The thread title gave me anxiety. SOTT era is the be all end all of Prince for me. I don't care if it costs $500

EnDoRpHn said:

Wolfie87 said:

Honestly, I want this project to be called Crystal Ball: Original configuration. This was his vision and he would've done it. But the executives was the last obstacle to the greatest album of the 80's and maybe of all time. S☮️TT was an afterthought. Disappointing really when you think about what could have been.

I'm thrilled beyond belief about this news, but this is why I will never consider SOTT Prince's "greatest album".

Then you are wrong and need new ears and a new heart (might as well swap the brain too)

BartVanHemelen said:

Kares said:

What I'd love (apart from as much unreleased material in perfect quality as possible) is to see the CD-version in the same 12" box packaging with the same 12" sized booklet as the LP version.
I don't really care about vinyl and I hate to have to pay a HUGE price premium just to get the same full sized booklet that the vinyl box has.

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Amen. Give the collectors their money's worth.

I second that !I contacted Paisley Park about getting the full vinyl sized booklet and as told the vinyl booklet was only availbale with vinyl purchase. I bought the CD Super Deluxe but would gladly pay an extra $20 or so for the full sized booklet.

homesquid said:

EnDoRpHn said:

I'm thrilled beyond belief about this news, but this is why I will never consider SOTT Prince's "greatest album".

Then you are wrong and need new ears and a new heart (might as well swap the brain too)

Maybe you should re-post my full quote and not a selective extract, homesquat. You seem to be the one lacking in the cerebral forematter.

homesquid said:

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EnDoRpHn said:

homesquid said:

Then you are wrong and need new ears and a new heart (might as well swap the brain too)

Maybe you should re-post my full quote and not a selective extract, homesquat.

I've poured over the full quote three times over now and really have no idea wtf you're talking about with this latest post.

I'll post the full abomination for homesquid:

EnDoRpHn said:

I'm thrilled beyond belief about this news, but this is why I will never consider SOTT Prince's "greatest album". It's not thematically or sonically coherent. 3/4 of the album is solid, and it certainly contains the most unique, ground-breaking songs Prince ever recorded. But there's no way anyone could put Slow Love, It and U Got the Look (which is a great pop song but would never be on my to-go list of incredible Prince songs) up there with The Ballad of Dorothy Parker, SOTT (the song) or Adore -- let alone with the hundreds of other truly great songs in Prince's canon.

I think Parade is just as strong as Purple Rain as a stand-alone *album*, and both are stronger as stand-alone efforts than the hodge-podge of SOTT. 1999 remains to me his strongest single album, especially because each of the 4 original sides could well have been its own EP. If Prince had never recorded anything other than these 4 albums, he would still be considered one of the greatest artists of the 20th century.

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It looks that you think of SOTT as a "hodge-podge" inferior to at least three Prince records (SOTT inferior to Parade, Purple Rain and 1999, you say?)? Really, homesquid did you a favor chopping this down to "selective extract." I just thought you were plain wrong, now I think you're wrong cubed.

P.S. "It" might be better and/or just as good as all three of your "greats" list, brah. Try harder.

I hope so! I did talk to someone with an inside track and they said something coy like "Oh that would be cool..."

I really hope they lay out something like this:

• The original remastered SOTT album
• The tracks that were cut from Crystal Ball + Feel U Up
• All tracks recorded for the various configurations of Dream Factory that didn't make it to SOTT
• Whatever outtakes or tracks that are left to fill out the remaining discs

Ideally, everything would be mixed and mastered to sound consistent so that fans could configure their own version of any unreleased proto-SOTT album, and everyone would be happy.

mbdtyler said:

mbdtyler said:

I really hope they lay out something like this:

• The original remastered SOTT album
• The tracks that were cut from Crystal Ball + Feel U Up
• All tracks recorded for the various configurations of Dream Factory that didn't make it to SOTT
• Whatever outtakes or tracks that are left to fill out the remaining discs

Ideally, everything would be mixed and mastered to sound consistent so that fans could configure their own version of any unreleased proto-SOTT album, and everyone would be happy.

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Shouldn't some of this stuff be on the Parade Super Deluxe set?

Where can we draw the line?

Strive said:

- TBA on this set? (CD7)

- one live CD? (thus: incomplete show) (CD8)

- no SOTT remastered full original tracklist

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If these rumours are true then they have botched the set even before it is available.

In such case, my free advice:

Skip TBA as it is already available.

Do the full live show.

Add two discs with SOTT as we know it but in remastered shape.

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WhisperingDandelions said:

luv4u said:

Not confirmed yet.

