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Reply #240 posted 04/09/21 4:24am

lustmealways

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can't wait for people's reactions when they realize the reason there's a million covers in the live set is that they're all about 5 seconds long and prince isn't even really singing most of the time.

i understand why they threw in the live gig, but this truly is a nadir of his live career in terms of recorded listening experiences, in my opinion. at the time, for those at the gig, i'm sure it was great... but it doesn't make for a fantastic experience afterward.

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Reply #241 posted 04/09/21 4:37am

embmmusic

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purplethunder3121 said:

peedub said:

i look forward to seeing the design of the etching on the blank side d of the record.

You won't see it on the clear vinyl. lol

You can literally see it on the clear vinyl picture from Target

Check out The Collector's Guide to Prince on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/p...4ldzxwlEuy
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Reply #242 posted 04/09/21 4:37am

RighteousOne

lustmealways said:

can't wait for people's reactions when they realize the reason there's a million covers in the live set is that they're all about 5 seconds long and prince isn't even really singing most of the time.

i understand why they threw in the live gig, but this truly is a nadir of his live career in terms of recorded listening experiences, in my opinion. at the time, for those at the gig, i'm sure it was great... but it doesn't make for a fantastic experience afterward.


Yeah, that was my problem with the Welcome 2 America tour. Like you say, makes sense that it’s on there but hardly worth documenting really. People will get to hear from a group of back-up singers, with a few Prince songs sprinkled in.
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Reply #243 posted 04/09/21 4:42am

embmmusic

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RODSERLING said:

Milty2 said:

I wasn't expecting the 1999 SDE to be sold out for this long (still don't have it) and so I just went ahead and ordered this one outright. I'll get the individual cd one day when I'm near a record store (if that ever happens again lol).

1999 SDE was never out of print in France, I still see it regularly in my town.

'Out of print' doesn't mean the same thing as 'not in stock'

[Edited 4/8/21 21:44pm]

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Reply #244 posted 04/09/21 5:04am

lustmealways

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what will the masses think of such deep cuts as hot summer? what if they're not ready? what will pitchfork think? will they be able to handle that much perfection coming at them that fast?

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Reply #245 posted 04/09/21 5:48am

fernandomachad
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lustmealways said:

i understand why they threw in the live gig, but this truly is a nadir of his live career in terms of recorded listening experiences, in my opinion. at the time, for those at the gig, i'm sure it was great... but it doesn't make for a fantastic experience afterward.

english is my second language so i had to look it up:

the lowest point in the fortunes of a person or organization.

ouch! hahahaha

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Reply #246 posted 04/09/21 6:43am

mb71

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I guess 15 nite stand didn't have the same ring to it.

Formerly TheDigitalGardener etc.
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Reply #247 posted 04/09/21 7:22am

simon1969

I keep refreshing Amazon.co.uk willing the pre-order to appear !

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Reply #248 posted 04/09/21 7:26am

SantanaMaitrey
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lustmealways said:



RODSERLING said:


We all know the reason... He didn't find any label to distribute that album. Hence the four years gap.

didn't think of that, but MAKES SENSE, and i feel like a dumbass. thanks RODSERLING.


Or rather, a label that was willing to pay him the advance that he wanted.
If you take any of this seriously, you're a bigger fool than I am.
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Reply #249 posted 04/09/21 7:31am

Vannormal

embmmusic said:

purplethunder3121 said:

You won't see it on the clear vinyl. lol

You can literally see it on the clear vinyl picture from Target

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it only has the album title etched in it, mutiple times.

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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts." (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #250 posted 04/09/21 7:35am

AaronA

I need the CD and Bluray. Why would you not package both. I ain't buying records as well.

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Reply #251 posted 04/09/21 7:36am

Vannormal

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What???!!!

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213 EURO here in Belgium....

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139 EURO in France

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40,99 EURO just for the vinyl album

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16,99 EURO for the CD version only.

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By the way, what is all the unneeded extra's ?

I mean... backstagepass ? really ?

a magnet or something ? (the square thing at the left)

OK, a 32 page booklet, fine, probably loads of pictures...

A postcard i believe ? why ?,

and what's the octagonal thing ?,

a concert ticket ??! why ?,

a VIP pass ? for what ?

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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts." (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #252 posted 04/09/21 7:50am

Vannormal

AaronA said:

I need the CD and Bluray. Why would you not package both. I ain't buying records as well.

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Smart (or stupid) marketing, so you have to spend moooooooooooney if you like what you need.

Smaztt or not, all wil turn out in the end if this album is well received or not, financially.

I have my doubts.

And I hope I'm wrong in my doubts.

What the fuck is it with these assembled packages ?

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[Edited 4/9/21 1:22am]

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts." (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #253 posted 04/09/21 8:06am

antonb

simon1969 said:

I keep refreshing Amazon.co.uk willing the pre-order to appear !

same here , not showing at hmv either
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Reply #254 posted 04/09/21 8:11am

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AaronA said:

I need the CD and Bluray. Why would you not package both. I ain't buying records as well.


Reason why, I always preferred Japanese releases as it has most of the times value added.
It should meet your expectations. πŸ˜„

https://www.cdjapan.co.jp...SICP-31432
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"Money won't buy U happiness but it'll pay 4 the search."
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Reply #255 posted 04/09/21 8:27am

Vannormal

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AaronA said:

I need the CD and Bluray. Why would you not package both. I ain't buying records as well.

