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Reply #870 posted 06/26/19 4:19pm

jjam

RODSERLING said:

Am I dreaming, or Originals is not even on the official UK top 100 albums? https://www.officialchart...ums-chart/

That's based on June 14 releases.

The new UK album charts come out on Friday.

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Reply #871 posted 06/26/19 4:45pm

PeteSilas

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PeteSilas said:

fireworks? you say fireworks? on the org? ya don't say.

They’re actually friends

ya, they sound like they are trying to create friction for some sort of sexual release.

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Reply #872 posted 06/26/19 6:54pm

GaryMF

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feeluupp said:

jfenster said:

so the only way to get the 20 page boklet is with the CD/vinyl deluxe purchase?? theifs..

Yup..

THis is BS. I want the booklet but not vinyl. I bought the Target exclusive hoping for liner notes.

rainbow
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Reply #873 posted 06/26/19 8:32pm

sro100

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Okay,

Can we talk about NC2U (Cinematic Mix)?

Awesome!!

Put this is some tearjerker movie and you've got a hit!!

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Reply #874 posted 06/26/19 11:22pm

paisleypark4

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sro100 said:

Okay,



Can we talk about NC2U (Cinematic Mix)?



Awesome!!



Put this is some tearjerker movie and you've got a hit!!




Very nice version. Chills!!
Straight Jacket Funk Affair
Album plays and love for vinyl records.
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Reply #875 posted 06/26/19 11:38pm

JorisE73

feeluupp said:

jfenster said:

so the only way to get the 20 page boklet is with the CD/vinyl deluxe purchase?? theifs..

Yup..


I only ordered teh Limited Edition White vinyl version, I hope the booklet will be included in that one to.

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Reply #876 posted 06/26/19 11:45pm

JorisE73

fabriziovenerandi said:

mantaray31 said:

Niko Bolas (mix engineer) interview:

https://www.prosoundnetwo...xsZIbXhdAc

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A quote:

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Some of the tapes were finished releases, Bolas reports. "We re-mixed them with Prince's vocals, the guide vocals. We soon learned that whoever the artist was that had the original single tried to use his phrasing exactly."


And there you have it, a posthumous remix that has nothing to do with Prince's finished or mixdown versions before he gave the songs away.
So I guess that list Neversin posted here with all teh differences between the tracks on Originals and the mixdown versions is more valid and accurate.
I wish and would rather hear those tracks instead of the remixes on Originals.

sad

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Reply #877 posted 06/27/19 2:13am

BartVanHemelen

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JorisE73 said:

feeluupp said:

Yup..


I only ordered teh Limited Edition White vinyl version, I hope the booklet will be included in that one to.

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Why do you hope for something that you already know not to be true?

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Reply #878 posted 06/27/19 6:09am

BartVanHemelen

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New interview with Michael Howe (actually done some weeks ago at the Originals listening party in london) @ SuperDeluxeEdition: http://www.superdeluxeedi...ks-to-sde/ .

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Reply #879 posted 06/27/19 6:39am

TrevorAyer

BartVanHemelen said:

New interview with Michael Howe (actually done some weeks ago at the Originals listening party in london) @ SuperDeluxeEdition: http://www.superdeluxeedi...ks-to-sde/ .


This guy seems dim. They promote prince like cardi b .. he is a legacy artist .. originals should have been a 4 disk box with great liner notes .. they are obsessed with putting everything on vinyl (which is stupid) .. and with limiting the out put for quality sake ... even tho they include music that ‘sounds’ like shit (wouldn’t u love to love me, our destiny) ... claim no one wants a box but we get a fucking rave box?!?!?!? ... then cheap packaging .. cmom 4 4 disk box sets with great packaging 100 bucks each with tons of outtakes and live shows would have sold great and made money .. the current plan is destined for bankruptcy before they even get to the good stuff
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Reply #880 posted 06/27/19 7:05am

olb99

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BartVanHemelen said:

New interview with Michael Howe (actually done some weeks ago at the Originals listening party in london) @ SuperDeluxeEdition: http://www.superdeluxeedi...ks-to-sde/ .

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Michael Howe is "listening":

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I know there’s a lot of fan chatter about, you know, “why don’t you release this?” and, “what about Dream Factory?” and it’s like, ‘yes’, is the answer to all of those things. We’ve thought about it, we’ve discussed it, [and] maybe it will happen at some point, but it’s not as easy as me going in and plucking out a half inch reel and sending it to [mastering engineer] Bernie [Grundman], and then just putting it into the marketplace.

