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Reply #90 posted 09/03/20 1:21pm

SoulAlive

listening to the podcast here at work biggrin wow!!

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Reply #91 posted 09/03/20 1:25pm

TheSilentMikey

To all the people that are saying it’s not him on “Eggplant”, (this is really stupid...) it’s him.
[Edited 9/3/20 13:26pm]
"Don't need no Reefer. Don't need Cocaine. Purple Music does the same to my brain."
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Reply #92 posted 09/03/20 1:29pm

wonderboy

Defender was his favorite game back in 1986. Mine too!

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Reply #93 posted 09/03/20 1:53pm

ForceofNature

RighteousOne said:

RJOrion said:

yeah, it ruins the whole funk vibe for me...horns seem too loud too

Dude, nothing was ruined. You’re hearing a horn outtake buried in a special edition 30 years after the fact. Let it go. It’s poisonous.

I think the isn't saying the song as a whole is ruined lol just that the horns don't fit the vibe of the studio version as much to them as the OG sans-horns version. Nothing "poisonous" about perferring a specific version

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Reply #94 posted 09/03/20 3:11pm

dodger

TrivialPursuit said:



dodger said:


Dorothy Parker with horns sounds fucking weird




I don't know man. It kinda fits. It's got that lazy cafe feeling, lyrically & production-wise. Those lazy sorta horns sliding around make sense. I'm super anxious to hear the whole thing now.



Yes, I'm keen to hear it all but it just sounds so weird after all these years.
Interesting Eric even thought it didn't need the horns
[Edited 9/3/20 15:12pm]
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Reply #95 posted 09/03/20 3:40pm

TrivialPursuit

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dodger said:

TrivialPursuit said:


I don't know man. It kinda fits. It's got that lazy cafe feeling, lyrically & production-wise. Those lazy sorta horns sliding around make sense. I'm super anxious to hear the whole thing now.

Yes, I'm keen to hear it all but it just sounds so weird after all these years. Interesting Eric even thought it didn't need the horns


Kinda thought about this a bit. I think maybe that if the high end weren't cut out because of the half-working sound console, and it was a full sounding song like any other, that the horns would have possibly worked. But the muted take may not fully support the use of them.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #96 posted 09/03/20 3:53pm

LoveGalore

TrivialPursuit said:



dodger said:


TrivialPursuit said:



I don't know man. It kinda fits. It's got that lazy cafe feeling, lyrically & production-wise. Those lazy sorta horns sliding around make sense. I'm super anxious to hear the whole thing now.



Yes, I'm keen to hear it all but it just sounds so weird after all these years. Interesting Eric even thought it didn't need the horns


Kinda thought about this a bit. I think maybe that if the high end weren't cut out because of the half-working sound console, and it was a full sounding song like any other, that the horns would have possibly worked. But the muted take may not fully support the use of them.



No I agree with you - the horns sound lovely to me. And yeah I dig that they're hovering a bit over the rest of the arrangement. It sounds way better than, say, the added horns on Witness. These horns are actually doing something interesting and melodic! It's a really wonderfully dissonant thing.
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Reply #97 posted 09/03/20 3:54pm

TheTruth123

Why did it end with "Adore"? Does that imply Adore was written about Suzannah, too? The lyrics seem so clear it was the story of how he met Vanity.

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Reply #98 posted 09/03/20 4:11pm

lustmealways

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TheTruth123 said:

Why did it end with "Adore"? Does that imply Adore was written about Suzannah, too? The lyrics seem so clear it was the story of how he met Vanity.

lmao

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Reply #99 posted 09/03/20 4:18pm

rap

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https://art19.com/shows/prince-the-story-of-1999/episodes/ed4fec6b-ad9c-4e42-b17a-837e61070e8d

This episode contains snippets of Dorothy Parker with Horns, the original Big Tall Wall, Eggplant and Blanch. The episode mainly consists of an interview with Susannah Melvoin, but also includes clips from Susan Rogers, Eric Leeds and Atlanta Bliss.