Reason why, I always preferred Japanese releases as it has most of the times value added. It should meet your expectations. πŸ˜„ https://www.cdjapan.co.jp...SICP-31432 [Edited 4/9/21 1:12am]

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Right.

SDE is Japan is 139$.

In France 139 EURO, meaning more expensive in value.

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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts." (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #256 posted 04/09/21 9:09am

Bluedell

Ramzoo said:

AaronA said:

I need the CD and Bluray. Why would you not package both. I ain't buying records as well.

Reason why, I always preferred Japanese releases as it has most of the times value added. It should meet your expectations. πŸ˜„ https://www.cdjapan.co.jp...SICP-31432 [Edited 4/9/21 1:12am]

Thanks! Just ordered from there.

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Reply #257 posted 04/09/21 9:32am

OperatingTheta
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lustmealways said:

can't wait for people's reactions when they realize the reason there's a million covers in the live set is that they're all about 5 seconds long and prince isn't even really singing most of the time.

i understand why they threw in the live gig, but this truly is a nadir of his live career in terms of recorded listening experiences, in my opinion. at the time, for those at the gig, i'm sure it was great... but it doesn't make for a fantastic experience afterward.



It's an odd concert to select in terms of the setlist. I was half-expecting Madison Square Garden from 2011, which was a huge gig and makes much more sense in terms of song selection.

It will be nice to have this show, but others on the tour were much lighter on covers.
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Reply #258 posted 04/09/21 9:40am

antonb

still carnt order it from the uk, what the hell, one of princes biggest markets! Only available for download so far from amazon!

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Reply #259 posted 04/09/21 9:44am

Marco81

My guess regarding the choice of the show is that Shelby J had a saying in this (apparently she is going to be on the CBS special with Morris) and this show seems to feature her quite a lot. Just guessing though.

It's bizarre they left out the DMSR/Pop Life/Musicology, Cream/Cool/Let's Work/U Got The Look and Inf I Was Your Girlfriend/Insatiable/Nothing Compares 2 u/Adore medleys, along with other more interesting choices (Laydown, Dreamer/Welcome 2 America, for example).

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Reply #260 posted 04/09/21 9:52am

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antonb said:

still carnt order it from the uk, what the hell, one of princes biggest markets! Only available for download so far from amazon!

I gave up on the UK site this morning so ordered from Amazon USA. $124 including shipping and VAT

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Reply #261 posted 04/09/21 9:53am

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Japan only limited <CD+Blu-ray> edition on CDJapan.


https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/SICP-31432



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Reply #262 posted 04/09/21 9:53am

andrewm7

^ it would be nice if they added "bonus tracks" to the Blu ray from other shows in the LA residency, sort of a best of the rest of + guest appearances as an addittion to the full show smile

...but I`m just greedy razz

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Reply #263 posted 04/09/21 9:58am

pandemoniun6

Ramzoo said:

AaronA said:

I need the CD and Bluray. Why would you not package both. I ain't buying records as well.


Reason why, I always preferred Japanese releases as it has most of the times value added.
It should meet your expectations. πŸ˜„

https://www.cdjapan.co.jp...SICP-31432
[Edited 4/9/21 1:12am]


Thanks for this link. I normally order direct from the estate but I don’t really listen to my vinyl anymore so cd/blu ray package is all I need. Nice deluxe package for the collectors.
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Reply #264 posted 04/09/21 10:11am

Vannormal

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still carnt order it from the uk, what the hell, one of princes biggest markets! Only available for download so far from amazon!

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Haha, brexit shit.

There ya go.

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Reply #265 posted 04/09/21 10:18am

antonb

ya could be

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Reply #266 posted 04/09/21 10:24am

Vannormal

antonb said:

ya could be

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In February I ordered the Electronic Sound magazine with the gorgeous vinyl included with every issue.

Never had to pay extra border costs.

They send me an email asking if was ready to pay nearly the double the get it, or cancel it.

Good service to tell me that, so i refused it.

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Same happenend with a piece of gear i needed.

The wonderful brexit advantages to all.

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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts." (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #267 posted 04/09/21 10:48am

herb4

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Just dawned on me that this will be the first prince concert release since 2002. I think I will go ahead and preorder


What about the ones in the SDE releases?

ALso, I'm jazzed for some new stuff but, not gonna lie, the track list for the live set doesn't really do it for me. Heard all those songs a million times.

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Reply #268 posted 04/09/21 11:24am

goosepumble

These are some of the cringiest pseudo-political lyrics I've ever heard. It sounds like something a 14 year old would write. eek

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Reply #269 posted 04/09/21 12:37pm

camilleisfunky

I paid 180CAD for the SOTT SDE. I'm ok with paying that much for something like SOTT. Paying 130CAD for the W2A SDE is not worth it for me, especially considering that there will likely be another SDE in D&P this year which will likely cost close to 200CAD.

To me, buying vinyl is only worth it if the album was originally pressed on vinyl. I therefore own all of Prince's albums from the 70s and 80s on vinyl, except for the Black Album. Prince wouldn't have even considered releasing W2A on vinyl in my opinion.

I want that concert though, but nothing else on the SdE edition is value added for me. Just a 'pretty face' to paraphrase the W2A song.

So yeah, looks like the Estate is trying to take advantage of us with this release. That 1999 SDE really hit a sweet spot, 2 CDs of new music, one DVD concert on top of the remastered album. All for 80CAD.
I'm only getting the W2A album at 17CAD.
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