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Reply #881 posted 06/27/19 7:20am

feeluupp

SDE: You know this already, but there’s a massive appetite for what you might call the classic Prince era of the 80s. All those albums like Sign ‘O’ The Times, Parade, Around The World In A Day etc. You know, big, expanded box set editions of those albums to come out, similar to the way Purple Rain did with live stuff, 12-inch mixes, outtakes, whatever… Is that kind of thing miles away or is it…

MH: No, it’s not miles away. I mean I can’t … this is a very dicey area for me but it’s not miles away. I think there will be, you know, a couple of them will probably emerge over the next year or two, is my guess. And one of them is pretty much done.

... 1999 deluxe I bet. lol

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Reply #882 posted 06/27/19 7:31am

2freaky4church
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I cannot stop listening. So addicting. You're My Love may be the best song. Imagine country like DeBarge.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #883 posted 06/27/19 8:32am

Vannormal

Kares said:

Vannormal said:

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You know...

bisdes all...

more than 260 million galaxies out there.

And just imagine,

we got the one with Prince.

smile

Yea-ass !

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I beg your pardon, but it's actually at least one hundred billion galaxies just in the observable part of the Universe, and approx. 20 sextillion (20,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) planets. Even if only a tiny fraction of those have life, we got the one with Prince. smile


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biggrin

Impossible to grasp that...

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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #884 posted 06/27/19 9:11am

udo

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Vannormal said:


biggrin

Impossible to grasp that...

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Could be.

But then grasp the way the posthumous releases are handled.

The many issues with P&M '83 and Originals say enough.

Also PR remastered had a few.

In what galaxy need we be to have proper handling of a megastar's legacy?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #885 posted 06/27/19 10:08am

CynicKill

udo said:

Vannormal said:


biggrin

Impossible to grasp that...

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Could be.

But then grasp the way the posthumous releases are handled.

The many issues with P&M '83 and Originals say enough.

Also PR remastered had a few.

In what galaxy need we be to have proper handling of a megastar's legacy?

I think I have a very scientific, logical answer to that question:

Come to Prince.org.

Close their eyes.

Scroll down.

Plop their finger on the screen.

Name it drops on is the new executor of the vault.

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Reply #886 posted 06/27/19 11:11am

SupaFunkyOrgan
grinderSexy

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I have had tears in my eyes listening to these originals. Amazing that these demos DESTROY. clapping

2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
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Reply #887 posted 06/27/19 12:39pm

tmcjb

CynicKill said:



udo said:




Vannormal said:



biggrin


Impossible to grasp that...


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Could be.


But then grasp the way the posthumous releases are handled.


The many issues with P&M '83 and Originals say enough.


Also PR remastered had a few.


In what galaxy need we be to have proper handling of a megastar's legacy?



I think I have a very scientific, logical answer to that question:


Come to Prince.org.


Close their eyes.


Scroll down.


Plop their finger on the screen.


Name it drops on is the new executor of the vault.




Christ no, that could be bad. If it landed on Neversin we would only get details about what's in the vault but never any actual material.
"Like the drummer said, you got to die."
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Reply #888 posted 06/27/19 1:48pm

BartVanHemelen

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In case this wasn't yet posted in this thread, a new article from Billboard: https://www.billboard.com...-originals

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Reply #889 posted 06/27/19 4:14pm

Wolfie87

BartVanHemelen said:

In case this wasn't yet posted in this thread, a new article from Billboard: https://www.billboard.com...-originals



A Prince jam on "Walk Like an Egyptian" faint
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Reply #890 posted 06/27/19 4:39pm

GaryMF

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Wolfie87 said:

BartVanHemelen said:

In case this wasn't yet posted in this thread, a new article from Billboard: https://www.billboard.com...-originals

A Prince jam on "Walk Like an Egyptian" faint

"Jones linked up with him in 1982 when he opened up for Teena Marie (whose manager was Jones' mom) and appeared on every album he made through Graffiti Bridge"

..

Wasn't Prince opening for Rick James???..

rainbow
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Reply #891 posted 06/27/19 8:23pm

udo

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I have had tears in my eyes listening to these originals. Amazing that these demos DESTROY. clapping

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demo?

ifi tis the same tape, sme mix, with just a different vocal from the released version....

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #892 posted 06/27/19 11:28pm

JorisE73

tmcjb said:

CynicKill said:

I think I have a very scientific, logical answer to that question:

Come to Prince.org.

Close their eyes.

Scroll down.

Plop their finger on the screen.

Name it drops on is the new executor of the vault.

Christ no, that could be bad. If it landed on Neversin we would only get details about what's in the vault but never any actual material.


lol

I actualy think if he was in charge we would get a flood of 30+ disc sets ultra deluxe editions of all his albums.

