donnyenglish said:

RighteousOne said:

Pointless to compare. Each had their own unique traits. In terms of recording, I guess the band were more evident on the next album, Lovesexy. Just as brilliant, in my view, but for different reasons. When the LOVESEXY special edition podcast comes along, I'm sure you'll get your fill.

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I think fans can/should compare. Those comparisons result in great dialogue. Associates should not compare. I think it is bad form when associates throw shade and try to discredit eras that they were not a part of. Prince was magic in every era and various associates were lucky to be a part of those eras. Sheila is probably the one person who was there and had a substantial contribution to many of those eras. Can't wait to hear from her.

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What are you comparing, though? He/she was a better guitarist? Dancer? Influence? Muse? See how murky it all starts to get? Also, with the best will in the world, I've seen Sheila E talk and discuss Prince. Great drummer but not very articulate. You really think you'd get the same amount of info from her as you would from the people on these podcasts? Good luck with that.

RighteousOne said:

RJOrion said:

yeah i caught that too...typical Susan Rogers fawning over W&L

You obviously have a bias, which is fine. But you should admit that too. Instead, we all see how disingenuous you're being. Yes. it's that transparent.

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i admit that i feel bias towards the Prince bandmates i prefer hearing on his songs, and i would love to hear THEIR input as well...like, Miko and Sheila....you happy now?......fall back

I've never heard Eric Leeds sound so excited about Prince's music - his reaction to Dorothy Parker was beautiful.

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I do wish there was more of his comments about the recording of this.

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This is gearing up to be a wonderful podcast series.

"Sheila E is not very articulate"...

LOL.here we go with the stupid stuff

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someone remind me what sheila had to do with the time periods discussed in the podcast as of episodes 1 and 2. someone remind me. please someone remind me. and then someone remind my good buddy rjorion. and then someone also remind him there are 6 whole episodes left.

lustmealways said:

someone remind me what sheila had to do with the time periods discussed in the podcast as of episodes 1 and 2. someone remind me. please someone remind me. and then someone remind my good buddy rjorion. and then someone also remind him there are 6 whole episodes left.

omg all the bickering to come

OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Holy Peach and Black!!! Sorry, but this segment is beyond fantastic!!

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*ERIC LEEDS DOES NOT EVEN HAVE HIS OWN COPY OF THE TRACK WITH HIS HORN ON DOROTHY PARKER!!!!

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*BIG TALL WALL!!!!!! ARE YOU KIDDING ME??!!! COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THEN THE BOOT!

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*AND YES, SUSAN ROGERS ACKNOWLEDGES THE UNIQUE CHORDS AND SOUNDS THAT BOTH WENDY AND LISA BROUGHT TO THE MUSIC.

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*THE STORY OF FIML..."WHO'S IT FOR?" (meaning is he giving it to another musician) "I'M KEEPING IT FOR MYSELF"

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LOVE EVERY SECOND OF THIS AUDIO!!!!!!!!!!!

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Milty2 said:

lustmealways said:

someone remind me what sheila had to do with the time periods discussed in the podcast as of episodes 1 and 2. someone remind me. please someone remind me. and then someone remind my good buddy rjorion. and then someone also remind him there are 6 whole episodes left.

omg all the bickering to come

LOL!!!! Right?!!!

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I don't even care anymore, because THIS!!! THIS segment blew me away!!!! I'm good y'all. Bicker away

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I CANNOT WAIT FOR MY SOTT DELUXE TO ARRIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lustmealways said:

someone remind me what sheila had to do with the time periods discussed in the podcast as of episodes 1 and 2. someone remind me. please someone remind me. and then someone remind my good buddy rjorion. and then someone also remind him there are 6 whole episodes left.

i dont need reminding...im fully aware of that...i was just adressing my so-called "biases", to the knucklehead i was replying to...

Hearing his former lover and muse talk about the songs written for her, about her, and/or because of her is an absolute joy. What else can a Prince fan ask for?? We have a whole lotta more ground to cover regarding this time period. Just just sit back and enjoy it instead of nitpicking it to death!