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If the rumours are true, and no SOTT (full original tracklist, remastered) is on this set, then it cannot be named Sign O The Times Super Deluxe.

Perhaps Sign O The Times Era Super Deluxe might be more appropriate.

EnDoRpHn said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

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So you can’t read either? I was replying to Wolfie87, who said:

Honestly, I want this project to be called Crystal Ball: Original configuration. This was his vision and he would've done it. But the executives was the last obstacle to the greatest album of the 80's and maybe of all time. S☮️TT was an afterthought. Disappointing really when you think about what could have been.

And that’s all the time I’ve got for a jizzmouth who thinks that “It” is better than anything on Purple Rain, Parade, or 1999.

Homophobic epithets in 2020, this is where you are mentally? Suddenly it all becomes crystal clear.

You concurred with Wolfie87 post, did you miss that part? With added emphasis, I might add. And you only listed three "great" songs specifically by name, all of which were on SOTT which is the topic at hand here. Parade, Purple Rain and 1999 are albums, you specified zero "great" songs from them.

I literally pasted your entire asinine post where you agreed with the post you quoted and you couldn't even interpret one iota correctly after two tries... and somehow you wrote the damn thing.

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What is it about "It" that makes it so egregiously inferior to you? I know it.. It's a lyric thing with "It" isn't it? Because "It" isn't all "Sunday Song" or grandstandingly utopic with its lyrical premise, because it's about as basic a lyrical concept as Prince gets with no added nuance or subtly, "It" can't be musically superior? Please.

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udo said:

BartVanHemelen said:

leecaldon said:

Why won't they release an aftershow?

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Why release something obscure when there isn't anything "regular"? Why immediately present a unicorn when you haven't even shown a horse?

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Also, I doubt there are multitrack recordings of aftershows from that era.

I like the analogy.

WhisperingDandelions said:

EnDoRpHn said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

Homophobic epithets in 2020, this is where you are mentally? Suddenly it all becomes crystal clear.

You concurred with Wolfie87 post, did you miss that part? With added emphasis, I might add. And you only listed three "great" songs specifically by name, all of which were on SOTT which is the topic at hand here. Parade, Purple Rain and 1999 are albums, you specified zero "great" songs from them.

I literally pasted your entire asinine post where you agreed with the post you quoted and you couldn't even interpret one iota correctly after two tries... and somehow you wrote the damn thing.

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What is it about "It" that makes it so egregiously inferior to you? I know it.. It's a lyric thing with "It" isn't it? Because "It" isn't all "Sunday Song" or grandstandingly utopic with its lyrical premise, because it's about as basic a lyrical concept as Prince gets with no added nuance or subtly, "It" can't be musically superior? Please.

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Can you two please stop bickering over matters of taste? Or use PM's if you like to continue? Thanks!

udo said:

TheEnglishGent said:

udo said:

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If the rumours are true, and no SOTT (full original tracklist, remastered) is on this set, then it cannot be named Sign O The Times Super Deluxe.

Perhaps Sign O The Times Era Super Deluxe might be more appropriate.

Where are these rumours coming from? You’re the only person I’ve seen mention this.

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I received some phone screenshots showing a track listing.

I dunno the source so I cannout vouch for correctness nor truthfullness.

RODSERLING said:

And what is TBA ?

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In this area: The Black Album.

At concert halls and such: To Be Announced.

udo said:

TheEnglishGent said:

udo said: Where are these rumours coming from? You’re the only person I’ve seen mention this.

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I received some phone screenshots showing a track listing.

I dunno the source so I cannout vouch for correctness nor truthfullness.

So it's not going to be remastered the original album?

This is my favorite album and very excited by these news.

I've been salivating this morning just thinking about owning the SOTT Super Deluxe versoin. Gives me something to look forward to for September.

The tracklist floating around on Twitter is a fake but somebody more connected did say that the real tracklist is floating around and the Estate will officially announce it June 7th.

Strive said:

The tracklist floating around on Twitter is a fake but somebody more connected did say that the real tracklist is floating around and the Estate will officially announce it June 7th.

the one on twitter is the one that includes The Black Album? and thus is the fake one?

Romeoblu said:

The inclusion of the black album seems odd, in a way it's more connected to Lovesexy. Lovesexy would also require more padding for a box set as there aren't many outtakes at all for it.

Agreed. TBA is an unneeded epilogue to SOTT, but a much-needed prologue to Lovesexy.

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my dream SOTT deluxe set would be both SOTT and TBA somehow being able to be fit onto one cd.

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just take out "starfish and coffee", "2 r in love" and "dead on it".

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it would be the perfect album for me.

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