[Edited 9/3/20 2:08am]

[Edited 9/3/20 2:17am]

The film quality seems very poor.

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Reply #100 posted 09/03/20 4:20pm

lustmealways

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that kick on big tall wall 1 is delicious, but the panning on the blanche drums is annoying

such is life

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Reply #101 posted 09/03/20 4:49pm

TrivialPursuit

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TheTruth123 said:

Why did it end with "Adore"? Does that imply Adore was written about Suzannah, too? The lyrics seem so clear it was the story of how he met Vanity.


It implies that the podcast is over.

And LOL at the Vanity part. Okay then.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #102 posted 09/03/20 4:55pm

Milty2

Omg I just listened to this chapter. People are going to hate on Wendy machinegun

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Reply #103 posted 09/03/20 5:01pm

laytonian

VaultCurator said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

cant wait to hear it.

i love the woman hosting it. shes really good.


Andrea Swensson is really lovely. She mentioned on twitter last week that she gets very self-conscious speaking on these podcasts, so I'm sure she'll apriciate your feedback. If you want to leave her a message her twitter username is @SlingshotAnnie.


Andrea interviewed Prince a few times in his last years (she says she put on her "combat boots" LOL). She also wrote an excellent history of the Minneapolis music scene:

Got to Be Something Here

The Rise of the Minneapolis Sound

2017
Author:

Andrea Swensson

Got to Be Something Here

The story, from start to superstardom, of the musicians who shaped the Minneapolis Sound

Beginning in the year of Prince’s birth, 1958, with the recording of Minnesota’s first R&B record by a North Minneapolis band called the Big Ms, Got to Be Something Here traces the rise of that distinctive sound through two generations of political upheaval, rebellion, and artistic passion.

Got to Be Something Here nails the atmosphere that I grew up in. Clubs, policies, and things that didn’t make sense back then, after reading this book make all the sense in the world. I think anyone who wants to understand musicians who hailed from North Minneapolis needs to read it. There are answers in these pages.

André Cymone




https://www.upress.umn.edu/book-division/books/got-to-be-something-here

Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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Reply #104 posted 09/03/20 5:05pm

SchlomoThaHomo

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Susannah taking credit for inspiring Crystal Ball was a bit of a stretch. I’m sure she’s inspired plenty of classic Prince songs. Seems a little thirsty to take credit for that one because he maybe wrote a line inspired by her mural.
[Edited 9/3/20 17:06pm]
"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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Reply #105 posted 09/03/20 5:24pm

LoveGalore

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Susannah taking credit for inspiring Crystal Ball was a bit of a stretch. I’m sure she’s inspired plenty of classic Prince songs. Seems a little thirsty to take credit for that one because he maybe wrote a line inspired by her mural.
[Edited 9/3/20 17:06pm]


Well they brought it back in line with Andrea. After all, I have no idea why a man who is engaged with someone is on a search for his soul mate still.

I seem to remember a story about that song being that they weren't even getting along very well at the time - precisely why he mentions her not talking to him anymore.
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Reply #106 posted 09/03/20 6:08pm

TrivialPursuit

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Milty2 said:

Omg I just listened to this chapter. People are going to hate on Wendy machinegun


Maybe, but it's Susannah talking, not Wendy. For the most part. Is Wendy even in it? I don't remember hearing her, but maybe she was there for a hot second.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #107 posted 09/03/20 7:03pm

jstar69

TrivialPursuit said:



Milty2 said:


Omg I just listened to this chapter. People are going to hate on Wendy machinegun




Maybe, but it's Susannah talking, not Wendy. For the most part. Is Wendy even in it? I don't remember hearing her, but maybe she was there for a hot second.



No she’s not!
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Reply #108 posted 09/03/20 7:04pm

jstar69

VaultCurator said:



funkbabyandthebabysitters said:


cant wait to hear it.


i love the woman hosting it. shes really good.





Andrea Swensson is really lovely. She mentioned on twitter last week that she gets very self-conscious speaking on these podcasts, so I'm sure she'll apriciate your feedback. If you want to leave her a message her twitter username is @SlingshotAnnie.