SimonCharles said:

I've never heard Eric Leeds sound so excited about Prince's music - his reaction to Dorothy Parker was beautiful.

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I do wish there was more of his comments about the recording of this.

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This is gearing up to be a wonderful podcast series.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wrote that as the first part that I loved on this segment!!! His authentic surprise was just infectious Getting SOOOO excited for the release!

RJOrion said:

RighteousOne said:

You obviously have a bias, which is fine. But you should admit that too. Instead, we all see how disingenuous you're being. Yes. it's that transparent.

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i admit that i feel bias towards the Prince bandmates i prefer hearing on his songs, and i would love to hear THEIR input as well...like, Miko and Sheila....you happy now?......fall back

Not good enough. Like I said to someone else, when the LOVESEXY special edition podcast comes along, have at it.

violetcrush said:

SimonCharles said:

I've never heard Eric Leeds sound so excited about Prince's music - his reaction to Dorothy Parker was beautiful.

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I do wish there was more of his comments about the recording of this.

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This is gearing up to be a wonderful podcast series.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wrote that as the first part that I loved on this segment!!! His authentic surprise was just infectious Getting SOOOO excited for the release!

That it was.

mbdtyler said:

JAYJOE said:

Thanks a lot for the feedback but wow, I have listened to it like 5 times and still TOTALLY souds like Wendy are we listening to the same snippet at like 23 minutes in? I know it does not help with them talking over it, does anyone else care to share their thoughts

I'm not listening with headphones so I can't say for sure, but it sounded like Wendy to me too (maybe a different take from what I remember hearing on the bootleg?)

I hear Wendy...

RJOrion said:

"Sheila E is not very articulate"...

LOL.here we go with the stupid stuff

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I didn't think this point was controversial (or funny). If you knew anything about creativity, you'd know that creative types aren't especially good at verbalizing what they do. Sheila is a case in point (have you ever heard her talk)? And, of course, as this podcast underscores, neither is Prince. That's why you get people like Susan Rogers--articulate, knowledgable, interesting--to talk about what happened instead. They're not the creators. How is it possible you don't understand this?

RighteousOne said:

RJOrion said:

i admit that i feel bias towards the Prince bandmates i prefer hearing on his songs, and i would love to hear THEIR input as well...like, Miko and Sheila....you happy now?......fall back

Not good enough. Like I said to someone else, when the LOVESEXY special edition podcast comes along, have at it.

LOL @ "not good enough"...aint that a bitch?... you must have me confused with "someone else" then, tough guy...

i'll have at, what i wanna have at, when i wanna have at it...ya'dig?

RJOrion said:

RighteousOne said:

Not good enough. Like I said to someone else, when the LOVESEXY special edition podcast comes along, have at it.

LOL @ "not good enough"...aint that a bitch?... you must have me confused with "someone else" then, tough guy...

i'll have at, what i wanna have at, when i wanna have at it...ya'dig?

Now you're just being childish. Get back to me when you have something to contribute.

sulls said:

RighteousOne said:

RJOrion said:

"Sheila E is not very articulate"...

LOL.here we go with the stupid stuff

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I didn't think this point was controversial (or funny). If you knew anything about creativity, you'd know that creative types aren't especially good at verbalizing what they do. Sheila is a case in point (have you ever heard her talk)? And, of course, as this podcast underscores, neither is Prince. That's why you get people like Susan Rogers--articulate, knowledgable, interesting--to talk about what happened instead. They're not the creators. How is it possible you don't understand this?

Nah. We know what you mean. I don't hear any complaints about other "artists" articulating themselves on the podcasts.

Poplife88 said:

Poplife88 said:

Hearing his former lover and muse talk about the songs written for her, about her, and/or because of her is an absolute joy. What else can a Prince fan ask for?? We have a whole lotta more ground to cover regarding this time period. Just just sit back and enjoy it instead of nitpicking it to death!