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Reply #893 posted 06/28/19 1:11am

getxxxx

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Fun Fact... Dear Michaelangelo was tracked during the Purple Rain tour dates in Atlanta, GA Jan 85. Clearly Romance 1600 was being worked on at the same time as ATWIAD.
Nick Ashford was someone I greatly admired, had the honor of knowing, and was the real-life inspiration for Cowboy Curtis' hair. RIP Nick. - Pee Wee Herman
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Reply #894 posted 06/28/19 4:03am

fabriziovenera
ndi

udo said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I have had tears in my eyes listening to these originals. Amazing that these demos DESTROY. clapping

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demo?

ifi tis the same tape, sme mix, with just a different vocal from the released version....

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I do not think all the songs use this kind of mix.

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Reply #895 posted 06/28/19 4:40am

Se7en

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Sorry again if this has been posted earlier in the thread. I just read it last night.

Interesting blurb about how they acheived the final product, using cassette tapes only as a guide.

http://www.superdeluxeedi...MEN7REfhHE


A lot of these songs, for example, existed as rough mixes and we would, very happily, use a rough mix as a master. I mean we take as few creative liberties as we can, you know, we try to respect the original vision. But the vast majority, especially the early stuff, exists as rough mixes only on cassette, you know, some kind of substandard cassettes that really aren’t worthy of release, you know, from a sonic standpoint. So what we do is go back to the two inch master and we mix to the granular level exactly what the rough mix would sound like if we were able to clean up the cassette to the point that it would be releasable. So anything that exists on a format with some integrity, like a half inch reel or, you know, a DAT or anything else, we will release as a master as Prince, theoretically, would have contemplated doing.

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Reply #896 posted 06/28/19 4:41am

BartVanHemelen

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getxxxx said:

Fun Fact... Dear Michaelangelo was tracked during the Purple Rain tour dates in Atlanta, GA Jan 85. Clearly Romance 1600 was being worked on at the same time as ATWIAD.

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http://www.princevault.co...mance_1600

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http://www.princevault.co...d_In_A_Day

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I mean, how can you be a Prince fan and not know that ATWIAD (the album) was basically finished on Christmas morning 1984?

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https://www.thecurrent.or...-christmas

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Instead of celebrating his new success, he had been spending his time creating the follow-up to Purple Rain, an album called Around the World in a Day. After a Christmas Eve matinee show in his hometown of Minneapolis, Prince spent the rest of the night and part of Christmas morning putting the final touches on the record, a collection of music that expressed this spiritual journey. Like the album itself, Prince's world seemed filled with joy, regret, fresh love and conflicts — both internal and external — and the album's lyrics projected hints of his isolation, with five of the nine tracks containing words like "loneliness," "alone," and "lonely."

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From Alan Light's book:

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"Around the World in a Day was really fast," says Susan Rogers. "We mixed a lot of it over Christmas in Minneapolis. We were on tour in a mobile truck, and on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day I was in that truck, parked in the driveway of his house, working on `Tamborine' and 'The Ladder' for that record." At 4 A.M. on Christmas morning 1984, the follow-up to Purple Rain was completed.

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Reply #897 posted 06/28/19 6:19am

getxxxx

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BartVanHemelen said:

getxxxx said:

Fun Fact... Dear Michaelangelo was tracked during the Purple Rain tour dates in Atlanta, GA Jan 85. Clearly Romance 1600 was being worked on at the same time as ATWIAD.

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http://www.princevault.co...mance_1600

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http://www.princevault.co...d_In_A_Day

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I mean, how can you be a Prince fan and not know that ATWIAD (the album) was basically finished on Christmas morning 1984?

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https://www.thecurrent.or...-christmas

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From Alan Light's book:

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"Around the World in a Day was really fast," says Susan Rogers. "We mixed a lot of it over Christmas in Minneapolis. We were on tour in a mobile truck, and on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day I was in that truck, parked in the driveway of his house, working on `Tamborine' and 'The Ladder' for that record." At 4 A.M. on Christmas morning 1984, the follow-up to Purple Rain was completed.

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can you not read.... I said what I said... AT THE SAME TIME!!!!

[Edited 6/28/19 6:20am]

Nick Ashford was someone I greatly admired, had the honor of knowing, and was the real-life inspiration for Cowboy Curtis' hair. RIP Nick. - Pee Wee Herman
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Reply #898 posted 06/28/19 11:14am

AvocadosMax

Ok that was good. So what’s the next release??
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Reply #899 posted 06/28/19 11:24am

AvocadosMax

Lol they should bring back ‘Purple Pick of The Week’ or at least once every month or so. Whether it’s an unheard of song or unreleased live recording or rehearsal, put out one track at least once a month
Just to help the hardcore fans hold weakness until the next release
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