I completely agree. Andrea keep it up, your doing a fabulous job.
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Reply #109 posted 09/03/20 7:13pm

jstar69

SchlomoThaHomo said:

So Blanche seems to have been inspired by Streetcar Named Desire? Interesting. It seems like a cool song. I love hearing the stories from the former associates. It’s weird hearing Big Tall Wall with all of that instrumentation. I think I like the sparser version better. I love Andrea but is Big Tall Wall really “challenging to listen to?” I don’t take it as him being like Buffalo Bill in Silence Of The Lambs or something. More of a playful song about him wanting her all for himself.


I’ll probably get severely chastised for this, and i mentioned it when the track list came out. I think he’s paying homage to the sexy wench Blanche Devereaux from the Golden Girls. Not sure why, but I think P would’ve been a big fan of the Hit show - show was very popular around the time the song was recorded.
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Reply #110 posted 09/03/20 7:25pm

SchlomoThaHomo

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jstar69 said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

So Blanche seems to have been inspired by Streetcar Named Desire? Interesting. It seems like a cool song. I love hearing the stories from the former associates. It’s weird hearing Big Tall Wall with all of that instrumentation. I think I like the sparser version better. I love Andrea but is Big Tall Wall really “challenging to listen to?” I don’t take it as him being like Buffalo Bill in Silence Of The Lambs or something. More of a playful song about him wanting her all for himself.


I’ll probably get severely chastised for this, and i mentioned it when the track list came out. I think he’s paying homage to the sexy wench Blanche Devereaux from the Golden Girls. Not sure why, but I think P would’ve been a big fan of the Hit show - show was very popular around the time the song was recorded.


He says at the beginning that it’s a song about Blanche and Stanley’s desire. These are the main characters in A Streetcar Named Desire.
"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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Reply #111 posted 09/03/20 7:37pm

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You want to know something funny, if you were to tell me that one of Prince's songs on SOTT was recorded with a the board rigged wrong so it sounded muffled and lost the high end... it would not be The Ballad of Dorothy Parker, that sounds clear to me.

It would be "If I was Your Girlfriend" which does sound underwater. I always thought this has an almost AM radio quality to it.

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Reply #112 posted 09/03/20 7:52pm

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

Susannah taking credit for inspiring Crystal Ball was a bit of a stretch. I’m sure she’s inspired plenty of classic Prince songs. Seems a little thirsty to take credit for that one because he maybe wrote a line inspired by her mural.
[Edited 9/3/20 17:06pm]


You're surprised about that??? Didn't you know Sussanah, her family, and crew from back then says practically every song after 1982 is a song Prince wrote about Susannah?? wink
[Edited 9/3/20 20:09pm]
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Reply #113 posted 09/03/20 8:12pm

emesem

Yeah she lost me a bit there. I had no idea what she was talking about. But who am I to try to interpret the private life she shared with him at the time.

icecreamcastle777 said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:
Susannah taking credit for inspiring Crystal Ball was a bit of a stretch. I’m sure she’s inspired plenty of classic Prince songs. Seems a little thirsty to take credit for that one because he maybe wrote a line inspired by her mural. [Edited 9/3/20 17:06pm]
You're surprised about that??? Didn't you know Sussanah, her family, and crew from back then says practically every song after 1982 is a song Prince wrote about Susannah?? wink [Edited 9/3/20 20:09pm]

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Reply #114 posted 09/03/20 8:44pm

violetcrush

TheTruth123 said:

Why did it end with "Adore"? Does that imply Adore was written about Suzannah, too? The lyrics seem so clear it was the story of how he met Vanity.

What??? Prince mashed up the lyrics to Adore and FIML many times when performing FIML live, including on the SOTT film version. He wrote the song while he and Susannah were engaged and living together. He also met Susannah in a similar way - when she walked up to him at the WB Christmas party. She stated he was back in LA within a week or so, and asking to stay with Wendy and Lisa at their LA house, where he knew Susannah also lived. I have no doubt that Prince most likely called Susannah the night he met her as well, as that was most likely his m/o, and he would certainly have had the phone number.

