myself though, especially ABC, and in fact anything Trevor Horn was involved with.

Do you like much Disco, F?
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Reply #171 posted 08/01/07 7:40am

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Parliament or Funkadelic? smile


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Reply #172 posted 08/01/07 8:12am

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NWF said:



You have no idea what you're missing. smile


I don't think FuNk would like them, mate. Talking Heads - scratchy white boy funk, ABC - polished plastic synth pop with very 80's slap bass. As are Level 42.

I like them myself though, especially ABC, and in fact anything Trevor Horn was involved with.

Do you like much Disco, F?


Well, that's for Funk to decide. It aggrevates me when other people give silly labels and descriptions about bands. That just spoils it for the listener. You just gotta listen and feel the music with an open mind. Nevertheless they were all really good bands from the New Wave era. And as the ambassador of that genre here in orgland, I would recommend them highly. smile
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Reply #173 posted 08/01/07 8:22am

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NWF said:

LittleSmedley said:



I don't think FuNk would like them, mate. Talking Heads - scratchy white boy funk, ABC - polished plastic synth pop with very 80's slap bass. As are Level 42.

I like them myself though, especially ABC, and in fact anything Trevor Horn was involved with.

Do you like much Disco, F?


Well, that's for Funk to decide. It aggrevates me when other people give silly labels and descriptions about bands. That just spoils it for the listener. You just gotta listen and feel the music with an open mind. Nevertheless they were all really good bands from the New Wave era. And as the ambassador of that genre here in orgland, I would recommend them highly. smile
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I said I don't think he'll like them. And they're not silly labels, more helpful pointers. Life's too short too listen to everything, and reading this thread, I don't think they're his bag. Of course it's up to him to decide, wavey-baby smile
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Reply #174 posted 08/01/07 8:27am

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LittleSmedley said:

NWF said:



Well, that's for Funk to decide. It aggrevates me when other people give silly labels and descriptions about bands. That just spoils it for the listener. You just gotta listen and feel the music with an open mind. Nevertheless they were all really good bands from the New Wave era. And as the ambassador of that genre here in orgland, I would recommend them highly. smile
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I said I don't think he'll like them. And they're not silly labels, more helpful pointers. Life's too short too listen to everything, and reading this thread, I don't think they're his bag. Of course it's up to him to decide, wavey-baby smile


Yeah, but when you say stuff like "white boy funk" and "plastic synth-pop" and stuff, that (IMO) is demeaning the artist. The way I see it, at the end of the day, it's all just good music. And that's how I view music: good and bad. Well, mmost music anyways. wink
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Reply #175 posted 08/01/07 8:33am

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i know u're more of an old school funk guy, but elsewhere someone posted that Voodoo by D'Angelo is real funky. i've heard it described as dark and inaccessible but never "really funky". any thoughts?
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Reply #176 posted 08/01/07 8:33am

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Yeah, but when you say stuff like "white boy funk" and "plastic synth-pop" and stuff, that (IMO) is demeaning the artist. The way I see it, at the end of the day, it's all just good music. And that's how I view music: good and bad. Well, mmost music anyways. wink


"Rip it up and start again" would have been a dull read if it had just been "Public Image Ltd formed after the Sex Pistols, and did Good Music for ten years. Joy Division released "Love Will Tear Us Apart" which was Good, especially Hooky's Good bass playing" wink

Anyway, BACK TO THE FUNK!
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Reply #177 posted 08/01/07 11:19am

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LittleSmedley said:

NWF said:



You have no idea what you're missing. smile


I don't think FuNk would like them, mate. Talking Heads - scratchy white boy funk, ABC - polished plastic synth pop with very 80's slap bass. As are Level 42.

I like them myself though, especially ABC, and in fact anything Trevor Horn was involved with.

Do you like much Disco, F?

Well, I like occasional disco track but I'm not that keen on the genre.
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Reply #178 posted 08/01/07 11:22am

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i know u're more of an old school funk guy, but elsewhere someone posted that Voodoo by D'Angelo is real funky. i've heard it described as dark and inaccessible but never "really funky". any thoughts?

I'm not that keen on 'Voodoo'. I liked a couple of the tracks but I don't really see what the fuss is about. I don't think the album is funky.
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Reply #179 posted 08/01/07 11:23am

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Dancelot said:

Parliament or Funkadelic? smile


and what do you think of Clinton's solo albums?


Parliament, by far.
I'm not that keen on GC's solo work. I like some of his solo stuff, but I don't really love any of it.
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