YAASSSSSSS!!!!!! I was reminded of the online interview Prince did (as ) for AOL in July of 1997. He was answering questions, supposedly asked by fans but I'm sure he got to pick and choose the questions - and one of them was:

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"what was your inspiration for the song Forever In My Life?"

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Prince replied: "Susannah. She knows."

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OMG I loved that SOOOO much!! When did he EVER give that kind of personal info back then??! Coincidentally, I think that was about a month or so before she got married to Doyle. Things that make you go hmmmm

RighteousOne said:

RJOrion said:

"Sheila E is not very articulate"...

LOL.here we go with the stupid stuff

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I didn't think this point was controversial (or funny). If you knew anything about creativity, you'd know that creative types aren't especially good at verbalizing what they do. Sheila is a case in point (have you ever heard her talk)? And, of course, as this podcast underscores, neither is Prince. That's why you get people like Susan Rogers--articulate, knowledgable, interesting--to talk about what happened instead. They're not the creators. How is it possible you don't understand this?

What???!!! That is one of the most absurd comments I've heard in a long time. Have you listened to Sheila's VERY long interview with Questlove on his podcast?? One of my favorites that he's done, and Sheila is quite articulate and easy to understand. SO degrading and insulting for you to even assume this is the reason why Sheila is not part of the first and second segments of this podcast.

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Perhaps you don't recall that Sheila, during most of 1986 (March - December) was touring with her band, which included Miko, opening for Lionel Ritchie's US tour?? She was not around much during the period they've been discussing. I have NO doubt that when they begin discussing the rehearsals and the European tour Sheila will be front and center for those segments. I'm sure, if possible, they will also get Matt Fink, Miko, Levi, and Cat Glover too.

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Yes, Susan Rogers is extremely smart and articulate. However, SHE WAS ALSO WITH PRINCE 24/7 DURINIG THIS TIME PERIOD WORKING AS HIS ENGINEER FOR ALL OF THIS MUSIC. So yeah, I'd say she is an important person to start these segments. Wendy, Lisa and Susannah were ALSO there ALL THE TIME from late '85 through most of '86, and they also PLAYED on many of the songs recorded during that period. So yeah, THEY are also important to include in these first segments which are actually focused on the first stages of developing the SOTT record.

donnyenglish said:

RighteousOne said:

I didn't think this point was controversial (or funny). If you knew anything about creativity, you'd know that creative types aren't especially good at verbalizing what they do. Sheila is a case in point (have you ever heard her talk)? And, of course, as this podcast underscores, neither is Prince. That's why you get people like Susan Rogers--articulate, knowledgable, interesting--to talk about what happened instead. They're not the creators. How is it possible you don't understand this?

Nah. We know what you mean. I don't hear any complaints about other "artists" articulating themselves on the podcasts.

Wah? Sounds like a non-sequitur to me. Went straight past my bat.

violetcrush said:

RighteousOne said:

I didn't think this point was controversial (or funny). If you knew anything about creativity, you'd know that creative types aren't especially good at verbalizing what they do. Sheila is a case in point (have you ever heard her talk)? And, of course, as this podcast underscores, neither is Prince. That's why you get people like Susan Rogers--articulate, knowledgable, interesting--to talk about what happened instead. They're not the creators. How is it possible you don't understand this?

What???!!! That is one of the most absurd comments I've heard in a long time. Have you listened to Sheila's VERY long interview with Questlove on his podcast?? One of my favorites that he's done, and Sheila is quite articulate and easy to understand. SO degrading and insulting for you to even assume this is the reason why Sheila is not part of the first and second segments of this podcast.

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Perhaps you don't recall that Sheila, during most of 1986 (March - December) was touring with her band, which included Miko, opening for Lionel Ritchie's US tour?? She was not around much during the period they've been discussing. I have NO doubt that when they begin discussing the rehearsals and the European tour Sheila will be front and center for those segments. I'm sure, if possible, they will also get Matt Fink, Miko, Levi, and Cat Glover too.

