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Reply #30 posted 09/03/20 7:36am

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RJOrion said:



dodger said:


Dorothy Parker with horns sounds fucking weird





yeah, it ruins the whole funk vibe for me...horns seem too loud too



Their tone is different too, probably because they were recorded after the console was fixed.
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Reply #31 posted 09/03/20 8:14am

RighteousOne

This is turning into a good series. Just thankful that the people involved, from his muse Susanna to technical wiz Susan, are smart and heavily articulate. These stories are a very nice compliment to the upcoming album.
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Reply #32 posted 09/03/20 8:20am

RighteousOne

RJOrion said:



dodger said:


Dorothy Parker with horns sounds fucking weird





yeah, it ruins the whole funk vibe for me...horns seem too loud too


Dude, nothing was ruined. You’re hearing a horn outtake buried in a special edition 30 years after the fact. Let it go. It’s poisonous.
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Reply #33 posted 09/03/20 8:21am

JoeyCococo

I think some question or try to diminish Wendy and Lisa's contributions as they feel it threatens the legend of Prince somehow. For any of you that feel this way, I would not worry about that....I love W&L's contributions to Prince's music. I will say that if you removed his 1985-1987 output, he'd still be an unparalleled artist but those albums just shot him into the top stratosphere. Having said that, W&L put out their own solo albums. I like bits of all of them but one I have listened to most would be Fruit at the Bottom because - it sounded most like Prince! His influence is what made them better. Their influence is a tool he used or a step on a ladder he used to reach further. Said diff, if Prince was open to playing with Miles Davis or other visionairies, I think you would have seen even more greatness....b/c, Prince could do anything. I see him as a most amazing magical element that mixed with other elements, could become something remarkable with each mixture. He was the magical ingredient.

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Reply #34 posted 09/03/20 8:25am

RJOrion

RighteousOne said:

RJOrion said:

yeah, it ruins the whole funk vibe for me...horns seem too loud too

Dude, nothing was ruined. You’re hearing a horn outtake buried in a special edition 30 years after the fact. Let it go. It’s poisonous.

Only I know what is or is not ruined for ME....you tried though... lol at a "poisonous" opinion...some of you people are really strange

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Reply #35 posted 09/03/20 8:27am

RighteousOne

RJOrion said:



RighteousOne said:


RJOrion said:




yeah, it ruins the whole funk vibe for me...horns seem too loud too



Dude, nothing was ruined. You’re hearing a horn outtake buried in a special edition 30 years after the fact. Let it go. It’s poisonous.




Only I know what is or is not ruined for ME....you tried though... lol at a "poisonous" opinion...some of you people are really strange


State the obvious why don’t you? Looks like somebody got “hurt”.
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Reply #36 posted 09/03/20 8:31am

JAYJOE

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:
Sounds like Prince to me.
It's definitely Prince.

Thanks a lot for the feedback but wow, I have listened to it like 5 times and still TOTALLY souds like Wendy are we listening to the same snippet at like 23 minutes in? I know it does not help with them talking over it, does anyone else care to share their thoughts

he might have better luck if he was drummin with his Dick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply #37 posted 09/03/20 8:35am

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Thank you for the link!

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I am so glad that this is all being documented. We should thank everyone who has shared their stories of first hand involvement into the behind the scenes. This is all so important RIGHT NOW while it is still relatively fresh in their minds.

A HUGE thank you to everyone's participation in this documentation of the Prince story.

[Edited 9/3/20 8:49am]

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Reply #38 posted 09/03/20 8:41am

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Eric Leeds needs to write a book or do a podcast or something.



I keep getting the vibe that the estate is trying to talk about Sheila as little as possible, but was she even involved at this point? I feel like Prince ran to her more _after_ the Revolution breakup. Of course, we'll never know the true full story.

[Edited 9/3/20 8:41am]

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Reply #39 posted 09/03/20 8:45am

RighteousOne

billymeade said:

Eric Leeds needs to write a book or do a podcast or something.





I keep getting the vibe that the estate is trying to talk about Sheila as little as possible, but was she even involved at this point? I feel like Prince ran to her more _after_ the Revolution breakup. Of course, we'll never know the true full story.

[Edited 9/3/20 8:41am]


Yup, glad to hear from Eric that he kept a journal. We need to hear more from this master. As for Sheila, it’s not a hidden agenda or vibe. She wasn’t around. She came later, with the tour.
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Reply #40 posted 09/03/20 8:52am

Romeoblu

That is Prince on Eggplant
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Reply #41 posted 09/03/20 9:04am

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Romeoblu said:

That is Prince on Eggplant


If it is he's doing a good impression of Wendy because I'm struggling to tell the difference.

The interview over the top doesn't help.

I wonder what the logic was when they chose Prince's guide version over Wendy's version. Surely the interactions between the verses aren't going to make any sense now, if they are even included.

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Reply #42 posted 09/03/20 9:06am

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listen closely on headphones, eggplant is 110 percent prince.

i think this podcast series is well done so far, and i eagerly await further episodes.

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Reply #43 posted 09/03/20 9:08am

mbdtyler

JAYJOE said:



KlyphIsBackAgain said:


SchlomoThaHomo said:
Sounds like Prince to me.

It's definitely Prince.


Thanks a lot for the feedback but wow, I have listened to it like 5 times and still TOTALLY souds like Wendy are we listening to the same snippet at like 23 minutes in? I know it does not help with them talking over it, does anyone else care to share their thoughts



I'm not listening with headphones so I can't say for sure, but it sounded like Wendy to me too (maybe a different take from what I remember hearing on the bootleg?)
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Reply #44 posted 09/03/20 9:17am

Romeoblu

Big Tall Wall is so different.

