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Reply #150 posted 05/31/20 5:58am

udo

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eyewishuheaven said:

Agreed. TBA is an unneeded epilogue to SOTT, but a much-needed prologue to Lovesexy.

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Reply #151 posted 05/31/20 5:59am

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Strive said:

The tracklist floating around on Twitter is a fake

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That is the list with TBA, CB and one disc of Live (France or Netherlands)?

Good to know...

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Reply #152 posted 05/31/20 6:30am

RODSERLING

udo said:



RODSERLING said:


And what is TBA ?

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In this area: The Black Album.


At concert halls and such: To Be Announced.



And why in hell would it be on the SOTT deluxe set?
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Reply #153 posted 05/31/20 6:48am

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RODSERLING said:

And why in hell would it be on the SOTT deluxe set?

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Because it is a fake tracklist.

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Reply #154 posted 05/31/20 8:47am

Rimshottbob

This whole thread is a fucking fake.

What a waste of pages - idiots bickering about pointless nonsense, random guesses... wow.

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Reply #155 posted 05/31/20 9:22am

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The discrepancy between the amount of CDs and LPs is interesting, and actually supports the inclusion of an SOTT concert.

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SOTT (2CD/2LP)
+ Mixes/B-Sides (1CD/2LP -- this is supported by the Deluxe being 3CD/4LP)
+ From The Vault (3CD/6LP -- no way they're going to fill one of those CDs only halfway)
= 6CD / 10LP

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Which leaves 2CD/3LP. Now, 3 LPs is approx. 120 minutes. And what is approx. 120 minutes (or slightly less)? I'm guessing that's a concert recording.

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Reply #156 posted 05/31/20 10:44am

homesquid

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EnDoRpHn said:

homesquid said:

Then you are wrong and need new ears and a new heart (might as well swap the brain too)

Maybe you should re-post my full quote and not a selective extract, homesquat. You seem to be the one lacking in the cerebral forematter.

As I expected. A weak azz response from you. Wise up, wee one.

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Reply #157 posted 05/31/20 10:58am

homesquid

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BartVanHemelen said:

The discrepancy between the amount of CDs and LPs is interesting, and actually supports the inclusion of an SOTT concert.

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SOTT (2CD/2LP)
+ Mixes/B-Sides (1CD/2LP -- this is supported by the Deluxe being 3CD/4LP)
+ From The Vault (3CD/6LP -- no way they're going to fill one of those CDs only halfway)
= 6CD / 10LP

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Which leaves 2CD/3LP. Now, 3 LPs is approx. 120 minutes. And what is approx. 120 minutes (or slightly less)? I'm guessing that's a concert recording.

What about the movie?

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Reply #158 posted 05/31/20 11:23am

jdcxc

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  • Sign O' The Times (Edit) 3:42

  • La, La, La, He, He, Hee 3:21

  • La, La, La, He, He, Hee (Highly Explosive) 10:32

  • If I Was Your Girlfriend 3:46

  • Shockadelica 3:30

  • Shockadelica (Extended Version) 6:12

  • U Got The Look (Video Version) 5:32

  • U Got The Look (Long Look) 6:45

  • Housequake (7 Minutes MoQuake) 7:15

  • Housequake (Edit) 3:24

  • Hot Thing (Dub Version) 6:53

  • Hot Thing (Edit) 3:40

  • Hot Thing (Extended Remix) 8:32

  • I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man (Fade) 3:39


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Total: 76:43



Why include those Single Edits? If it’s just about being completist, offer them separately somewhere. They really drag down the flow for the listener.
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Reply #159 posted 05/31/20 11:27am

Strive

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What about the movie?


My personal theory is that since it said world on the paper and since it's only DVD, we aren't going to be the Sign concert film as the included concert.

Worldwide, different film companies own the rights. That's why it's been released in Canada, Australia and Japan on Blu-Ray. And why the estate licensed the digital rights to Showtime. (Now I think FilmRise has the digital rights)



But you know, this is all speculation until June 7th. Maybe they'll surprise me and license it for the other countries. But they have a HD transder so it'd make no sense to include the concert film as a DVD only.

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Reply #160 posted 05/31/20 12:58pm

jn2

My hope: the Paris aftershow with Wasn't my faith. All the originals CB planned tracks. No more SOTT movie but a DVD/blue ray of a "real" concert.

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Reply #161 posted 05/31/20 1:02pm

Rimshottbob

jdcxc said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Total: 76:43

Why include those Single Edits? If it’s just about being completist, offer them separately somewhere. They really drag down the flow for the listener.

Are we really going to have this conversation again for Sign O The Times, like we did for 1999?

They are ALWAYS going to include a disc of single edits/Remixes/B-Sides. As they should.

It's a Super Deluxe Version, and those singles etc, often unique in their edits and mixes, belong here. It's ALWAYS going to be the case.

The sets would be incomplete without them. You don't like them, skip that disc if you don't want to interrupt the 'flow'.... but this isn't really worth discussing. The edits disc is a thing.

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Reply #162 posted 05/31/20 1:03pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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I do not want to see: the Movie, I do not want to see the albums that lead up to SIGN... or the BA. I do not want the edits either but it seems to be the case....


I want the songs that are unreleased or alternative takes. i want a convert audio and a concert video (NOT THE MOVIE).

[Edited 5/31/20 13:04pm]

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Reply #163 posted 05/31/20 1:18pm

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I hope that Sign O The Times instrumental will B included.
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Reply #164 posted 05/31/20 1:24pm

SrHoneyguy

JAYJOE said:

From a reliable source.......