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Yes, Susan Rogers is extremely smart and articulate. However, SHE WAS ALSO WITH PRINCE 24/7 DURINIG THIS TIME PERIOD WORKING AS HIS ENGINEER FOR ALL OF THIS MUSIC. So yeah, I'd say she is an important person to start these segments. Wendy, Lisa and Susannah were ALSO there ALL THE TIME from late '85 through most of '86, and they also PLAYED on many of the songs recorded during that period. So yeah, THEY are also important to include in these first segments which are actually focused on the first stages of developing the SOTT record.

Sheila is a very nice person, in real life. Honest!

RighteousOne said:

violetcrush said:

What???!!! That is one of the most absurd comments I've heard in a long time. Have you listened to Sheila's VERY long interview with Questlove on his podcast?? One of my favorites that he's done, and Sheila is quite articulate and easy to understand. SO degrading and insulting for you to even assume this is the reason why Sheila is not part of the first and second segments of this podcast.

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Perhaps you don't recall that Sheila, during most of 1986 (March - December) was touring with her band, which included Miko, opening for Lionel Ritchie's US tour?? She was not around much during the period they've been discussing. I have NO doubt that when they begin discussing the rehearsals and the European tour Sheila will be front and center for those segments. I'm sure, if possible, they will also get Matt Fink, Miko, Levi, and Cat Glover too.

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Yes, Susan Rogers is extremely smart and articulate. However, SHE WAS ALSO WITH PRINCE 24/7 DURINIG THIS TIME PERIOD WORKING AS HIS ENGINEER FOR ALL OF THIS MUSIC. So yeah, I'd say she is an important person to start these segments. Wendy, Lisa and Susannah were ALSO there ALL THE TIME from late '85 through most of '86, and they also PLAYED on many of the songs recorded during that period. So yeah, THEY are also important to include in these first segments which are actually focused on the first stages of developing the SOTT record.

Sheila is a very nice person, in real life. Honest!

WTF are you talking about??! Didn't you just write a post a few back implying that the reason Sheila was not included on the first and second segments of the SOTT Deluxe podcast is because they don't think she's "articulate enough" for the show?? Isn't that what you stated??

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So, now you are implying that you know Sheila personally? I hope not - considering you just made that absurd implication...

violetcrush said:

RighteousOne said:

Sheila is a very nice person, in real life. Honest!

WTF are you talking about??! Didn't you just write a post a few back implying that the reason Sheila was not included on the first and second segments of the SOTT Deluxe podcast is because they don't think she's "articulate enough" for the show?? Isn't that what you stated??

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So, now you are implying that you know Sheila personally? I hope not - considering you just made that absurd implication...

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Here ya go "righteousone"....in case you've come down with a case of selective memory....

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RJOrion said:

"Sheila E is not very articulate"...

LOL.here we go with the stupid stuff

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Righteousone replied: I didn't think this point was controversial (or funny). If you knew anything about creativity, you'd know that creative types aren't especially good at verbalizing what they do. Sheila is a case in point (have you ever heard her talk)? And, of course, as this podcast underscores, neither is Prince. That's why you get people like Susan Rogers--articulate, knowledgable, interesting--to talk about what happened instead. They're not the creators. How is it possible you don't understand this?

jstar69 said:

Excellent. Loved it and loved hearing Susannah talk so candidly about her time with prince. The sound quality of the tracks also sound outstanding. Can’t wait

Agreed. I absolutely loved both of Susannah's lengthy interviews with Toure too. SOOOO much detail and great information - both from a relationship and collaborative perspective.

sulls said:

mbdtyler said:

JAYJOE said: I'm not listening with headphones so I can't say for sure, but it sounded like Wendy to me too (maybe a different take from what I remember hearing on the bootleg?)

I hear Wendy...

Yeah, I listened to it a couples times now and to my ears (which IMO there's no doubt) it's Wendy on lead vocals...on at least the snippet on the podcast anyway. Not sure why it'd be listed as a Prince vocal, but I'm not the estate, so...