Much more upbeat. Sounds like it belongs with Eggplant and Everybody Wants.
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Reply #45 posted 09/03/20 9:36am

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Reply #46 posted 09/03/20 9:37am

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"The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker" with some horns is definately weird.

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My whole expectation of that fabled 12" single has been smashed to smithereens sad

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we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #47 posted 09/03/20 9:52am

PacManPlus


I love that Prince's favorite arcade game was Defender! smile I am in the middle of porting it to the Atari 7800. Very cool.


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Reply #48 posted 09/03/20 10:05am

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No Miko?

I think I will wait until it comes out to listen...
"Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!"
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Reply #49 posted 09/03/20 10:23am

RighteousOne

OnlyNDaUsa said:

No Miko? I think I will wait until it comes out to listen...

If you did listen, then you'd know Miko came later, with the tour.

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Reply #50 posted 09/03/20 10:40am

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Another really interesting episode with thoughtful, insightful commentary.

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More salty tears from haters incoming....

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Reply #51 posted 09/03/20 10:41am

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dodger said:

Dorothy Parker with horns sounds fucking weird


I don't know man. It kinda fits. It's got that lazy cafe feeling, lyrically & production-wise. Those lazy sorta horns sliding around make sense. I'm super anxious to hear the whole thing now.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #52 posted 09/03/20 11:14am

donnyenglish

The SOTT band shade was less this time but there were moments. I find it interesting that Susan Rogers felt like Prince lost something when he went with the “Oakland” band. Prince seemed to think that band took him higher. Many fans agree with Prince that his SOTT/Lovesexy band was an improvement from his previous bands.
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Reply #53 posted 09/03/20 11:20am

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RighteousOne said:



OnlyNDaUsa said:


No Miko? I think I will wait until it comes out to listen...

If you did listen, then you'd know Miko came later, with the tour.




The Miko bit was a joke... And the reason I may wait is so I can hear the new to me songs/versions in their entirety.
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Reply #54 posted 09/03/20 11:29am

RJOrion

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The SOTT band shade was less this time but there were moments. I find it interesting that Susan Rogers felt like Prince lost something when he went with the “Oakland” band. Prince seemed to think that band took him higher. Many fans agree with Prince that his SOTT/Lovesexy band was an improvement from his previous bands.

yeah i caught that too...typical Susan Rogers fawning over W&L

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Reply #55 posted 09/03/20 11:40am

RighteousOne

donnyenglish said:

The SOTT band shade was less this time but there were moments. I find it interesting that Susan Rogers felt like Prince lost something when he went with the “Oakland” band. Prince seemed to think that band took him higher. Many fans agree with Prince that his SOTT/Lovesexy band was an improvement from his previous bands.

Pointless to compare. Each had their own unique traits. In terms of recording, I guess the band were more evident on the next album, Lovesexy. Just as brilliant, in my view, but for different reasons. When the LOVESEXY special edition podcast comes along, I'm sure you'll get your fill.

[Edited 9/3/20 11:43am]

[Edited 9/3/20 11:46am]

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Reply #56 posted 09/03/20 11:42am

RighteousOne

RJOrion said:

donnyenglish said:

The SOTT band shade was less this time but there were moments. I find it interesting that Susan Rogers felt like Prince lost something when he went with the “Oakland” band. Prince seemed to think that band took him higher. Many fans agree with Prince that his SOTT/Lovesexy band was an improvement from his previous bands.

yeah i caught that too...typical Susan Rogers fawning over W&L

You obviously have a bias, which is fine. But you should admit that too. Instead, we all see how disingenuous you're being. Yes. it's that transparent.

[Edited 9/3/20 11:44am]

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Reply #57 posted 09/03/20 11:49am

mediumdry

This piece of info was new to me, or was this already widely known?

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"Duane Tudahl, senior researcher for the Prince Estate Archives"

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Good on them for getting him and I hope it makes the studio sessions books more or less guaranteed to continue!

Paisley Park is in your heart - Love Is Here!
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Reply #58 posted 09/03/20 11:50am

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RighteousOne said:

donnyenglish said:

The SOTT band shade was less this time but there were moments. I find it interesting that Susan Rogers felt like Prince lost something when he went with the “Oakland” band. Prince seemed to think that band took him higher. Many fans agree with Prince that his SOTT/Lovesexy band was an improvement from his previous bands.

Pointless to compare. Each had their own unique traits. In terms of recording, I guess the band were more evident on the next album, Lovesexy. Just as brilliant, in my view, but for different reasons. When the LOVESEXY special edition podcast comes along, I'm sure you'll get your fill.

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I think fans can/should compare. Those comparisons result in great dialogue. Associates should not compare. I think it is bad form when associates throw shade and try to discredit eras that they were not a part of. Prince was magic in every era and various associates were lucky to be a part of those eras. Sheila is probably the one person who was there and had a substantial contribution to many of those eras. Can't wait to hear from her.

[Edited 9/3/20 11:51am]

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Reply #59 posted 09/03/20 11:58am

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donnyenglish said:

The SOTT band shade was less this time but there were moments. I find it interesting that Susan Rogers felt like Prince lost something when he went with the “Oakland” band. Prince seemed to think that band took him higher. Many fans agree with Prince that his SOTT/Lovesexy band was an improvement from his previous bands.


I took Susan’s comment to mean that Prince was letting go of a significant part of his creative life, letting go of it/losing it so that he could move on to new creative things with a new band. I think Susan Rogers is incredibly intelligent, considered and well-meaning in everything she says. (even if she does hate Adonis & Bathsheba, which is a terrible sin)
PIPS! Eurgh...
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