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The lyrics describe how he felt about her and when making love to her - how special it was ("I only hear the sounds, Angels crying up above, tears of joy pouring down on us, they know we need each other, they know you are my fix, they know I ain't cheating on baby, I ain't "funkin" just for kicks. this condition I got is crucial...."). He also wrote the song Crucial during that time too.

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As Susan, Susannah, and many others have stated, Prince wrote music based on what was happening in his life at that moment in time.

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Reply #115 posted 09/03/20 8:45pm

SchlomoThaHomo

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icecreamcastle777 said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Susannah taking credit for inspiring Crystal Ball was a bit of a stretch. I’m sure she’s inspired plenty of classic Prince songs. Seems a little thirsty to take credit for that one because he maybe wrote a line inspired by her mural.
[Edited 9/3/20 17:06pm]


You're surprised about that??? Didn't you know Sussanah, her family, and crew from back then says practically every song after 1982 is a song Prince wrote about Susannah?? wink
[Edited 9/3/20 20:09pm]


Yea but this one seemed extra ridiculous. At least there’s some grey area with the others.
"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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Reply #116 posted 09/03/20 8:46pm

jstar69

SchlomoThaHomo said:

jstar69 said:



I’ll probably get severely chastised for this, and i mentioned it when the track list came out. I think he’s paying homage to the sexy wench Blanche Devereaux from the Golden Girls. Not sure why, but I think P would’ve been a big fan of the Hit show - show was very popular around the time the song was recorded.


He says at the beginning that it’s a song about Blanche and Stanley’s desire. These are the main characters in A Streetcar Named Desire.


Oh there you go. Damn was hoping it would be a GG thing. Very Familiar with the movie and characters, but I clearly missed those lyrics. Thanks for the info though
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Reply #117 posted 09/03/20 8:58pm

violetcrush

SchlomoThaHomo said:

icecreamcastle777 said:
You're surprised about that??? Didn't you know Sussanah, her family, and crew from back then says practically every song after 1982 is a song Prince wrote about Susannah?? wink [Edited 9/3/20 20:09pm]
Yea but this one seemed extra ridiculous. At least there’s some grey area with the others.

Really??? How is that so ridiculous?? It's far from just one lyric. She's literally singing backrounds with some primary vocals throughout the song with him, and the song is about the two of them making love during the "apocalypse" as he describes it in the song.

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As soldiers draw swords of sorrow
My baby draws pictures of sex (Yes, she does)
All over the walls in graphic detail - sex!

[Chorus 2]
Everybody say it now
Expert lover, huh, my baby
Ever had a Crystal Ball?
Under... undercover, ha, no maybe
All for fun and fun for all

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Really not sure why it's so hard for folks to get the fact that Prince was engaged to, and living with the woman at the time he wrote the song. He refers to "my baby" throughout the entire song.

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Reply #118 posted 09/03/20 9:29pm

violetcrush

jstar69 said:

TrivialPursuit said:


Maybe, but it's Susannah talking, not Wendy. For the most part. Is Wendy even in it? I don't remember hearing her, but maybe she was there for a hot second.

No she’s not!

Right. This second episode is ALL Susannah - talking about working with, and also living with Prince at the Galpin home. Wendy is not part of this session.

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It seems they are doing these in chronological order with regard to the months leading up to the SOTT release and tour. So, I'm sure the SOTT band will contribute to upcoming episodes.

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Reply #119 posted 09/03/20 10:04pm

MoodyBlumes

Found this part very cool:

Atlanta Bliss: So it'd just be him, and he would be singing us the parts. We didn't have anything written, but he would sing us the parts, and he would go [sings parts] — "OK, you guys ready?" He's ready to hit the red button to record that. I'd say, "Wait a second. I'm still scratching some things down." It wasn't like, "Take it home and practice it." It was like, "It's coming out of my guitar that fast; I expect it to come out of you that fast."

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