SOTT Remaster - 18/09/20

(9 Different configurations)

Main 2 of interest

Super Deluxe Edition CD

8CD+DVD

Super Deluxe Edition

13LP+DVD


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Edited and image found by luv4u


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Reply #165 posted 05/31/20 1:28pm

BartVanHemelen

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homesquid said:

What about the movie?

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Is it so bloody hard to read the credits of the movie? Or read the threads when the German BD was announced?

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Reply #166 posted 05/31/20 1:31pm

BartVanHemelen

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Strive said:

And why the estate licensed the digital rights to Showtime.

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The Prince estate had zilch to do with the movie being on Showtime.

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Reply #167 posted 05/31/20 1:34pm

leecaldon

Rimshottbob said:

jdcxc said:

BartVanHemelen said: Why include those Single Edits? If it’s just about being completist, offer them separately somewhere. They really drag down the flow for the listener.

Are we really going to have this conversation again for Sign O The Times, like we did for 1999?

They are ALWAYS going to include a disc of single edits/Remixes/B-Sides. As they should.

It's a Super Deluxe Version, and those singles etc, often unique in their edits and mixes, belong here. It's ALWAYS going to be the case.

The sets would be incomplete without them. You don't like them, skip that disc if you don't want to interrupt the 'flow'.... but this isn't really worth discussing. The edits disc is a thing.

This.

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Reply #168 posted 05/31/20 1:46pm

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leecaldon said:

Rimshottbob said:

Are we really going to have this conversation again for Sign O The Times, like we did for 1999?

They are ALWAYS going to include a disc of single edits/Remixes/B-Sides. As they should.

It's a Super Deluxe Version, and those singles etc, often unique in their edits and mixes, belong here. It's ALWAYS going to be the case.

The sets would be incomplete without them. You don't like them, skip that disc if you don't want to interrupt the 'flow'.... but this isn't really worth discussing. The edits disc is a thing.

This.


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Reply #169 posted 05/31/20 1:49pm

homesquid

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BartVanHemelen said:

homesquid said:

What about the movie?

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Is it so bloody hard to read the credits of the movie? Or read the threads when the German BD was announced?

Aw yes. You're on the rag today. My question was why not include the movie in the Super Deluxe?

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Reply #170 posted 05/31/20 1:58pm

Strive

BartVanHemelen said:

Strive said:

And why the estate licensed the digital rights to Showtime.

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The Prince estate had zilch to do with the movie being on Showtime.


So who owns the US rights to that if not the Estate?

[Edited 5/31/20 13:59pm]

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Reply #171 posted 05/31/20 2:06pm

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homesquid said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Is it so bloody hard to read the credits of the movie? Or read the threads when the German BD was announced?

Aw yes. You're on the rag today. My question was why not include the movie in the Super Deluxe?


That film isn't a WB property. I suppose a deal could be cut, but I'd take a concert video from the vault over another copy of the movie any day of the week.

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Reply #172 posted 05/31/20 2:06pm

Wolfie87

Where is Spike Lee's S☮️TT:30 ?
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Reply #173 posted 05/31/20 2:09pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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Strive said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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The Prince estate had zilch to do with the movie being on Showtime.


So who owns the US rights to that if not the Estate?

[Edited 5/31/20 13:59pm]

the family hasl little if any real say.... the estate is in the hands of a trust they make most if not all of the decisions.

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Reply #174 posted 05/31/20 2:19pm

BartVanHemelen

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Strive said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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The Prince estate had zilch to do with the movie being on Showtime.


So who owns the US rights to that if not the Estate?

[Edited 5/31/20 13:59pm]

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https://filmrise.com/film...-the-times

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Reply #175 posted 05/31/20 3:03pm

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Ramzoo said:

I hope that Sign O The Times instrumental will B included.


This came to my mind too.
It can heard in the credits of the movie.
The instrumental version with a proper ending, not a fade out like the album version.
There must be a full length vocal version too
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Reply #176 posted 05/31/20 3:26pm

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udo said:

- TBA on this set? (CD7)


- one live CD? (thus: incomplete show) (CD8)


- no SOTT remastered full original tracklist


- ...


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If these rumours are true then they have botched the set even before it is available.


In such case, my free advice:


Skip TBA as it is already available.


Do the full live show.


Add two discs with SOTT as we know it but in remastered shape.


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[Edited 5/31/20 1:03am]


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I'm really sorry. Someone took my suggested track list from an old discussion thread and is sharing it around as if it could be genuine.
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https://prince.org/msg/7/460850
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Reply #177 posted 05/31/20 3:34pm

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VaultCurator said:

. I'm really sorry. Someone took my suggested track list from an old discussion thread and is sharing it around as if it could be genuine. . https://prince.org/msg/7/460850

you don't have to apologize for the hooligan who's parading your tracklist around, but you do have to apologize for putting Black on a SOTT deluxe lol

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Reply #178 posted 05/31/20 3:47pm

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lustmealways said:



VaultCurator said:


. I'm really sorry. Someone took my suggested track list from an old discussion thread and is sharing it around as if it could be genuine. . https://prince.org/msg/7/460850

you don't have to apologize for the hooligan who's parading your tracklist around, but you do have to apologize for putting Black on a SOTT deluxe lol


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On reflection that was a mistake. I regret using the Crystal Ball sequence as well. The logic was that because the CB track list was longer there would be less empty space on the first 2 discs. I was just trying to fit as much on as I could. Sorry for causing any confusion. That was never my intention.
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Reply #179 posted 05/31/20 4:10pm

dsimp8

Where is the link to the supposed real track list?
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