Strive said:

Vannormal said:

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No it certainly is not problematic at all.

It is a doubtful story tbh, no matter if he sings ''it's true''.

Read The Beautiful Ones.

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Well I did.

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Rimshottbob said:

@ Bart: For one who's usually such a Nazi about stating facts on this site, and for differentiating between facts and opinions, it's surprising to see you post something so totally off.

'None of those were as bad as CB' .... what does that even mean? The other albums were brickwalled but Crystal Ball was more brickwalled? Even if that is the case, which I doubt, that has nothing to do with how the new reissue will sound, when it is mastered specifically for vinyl.

Also, see how you're immediately dealing in opinions there? 'None of those were as bad' provides nothing concrete to base the statement on, only imparts your opinion on the previous releases.

And then we get to your take on Movie Star.... so the CREATOR of the track thought it should have the intro to Jam Of The Year at the start of it (a creator who was well-known for holding tracks back for years before releasing them, thus it could be argued that, to Prince, Movie Star 'belonged' on Crystal Ball '98, which is when it was released, and therefore was chronologically part of his canon, succeeding 1996's Jam Of The Year... so why shouldn't Jam feature on Movie Star?)

So, again, the CREATOR of the track thought it should be on there, but you don't, and that's not an opinion? Haha, hilarious.

You just don't like the fact that Movie Star features the intro to Jam Of The Year. Fair enough, but oh, guess what? 'Don't like' is pretty much the definition of an opinion.

Lastly, what does CB being available through NPGMC or on CD have to do with it? Those releases would not have received mastering specific for vinyl.

Vinyl as a format is quieter than every other - it has to be, PHYSICALLY, or else the needle will just jump off the record mid-distortion. So there's no reason to brickwall the release when they master it for vinyl. Vinyl mastering has nothing to do with the digital mastering for CD or NPGMC.

Bart, honestly, to me, on this site, you're 50% a useful source of information, and 50% a curmudgeonly, stick-in-the-mud pain in the ass.... but whichever guise you show up in, you're usually smarter than this.

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dodger said:

Rimshottbob said:

Looking forward to hear what casey drain and his award winning cousin have to say about how any future deluxe edition sounds.

#gutted

Hoping a nice version of Empty Room falls in this period

i hope they keep finding welcome 2 america's and parade deluxe is postponed for another 10 years

Why so many hateful posts lustmealways?

jaawwnn said:

Why so many hateful posts lustmealways?

in my rush to dismiss the stuck in the 80s haters, it appears that i too have become a hater

i will take time away and think about what i've done.

lustmealways said:

dm3857 said:

LoveGalore said:

Considering the absolute beastly amount of recorded and filmed content, it does boggle the mind why they aren't bolder with the releases - love them as I do.

welcome 2 america is going to be such a monumentally great album i'm already tearing up, lovegalore.

RODSERLING said:

Still no official announcement, how can you believe CB will be released in April?

thursday

lustmealways said:

jaawwnn said:

Why so many hateful posts lustmealways?

in my rush to dismiss the stuck in the 80s haters, it appears that i too have become a hater

i will take time away and think about what i've done.

s'all good

OperatingThetan said:

If he was honest about who he really was and what personal issues he's had with Prince in the past

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You have made up bullshit in your head and are upset about that bullshit. I suggest you seek professional help for that.

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Crystal ball was a decent

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It wasn't. It was unbalanced in its selection and pointless in its execution (seguing together tracks from wildly different eras) and contained incomplete and incorrect liner notes. It was an overpriced mess that had all the faults of early bootlegs at a time when bootleggers had evolved into more carefully curated collections. And it used the title of a classic "lost" album instead of coming up with an original title.

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It was a failure in so many aspects, and basically the first example of how Prince would again and again fail to deliver over the years to come.

lustmealways said:

LoveGalore said:

Considering the absolute beastly amount of recorded and filmed content, it does boggle the mind why they aren't bolder with the releases - love them as I do.

welcome 2 america is going to be such a monumentally great album i'm already tearing up, lovegalore.

hunny u aint wrong, some of the rumored songs on that album are among his best.

BartVanHemelen said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Crystal ball was a decent

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It wasn't. It was unbalanced in its selection and pointless in its execution (seguing together tracks from wildly different eras) and contained incomplete and incorrect liner notes. It was an overpriced mess that had all the faults of early bootlegs at a time when bootleggers had evolved into more carefully curated collections. And it used the title of a classic "lost" album instead of coming up with an original title.

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It was a failure in so many aspects, and basically the first example of how Prince would again and again fail to deliver over the years to come.

"Fail to deliver"? As if an artist's output is a service they're providing you? Seek professional help for your unhealthy relationship (ie. bullshit made up in your head) with strangers.

BartVanHemelen said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Crystal ball was a decent

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It wasn't. It was unbalanced in its selection and pointless in its execution (seguing together tracks from wildly different eras) and contained incomplete and incorrect liner notes. It was an overpriced mess that had all the faults of early bootlegs at a time when bootleggers had evolved into more carefully curated collections. And it used the title of a classic "lost" album instead of coming up with an original title.

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It was a failure in so many aspects, and basically the first example of how Prince would again and again fail to deliver over the years to come.

Well now you're just talking bollocks.

Here's hoping that they don't split CB into six LPs. It barely made sense for Emancipation and CB is thirty minutes shorter at 150 minutes total. They could use four LPs and have just one side go barely over the 20-minute mark if they balance everything just right. By contrast, both sides of Purple Rain are over 21 minutes long each. I don't mind spending the money (well actually, I DO mind), but I really hate the idea of having to flip over a record every twelve minutes or so. Here's how they can easily fit it all on four LPs:

Side 1 - Crystal Ball / Dream Factory / Acknowledge Me - 19:02

Side 2 - Ripopgodazippa / Love Sign [Shock G's Silky Remix] / Hide The Bone / Hide The Bone - 17:47

Side 3 - So Dark / Moviestar / Tell Me How U Want 2 B Done / Interactive / Da Bang - 19:16

Side 4 - Calhoun Square / What´s My Name / Crucial / An Honest Man / Sexual Suicide - 17:48

Side 5 - Cloreen Bacon Skin / Good Love - 20:32

Side 6 - Strays Of The World / Days Of Wild [live] / Last Heart - 17:27

Side 7 - Poom Poom / She Gave Her Angels / 18 & Over / The Ride - 19:17

Side 8 - Get Loose / P. Control [remix] / Make Your Mama Happy / Goodbye - 18:04

Easy peasy, lemon squeezy

BartVanHemelen said:

OperatingThetan said:

OperatingThetan said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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You have made up bullshit in your head and are upset about that bullshit. I suggest you seek professional help for that.

You've spent over twenty years posting nothing but judgement and bitterness toward an artist on a fan forum dedicated to that artist - I suggest you follow your own advice and seek some professional help for that. Having observed you here since 1998 and the consistency of your negative critique and attitude, that wasn't even remotely mellowed by the unexpected death of Prince himself, it is not unreasonable to conjecture that the reasons and motivation for your fixation might be personal. What else accounts for someone so regularly contributing to the fan forum of an artist they so clearly detest?

Very well articulated.

BartVanHemelen said: